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 Georgiegirl2007

Joined: 8/23/2007
Msg: 1
Doctor Who - please explain things
Posted: 10/16/2007 1:02:04 PM
Some of you will know all the ins and outs of all things Doctor. So I have a question.

Back in the olden days the good Doctor and his side kick would get in his T.A.R.D.I.S. and could end up anywhere in the universe, at any time. But I was watching one of the older new episodes and Rose wanted to go back to the day her father died, and they managed to do so. Not once, but twice.

So how did this happen? Is it something that just happened with the return of the Doctor, or did the TARDIS go in for a service?

Tell me, explain to me, a mere female. Surely I can't be the only one with questions regarding this fantabulous piece of British television history?
 bluebrummie

Joined: 4/6/2006
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Posted: 10/16/2007 1:13:10 PM
It was something to do with a rift in the space time continuum or something techy like that I think!? The episode was called Father's Day and in it Rose travels back in time to meet her long-dead Father, but the Tyler family finds itself battling the Reapers. Her Father gets knocked down by a car in the end but because it didn't happen when it should of at first it changed history so that moment in time kept repeating itself over and over again, like a video recorder on repeat! This caused the rift to be opened by the Reapers, threatening mankind itself! The only way for the Reapers to be banished was for Rose's Father to die as he was meant to and save the future of the Universe! I hope that helps some how, it's the best I can explain it!? I just love Dr Who
 ~Leannie~

Joined: 8/30/2007
Msg: 3
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Posted: 10/16/2007 1:22:38 PM
i love seeing all the places i recognise in newport, but have no idea about tardis time travel :P
 Mr-Bear

Joined: 10/5/2007
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Posted: 10/16/2007 1:48:11 PM
I suspect the Doctor has been doing some tweaking under the bonnet. You know what us blokes are like with machines...
 dibble29

Joined: 7/23/2007
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Posted: 10/16/2007 2:10:02 PM
I think these new doctors must be as handy as they are gorgeous and have fixed it so it goes where they ask it to! Must have used the Sonic Screwdriver!
 - Hula Moo -

Joined: 9/25/2007
Msg: 6
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Posted: 10/16/2007 2:26:59 PM
Good point.
The Doctor never used to be able to control the TARDIS, where/when it went but this time round he's given it precise instructions.
The regeneration to Christopher Eccleston must have turned him into a TARDIS mechanic too.

I'll get me anorak.......
 Ted_Marzipan

Joined: 9/23/2007
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Posted: 10/16/2007 4:01:45 PM
You're thinking of 'Give us a clue' mark! And that was Lionel Blair!
 restless_native

Joined: 12/17/2006
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Posted: 10/16/2007 4:05:49 PM
The most amasing thing about the new Doctor Who is that they have a machine that can take them anywhere in space and time and yet they end up in Cardiff so often.

If anything the new TARDIS needs a service.
 Ted_Marzipan

Joined: 9/23/2007
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Posted: 10/16/2007 4:08:04 PM

that they have a machine that can take them anywhere in space and time and yet they end up in Cardiff so often.


Look,i refuse to be scared by this programme anymore no matter what you say.
 bogglebum2007

Joined: 4/20/2007
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Posted: 10/16/2007 6:07:33 PM
The most amasing thing about the new Doctor Who is that they have a machine that can take them anywhere in space and time and yet they end up in Cardiff so often.
You will find the reason for this is that the TARDIS refuels from the rift that Cardiff is built on. The Tardis has been repaired so that the Doctor now has greater control (give or take 20 years) over when they end up. It is now 2:13am here and I'm too tired to explain the reason they are able to go back to the same point in time. {pssst....my cousin is the continuity expert for the series. In addition his team got to interview Kylie who is in the Xmas episode - the lucky bum!)
 bluebrummie

Joined: 4/6/2006
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Posted: 10/17/2007 1:14:26 AM
^^^^^^^^^^
Yeah that's sort of what I meant as well, oh and I wish I knew your Cousin! LOL.

