| McCanns Mortgage Paid From Funds !!
Posted: 11/1/2007 12:52:47 AM | I read an article the other day (sorry no link) about the McCanns using money donated to the "Maddie Fund" for paying off their own mortgage.
They both have a great earning capacity between them already as doctors and have a very grand house.
Do you think this is a slap in the face for all that have donated or do you think this has aided them in their cause ? | |
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| McCanns Mortgage Paid From Funds !!
Posted: 11/1/2007 12:58:41 AM |
I read an article the other day (sorry no link) about the McCanns using money donated to the "Maddie Fund" for paying off their own mortgage.
They both have a great earning capacity between them already as doctors and have a very grand house.
Do you think this is a slap in the face for all that have donated or do you think this has aided them in their cause ?
they dont have a great earning capacity when they have both been on unpaid leave for several months whilst trying to get their daughter back.
The fund is to help them, what are they supposed to do, lose their house?! | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 1:09:52 AM | No, the fund is to help find Maddie.
As two doctors, their combined annual income is probably in excess of a quarter of a million a year. That's a hell of a lot of money.
They could go back to work (sounds harsh but it's true); they could sell their house and downsize; they have options.
Using funds donated in good faith by others is just wrong, just as it would be wrong for the fund to pay their legal fees. They should not benefit from it in any other way than to fund search avenues.
Who paid the mortgage of Ben Needham's mum? Or Sarah Payne's? Or Jamie Bulger's?
EDIT: Just heard on the news that Gerry is going back to work for three mornings a week.... | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 1:12:41 AM |
The fund is to help them, what are they supposed to do, lose their house?
What would any normal couple with less earning capacity have done in that situation.........the average person would have had to have gone back to work after a bereavement/similar situation so why shouldnt they ?
IMO I think those that have given so graciously should feel insulted and its done nothing for their public image/sympathy . | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 1:20:35 AM | What would any normal couple with less earning capacity have done in that situation.........the average person would have had to have gone back to work after a bereavement/similar situation so why shouldnt they ?
IMO I think those that have given so graciously should feel insulted and its done nothing for their public image/sympathy .
well they arent any normal couple, they had the ingenuity to do something about their plight and to try and get as much coverage for their case as possible to assist in the search for their daughter
however, as often happens in this case, people take the opportunity to turn against them, such as the holier than though parents who still want to punish them for leaving her in the apartment.
if a similar situation occurs to someone who is more than keen to castigate the McCanns, then I'm sure some of us, like myself, will only be too keen to feel rather smug | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 1:32:30 AM |
well they arent any normal couple
Correct , thats why the rest of my sentence continued but was not quoted by yourself to say .........."in that situation"
however, as often happens in this case, people take the opportunity to turn against them
Agree but on the flip side many more have backed them or how else would they have been in such a strong financial position?........even to the extent of paying their mortgage for them.
such as the holier than though parents who still want to punish them for leaving her in the apartment.
IMO It was pure neglect , they left their children alone in that apartment every night and wasnt a "one off " | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 1:35:25 AM | well they arent any normal couple,
No, they are very high earners.
they had the ingenuity to do something about their plight and to try and get as much coverage for their case as possible to assist in the search for their daughter
Shame they didn't use that ingenuity in the first place to ensure that their young children were properly supervised and cared for.
however, as often happens in this case, people take the opportunity to turn against them, such as the holier than though parents who still want to punish them for leaving her in the apartment.
They left three under 5s in an unsecure room, with access to a main road, unsupervised. Not for 5 mins, not once, but all evening for several nights. Holier than thou? Damn right! Neglect. No other word for it.
if a similar situation occurs to someone who is more than keen to castigate the McCanns, then I'm sure some of us, like myself, will only be too keen to feel rather smug
Nice! Really, really nice.
I went abroad with my 12 year old. I wouldn't have left her in the same circumstances that they left those children.
Their guilt or innocence is, however not the issue for debate. They should not benefit from the Maddie fund. Simple as. | |
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| McCanns Mortgage Paid From Funds !!
Posted: 11/1/2007 1:39:22 AM | They used the fund twice, about £4000 i do believe.
Yes the father is on unpaid leave but at the end of the day that fund is for trying to find the poor child.
They SHOULD sell their house and downgrade. Have you seen their house on the news? Is it really so important to keep your house when in reality most of us would have sold the house to use towards helping find the child.
Oh and they left their kids for 3 hours each night of their holiday. Maybe the fund should provide them with parenting classes and what neglect actually means. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 1:55:39 AM | Its important for them to keep the house they are in now, the house that Maddy knows. If she is ever found, and we all hope she is found alive and well, she will need some sort of stability and familiar surroundings to come home to after whatever ordeal she has been through.
If the fund money is the only way to do this, then I am quite happy for the money I have donated to be used. I see it as a fund to support the whole family not just little Maddy. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 1:57:14 AM | At the end of the day, No matter what anyone feels about the McCanns that money was not there to be used for paying off a mortgage.
After losing a child ( she died) my then wife and I were devastaded, and yes it made us ill. I was left with no other choice than to go back to work. Thats how it is.
