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 IAMREAL4U

Joined: 12/10/2006
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Conversation is a lost art form
Posted: 9/21/2007 7:18:05 PM
Does anyone really know how to talk anymore? Seems like most women advertise good conversation, yet when trying to initiate conversation it seems like there are expectations or hidden agendas lol... I love to talk about anything and everything, which gives the opportunity to later discuss more personal or serious issues without anyone clamming up... you cannot learn how the other person thinks without 2-way chat, and listening goes with this as well. Thoughts anyone? Better yet, start a conversation with me, it doesn't mean I am trying to bed you, just learn about you lol.
 mojomoma

Joined: 8/12/2007
Msg: 2
Conversation is a lost art form
Posted: 9/21/2007 7:22:02 PM
ive found men to be the same way. i don't get it, everything ends up about sex i don't mind talking about it, but i dont want to base a whole evening on that topic. now, give me a beer and start talking about philosophy or politics
 mamatigress

Joined: 8/5/2007
Msg: 3
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Posted: 9/21/2007 7:24:51 PM
It has been my experience that alot of people want to talk but no one wants to listen. It is hard to have a conversation if only one person has the opportunity to speak. The world is full of self-centered people that only want others to listen and empathize with them over their horrible lives.

I am training to listen and to hear what others are saying. I am always up for a good two-sided conversation.
 princessofpower

Joined: 9/14/2007
Msg: 4
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Posted: 9/21/2007 7:28:52 PM
Good question, and I'm going to have to say the answer is no! It seems the art of conversation is indeed on its way out. I've noticed a strange trend, myself. I'll get a message from a guy. Exchange hellos, and what not. And then he asks, "So what do you want to talk about?"

That pretty much kills it for me. I prefer for conversation to develop more organically, myself, and besides...if you're the one that messaged me, shouldn't you be the one that had some idea of what to talk about? I'm always baffled when someone asks me that question. It's as if they think I was just sitting there, waiting for them to message me.
 Howie_63

Joined: 11/12/2006
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Conversation is a lost art form
Posted: 9/21/2007 7:30:58 PM
I have to add my 2 cents....I am finding more and more profiles are lacking personal quality over complaining about what not to do or not say when attempting to contact them, yet when you do get a reply, its no more then a thank you...

come on ladies, have you forgotten how to stimulate a conversation, especially when you do take the time to reply, please, if you don't want to have a dialog , don't thank me, ignore me, thats thanks enough
 metrocross

Joined: 8/12/2007
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Posted: 9/21/2007 7:31:34 PM
I think we should all just give up and talking and just start the loving... wow this LSD is great.
 SangriaOnIce

Joined: 7/25/2007
Msg: 7
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Posted: 9/21/2007 7:35:41 PM
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I believe conversation is not a lost art other than a dialogue with every second word being the 'f' word. That type of conversation is so unimaginative and hard to engage in. I find it offensive.

It is the 'written' word that is extremely lacking. Get a person on the phone and see if they are more proficient verbally. Trust me, they are. Another issue can be ones skills on the keyboard; they can't type well.

It isn't conversation deemed as the OP states, a lost art...it is the ability to express oneself with the written word that is suffering more.

Peace
 iago_lives

Joined: 4/19/2007
Msg: 8
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Posted: 9/21/2007 7:38:41 PM
Dude...

You have to realize that when women say they want a man who is capable of conversation, what they are REALLY saying is that they want a man who will shut up and listen to what THEY are saying. And, even more than that, the more important bit is that they want their man to DO WHAT THEY SAY.

The whole conversation thing is great, but have you actually listened to women when they are conversating? Especially when there is a herd of them yapping? Not a one of them hears a word of what the other is saying. If there are 6 of them around the table, there are 8 completely different conversations going on.

