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| Imagin a world without white supremacy
Posted: 11/1/2007 12:05:41 PM | | There seem to be some pretty intelligent people on this site and my favorite feature is the forum so I like subjects that stimulate conversation. This is touchy but everyone on this site is an adult so here goes. A friend of mine posed this question to me. Image looking at the world not through the eyes of White Supremacy. Read the definition of two adjectives in the dictionary before you respond, black & white. Many black women today I would say over 50% are wearing hair weaves or some extension or wig as a result of self astream. Micheal Jackson bleached himself white and these are a few examples of people feeling inferior whether people will admit it or not. Now I know that other woman who are not black are doing some of the same things to their hair including white woman however this is far from the point. Image if the roles were reversed and Black Supremacy was the order of the day and Europeans were enslaved, I know it is very difficult to imagin and that is why I posed this question. Try to put yourself in another persons shoes and ask yourselves what would you do and how would you feel. Would you say that Whites who were victims of the slave trade deserve some form of reparations. Today if you were to ask most whites they would say we had nothing to do with the slave trade which is true but were is your sense of justice, what if it was your ancestors I'm pretty sure your opinion would be different if you are honest. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 2:30:00 PM | | I think this is in the wrong forum. It's much more a political thread than science/philosophy, but it's an interesting topic. My opinion is that people in need of help are generally better served by means other than purely monetary payouts. I'd like to see stronger affirmative action in education (obviously that'd need to include monetary help as well) and some sort of "life counseling" (very vague, I know). It seems that a lot of the lines by which wisdom is traditionally passed down from generation to generation were severed by slavery and its after-effects. It's a deficit in effective skills, habits and mindsets that is the underlying problem (and racism, of course, but that can't be eradicated through reparations and is much harder for government to directly address). It kind of goes back to that saying, which I hopefully won't mangle: "Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime." - sorry ladies. :) | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 2:55:56 PM | but w[h]ere is your sense of justice
Presumably, "reparations" would be paid with Federal monies collected from taxpayers as a whole. Where is the justice in charging the tens of millions of citizens whose ancestors had nothing to do with the slave trade, or whose ancestors didn't even live in the US while slavery was extant? Are we to legislate some sort of National Conscience, and then selectively apply it to the past?
Few, if any, can claim that their ancestors didn't suffer indignities at some point in history. Granted, slavery is a black mark (pardon the pun) on American history. But while reparations might benefit the few, the rancor surrounding the vetting process and determination of benefits would serve only to keep racial wounds festering.
Today, prejudice and intolerance may make life more difficult for many individuals, but handing out money won't solve these problems. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 4:24:26 PM | | Great point I don't feel that reparations are the main solution in fact that won't change peoples mind set that was just an extra. I just wanted to stimmulate conversation. The main point was a question a friend posed which was imagin a world without the philosophy of white supremacy. A lot of the psychological problems that this country and the world are dealing with is a direct reason of this philosophy. African people are considered in Christianity as the cursed seed of Ham why? Imagin America if African-Americans could of contributed to the uplift of this country from day one. Also look at the education of the masses in this country calling the Indiginous people savages and then outright taking their land and most of the people of this country being ok with that. We need dialogue between different people so we can all heal. Today this philosophy has and is enabling Europe to colonize the entire world which is a serious issue. I am not antwhite but I do oppose the philosophy that some people are superior to others because they are the master race and I feel all people should be against this and put theirselves in the other shoes. This has an effect on poor Euopeans too as they sit quietly thinking that they are ok because they belong to the master race and some of them are in a worst situtation than people all over the world when you compare the resources that this country controls. If people don't act then they tend to react which makes for disorder in most cases. This topic might not seem appropriate because this is a dating site but if we statr solving those big problems then getting together as human beings will become alot easier. When we get together that for most people becomes a big problem as we have very different cultures even living in the same society's. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 5:14:38 PM | | It is sad that the people who read this can only think of reparations if you read my reply to the other gentleman you would see that i'm not focusing on something as simple as reparations but if you understood slavery was the backbone in building this powerful nation. Everyone that comes here benefits from that slave/ trade and everyone that came here also helped with the genocide of the Indiginous people and the taking of their land. I am trying to appeal to critical thinkers, you need to think outside of the box once again think about if it was you and your poeple and your reply would be totally different. America and Europe will never reach their full potenial because of their subjagation of other human beings. Anyone who excepts right makes right will never be able to liberate our oppressed women and children because they have the power over them. There is a famous quote that says "injustice anywhere is a threat justice everywhere". Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 5:15:44 PM | I don't think this topic is inappropriate on a dating site. There are a lot of non-dating-related sections here, so the intention of those in charge is definitely not to limit the discourse to dating-related topics. My comment was just meant to say it'd make more sense for this to be in the politics forum here at POF. Admittedly, though, almost anything can be fit under the term "philosophy".
