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 Zensual

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Posted: 5/14/2005 5:56:47 AM
They are simple ideas, but not common. Since most people don't plan to be attacked, these ideas don't occur to them until they are remembering the event and thinking, "If only I had ... " I wish all martial arts experts and fans give some contribution.... i'm waiting for your tips.. :)

TIP #1 - USE YOUR HEAD
First, stay calm and think. As soon as the adrenaline kicks in, everything will seem to happen in slow motion. You mind processes thoughts so rapidly that it will seem like you have hours to make a decision about how to react.

Second, the human skull is an awesomely powerful weapon. Bashing your forehead into the goon's nose is tremendously more effective than bashing your fist into it.

Similarly, ladies, if you are grabbed, bear-hug style from behind, don't waste your time trying to step on his toes, or elbow his ribs, or kick your heel up into his groin. Those moves will do little besides anger your attacker.

Instead, start trying to bash his face with the back of your head. All you have to do is connect once or twice with your attacker's face or collarbone.

TIP #2 - ALWAYS HAVE A TOOL HANDY
Always, always, always have something easily and quickly accessible tool to use as a weapon. Note that I did not say, "have a weapon accessible" which is not always practical or advisable. I mean, if someone surprises you, there should be something instantly accessible to aid in your defense. It can be a pen, keys, a can of vegetables, a pen knife -- anything.

If you remember this one absurdly simple rule about weapons fighting, you will see the potential weapon in virtually everything around you AND be able to effectively use it: anything hard and fast goes to bone, and anything pointed goes to soft tissue.

For example, a stick or can of vegetables would target bone: the face, skull, hip, shin, elbow, kneecap. It would be less effective to use these against, say, an attacker's abdomen.

Conversely, a knife or pen is much more effective targeting the throat, eyes, crotch, armpit, or belly than they are targeting the kneecap.

Hard goes to bone, point goes to soft tissue -- remember that rule, and you will never be without a weapon again.

TIP #3 - MOVE ALONG A TRIANGLE (a bit of theory)
There is one tip about self-defense that is so important that entire martial arts systems are based upon it. The tip: don't get hit. I mention that, because moving along a triangle goes a long way toward the goal of not getting hit.

One of the most dangerous mistakes the average person makes during a fight is to move in straight lines, either forward and backward, or side to side. This is also the mistake that will cause the Tai Mai Shu black belt to get his or her butt whooped in very short order on the street.

Imagine a vertical dividing line along your body, dividing your body into left and right halves. The aggressor is probably going to attack some point along or around that line: your face, your throat, your heart, your groin.

Your goal is to move that line out of the path of the attack AND change the distance of the target from attacker.

The attacker has mentally committed to striking to a particular target. His brain has sent the signal to his fist that the intended target is located at a particular distance in a particular direction. When you change the target's coordinates, it spoils the effectiveness of the attack.

The attacker may be able to recover from a change in target location or change in target distance alone, but changing both factors is your best bet. Then, even if it does connect, the strength of the attack will be greatly diminished.

Moving in a straight line backward and forward changes the distance, but does not move your center line out of the attack path. Moving laterally changes the location of the center line, but not the distance. Moving along an imaginary triangle changes both.

Imagine standing with both feet on the point of a triangle and facing the bad guy. The other two points of the triangle can either be in front of you or behind you -- I have a preference, but that's tip #4. Each of the other triangle points are about one medium-large step away.

Step one foot onto either of the two available triangle points. Note what has happened to the distance to and the location of the attacker's original target? Bingo! Bring your other foot up, and you are now at the starting point of another triangle.

TIP #4 - ALWAYS ADVANCE WHEN YOU SHOULD RETREAT
During a fight, as during a game of chess, the experienced player is already planning the second or third move before the first one is ever completed. In fact, many of the experienced fighter's moves are used solely to get the opponent to react in a predetermined manner.

Fight you own instinct and do not back up. Your instinct is wrong.

For example, imagine you are throwing a flurry of jabs at me. In your mind, you "know" exactly what I am going to do: backpedal to escape your jabs.

