| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 3:22:00 PM | Dogs and mange. I thought I would share this with you dog lovers such as myself..
My uncles dog had it(mixed breed), my buddies dog had it (sharpai) and my dog might have it.. My uncle spent a couple hundred dollars to cure it in his dog.. My buddy spent 400 dollars on pills, dips and some gas chamber treatment and the dog still had it and it made him sick.. .. I ran across this cure for it with tons of people stating how well it works..
Cure 1
Ted, of Bangkok, Thailand writes, "The best cure for dog mange is to mix a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution with water and add borax. Dissolve thoroughly. Wash the dog with it once a week. Do NOT WASH THE solution left on the dog with ANY WATER. Do not wipe the dog dry. The solution will take effect on mange. The treatment period should not be longer than a month or two. The dog will probably not be resistant as the treatment is painless. This has worked well for me."
Cure 2
the appropriate measures are: 2 cups of Hydrogen Peroxide 1% + 2 cups of water + 3 heaping Tablespoons of Borax. This is the mixture that is poured over the freshly bathed dog and do NOT dry them off. I let mine outside to run off some of the moisture.
Cure 3
“These are the ingredients I used. You must buy these, nothing else, no substitutes. 20 MULE TEAM BORAX, it will say natural laundry booster under Borax, you can get it at Wall Mart Super Centers, and _______ ORGANIC APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, IT'S RAW AND UNFILTERED, You can only get it at a health food store. ( Do not buy at a grocery store, those vinegars only smell and look like vinegar, but they have absolutely no medicinal value.) The third and last ingredient is simple cheap, people shampoo, like VO5, or Suave.”
For anyone that wants the web sight write me.. Also use caution with this as it’s on the web and I don’t know how safe it is.. But I’m trying it on my dog and will let you know what happens.. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 3:26:24 PM | | SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO FIND A NEW WOMAN | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 3:36:22 PM | | Thanks for staying on topic as the rules state. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 3:48:35 PM | OP
What is mange? I have heard of this before, but realy never knew what it was.
I ask because I just adopted a dog, from the shelter.
He was found as a stray, and in very poor shape when the shelter found him.
They said he was living on the streets for quite a while, by his condition.
He looks clean, I just bathed him again last night, but he itches ALOT!
He also has a problem with a sore ear. The vet from the shelter prescribed
ear cleaner and some drops, but it doesnt seem to be helping.
Usually yogurt in a dogs diet will treat some ear infections, not his.
I looked at his skin, it looks clean, but he is constantly scratching.
Is there a visable rash?
How do you know if your dog has mange? The vet saw him right after I adopted
him, and didnt mention any skin problems, but I wonder why the itching all the time.
He does not have fleas, and I use the frontline drops on him, so I know he hasnt
gotten any. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 3:54:22 PM | Mange is like a mite that gets under the skin or in the hair follicle.. it causes them to itch like crazy, lose hair, develop sores and tuff skin.. In extreme case it can lead to death..
Sometimes it is hereditary and sometimes I’m told it can be picked up, bad diet can case it also I’m told..
Your dog could just have fleas.. but also could have dry skin or mange. I’m told all dogs carry it a little bit but when it gets out of hand is when you have problems..
A better definition is available on a simple Google search..
A vet can test for it. But as I said before it can be very expensive to treat.. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 3:58:35 PM | | Mange is a mite that lives in the skin and hair folicals, the main sign that you will notice is hair loss, sometimes with redness or flaky skin. The dog/cat will itch. In some aminals this will get bad enough that they will loss all there hair and in very extram cases can led to death. There are more than one kind of mange not all can be treated, but most can, some breed are more sensitive than others. Enviroment also plays a large roll in it, wet/damp conditions tend to leed to more mange. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 4:04:43 PM | thanks, googled it.
I do not think it is that, thank God !
I do not see any soreness on skin or ears.
It says humans can catch it, Yuck.
Good luck, I hope the treatment works.
I'm going to copy it and save it, just incase.
Let us know how you make out, if possible.
Poor dog, that has got to be driving him nuts. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 4:05:20 PM | | Summer it sounds like he might be fighting a yeast infection or food alergy, they normaly effect the skin and make them itch really bad....stay away from food with corn in it...lamb and rice formula food are the easiest on a dog system. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 4:25:55 PM | Thanks for that
polgara,
You may be right on that. I have been feeding him a better diet lately.
But he was living on trash when they found him. (poor boy)
They said he was holding a tin can, in his paws like a racoon, eating
the remains from the bottom of the can.
Plus with the shelter animals, they are fed whatever is donated.
The foster he stayed with for a few days, was feeding him price chopper
brand dogfood. So it is a very good possibility a food allergy is the cause.
I will pick up some lamb and rice formula food for him tomorrow.
When I got him he had a very upset stomach, that cleared up, so you
just may be right on it being a food allergy. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 4:43:57 PM | jimi77 - I so wish you wouldn’t use borax on your pet. Boric acid and sodium borate (borax) is potentially toxic to people and pets. Serious toxicity is more likely with repeated exposure to raw or abraded skin or from repeated ingestions. Still, there are those that say this works, however it must be used for several months and the risk to the pet doesn't seem worth it. Nor motor oil. Nor kerosene. Or even sulfur. Benzyl peroxide can cause skin irritation, notice this when you apply it to your skin. It does nothing to the mite but causes more skin issues for the dog.
Summerbout - if you would like to email me directly, I can give advice on the ear issue.
Many breeds are more prone to mange (bull dogs like the boxer, pit bull, staffie, etc also the great dane, Shar Pei, GSD, just to name a few). The mange is generally something that puppies and young dogs with suppressed immune systems may get. NOTE - all dogs have some mange to a degree, it is those certain breed, inheritance and suppressed immune systems that make the dog need medical attention.