And I agree that an open and rational dialog is needed regarding racism is needed, but I think it needs to be expanded to a more general conversation where humanity's baser instincts are honestly addressed. I think any large self-identified group of humans that gets into a position where they have the upper hand relative to other groups has a tendency to abuse that position. Sometimes the division is delineated along racial lines, sometimes religious, sometimes geographic, etc. I don't claim to have the solution to it all, but I think it's important to recognize this tendency at the beginning if there's to be hope of getting very far with this. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 5:20:18 PM | Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is in an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob, and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.
Frederick Douglass, Speech, April 1886 | |
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| Imagin a world without white supremacy
Posted: 11/1/2007 5:20:59 PM |
what if it was your ancestors I'm pretty sure your opinion would be different if you are honest.
I commend you for having the bravery to address this issue in an intelligent manner and I totally agree that dialog is the answer to the problem. I will disagree with some of your specific points, however.
My ancestors were Native American and yes, they were oppressed even more than the Blacks in the States. My answer to the reparations questions is "no." As another said, monetary handouts are no solution and the bit about the "teach a man to fish" is one of my personal favorite 'arguments' in debates on the subject of reparations specifically.
I will go further and say that the solution to racial harmony is better sought by looking at the positives. To pose the scenario of "what if" it was "the other way round" is not exactly helpful. Obviously given human nature it is possible the exact same thing might have happened but with the skin of the participants being just different. It happened the way it did only because there were unsophisticated people in Africa and other places who were dumb or greedy enough to believe they were being led to a better life or they were just too unawares that they were being enslaved. It happened that way rather than the other because most Caucasian peoples were more savvy and could not be so easily enslaved in great numbers even though many were.
It may sting a bit, but Blacks in the States (not in the world as a whole) are descended from that gene pool of people who (for whatever reason) were enslaved and had no idea or were not brave enough to jump overboard - some did, you know? It is that (in my opinion) that accounts for most of the literal ignorance as opposed to oppression by the White race.
It is almost like the kids on a play ground and the bully and his pals are able to intimidate some of the more passive kids. Later on in life, those passive kids might be the losers in business as example because they just don't grasp the idea of winning like the children of the bullies do. That is an extreme example but I think you can see what I am getting at. It isn't racial supremacy it is cultural supremacy. One might very well go to the middle of the South American rain forest and find such people there today who could be enslaved because they might be more interested in riding in a helicopter than be thinking they might not ever be returned to their hut??
My view is that since (I understand) it was not always just Blacks who were enslaved in the world and it was not totally the doing of White peoples, the point is rather moot. To even continue discussing it seriously at this point in time is rather useless. It amounts to discussing whether the Confederacy should rise again. It is all 150 years in the past except for the few who want to keep bringing it up.
My experience has been that there is presently more racial hatred coming from Blacks against whites than the other way around. In essence what I am saying is that equality has been achieved and neither faction is oppressed at this point in history. There is and will always be some individuals and groups who continue in the same ways but to judge an entire race and continue to blame them for the actions of a few today is just perpetuating hatred.