Gerry McCann could have gone back to work a long time ago. They have many helpers to assist with the continued search.That is what the fund is for.
Not being harsh, thats how it is. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 1:59:49 AM | | I dont believe they should have used the funds. Like Angel says downgrading would have been a better idea after all is there not one of us here that wouldnt sell everything we had if we thought there was the slightest chance it would help to get our lost child back. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 2:32:42 AM | 'Money' will not bring this little girl back!!
Down sizing, selling up etc......even going back to work!!! i believe Gerry has returned to work today i hear in the news and i cant imagine how difficult that must be.
If your little girl was out there in the big bad world....u didn't know where she was, if she was safe and well or even if she was alive could you go back to work? i certainly couldn't!, i would be beside myself with grief. My heart goes out to them! They have to live with the fact they left their children unsupervised whilst they wined and dined nearby for the rest of there lives. Bad publicity isn't going to help them, after all its there daughter for god sake! A huge price to pay for a very irresponsible mistake. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 2:57:35 AM |
'Money' will not bring this little girl back!!
Theres a possibility it might ............thats what the "Maddie Fund" was set up for no matter how minute the chances.
If your little girl was out there in the big bad world....u didn't know where she was, if she was safe and well or even if she was alive could you go back to work?
Most have to, look at the poor working class parents of the victims of the Moors Murderers. The pity angle really dosent wash with me im afraid.
A huge price to pay for a very irresponsible mistake.
A consequence of their actions ....we all have them !!
My thoughts are solely for that poor child and not the neglectful parents who deem it fit to spend well wishers money on paying off their mortgage !!
In the eyes of the public another "irresposible mistake" surely? | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 3:27:39 AM | | Goodness me. People still dont get it, do they??!! The press is the big bad wolf in this case! Heather Mills has a very valid point. Even if the McCanns ever get their daughter back, they will always have this hanging over them. Actually, it was incredibly irresponsible of them to leave their children, Mark Warner provide a nannying service that could of babysat for them, but they chose not to use it. I know this because I used to work for them! It has not been confirmed or denied by the family that they have used the funds to pay for their mortgage, that was press speculation AGAIN!! We have actually been given very little information that isnt speculation and before you judge, put yourselves in their shoes. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 3:32:36 AM |
Goodness me. People still dont get it, do they??!! The press is the big bad wolf in this case! Heather Mills has a very valid point. Even if the McCanns ever get their daughter back, they will always have this hanging over them. Actually, it was incredibly irresponsible of them to leave their children, Mark Warner provide a nannying service that could of babysat for them, but they chose not to use it. I know this because I used to work for them! It has not been confirmed or denied by the family that they have used the funds to pay for their mortgage, that was press speculation AGAIN!! We have actually been given very little information that isnt speculation and before you judge, put yourselves in their shoes.
I am glad somebody else is sticking up for the parents here. Stop thinking of the money and think of what they are gonna have to live with (and without) for the rest of their years. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 3:53:45 AM | The thing in my opinion is, what else was the money actually going to be used for as far as im concerned the police are a free service, so the money had to be used for something, paying a mortgage is fair enough, and the person that said doctors earn 125,000 each per year lives in dream land, maybe a surgeon the average doctor earns half that, I'm also guessing they've not heard of economies of scale (the more you earn the more you spend).
More importantly if you donate money its gone, i dont go whinging to the poppy appeal when they have to spend money on admin, a donation is a donation. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 4:03:15 AM |
We have actually been given very little information that isnt speculation
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2771369.ece
I beg to differ, its a fact that 2 payments were made on their mortgage until they become "suspects in the case" then payments stopped !!
Heather Mills has a very valid point.
And also a very healthy bank account now too ...maybe the public should set up a fund for her and foot the bill (no pun intended) for a new leg as the poor woman only has £50 m coming her way !!
It wasnt neglect. The point of a package holiday for mum dad and kids is that it is fully contained and secure. They probably were not the only couple to leave the kids in bed while they went for a few drinks that night. and the travel agent probably told them yes Mr and Mrs Mcann, of course its a secure complex where you can also let your hair down and not worry bout the kids.
Its positions like these that Paedos take on where they can be near kids .........i for one wouldnt even trust a baby sitting service at a Butlins, a smiling "Redcoat" could be anyone ....they are still strangers.......Nothing beats a parents watchful eye IMO !! | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 4:20:40 AM | well here it is folks straight fro the fund website :-
Right Eye
Fund Details
Statement by the Board of
Madeleine’s Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited
The Fund would like to thank everyone for their kindness, support and generosity.
Madeleine’s Fund was set up to:
1.
Find Madeleine;
2.
Support the Family; and
3.
Bring the abductor or abductors to justice
and subject to that to help other missing children | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 4:39:39 AM | I have stopped believeing what the papers say about the Mc Canns, its all just to sell papers, they have got so many things wrong in the past.
As for going back to work, I dont know if I could do that if my little girl was still missing, I would be doing all I could to help find her..
