| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 7:20:03 AM | I put this in "Over 45" because I'm thinking that perhaps I'm not the only one "over 45" who is so awfully annoyed by the situations I describe below ...
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Am I being too intolerant if I say I just can't stand it when those cars with the loud BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM stuff pull up next to me? You know, there you are, peacefully sitting at the light, listening to your easy Jazz or even just enjoying the sounds of the area (locusts in the background, chirping birds), perhaps thinking about what you have at home in the fridge that you could easily warm up for dinner and then you hear it off in the distance. You can't miss it. You pray for the light to turn green so you can get away from it, but no such luck.
Suddenly it pulls up right next to you and stops … BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM … you scramble to put your windows up, and while that drowns out a tiny bit of the deafening noise sitting next to you, you are far from escaping it … BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM … your rear view mirror is vibrating, the cup in your cup holder is rattling … it's just deafening ... BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM. Your only desire is to get away from it as quickly as possible and that doggone light just will not turn green.
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You finally make it to the comfort of your home, you've got that little left-over that you were thinking about warming in the microwave, and your mind is wandering about what you'll be up to this evening. You switch on the evening news, and prepare to sit down to your dinner, but the microwave is not quite done, the telephone rings and it's one of your clients. They are having a problem and need to talk to you. All of sudden, you hear it in the background … BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM … it's getting closer … BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM … it's now in front of your house, the windows are vibrating, the glasses on the kitchen counter are rattling ... BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM ... you cannot even hear the other party on the telephone.
Is there anyone else out there that just can't stand that?  | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 7:26:21 AM | It's not that you're intolerant, it's that BA-BOOM BA-BOOM is a jerk. They are committing sound pollution on everyone in the vicinity. I actually suspect people who do that are already suffering some hearing loss and don't realize how loud they are being, but regardless, they aren't going to get nominated for the Nobel peace prize.
I can't stand it either but I try not to get in a frenzy over it. Move to another part of town if it follows you into your kitchen. You can't legally shoot the perpetrator, even though, as they say in Texas, "some people need killing." | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 7:32:20 AM | Many towns, (I'm not a city gal.. so maybe cities also), now have signs posted as you come near town, "Noise Ordinance....."
Mine does, thank goodness.
So yes, legally some of us can do something about it!!
The ba-boom is the main reason behind the signs, (I know because I participated in the town meetings).
Not too sure what you expect from this thread except for a lot of us agreeing with you! | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 7:41:31 AM | ^^^ whole towns are annoyed by it. Surely you didn't think you were the "only one"?
(Don't take that as picking on you, please. It just struck me as funny.) | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 7:42:24 AM | I am quite a bit older than 45. I play and love the loud, high energy, Latin music. Easy listening music makes my skin crawl I see the problem from the other side. I could date anyone who has to listen to country and western background music.
Each to his/her own.
I know that I am in the minority for my age group.
I seriously just don't get how a lot of people my age still listen to the same ole same ole that they have been listening to for decades (and they like it ).
I find pop music so dull.
Now I don't ask anyone to listen to my personal music. I wish they wouldn't expect me to listen to theirs. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 7:53:52 AM | | Perfectly normal feeling, cotter. It's called the generation gap. It's the retribution for what we put our parents through when we were kids. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 7:55:06 AM |
Move to another part of town if it follows you into your kitchen. I live in a community that has a home owner's association and there is a rule about "basic" noise, but that only pertains to excess noise between the hours of 10 PM to 8 AM. Even then, the association has no real power to do anything ... it's just a guideline.
... signs posted as you come near town, "Noise Ordinance....."
Mine does, thank goodness.
The ba-boom is the main reason behind the signs, (I know because I participated in the town meetings). So how does one go about getting something like that started?
Sounds like somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed. 
I'm a musician ... sing Karaoke as well, so it's not like I don't have loud music from time to time or am surrounded by it. However, it's in the confines of my home, and it does not impose on others. I've also had other vehicles pull up next to me with loud blaring music ... but that doesn't bother me ... it's just that awful ... BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM stuff that I find so annoying.
I'd love to actually get the nerve someday to ask someone who is doing that ... how it is they think it's okay to impose that on others. I mentioned that to my daughter and she told me to leave it alone ....  | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 7:55:20 AM | Perhaps it's not that you're annoyed or intolerant - maybe you're like me; getting older and somehow that kind of music simply doesn't sit with us any longer.
I know as a youngster, doing my homework was fine with music blaring away. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 8:16:56 AM | Its really not much different than pulling up alongside a construction crew fixing the road or a building .
Now the windows rattleing .... big transports especially using engin brakes do the same thing.