There are several types of mange, but the two more commonly diagnosed are sarcoptic mange and demodex mange. They live in the hair follicle and to have a proper dx, a skin scraping must be done. NOTE - sarcoptic mange is a zoonotic disease (this means YOU can contract this - often referred to as scabies).
A great product that helps with sarcoptic mange is revolution, which prevents heartworm dz, fleas, ear mites and the American dog tick. Great product.
I have seen mange effect dogs for life, due to a suppressed immune system, the treatment just wasn’t ever 100%. It’s a miserable thing to watch the dog go through, especially knowing that the treatment was only going to help, not cure. | |
|
jimi77
|
Joined: 7/13/2004
Msg: 11 | |
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/23/2007 5:35:33 PM | Thanks tejas_yuki
but according to the original poster and this is a quote..
"Boric acid is not recommended for use as it is much more toxic than borax. Borax's toxicity is about 3000 mg/kg, which is the equivalent toxicity to about that of salt. (check wikipedia). The idea is to make a solution of borax so that the solution can cover the entire body and penetrate through the skin of the dog to kill the demodex mites, for example. To use a spot treatment by pure powder will take an infinitely long time as it does not get to it through the dog's skin."
"The problem about benzoyl peroxide is the upper limit by which you can use it without effect the dog as it is somewhat more toxic if given beyond a 10% concentration. 5% is usually a safe concentration. Benzoyl peroxide because of its toxicity is somewhat of an insecticide, while hydrogen peroxide is not, what it is in the original formulation is that it is a penetrant allowing the borax to go through the skin. Now some did not like hydrogen peroxide due to its limited supplies, so they make use of apple cider vinegar. For me a regular vinegar will do. Both a vinegar and hydrogen peroxide has two similarities. It is both a penetrant and when added with a safe insecticidal material such as borax, which has an toxicity on LD 50 equivalent to that of salt, this is the preferred method. However, one should not use boric acid since there are reported deaths associated with boric acid but not borax."
so you see they recomend not useing them..but hydrogen peroxide and borax.. not boric acid.. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/24/2007 7:16:42 AM | Boric acid AND borax - neither is recommended - both are toxic.
The OP said he was going to try it. Why try something toxic WITHOUT being under the care of a veterinarian? (As ivermectin, often used to treat mange, is also toxic).
Typical treatments used can be fatal in an animal if not dosed corrected or prescribed correctly. Best to be under a vets care for proper use and treatment.
BUT, there are always those that want to try things themselves to save money and there are risks involved. If the dog dies or becomes deathly ill from liver toxicity or has a sever reaction and brought into the vet for other reasons caused by using such home remedies, maybe the owner will feel bad and in turn, learn a horrible lesson. It can even cost MORE than treatment would have cost them, in the event of an emergency. I have seen first hand adverse reactions to medications, both prescribed and home remedy type treatments. The owners cry and feel horrible. Not to mention the expense they incur.
My point in my post was— PLEASE see a vet and get proper medications under the vets care. I love home remedies, truly. I do. I take herbal supplements and use natural supplements on my dog, but . . . anything my dog takes is vet prescribed (she provides traditional and alternative vet care with natural supplements and holistic medicine). My experience also comes from working in a clinic and seeing things first hand.
Again, please don't use the borax or any other household item mentioned. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/24/2007 11:11:49 AM | You do want to make sure it really is mange you're dealing with.
One of my acquaintances had a dog who was always suspected of having it, but it turned out he had a hereditary skin disorder, which made his fur fall out in clumps, gave him funny looking skin and generally made him look sorta like a miniature werewolf. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/24/2007 7:28:05 PM | | I took my found on the roadside pup to the vet, He had mange very badly. my vet suggested putting him down but them cute lil brown eyes said no. I mey an old blacl man who told me to soak the dog with burnt motor oil evry single spot on his body real good and keep him wet with the used oil all the time so I did. when I took him back to my vet he said I see you took my advice and got another doggy.. I said no I didnt doc and told him what I done. He was amazed so that will work even when the vet gives up hope :) | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/24/2007 8:03:33 PM | | Its hard to find a vet that supports home cures. They are in it for money and medicine not telling people to soak a dog in Borax or burned motor oil. I f the motor oil thing worked thats great but it is known to cause cancer although I don't know about after it is burned. There are many cures that people should try at home if the vet fails. One must research the cures themselves and follow their own judgment. | |
|
| Dogs and mange
Posted: 10/26/2007 1:59:47 PM | One of my friends' dogs had mange and her vet gave the dog all sorts of medicated creams and pills and a few injections and after 6 months there was no change in her dog's skin. She decided to stop using the stuff the vet gave her (which cost a pretty penny) and changed to baby moisturizers and baby aveeno shampoo with aloe vera and started giving her fish oil pills and cleaned the sores with peroxide and antibacterial Ozenol and within a month the dog had perfect skin and a nice shiny coat. her home experiment cost her a total of $65 and her vet's pills, creams, and shots were costing her aprox $200 a month.
Most vets are in it just for the money and want to perscribe everything under the sun eventhough there are a lot of things you can buy for children that work just as well if not better.
When my dog contracted kennel cough (bordatella) my vet actually told me that the medication she usually prescribes wouldn't do much for her because the infection was in her throat , not in her lungs, she told me to use childrens benylin for dry coughs and it worked wonders... there are a lot of different home remedies that you can use but if you are unsure ask your vet or pick up a few of the home veteranary hand books. (if it's something serious they will tell you to see your vet, but otherwise they will recomend all sorts of home remedies such as, if you cut your dog's toe nail too short use a mixture of corn starch and flour and apply to the bleeding area, it will clot it almost imideately. | |
|
|
Home
login 
