| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 10/9/2007 10:32:57 PM | Who wrote the Bible? It is a good question.
Certainly not God.
Give this doc a look see, a Christian theology student on a quest to find who wrote the Bible.
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/video/9/4518/6858/45873/67465
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 10/9/2007 10:43:37 PM | .........asking 'who wrote the bible' is like asking who invented the automobile!........it is a simplistic question since no one is insinuating that God himself actually wrote the book!.........the bible is simply a body of works compiled by different followers at different periods in time..............some parts chronicle events, other parts are prophecies and yet others are didactical........each written in different times by different pple under different circumstances.
Now, if you would be asking as to who wrote the Quran, most would answer that it was solely Mohamed. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 10/10/2007 12:43:42 AM | The question was meant as a lead in to the video presented at the link provided. The video is a documentary titled: "Who Wrote the Bible?"
Nice of you to respond without actually looking at the video.
Now, if you would like to discuss what the video has to say, right on.
Just try not to jump the gun by thinking that I am actually asking everyone here who wrote the Bible, I have made it clear many times before (though I recognize the fact that you probably have not read every post I have ever made here) that understand the Bible to be a aggregate of disparate texts rather then a unified coherent whole. ;)
I am unable to start a thread with JUST a link, it is against forum guidelines, hence the question. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 10/10/2007 4:48:14 AM | the first & the original given to Jesus waas Authored by God himself but after...till today its being edited and modified several times.
The book you see now is not the real Bible but a Bible which suits human needs... | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 10/10/2007 6:19:43 AM | Well, I watched the video.
It was good. An honest search by an honest man. He found that it was edited, re-written and definitely underscored by political motivations. Both the Old Testament and the New.
He was also quite disconcerted about the Mary Magdalene text, and the real reason it wasn't included. Wish some certain posters would watch that particular bit!!!
In the end though, he states that one must look at the message, and not the messy way it came about. I notice that he didn't even address the issue if Jesus even existed.
And it was funny the way the Vatican official in charge of the library was hesitant to give his opinion on the veracity of texts, lol, or why certain books were chosen and others were not.
I'd recommend the video, if only as an honest search of one man.
Cheers, Raven | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 10/10/2007 6:48:47 AM | Buddy... you know the answer to this question. :P
A bunch of dudes smokin' the stinkweed... no seriously, if you smoke stinkweed it produces hallucinations. Apparently it also cures cancer *ponder* anyway...
I must read this thing of yours. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 10/10/2007 9:31:45 AM | Good movie, I agree with most of it. The only part I didn't agree with was who wrote the gospels. The guy in the movie seemed to come to the conclusion that the writer was someone else who happened to share the same name as one of the apostles. My understanding is that the name of the person in the title of the gospel isn't supposed to be who wrote it (which is why it's not written in a first hand account), but who's version of the story that the next generation writer used, probably a younger relative or follower of that particular apostle.
the first & the original given to Jesus waas Authored by God himself but after...till today its being edited and modified several times.
Uh... what? Even from the most fundamentalist view of an extremely literal interpretation of the bible, Jesus never held a bible, it was written after his death. You will not find a priest or minister in the world who says that Jesus was given the first bible by God, where did you get that idea? He would have likely held the books that we call the old testament, but by Jesus' time it was already around 1000 years old, God didn't hand Jesus a freshly printed version of some book that had never been seen before, it's what the Jewish faith had been using as doctrine for ages. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 10/10/2007 9:48:58 AM | Paul, Thanks for providing that link.
There is so much more then what could have been covered by that documentary. i would love to see more like this on say the influence of Greek Religion and sun God worship on the New testament Authors.
mor comments lated i need to get some work done. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/4/2008 1:03:28 AM | The bibel was written between 14550 BC and 90 AD.
The old testament was written in hebrew and aramaic, the new in koine greek.
The bible was written by more than 40 different authors, from every walk of life.
old testament: 29 different authors-kings, prime ministers, priests and shephards.
new: 10-11-rabbi, tax collector, fisherman, physicians.
Go To:
http://www.truthnet.org/Christianity/Apologetics/IsthebiblefromGod7
any more questions? i am a bible buff. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/4/2008 8:36:20 AM | There is nothing on the original post's link.