Your thread title itself is a misnomer. There is and never was a "White Supremacy" in total for the White race. There were and still are people who believe that but the idea that all white people felt supreme is not true. I will even say that it appears that many Blacks (not all by any stretch of the imagination) today seem to feel that equality is not enough and that only "Black supremacy" will make up for the years of slavery and discrimination. How could anyone want that when history has already shown it cause tremendous problems to the point of once nearly dividing the US into two countries?
So I have to say what is your point? Are you inagining that White supremacy still exist on a wide scale or are you really asking us to imagine "Black Supremacy?" | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 5:23:55 PM | I'm pretty sure I'd feel the same way about it all... I'm sure I'd have to live with the insults of backwards people who aren't up to date, but I don't think I'd lump the majority of people today with the people of yesteryear.
This wasn't limited to black folks either, eh... I'm of irish decent and I hold no malice against the decendants of those who had irish slaves. | |
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Posted: 11/1/2007 5:39:50 PM | | I don't think it was a matter of African people being dumb or mentally unsophisticated. I think they just didn't have the "gadgets" to win the battles. Europeans had the guns and the technology that allowed them to be the exploiters. Getting to the "why" is difficult because the factors that determine the relative rates of technological and infrastructural progression of societies are numerous and hard to identify. It could be that climate, geography, presence or lack of diseases, presence or lack of resources, or any number of other things led to the rise of the Europeans during that time period. | |
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| Imagin a world without white supremacy
Posted: 11/1/2007 6:09:43 PM | If I remember correctly, many slaves were sold to the slave traders by other Africans, as well as Arabs and Europeans.
Africa was a paradise. It had plenty of and a wide variety of food, readily available. These people were not poor by any standards. They lived in abundance. They had no need to invent guns. The weapons and tools they had served their purposes quite well.
Europeans had famine and overpopulation, as well as political oppression to move the creation of superior weapons. The Africans had no need until the Europeans showed up.
I am not sure if wearing hair extensions is an example of trying to make oneself 'white' or not. I think it is merely fashion. I think it's interesting that a fashion statement can have an underlying racial statement. I know it used to have. But I don't believe it is that way any longer.
Don't use Micheal Jackson as an example. His example is skewing your point. The man has a lot of emotional problems. He is not an good example of a black or white man. He only serves as an example of what social isolation, a lot of money, a couple emotional problems and living in the world of 'Hollywood' (a culture devoid of character, kindness and focussed solely on appearance) will do to a person.
I do know racism (and most 'isms') has it's base in superiority and exclusion. Each group wants to exclude another to prove their superiority. Of course, it doesn't. Anyone with any insight can see that. It's just that many choose not to see.
I haven't figured out why people would choose blindness over sight, but such is the world.
Maybe it's because if you know something you have to act. It's easier to deny something exists. Hmmm. Maybe laziness is the reason... Except the denials take up much more energy than just doing something about it in the first place.
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| Imagin a world without white supremacy
Posted: 11/1/2007 11:30:15 PM | @ the OP
...by reading your posts what you seem to wanna do is just basically substitute(mentally) one form of supremacy over another......just to see how it would be......but the answer is simple; you would have had a reversal of rolls with the same negative outcomes!
much of what you refer to has more to do with cultural supremacy than with racial supremacy nowadays........it is natural for diverse cultures to adopt or borrow from a different culture that they come in contact with.....whether its food, clothing styles, hair do's etc.
this isn't to say that there is no racism......but unlike it used to be.....a racist today can only have as much power as his own racial group chooses to give to him/her......regardless of race!..........and this is because a racist does not have protection under the laws that govern, and can only get protection from sympathizers of his/her own race..........and this is exactly why racism can only breed more racism!
as far as enslavement is concerned.......not that i would justify it, but slavery (is)was an ancient institution in the social fabric of mankind and every race has practiced it and every race has been victimized by it.......in the USA, the practice of it that has become an unsavory part of american legacy........but in reality, there is little differences between the way 1 racial group has held slaves versus the way another group has........the motive for having slaves was always for economic reasons.......europeans didn't go into Africa to get slaves because of the skin color of these Africans.............they went there because of the ease of this transaction.......the dominant African cultures who enslaved their competitors, in turn gladly "sold" them to the europeans for valuable goods that they would not otherwise have......................therefore, it made far more sense for the dominant African cultures to retain their captives rather than to exterminate them (as they had been doing prior to the trans-atlantic slave trade)........in essence it became a business transaction in which the dominant Africans of that time cannot "wash their hands" of!