Its all just part of being in this overly mechanized civilization we have
the boom boys are just naive kids fooling themselves ... thinking they won't destroy their ear fidelity with this loud bass that actually they don't hear properly because they are way too close to the speaker themselves. you have to be 28' away from the source to hear a 20cycle sound ....
part of it is just that macho youth thing .... my dog's bigger / louder than your dog.
Fortunately I have noticed that there are a lot less of these boom dudes than about 5 years ago... at least in GTA ... anyways.
I do think you need to chill a bit ... though .... and put on some Pink Floyd.
or Creed | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 8:21:58 AM | OP I think you and your posts are great. This just happens to be a time where we are polar opposites.
"Karaoke" You have no idea how that word makes me feel. I go to a resort in Latin America that has a bar that has Karaoke. It is the only place in the resort that I won't go, can't do it, don't try to make me. I have been invited to join many North Americans there, which I have had to turn down. Some have told me that the can visually see how revolved I am by the thought when they ask me to go
I agree that other people noise can be very frustrating. I get sick of hearing music most other people enjoy play in other people's backyard. However, I realize that they have to right to listen to what they want.
What drives me nuts is the family across the street that from the moment they get home until the kids go to bed a ball has to hit the wall. It is bang - scream - bang for hours every day. I know other neighbours have told me that I drives them nuts too.
I choose to spend my time at the other end of home where is noise of the ball is less. What can you do
Soon I will retire to a less populated village where hopefully the neighbours will like the same music as I listen to. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 8:23:25 AM |
you have to be 28' away from the source to hear a 20cycle sound ....
That's the point. They don't really care if they can hear it as long as YOU can. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 8:52:29 AM |
So how does one go about getting something like that started? Attend town councel meetings, start there.
I disagree with it just being that we are of another generation.
Yes, each generation wants to claim "their music", I know that.
But the cars that drive around with the "ba-boom" vibrating disturbs a wide spectrum of generations!
I also disagree with the attitude of "just get over it, walk on by".
I don't think blatant rudeness should be just ignored.
Yes, construction (etc.) comes with noise. That has to be tolerated for a time. No comparison there, in my opinion.
The people in those cars with the 'ba-boom' do it for attention and know it is bothering people.
They get a thrill that it is bothering people.
Walk on by? Teach that it's "okay" to be disrespectful? To hurt others?
Not on my watch.
p.s. I love music! And yep, I like it loud too. But SOMEONE in my past taught me to show some respect to others and hence I am aware of other people around me and only put it loud when it is appropriate. If no one teaches, then no one learns. They won't just "grow out of it", not really.
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Posted: 10/13/2007 9:04:47 AM | Good luck getting Ba-Boom to shut up. Its a chick magnet for the little boys.
I went to a car show,where a guy had an older Camaro packed with huge bass speakers and power system that could light up a factory. We didnt *hear* his stereo we *felt* the earth shaking from over two blocks away and wandered over to check it out. There he was, in all his glory, surrounded by dozens of people and drawing the admiring glances of many of the younger, fairer sex. Was that boy going to turn it down? Not on your life. He was getting all the attention his thousands of dollars in sound equipment could buy him even if his main 'skill' was having a large pocket book. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 10:05:18 AM |
Its a chick magnet for the little boys.
There he was, in all his glory, surrounded by dozens of people and drawing the admiring glances of many of the younger, fairer sex. You have to be kidding!!!
He was getting all the attention his thousands of dollars in sound equipment could buy him even if his main 'skill' was having a large pocket book. It does make you wonder what kind of work these guys are doing in order to be able to afford that stuff. Where do they get the money for it? | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 10:14:49 AM | Here they are called "boom boxes". It's pretty bad when you can hear them three blocks away! They did testing on a small group back in May, and found that all 25 people tested, that had the boxes in their cars, had some form of hearing loss, from moderate to severe!
My future son-in-law has one in his car, and I have informed him that if he cranks it with the baby in the car, I would personally rip it out and blow it up! He got my message loud and clear! | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 10:24:54 AM | Pop/rock music especially at concerts hurts my ears. This isn't a joke, just a true fact.
About 15 years ago, I had a hearing test. The results came back as I hear treble way too high and bass way too low. I was told that 60% of Canadians have this problem to some degree.
The last rock concert I went to I thought the gittars where going to explode both my ears and chest. Yet head banging music feels so comfortable to me.
I always knew that I was designed differently. That is my excuse and I am sticking to it. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 11:10:17 AM |
It's pretty bad when you can hear them three blocks away! Ya ... that's the crap I'm talking about. You know it's bad when they're still a block away and it's already vibrating the windows ... and I do not have "cheap" windows in my home.
I have a powerful amplifier and speakers I could crank up ... it's a professional sound system I use for when I put on performances ... but I see no need to do that within the confines of my home and certainly won't do it as I never want to annoy my neighbors.