In fact, you are counting upon me back pedaling into that corner behind me, then you'll pound me into a liquid, right? How surprised are you going to be when I step forward, along my trusty triangle, and not backward? You'd be very surprised because I'm not "supposed" to step into an attack, rather away from it.

Since, in this scenario, I've stepped forward along the triangle, while you are busy trying to figure out how to handle this unexpected happening, I am now inside your defenses, and face your unprotected ribs, armpit, neck, head, abdomen, flank, and knee -- a virtual smorgasbord of targets. Then it's back to tip #2: hard goes to bone, point goes to soft.

All of these tips are simple common sense. But, most people never think about them until someone points them out. Additionally, most people will never use this advice because they do not put themselves in situations which may become violent.

As I see it, the goal of self-defense training is not to have the ability to utterly destroy another person, but foresight to never have to demonstrate it.
 jennifer j

Joined: 10/15/2004
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Posted: 5/14/2005 9:03:39 AM
thank you so much for those fantastic tips hope i never have to use them
 cachorrosemvergonha

Joined: 5/4/2005
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Posted: 5/14/2005 1:41:17 PM
Good tips...

Mine are

1. (If I was speaking directly to a female)--Have a man with you who is capable of doing what a man should do---protect. If you want to take the extra step and train yourself, you had better practice sparring(meaning you will sweat, likely break a nail, and definitely ruin your mascara), and spar as hard as you can----AND SPAR WITH MEN. If the hard realities of combat scare you, then you'd better hope your man handles it.

Why? Because most men are stronger than most women. "Whoever said size means nothing in a fight was obviously not a fighter." The above weapons advice was sufficient.

2. Men---See #2, and multiply the effort and intesity.
 Zensual

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Posted: 5/14/2005 8:07:45 PM
cachorrosemvergonha.. concordo com vc.. in english... i agree with your tips... :)
 robertpaulson

Joined: 5/12/2005
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Posted: 5/14/2005 10:06:34 PM
Self defence, a huge topic that I could write a huge post on, but in the intrest of brevity I will give you all my one best piece of advice.

As an adult, there is no such thing for a criminal/robber/rapist as a first time offender. The person attacking you has practiced this before, and for him it is a psychologically and physically common event. He probably learned from his family and neighbourhood, started in school, apprenticed in youth gangsand reformatories and may have graduated from adult correctional facilities with a full fledged PHD from Criminal U. This man has fought cops, rival gang members, bouncers, and prison guards as well as his previous victims.

If you want to survive, you must be as ruthless as he is, if not more. In his world mercy is weakness, and like it or not you are now living in his world. Show no mercy.
 cachorrosemvergonha

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Posted: 5/14/2005 11:25:03 PM

cachorrosemvergonha.. concordo com vc.. in english... i agree with your tips... :)


Valeu cara!
 ninja master

Joined: 5/20/2005
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Posted: 5/21/2005 4:20:20 PM
the best tip is to train hard, when i wake up i run 24 miles every morning and do 2000 situps and 1000 pushups then i go into the forest by running water and meditated then i bash and smash a tree intil it break i am a ninja master
 vancouverite

Joined: 12/25/2004
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Posted: 5/22/2005 1:17:15 AM
that is fuggin hilarious....LMAO^^^^
 IanJ

Joined: 4/12/2004
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Posted: 5/22/2005 10:24:27 AM
I dont like your post so much, but instead of slamming it i just decided to write my own:

The most important thing to remember in a street confrontation is that sportsmanship (which has, of course, always been integral to white people) has no bearing in a street confrontation (I used to be fond of saying “one must never let victory be slain at the hands of honor”). European culture has traditionally favored sportsmanship, which is why American and American adopted fighting styles, such as “Wilson’s Martial Arts Academy” down the street from your house, are generally corrupted by this. Bear this in mind as you train.


When outnumbered, my personal theory has always been to attack the largest or most threatening person first with no hesitation. This serves a double purpose. Firstly, you will potentially undermine the confidence of the other attacker, as well as eliminating what you perceive to be the greatest threat.