..the unfortunate result of slavery here in the US (and many other cultures) is the remnance of the 'racial' inferiority complex (in some is obvious and in other cases it exists in the subconscious).........which in many ways has a been an enormous weight that has hampered many African-americans from acheiving their full potential..........such a complex often prevents persons from effectively dealing with many of life's adversities (including racism) which either prevents or limits the rate of social advancement. | |
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Posted: 11/2/2007 10:32:33 PM | | My mother unfortunately is a bigot. I'm ashamed for her because of her ignorance about herself and her lack of recognition of diversity that the educated and loved mind has. It just so happens that this story is on my profile: A monkey narrowly escaped a ferocious attack from a tiger, but lost his tail in the altercation. The monkey could no longer climb and balance as he once did; he felt bad about himself for being different. After some time he seemed to have a solution...he would cut the tails from all the other monkeys. Whenever I can get another person to look within them self to see how they are compensating with their behavior from a displaced healthy sense of self, I know that by this one person I may be affecting an entire world through possible multiplication. Understanding feels good. When a man sees the light of understanding he will share it in some way at some time. | |
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| Imagin a world without white supremacy
Posted: 11/3/2007 8:49:10 AM | I am Black and would rather have racial tolerance than reparations.
I don't believe in white supremacy in that Whites, as a race of people, are superior to anyone. What I believe is that for that time White had access to the tools of dominance and the personality type to use them for their own benefit. What this means to me is that any group of of people can be "supreme" if they have the right weapons and have no problem about killing, raping, mutilating, or using any other method of human degradation to achieve the upper hand. In other words,"he who has the power and the will to dominate, will."
"It may sting a bit, but Blacks in the States (not in the world as a whole) are descended from that gene pool of people who (for whatever reason) were enslaved and had no idea or were not brave enough to jump overboard - some did, you know? It is that (in my opinion) that accounts for most of the literal ignorance as opposed to oppression by the White race." In some ways, I agree with that statement. I don't agree that ignorance is "in the genes", but I do agree that Blacks need to stop blaming their positions in life on Whites. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2007 10:31:26 AM |
African people are considered in Christianity as the cursed seed of Ham why?
I just wanted to let you know that not all Christians think this way. The only Christians who consider African Americans to be the "cursed seed of Ham" are Bible thumping racists. No where in Gods word does it even suggest such a thing. God created all the races on the 6th day and said that it was good. It was Noah who cursed Hams son not God. Again, God created all the races and said it was good.  | |
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Posted: 11/4/2007 9:03:38 AM | Looking at history can be an intersting past-time.
after theCivil War in the States, blacks were offered repatriation to Africa, along with a cash bonus. Soem took it, but many refused it. Some because they were born here...others because they knew that Africa was, always has been and will be in the foreseeable future, a hard and harsh place to live. Constant wars, tribal differences, etc, etc, has made its make throughout the continent. So, the ancestors made their decision, and the future generations have to live with that...if they do have a problem with it, then they too can leave for their "ancestral home", if they wish.
Let's get it into perspective here.
Racial harmony is not a thng that is easy to gain....the idea of racial and cultural differences is practiced the world over. Japan had that idea half a century ago, as did Nazi Germany. Look what happened.
Some countries attempt to smooth things over, either by the "melting pot", everyone following a single way of life and laws with little divergence, or by attemting to make a cultural and racial "mosaic", such as in Canada, by making special exemptions and interpretations of the laws for cultural differences.
By treating ALL peoples the same, it makes it far easier for all to get along. Jealousy and rivalry rears itself when some get "special treatment" because of race, religion, or colour. This brings about stife, and then the gov't wonders why people are "so against" each other. "Duh!"