I have informed him that if he cranks it with the baby in the car, I would personally rip it out and blow it up! I hear it coming from homes as well. In the community here where I live, I know there is a man in his 40's who cranks it up in his car and his house. His teen daughter lives there with her toddler. There's no question about it ... it's cranked while the child is there. I often wonder how the baby tolerates it. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 11:19:36 AM | Hi Cotter! NO, you are NOT 'too intolerant'...
i think its rude, disrespectful, and very egoticastically-presumptuous of the owner/driver of that vehicle 'BoomBooming' people around them... (besides violating city ordinances..) and i feel like telling them to turn that sh*t down, but i like my car without bullet holes in it....... Yes i blast my stereo, but not like that (to the decibel level, bass thumping , mirror-shaking point !) GGRRRRR! the very same people who "do that' are the very same people who are usually FirstIn Line to say "don't be hatin'" when it comes to: culture/cars/'let-me-be-me' sh*t,.... well thats fine & dandy, but not when it violates common courtesy and consideration, there should be no intolerance for that, just the knowledge that the 'Boom-Boom' usually has an attitude attached to it, the peson with the 'attitude' needs to be reminded about common courtesy and consideration.. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 11:28:24 AM | "Its a chick magnet for the little boys.
There he was, in all his glory, surrounded by dozens of people and drawing the admiring glances of many of the younger, fairer sex."
If that is true, then what is my excuse. (See my last post)
Last weekend I worked in the garden at the back of my home for a couple of hours. A new neighbour across sat on a front balcony (she has a huge balcony right across the back of her house overlooking the forest if she wants privacy) the whole time taking on the phone. Honestly, I now know most of her financial info, plus a lot of family stuff I would rather not know. I couldn't believe after living here for 18 years that this new person is so much louder than anyone in this area. Never have I heard neighbours loudly enough to figure out what their conversation was about.
Do you think I can have a rule passed that she has to use her quiet voice? | |
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Posted: 10/13/2007 1:04:57 PM | OMG!!!!! Do you hear yourselves?????
DO you remember being a teenager or even in your twenties with rock 'n' roll or even Hard Rock blaring on your radio,,,,Do you remember your grandparents, teachers and anyone over 30 shaking their heads at us and giving us dirty looks because someone was trying to get us to "Rock arond the CLock"? Remember how you swore you'd never be like them? Look in the mirror folks.
Everytime I think of complaining about my kids HIP HOP shit, I hear my grandfather's complaing voice in my head and I shut my mouth. I agree its annoying and especially when they invade your car and home... but I see no point in getting all bent out of shape about it. Those kids will outgrow listening to that stuff so loud and soon start complaining about the next generation.
HMMM there are some advantages in being old and having young kids. It keeps me tolerant. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 1:10:03 PM | I can't stand it either, but from a couple of perspectives. First, it destroys my music, as you mentioned. Secondly, there is no way to counteract it - I mean, I can't turn my music up that loud - I lack the equipment.
But, on the sad side - what about all these young people who are destroying their hearing? You know, once your hearing is damaged that way, it doesn't come back. It just makes me sad.
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/13/2007 1:27:39 PM |
Look in the mirror folks.
Everytime I think of complaining about my kids HIP HOP shit, I hear my grandfather's complaing voice in my head and I shut my mouth. Sorry "pearl" ... this is not the same at all. I can block HIP HOP shit out too ... or even just walk into another room to get away from it.
We're talking about stuff so loud it will walk your coffee cup across the counter ... coming from the outside of your house, driving down the street. We're talking about stuff that causes your car to vibrate while stuck in traffic ... and often the car creating the noise itself is several cars away.
Growing up, there were four children in our family and no one ever played our Beatles or Jerry and the Pacemaker stuff so loud that it was intolerable. That was not allowed. Our parents brought us up that it was not appropriate. Likewise, my four children were not allowed to force their music listening pleasures (or displeasures) on others either. I guess it's all in the "up-bringing".
My general impression has always been that those creating the offending noise (music or in another poster's case ... loud talk) just have no respect for anyone else in their immediate area and that's something we learn while growing up ... respect for others.
BTW ... I did go ask the man in my community who drives through it with his vehicle BA-BOOMING ... why he does that and why he thinks it's okay to impose his music listening on the whole neighborhood? He straight out told me that it was his right to listen to whatever he wanted to on his radio anytime he felt like it. So then I asked, "What if others don't want to hear it ... does that matter at all to you?" He said, "I don't give a f*ck what others think."
Gee that wasn't too apparent by his actions ... ya think?
But, on the sad side - what about all these young people who are destroying their hearing? You know, once your hearing is damaged that way, it doesn't come back. It just makes me sad. I'm thinking of calling my stock broker and telling him to invest everything I've got into hearing aids. I may not see the profit, but my daughter will "clean up" on it. | |
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