Is there another source for the video? | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/4/2008 10:20:41 AM |
The bibel was written between 14550 BC and 90 AD.
The old testament was written in hebrew and aramaic, the new in koine greek.
The bible was written by more than 40 different authors, from every walk of life.
old testament: 29 different authors-kings, prime ministers, priests and shephards.
new: 10-11-rabbi, tax collector, fisherman, physicians.
any more questions? i am a bible buff.
So who decides which bits get added later & which bits get left out (Book of Enoch etc)?
& the correct answer to the original question is:
"A bunch of stoned Palestinians" | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/4/2008 11:55:03 AM |
The bibel was written between 14550 BC and 90 AD.
14550 BC??
Uh... no. Wrong. Totally utterly wrong. Not your fault but whoever put that one their website needs to club themself to death with a history book for deliberate and willfull ignorance.
Literacy is a specific skill that human societies develop at certain points that are traceable through the archaeological record.
Even Proto-Hebrew did not exist until the 11th century BCE.
The first writing "period" doesn't date before 6000 BCE at best and is likely the Indus language or proto Indo-European... but Sumerian is much later.
No one was literate that early and no one was writing Bibles.
The first Hebrew Bible was not written and collated until the First Temple Period. It "may" have been a collection of oral traditions earlier than that and obviously borrows from other cultural traditions lifting the Adam and Eve and Flood story clearly from other cultures like the Canaanites. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/4/2008 2:22:04 PM | The bibel was written between 14550 BC and 90 AD.
14550 BC??
I think it was a typo, and 1450 BC was intended. At least that's how I read it. It's a reasonable date for the Pentateuch (the first five books, or the Books of Moses, or however they might be referenced).
Edit: some scholars place Job as early as 2166BC (2166-1876 BC as the possible range), but I've always thought that while the period covered may be that early, the actual story wasn't written down until much later, probably after the Pentateuch. Does anyone know definitively whether Job was actually written down this early? | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/4/2008 3:22:10 PM | Now, if you would be asking as to who wrote the Quran, most would answer that it was solely Mohamed.
Mohamed didn't wrote the Quran, his followers did it after his death. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/4/2008 5:17:06 PM | | Lol God didnt write the Bible. lol thats nuts. A lot of people wrote a lot of "books" and then some people with power at that time decided which stories would be in the "Bible" Its a known fact some books of the Bible are left out or didnt make the cut. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/5/2008 12:57:15 PM | the first & the original given to Jesus waas Authored by God himself but after...till today its being edited and modified several times.
The book you see now is not the real Bible but a Bible which suits human needs...
What? Please,please,please, do a little more research. But you may not like what you find.
A bunch of dudes smokin' the stinkweed... no seriously, if you smoke stinkweed it produces hallucinations. Apparently it also cures cancer *ponder* anyway[qoute]  This explanation sounds a little better if you use ergot. My theory is that if this were true, the 60's would have produced a lot of great spritual writings. Instead we got the doors, hendrix, and csn&y. I tried the link and it didn't work for me either. The answer is simple though...man, but inspired man. I've tried to take my comment out of the quote but can't fig it out. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/5/2008 2:36:46 PM |
It has no rival in its pervasive influence upon Western culture, and increasingly over world culture
if thats the case one must point the finger at christianity for how shocking a state this world is in.
which means the bible failed miserably in its objective | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/5/2008 3:59:52 PM | The answer to your question is not difficult, nor is it disputed.
There is no 'one author' of the New Testament; although each Gospel is named after a specific Apostle (ie. John, Matthew etc.), it was not the Apostles themselves who wrote it, but instead, the students (followers) who were evangelized by the Apostles rewrote the stories given to them by each Apostle into manuscript form, which were later compiled into the volume of text we have today.
Essentially, the Bible in its present form was not written all in one continuous shot; it was compiled together by the Church Fathers through gathering all of the manuscripts and documents written by the followers of the Apostles. We must remember that just because each manuscript was written by the followers of each Apostle, doesn't mean that these writers were not alive during the days of Christ. On the contrary, they were alive, but they became evangelized after his resurrection.