For those that don't know (and probably don't give a sh*te either lol ) the Christmas episode paves way for the new series to follow and takes place on the Titanic! It also as Catherine Tate as his assistant (not to sure if I will like her as his assistant but we will see! ) She appeared in "The Runaway Bride" which was last Christmas's Special! His previous assistant, Martha Jones, appears briefly some time in the new series next year but can be seen on the excellent spin off series "Torchwood" when it returns. By the way get your kids to watch the other spin off series "The Sarah Jane Mysteries" on CBBC, Mondays, it's rather good (although my kids are too old but I don't care 'cus I still watch it! LOL. ). Sarah Jane was the Doctor's assistant in the John Pertwee/Tom Baker days by the way! I did say I love Doctor Who didn't I?!
 Georgiegirl2007

Joined: 8/23/2007
Msg: 12
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Posted: 10/17/2007 3:32:50 PM
I didn't want to know how they managed to go back to the same place and time twice and meet up with themselves. That bit I understand.

I just wanted to know if it had been explained how the Doctor now has control over the destination.

Did the new series just start with a fixed tardis or did Christopher Eccleston do marvellous things with his sonic screwdriver?
 richard0156

Joined: 7/9/2007
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Posted: 10/17/2007 3:41:14 PM
it started with a fixed tardis with no explaination well maybe it was fixed for service in the time lord wars , well it needed a service for that .
Or poss the BBC thuought that us TV viewers would not notice the continuity slip .
Anyway i go with the flow as i enjoy it ,been watcjing it since day one with william hartnell well thats my age shown now
 All_hail_to_the_Hypnotoad

Joined: 10/12/2007
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Posted: 10/17/2007 3:42:56 PM
There is such an obvious answer to this.
When The Doctor was first incarnated, he was incarnated as a woman, given his Tardis..........and never bothered to read the bloomin manual!!!!

A later male probably discovered it under a pile of Marie Claires and gave it a quick scoot.............thus enabling targeted travelling.

Hope this settles the question?
 bogglebum2007

Joined: 4/20/2007
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Posted: 10/18/2007 1:19:39 AM
I just wanted to know if it had been explained how the Doctor now has control over the destination
The doctor has always had control of the destination unless the Tardis:-

a. had a fault - (conveniently in some previous episodes)
b. was hijacked (again in some previous episodes)
c. was psychically drawn to specific places.
d. was banned from travel by the Time Lords (as in the John Pertwee years)
 dub08

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Posted: 6/9/2008 12:49:26 PM
The Doctor now has control of the destination of the tardis because its a television programme and thats how the script was written!!! Sorry to spoil it for you!!


I love Dr Who by the way but prefer Martha to Catherine Tate character!!
 Bright1Raziel

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Posted: 6/10/2008 8:33:56 AM
*time for me to put my Geek hat on*
*dons an elf hat*

Ok. The doctor strated out with the ability to controll the tardis. However the tardis is a living machine with a heart and mind of its own and will ocasionally take the doctor to places that it thinks he needs to be.

There was a time when the tardis was damaged and could only go in a relative direction. (forwards in time, backwards in time, to a particular star system, ect) However this problem was fixed when the doctor ended up on Galaphry and the tardis got a service (its time circuits and chemelonic circuits were repaired but the chemilonic circuts were later damaged again). Since that time the doctor has had full controll over where the tardis goes, but dose not always exercise it because he has learned to trust the tardis to take him where he needs to be.

It should also be neted that stearing through spacetime is a very inexact science. although humans do eventualy learn the secreate of time travel, they can never go to very precise co-ordinates like the timelords can. And the doctor is slightly lazy and can't always be bothered to steer a precise course.

So the doctor often seems surprised to arive at a particular place or time, because he has left the steering up to the tardis either because he got distracted from driving or because the tardis wanted to take him to a particular place.

Hope that helps. and now I feel like a majour geek.
 MrJohnnyB

Joined: 7/15/2007
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Posted: 6/10/2008 8:36:29 AM
I personally blame Gordon Brown, probs was to do with Stealth Taxation if u ask me.
 lush1964

Joined: 3/21/2007
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Posted: 6/10/2008 8:38:44 AM
Will ask a higher being this question.... my 9 year old son... watch this space lol
 How_Can_That_Be

Joined: 4/7/2008
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Posted: 6/10/2008 12:09:38 PM
Right, the Doctor has, for the most part, always had control over the destination.