Is all good and well to say what we would do in their position, but until it happened to you how would you know what you would do.. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 4:51:43 AM | Its sad to see that people are still judging the McCanns. They've lost a child, they are not going to forget how, and god knows how many times they have prayed that they could turn back the clock and still have their child with them.
Stop judging them, whats done is done and i for one would wish for nothing more than their daughter be found and brought home where she belongs.
If i were to lose a child, id not want to lose my home. Id use whatever money i had to ensure that when my daughter was found she'd be returning to her home that she knows and loves. They cant downsize or move on untill they know where their daughter is-whatever the outcome. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 5:02:57 AM | | I gave to the McCanns fund, and i dont care what they do with the money, i just hope it helps them, and these people who are in the witchunt ,lets hope that whatever is around the corner in life for them,its not as terrible as what the McCanns are going through. | |
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| McCanns Mortgage Paid From Funds !!
Posted: 11/1/2007 5:16:51 AM | I think it's got to the stage where these people are damned if they do and damned if
they don't! With the media circus in full swing,and every little thing they do under the spotlight, there's always going to be somebody complaining.
If they went back to work they'd have been called callous, if they let their mortgage slide till they lost their home, they'd have been called sympathy seekers!
I don't know if they are innocent or guilty of the allegations and speculation that's been levelled at them, but making them into celebrities is not the answer at all, and all this media hype and "did they/didn't they" speculation doesn't help Maddie if the poor child's still alive and waiting to be found. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 5:36:33 AM |
Madeleine’s Fund was set up to:
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Find Madeleine;
2.
Support the Family; and
Well that covers them on the financial aspect, as support the family can cover a multitude of aspects of support..
I have voiced my opinions on this many times, usually against the more sympathetic, but I will just reiterate what I feel..
Many who gave to this fund would not have expected it to fund the mccann's financially, ie pay their mortgages, it was given to help a fund be set up to directly financially assist the search for Madeleine, failing that to then aid the numerous other charities that assist in cases of child abduction, missing children..
I wonder if the other charities also use their funds to pay for their own personal mortgages ??
What the mccann's did was not a mistake, it was gross negligence and duty of care towards their own children, consecutively committed throughout the holiday, with offers of free babysitting services declined on each and every occasion..
I doubt we will ever know what has happened to Madelaine, but I feel that now the Trust should be taken and given to appropriate appointed Trustees who have no vested interest, other than to see that the funds are administered for their due purpose, to aid the search for Madelaine and other missing children..
Yes they have lost a daughter, entirely their own fault, but it is now time for them to continue their lives and support themselves which they are more than capable of doing..
How many other parents of missing children must feel like they are having a knife twisted in their hearts, when they see these 2 pathetic excuses of parents being allowed, and assisted to live their already privileged lives, off the back of freely given funds by the public, which were freely given not for the purpose that they are now being used..
Wether Madaline is found or not, I still totally believe that the couple should face charges re their conduct whilst on holiday towards the children who were dependant on them for love, care and protection..
Its time for the media circus to stop, kick the mcanns off their magic roundabout, and lets see what happen when they take a trip on the ghost train back into the past, and the nights that they failed to provide the 3 basic laws of child raising, adhered to by most parents..
To provide, love, care and protection, until their charges were 18 years of age and deemed by the world as Adults and being capable of looking after themselves.. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 5:53:58 AM | Loads and loads..
But they did not result in my child being abducted whilst on holiday with me, because I was out, without them ...
Attacking the poster not the post is against pof rules, if my opinion offends so be it, but to address me personally just shows a lack of thought behind the question, and the inability to construct a constructive question appertaining to my opinions..
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Yes. How else do you think the premises from which a charity operates are funded?
Premises being the fundamental word here, not personal residences that in time will gain in monitory value which will not be part of the fund, unless ofcourse the house has been transferred to the fund upon the mccann's deaths, which I very much doubt, but if I am wrong I apologise in advance..
As to the question re charges, why not ?? if it stops another parent making the same decision whilst on holiday then it would most certainly be worth it..
Do we really think that they should be allowed to escape any sort of conviction, and if they do what sort of example are we setting to others that might do as the mccann's did, and when caught, use the mccann's as a possible aid to their defence ..
There is a much bigger picture here to be addressed, and it is one that should not be taken with a sympathetic view, more the actual facts that led to this terrible occurrence in a child's life, and possible loss of said life..
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cargy
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| McCanns Mortgage Paid From Funds !!
Posted: 11/1/2007 6:14:18 AM | Just 2 points from a previous post:
I wonder if the other charities also use their funds to pay for their own personal mortgages ??
Yes. How else do you think the premises from which a charity operates are funded?
...and ANY charity that employs people to work for them, pays a salary. That salary is used for the living expenses and accomodation of the employee.
One could argue that the McCanns are employees of the fund for every second they spend in the act of trying to find their child.
Whether Madaline is found or not, I still totally believe that the couple should face charges re their conduct
...with what intention?
...punishment?
I should think the loss of the child is pretty much a punishment, and have no doubt they have seen the error of their ways.
...so they think twice before doing it again?
I would think the lesson's well and truly home by now!
...it'll bring Maddie back?
I doubt it! | |
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