Don't try to figure it out. Just nod and grunt. It's worked for thousands of years. Stay the course.
 ItsMargo

Joined: 4/24/2007
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Posted: 9/21/2007 7:55:54 PM
Listening is a bit of a lost art form. Some people think conversation involves two steps:
1. speak... 2. wait to speak

oh iago, I promise to drop breadcrumbs so you can follow along when I digress on my digressions...lol
 Wemble_on_KrimiaRiver

Joined: 9/18/2007
Msg: 10
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Posted: 9/21/2007 8:06:02 PM
Conversation is not a lost art form, but listening sure seems to be. You have 2 ears and 1 mouth and they should be used proportionately. A note to men: she wants you to listen, actually listen to her and she does not need you to respond with your solution and fix for all of her problems. Listen.
 SangriaOnIce

Joined: 7/25/2007
Msg: 11
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Posted: 9/21/2007 8:07:01 PM
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Oh my iago, that was ever so kind. What an endearing rendition of how women communicate. You should be in awe that women can carry on a conversation with 2 to 5 people. It is an art unappreciated.

There have been study groups, structured university courses in the complexities of women's conversations and how we are so brilliant in our abilities to carry on multi conversations, cook supper, vacuum, chew gum, and watch tv all with a baby on our hip. We are a stunning species so overlooked and unappreciated for our multi tasking abilities. You just can't bottle that stuff.

Peace
 iago_lives

Joined: 4/19/2007
Msg: 12
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Posted: 9/21/2007 8:18:28 PM
There have been study groups, structured university courses in the complexities of women's conversations and how we are so brilliant in our abilities to carry on multi conversations, cook supper, vacuum, chew gum, and watch tv all with a baby on our hip. We are a stunning species so overlooked and unappreciated for our multi tasking abilities.


I always get a kick out of the argument that women are such marvelous multi-taskers.

It's true to a point, but the part that gets missed while you are busy patting each other on the back about this supposedly fantastic trait that you wonderful female types possess, is that you may be able to have many things going, but few of them ever get completed.

Completion of a task undertaken is just as important as starting one.

Pax vobiscum
 lakeside81

Joined: 6/2/2007
Msg: 13
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Posted: 9/21/2007 8:40:20 PM
I miss talking to someone special. I talk to family regularly, of course. But it's nice to have that special someone that you talk to about everything, the good and the bad. People run from that kind of relationship. The conversations now days seems very plastic to me.
 But_Wait

Joined: 2/18/2007
Msg: 14
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Posted: 9/21/2007 8:56:50 PM
OP are you making reference to online conversations such as pof /msn/txt msgs :(
that in my opinion is the demise of conversation.
just last week i had my tag line on MSN saying the lost art of conversation ...msn..:S call me lets do that phone thing!!!!

Just tonight i was chating on MSN and something was totally mis-understood, why ?! because there was no tone or inflection and no real sense of what was meant :( this saddens me greatly especially since when i am speaking to you i can say more than i can type in ten mins
and have you ever experienced chatting with someone on here for what seems like forever only to realize that thier voice grinds on you like a cheese grater ?!

lets revive the whole phone thing ppl and i dont mean txt msgs either
Call me ;)

 vitamin_j

Joined: 2/28/2006
Msg: 15
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Posted: 9/21/2007 9:14:14 PM

I have to add my 2 cents....I am finding more and more profiles are lacking personal quality over complaining about what not to do or not say when attempting to contact them,



LOL! So true. Of course, there is no greater signal to avoid such a person, so be thankful for that at least. Sometimes, people to avoid can be really subtle and you might not catch on that they're someone to stay away from. But someone who complains and biches and demands you to be something, even if there is validity to their complaints, you know to stay away from that person right off the bat because they will bich you in to oblivion if given the chance.
 SangriaOnIce

Joined: 7/25/2007
Msg: 16
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Posted: 9/21/2007 9:22:50 PM
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It's true to a point, but the part that gets missed while you are busy patting each other on the back about this supposedly fantastic trait that you wonderful female types possess, is that you may be able to have many things going, but few of them ever get completed.

Completion of a task undertaken is just as important as starting one.