In the new series stories are mainly set on Eath in the present day because it presents familiarity to the viewer and a sense of peril (i.e. Earth couldnt be destroyed in the 1800's cos its still here, though time can be altered i guess).

The reason we dont go to alien worlds in this series as much is the cost. These days, we'd expect alien worlds to be fantastical CGI, whereas in the old days we were happy with some corridors and a quarry. Try doing that today and it wont stand up very long.

The last episode of the "classic" series had the Doctor taking his companion home to what was modern day Earth at the time, which should tell you he can control the time and destination.

What he would do often in the old days (and i believe he's done once this series) is engaged essentially a "random destination" button. He can travel to any planet and any time within that planet's history.

Ive kind of lost track of my point so ill stop here. And yes, i was very young when i went off, but thank god for UK Gold in my childhood.

Jeez im a nerd lol
 JustAndy

Joined: 8/31/2005
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Posted: 6/20/2008 11:08:50 PM

Right, the Doctor has, for the most part, always had control over the destination.

Which would explain exactly why he dropped Sarah-Jane Smith off *nowhere* near Croydon. Or pehaps not...


The reason we dont go to alien worlds in this series as much is the cost

Which also explains why Dr #3 (Pertwee) spent the vast majority of his time in a shed at Unit.


What he would do often in the old days (and i believe he's done once this series) is engaged essentially a "random destination" button

There have also been several "plot devices" over the years which have left the doctor with various levels of control (or, more often, lack thereof) over the TARDIS. (By "plot device", I do of course mean "BBC Drama Money Savers". So pretty much the same thing that leaves the modern Doctor looking like he's wandering around a place that looks like it's Cardiff with London street signs hung up...)

And you know what? Despite having watched the show since Troughton's latter days, and seeing the unholy abomination that was Colin Baker, I *STILL* love it to this day. Indeed, I'll even defend Sly McCoy's [arguably the longest serving doctor] portrayal, because in many ways he was the "darkest" of the doctors - but had awful scripts to deal with (remember "The Happiness Patrol" where he takes on Bertie Basset...Err...sorry I mean "The Kandy Man"? Even Georgina Hale's fabulous legs - I was in my early 20's at the time, and thought she was quite the hottie - couldn't save that one) and Bonnie Langford (I guess someone thought it was a good idea...)






(So it transpires there actually is one good thing about realising that I'll be alone and dateless for the rest of my life - I can actually talk about Dr Who in public now without fear of it ruining my chances with the unfairer sex)
 leggymaturemom

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Posted: 6/25/2008 2:26:17 PM
i think in the older series it was storylined that it would end up anywhere for the mystery of it all. But think that would fall foul now. Other questions though...
He only has two more bodies left as can only regenerate 12 times thus 13 bodies
So what happens after the next two regenerations?
If Jack Harkness didnt know about the doctor and had been waiting for him to meet again, why did he not say he had met earlier, as he has been involed with the military and would have known due to Martha jones working for the same organisation and thus would have known the doctors input previously.
Also the doctor has a grand daughter as per first series with William Hartnell, What happened to her?
The tardis has been completely changed from the series and the movie. So must have had the decorators in.
And will he run into himself again as he did in the Three Doctors and the Five Doctors etc?
 TallGraham

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Posted: 6/25/2008 4:51:19 PM
This show is great. I love it and don't really go for all the scientific explanations of how things work. It is pure escapism for me.

The original idea of the TARDIS was that it would morph into any shape to fit with its surroundings. However this cost a lot of money for the BBC to keep doing all the time. A bright spark decided that the TARDIS would become broken and stuck as a blue police box.

If anyone remembers the old episodes with the Master his TARDIS could still change form all the time
 dizzylizzys

Joined: 5/19/2008
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Posted: 6/28/2008 8:49:35 AM
well i know its sad but i will be watching tonight lol
as the things i love the best are back
he didnt kill them off lol
so its back to hiding behind the sofa for me lol
 dizzylizzys

Joined: 5/19/2008
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Posted: 7/1/2008 5:04:11 AM
after sats prog
will the doc be the same person?
or do we get another doctor
could he be a she lol
well have to wait till sat to find out

dizzyx
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