Who wrote the Old Testament (Tenakh)? Well, that is a completely different story. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/6/2008 11:49:06 AM | | Who is the bible mostly about? The scriptures were given to the disciples to write down as is found from reading the books of Matthew,Mark,Luke,John and Paul who was surnamed Saul.If this is another attempt to tell ppl that the scriptures can't be believed because of all the misinterpretation during rewritting of the books then save your breath. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/6/2008 12:45:53 PM | Spearhead,
I think you, like many Christians, are misinformed as to who wrote the Gospels. If you were to ask a Priest, a Reverend or your Preacher, he will tell you that the Disciples did not write the Bible - their followers did.
Imagine St. Matthew standing on a hillside somewhere, as an old man, with hundreds of newly evangelized Christians sitting around him, listening to him re-tell the story of Christ. This is how the Gospels were written. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/7/2008 1:58:45 PM | Actually, it was a pagan emporer at a orejudiced majority of christian leaders | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/7/2008 9:25:30 PM |
Who Wrote the Bible?
Well man did it. More specifically, a number of man over the ages.
If you pick the Bible of today, and compare it to one from 200 years ago you will clearly see "add-ons". That's interesting because if God wrote the Bible, it should be perfect, there should be no "add-ons". Otherwise it would imply that God does imperfect work which in turn would imply God is not all knowing. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/8/2008 2:03:53 PM | Ryan my man i am afraid it is you who are misinformed. Whilst Luke and Mark were indeed followers of the disciples. Mathew and John were disciples and there are good independent reasons for thinking that there attributation as gospel authers is genuine. Eusebius specifically states the Mathew wrote his gospel in aramaic, he does not state it was written for him by a folloer as would be the case with Peter, for whome Mark writes his version of the gospel. As for Paul there are no reasons for thinking that the authentic letters that made it to the cannon were not written by him.\
As for the lass who seemed to believe constantine (the pagan emporer) wrote the bible... this is simply rubbish! Constantine who was by this time a christian, played a significant part in pushing for the establishment of the cannon but he certainly did not write any of the texts which were centuries old than he. | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/8/2008 3:11:14 PM | BrokenEcho writes:
The [Bible] was written between 14550 BC and 90 AD.
As the BCE date has already been addressed, I’m wondering if you’d mind clarifying why you chose an ending date of 90 CE? I assume that you are excluding the apocrypha? Also, I was under the impression that most date 2 Peter to the approximately 100 CE (at the earliest, with the possibility it wasn’t written until 160 CE).
old testament: 29 different authors-kings, prime ministers, priests and shephards.
I think that the redactors and Josiah’s reform should probably be included in this list as well.
new: 10-11-rabbi, tax collector, fisherman, physicians.
Also, potentially scribes who inserted such things as the Comma Johannine (which of course some still deny to be a late interpolation), and the Pericope Adulterae.
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romanticoptimist asks:
Does anyone know definitively whether Job was actually written down this early?
Not that I know of. The text is silent on its date of authorship and doesn’t give many hints that allow for dating through textual criticism. According to Harper's Bible Commentary, the ranges are anywhere from as early as the tenth century to as late as the third. Job 3:4 (again, according to Harper’s) is an allusion to Gen 1:3 which is a creation account that is usually dated to after the sixth century BCE Exile. But, the Commentary cautiously ends “Such evidence suggests but does not prove that Job was composed and completed after the Babylonian exile.” If anyone has a copy of the Anchor Bible Dictionary handy, it would probably provide the most “authoritative” concepts on the dating (but then again, with the way Biblical scholarship progresses, perhaps even the ABD is moving into the realm of being dated itself).
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Riff100 writes:
Mathew and John were disciples and there are good independent reasons for thinking that there attributation as gospel authers is genuine.
I’m curious as to why you think John was the actual author of the Gospel attributed to him? Is there a particular scholar you could recommend? The majority of the authors I have read seem reticent to attribute it to John, and actually think it to have potentially been compiled after his death. IIRC, Robert Kysar shows that there are anachronisms that don’t match what an eye-witness at that time would have seen.
Thanks,
DS | |
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| Who Wrote the Bible?
Posted: 4/8/2008 6:58:08 PM |
Who wrote the Bible? It is a good question.
Men like you and I who knew we could suck in a population, keep it in fear, and challenge the king with it.
Nothing more. | |
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