It gauls me that generalities about women can be stated so ignorently. Your statement is unfounded and unrealistic. You took my post seriously and it was in fun ; an attempt to lessen your posts derogatory impressions of womens conversations. It was uncalled for.

Lets not make this thread into bashing women...K? It serves no purpose other than you finding some satisfaction in 'stirring the pot'.

Quissamus mi butticus
 sookest1

Joined: 4/13/2007
Msg: 17
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Posted: 9/21/2007 9:54:50 PM

It isn't conversation deemed as the OP states, a lost art ... it is the ability to express oneself with the written word that is suffering more.


That is "it" exactly! One can hear so much in a person's voice or facial expressions, typing to the "screen " smoothly takes lots of practice.
 Banterista

Joined: 4/18/2006
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Conversation is a lost art form
Posted: 9/21/2007 10:12:45 PM
I took a peek at your profile, and I can say (to me) it does not really invite conversation.

On topic, I have to say I hate these sweeping generalizations. If a person states "love conversation", really it means he/she enjoy conversations that appeal to him/her.

There are a gazillion different people in this world, and I'm sure most of them enjoy conversations. Because most people prefer talking to... like, not talking.

Just 'cause they don't match your conversation style, doesn't mean that "conversation is a lost art form".

Perhaps you haven't quite perfected the art?
 wizwoman

Joined: 9/14/2007
Msg: 19
Conversation is a lost art form
Posted: 9/21/2007 10:30:51 PM
"You have to realize that when women say they want a man who is capable of conversation, what they are REALLY saying is that they want a man who will shut up and listen to what THEY are saying. And, even more than that, the more important bit is that they want their man to DO WHAT THEY SAY.

The whole conversation thing is great, but have you actually listened to women when they are conversating? Especially when there is a herd of them yapping? Not a one of them hears a word of what the other is saying. If there are 6 of them around the table, there are 8 completely different conversations going on."
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iago lives ---- a herd of them yapping...How many dates have you gone on lately?

I read your 2 sentence profile.....very deep and articulate.

***ever thought of changing your name to Iago lives under a rock?
 *MK67*

Joined: 8/20/2005
Msg: 20
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Posted: 9/21/2007 10:33:30 PM
You have to realize that when women say they want a man who is capable of conversation, what they are REALLY saying is that they want a man who will shut up and listen to what THEY are saying.


This one killed me.

Personally, I love a chatty man...not one who will just sit there quietly.

With conversation, it all comes down to flow....when it flows so smoothly you can't believe 2 hours have gone by when it felt like 10 minutes. Now that's a conversation.
 FredHH

Joined: 1/24/2007
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Posted: 9/21/2007 10:39:06 PM
would you care to discuss the pros and cons of designing a nuclear reactor to have a negative temperature coefficient of reactivity?

How about why "Bernoulli" doesn't explain even half of the lift a wing generates?

Pros and cons of trying to make abortion illegal?

The proper way to make a double decker pizza? (if its under 6 lbs its not right)

How to make Baked Alaska over a campfire?

Name the topic... I'll try it.
 eye4light

Joined: 7/12/2006
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Posted: 9/21/2007 10:43:16 PM

Does anyone really know how to talk anymore?

Well I...uh....um....of course, there uh....er...I mean, uh......

...just kidding.

 vosche

Joined: 1/6/2007
Msg: 23
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Posted: 9/21/2007 10:43:32 PM
maybe she doesnt have a hidden agenda..maybe you just paranoid..food for thought
 vosche

Joined: 1/6/2007
Msg: 24
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Posted: 9/21/2007 10:45:39 PM
i mean seriously...people think i'm up to something even when i'm not..but be cause i'm so short and impish ~grin~
 regalrose

Joined: 8/28/2007
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Posted: 9/21/2007 10:48:40 PM
lol, hell boy, I can talk the paint off the walls, but my buds say I'm a very good listener too. Maybe part of the problem is that the gals think YOU have a hidden agenda and really want more than just chatting....just a thought.
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