On weapons: Anything can be utilized as a weapon, to one degree or another. Let us divide these into three categories. Incision and piercing, bludgeoning, and distraction.

Incision and piercing weapons are improvised blades (to a degree). If one knows how, one can break a pool stick to create a field expedient spear, for example.

Bludgeoning weapons are improvised clubs. A sturdy shovel handle can be used to reduce the integrity of even the hardest skull.

Distraction weapons require an explanation that is a bit more in-depth. Anything that can be thrown at the attacker can distract them. A lit cigar flipped toward the eyes can leave a good opening to formally introduce your knee to your enemy’s moneymaker. A handful of change, a lighter or even spitting in the opponent’s face can get you out of a tight spot.
In my experience, I have always been amazed at how frequently an opponent will turn around to look at any object thrown behind them, even in the case of supposedly highly capable street fighters with a notorious reputation.

I generally avoid using bottles except as projectiles; one of my associates had a tendon severed in his hand when he broke a bottle to be used as a cutting implement. MURPHY’S LAW: Bottles NEVER break in a convenient manner.

Vital body points: I will only outline five of the most vulnerable points of the body.

Eyes. Removal of the eyes, such as via a gouge can greatly impact the opponent’s ability to continue assault.

Nose. The old “palm to the nose” or a solid punch to the nose will do considerable damage to the enemy.

Throat. A chop to the throat can crush the larynx, killing the opponent. or just squezze and dont release.

Groin. Everyone’s favorite place to get hit. A knee, or a grab, pull, and twist, or repeatedly striking it with a lead pipe, will quickly make your enemy a little more likely to see things your way. It is easier to miss the testicles than one might think. I highly recommend that you strike repeatedly, after all the worst that can happen is that he might be eligible for the Vienna Boys Choir.

Knees. A strike to the front of a locked knee or a diagonally downward kick to the side of the knee can adversely affect their future career as a tap dancer.


Disarming someone with a firearm.
Many schools of thought on this. I’ve trained with dummy pistols, never had to disarm for real. Just thought I’d let you know.

General: Placing the web of skin between your index and thumb between the firing pin and the hammer will prevent the bullet from firing. Prepare to bleed a little, because the hammer will break skin, and it will hurt. This is irrelevant to firearms with shrouded hammers such as the .38 bodyguard.
Revolvers: grabbing the cylinder of an uncocked double action revolver will prevent the weapon from discharging. For a double action revolver to****as the trigger is pulled, they cylinder must rotate before the hammer can come back.
Semi-autos: pressing hard against the slide of an automatic will prevent it from firing, I would not be very likely to try this myself. I have tested it on unloaded handguns and it works, but there’s just something about looking like Quentin Terintio on Dusk till Dawn that makes me want to shy away from this.

When attempting to take a firearm from someone you should first assume positive control of the barrel, direct it to the side and down, while simultaneously moving your body away from the business end of the firearm.

YOUR fighting style: If you are untrained, I highly recommend starting out with European style boxing mixed with Brazilian jiujutsu. I say this because boxing is a very good striking art to learn as a beginner, and Brazilian jiujutsu is an excellent grappling art. Sambo, Krav Maga, are some good reccomendations.

I am personally a righty but I typically fight southpaw because a significant number of opponents simply do not know how to handle them.

Be wary of “exotics” such as capoperia and ninjutsu, et cetera, I have learned a lot studying ninjutsu; however, I disagree with many things that it teaches.

A 5’8”, 190 lb man will not fight optimally the same way a 6’5” 190 lb man would. Experiment and study, seek your own style.

Martial arts I just plain don’t ****ing like: Tang So Do, Tae Kwon Do. I haven’t studied every possible style, but I am sure that if I studied others, I would certainly add to this list.

Physical training should be an integral part of your daily regimen. Be sure to include aerobic as well as anaerobic exercise. No aerobic exercise is better for you than running. Now that college is in this summer session, the gym has restricted hours, but I normally run 2-3 miles 3 times a week this is one of the reasons that I HIGHLY recommend boxing, they don’t teach you grappling or kicks, but that condition your body and make you focus on learning a few basic things at a time…fist striking, evasion/blocking. Personally, I do not kick often in a fight. When I do it is typically a knee or a stomp, but occasionally, I do kick for distraction purposes, followed by my primary attack.

Kicking above your own waist is an advanced maneuver {PERIOD. This is one of the reasons that I despise flashy martial arts with high kicks such as Tae Kwan Do. Kicking above your own waist disrupts you balance. I say this with and apology in advance if by some fluke I happen to be wrong. But do not concern yourself with kicks above your own waist. Instead, focus you efforts elsewhere, like punching, or grappling.

Grappling rules for dummies 1-1:

1. he who is on top does more damage
2. 2 the worst position to be in is on your belly with him on top of you (back mount bottom)
3. Often, its good to wrap your legs around something: ribcage (squeeze like hell and cut off air), both legs, neck, or a single limb if all else fails, there are times you do not want to do this, but this is grappling for dummies, 101. If you don’t know what you're doing, I suggest you do what I say.
4. When you are really in a pinch, bite. There is no risk of disease transfer from giving or receiving a bite according to the American Red Cross.
5. When you are in a pinch, spit in their face. This has saved my ass.
6. If you’re a small guy, and he has a significant weight advantage, spit, rip, bite, hack clash tear, grind, and claw your way back onto your feet. Size advantage is multiplied when on the ground.
7. Isn’t a bad idea to watch an older UFC video or two (newer ones have too many damned rules), or a few Pride videos and ANALYZE the fight. Don’t just watch it. Rewind it a few times, play it in slow mo, pause it. Just like when you were 13and found your dad’s porno video collection.
8. Royce Gracie is a fluke.
9. When in doubt, SJM. Small joint manipulations are great, grab a finger and crank the shit out of it. Bend it, but while you do, twist at the same time. Doing both makes it almost impossible to defend against.
10. One of the most important things to know. The closer a limb is to the center of the body, the more muscle groups that person can incorporate into a movement. So if you want positive control of a limb draw it away from their body. Conversely, if you need more leverage, draw your limb back towards your body.

NOTE: reading this alone isn’t going to do you a whole lot of good.

The author’s training maxim: “If it isn’t hurting, you're doing it wrong”

All battles are won and lost on the training grounds --Sun Tzu
 IanJ

Joined: 4/12/2004
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Posted: 5/22/2005 10:25:28 AM
ninja master...i would beat your ass.
 IanJ

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Posted: 5/22/2005 10:40:46 AM
I have to fix this:


Instead, start trying to bash his face with the back of your head. All you have to do is connect once or twice with your attacker's face or collarbone.


lets try an experiment where i grab you from behind and you head butt me with the back of your skull, i will probably turn my face so you hit me in my hard ass cheek bone, causing minimal discomfort then head butt you in the base of your skull the next time you throw your head back, probably knocking you out cold, a less likely outcome than knocking you out includes even dislocating your skull from the spine, and you my friend, are having a really bad day as soon as that happens.

In desperation this might be an effective tactic; however, id teach a move involving dropping straight to the ground (generally best thing to do when "bear hugged" unless you got a free hand in the right location to grab a nice handful of testicles), catching the ground with my hands and supporting my body with my arms, the placing one shin across the front of both of the enemies legs directly below the knees and my other leg across the crook of thier knees, rolling across the ground sideways will cause the gent to get quickly aquianted with the pavement, leaving you time to back mount him and punch, elbow him in the base of the skull until you attain an erection.

also i think the whole thing about staying calm because your adrenaline causes you to go in a matrix like state where a punch takes four score and seven years is b.s. when you acquire a hostile target, you attack with full force and without holding back, and you dont stop until the opponent is incapacitated. you always attack towards incapacitation, if this means death, so be it. do not attack towards making someone submit unless you are whooping the neighbor boy's ass for punching his mom in the jaw.
 pedrothemarine

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Posted: 5/22/2005 12:58:39 PM
I like my M-16A4... I can kill them from 500+ yards away... and if not--fellow Marines back me up on this one... I could always MCMAP theis ass ...............TAN BELTS UNITE!!!!!!!!
 IanJ

Joined: 4/12/2004
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Posted: 5/22/2005 1:46:15 PM
yep. but you dont always have a carbine on the street. maybe a pistol, but even then sometimes you get in a situation where its not always the best course of action to deploy that manner of weapon for a particular engagement :P
 MMAFan

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Posted: 5/22/2005 6:45:26 PM
My MMA skills have worked for me when shits hit the fan on several occasions.

I don't even consider weapons as a reasonable course of action unless my life is in danger and I'm planning on killing the person. Everytime I've seen a knife, maglite, mace or bat pulled out the person that took it out got the living shit beat out of them. Don't take out weapons unless you plan on using them. Luckily the only guns that I've had pointed at me were in the hands of cops so I had nother to worry about lol.

Best thing to do if you don't want to get into a situation is run.
 ninja master

Joined: 5/20/2005
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Posted: 5/22/2005 6:49:56 PM
i am a ninja master and i know that training is critical I even train my ninja skills while im at work to make suer my ninja skills are finely honed to where i can kill a man easiley to a ninja the most important thing is training so i make sure that when i am wroking i squeze time in to practice ninja skills
 IanJ

Joined: 4/12/2004
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Posted: 5/22/2005 6:51:34 PM
ill bet your coworkers love that
 IanJ

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Posted: 5/22/2005 6:56:13 PM
mma fan i think he geared this more towards females and ninja master than someone who has had actual training
 MMAFan

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Posted: 5/22/2005 8:42:51 PM
ahh, yes. I realize that. If we're including Ninja's we must not forget to use smoke bombs while we're teleporting or using our stealth skills.
 IanJ

Joined: 4/12/2004
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Posted: 5/22/2005 9:07:01 PM
well ill tell you one damn thing...if i had a face like that id be practicing ninjutsu too, or some damn thing that would let me cover my face.
 Skahtd

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Posted: 6/6/2005 3:40:32 AM
I can't believe the oddballs that come out of their parents basement to proclaim their delusional martial-arts titles and skills. Is ninja-master serious? I've been fortunate to train in modern forms of ninjutsu and it's nothing like the silly comic book crap being perpetrated by some clowns. Overall being a versatile fighter and physically fit helps tremendously, most mixed-martial-artists have those qualities.
 DragonofPG

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Posted: 6/7/2005 2:15:53 PM
Personally, I keep swords at home and in my vehicle. I've only had to use them in combat twice. Ya'd be serprised how many just turn and run. I keep a shortsword in my leather jacket for when I'm not near either.
I agree that a weapon should not be brought into the fight unless one fully intends to use it. And I suggest training so that you don't hurt yourself with whatever it is.
There is no honor in combat...That was brought in during the time of Knights and such...The idea in a fight is to win and win quickly, without damage to yourself.
There are no cheaters in a fight...only a winner/survivor and a looser/deadman.
BTW...I teach sword combat, so I'm not just talking out of my a**
 dapi_editor

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Posted: 6/10/2005 1:57:01 PM
The most important rule is not to delude yourself. In a fight anything goes, it's survival.

The best rules about getting into a fight are to avoid them.
Be aware of what is happening around you.
If there are no alternatives to fighting in your own defense, act decisively.
Use whatever comes to hand as a weapon.
Think like a coward-the only hero is a dead hero.
If your opponent goes down make sure he stays down. SMASH, BREAK or CUT something vital
Don't wait around for him or his friends to react, get out of there and get to safety.
Make noise, lots of it, noise alerts people and distracts your opponent.
 mauser

Joined: 1/3/2005
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Posted: 6/10/2005 4:04:35 PM
A sword is great but a hand gun is better.
 dapi_editor

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Posted: 6/11/2005 1:28:35 AM
In some countries possessing a gun will get you 25yrs to life.
 Awnoldschwarzenegger

Joined: 5/1/2005
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Posted: 6/12/2005 12:10:54 PM
The best idea would be not to put yourself in a bad situation period.
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