If whites had of been "enslaved" way back when (and it did happen, though the distances involved were far less than the long journey to America) what would have been the results? Hard to say. Probably far less technological advances. Europeans made most of them. But, we'd have to go further back in time to start making adjustments in order for the blacks to even have the wherewithall to do so. The burning on libraries and such would have had to of been halted back in ALexanders time and Roman times. Perhaps if that had not happened, and a few peacemakers had been ruling, then the technological advances would have been made by blacks. That would have put them into a position of power, such as the Europeans had.
Would I want reparations? Hey...free money...who wouldn't want that? YOu'd be a fool to turn it down, and if you made it sound "politically correct" you could play on the social concious of theother group and instill a sense of shame on them. Gaining free money or nothing that has to do with today? Hey.....makes sense to me. As far as "justice" is concerned...we have laws in place that already fix that. You can't be paid less for the same job because of colour, sex, or culture. you are entitled to the same rights. You are under the same laws as anyone else, and how you exercise your rights are only limited by what you are able or willing to invest in them.
Some people think the slave trade is a long dead thing....not true. there are more lsave (or those held in such conditions) today than there ever has been in the history of mankind. Many refuse to acknowledge this idea. Many are for the sex trade, some for cheap labour in "sweat shops", etc. This is commonplace throughout the world.
My opinion is...no reparations. The so-called "First NAtions" enjoy a far better and easier life than if the Europeans had not brought their way of life here. therefore they too can follow along with everyone else. Setting aside a "reservation" for them because of "politically correct" reasons is fine. Set it aside....give them some handouts and allow them to live the way heir ancestors lived. Poverty on a reserve? Tough. Move off and get in step with the rest of society. Many of us come form small towns that offer the young people little, and give them a poorer quality education than can be gained form schools in the city. So, go to the city and make your way, the same as others. Otherwise, sit on the reservation and take the handouts. The young people will be making their final decsions with their lives...not the elders. When the population on reserves declines, then it is a self-correcting system. Thre is no "intolerance" here...no "lack of justice"...just leaving those people who want to live "traditionally" alone, with some of the convieniences of modern living. But, not giving in to demands of having ALL those convieniences handed over free of charge.
I've said it before, I'll say it again, and again...with equality comes equal responsibility. This fits with differences in culture, sex, or race. Responsibility towards society as a whole, and to your neighbours and family. Otherwise, we are just trying to fool ouselves, with little success at that! | |
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Posted: 11/4/2007 9:08:46 AM | | A lot of the American economy (this is going to sound so bad) was boosted by slavery, tobacco, cotton, big industires that hit a new level...no I dont support slavery, but African Americans played a HUGE part in that. As far as current day without white supremecy...I say leave it the way it is, may not be perfect, but it could be a lot worse. As far a reperations..black, white, hispanic, asian..no one deserves reperations on what did not happen to them. It ticks me off big time when I hear people wanting reperations, because once again I was not a slave owner, and most peoples great grandparents wernt even slaves or slave owners..yeah it sucked it happend, get over it..if you cant find something in the last 200 years to b*tch about, then theres a problem | |
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| Imagin a world without white supremacy
Posted: 11/4/2007 3:03:07 PM | oldschoolamir:
Image if the roles were reversed and Black Supremacy was the order of the day and Europeans were enslaved, I know it is very difficult to imagin and that is why I posed this question. Try to put yourself in another persons shoes and ask yourselves what would you do and how would you feel. Would you say that Whites who were victims of the slave trade deserve some form of reparations. Today if you were to ask most whites they would say we had nothing to do with the slave trade which is true but were is your sense of justice, what if it was your ancestors I'm pretty sure your opinion would be different if you are honest.
Honestly, my opinions wouldn't have changed. I grew up in California in an area where it didn't matter if you were black, white, green or purple. Part of my family was from Germany (my grandmother was full blooded German) and some of them even escaped during the time of Hitler (her parents). Do I ask for "reparations" for what happened to my ancestors? NO. I had family members that were on both sides of that war.
The point is that what your parents, grandparents, or great-grandparents suffered did not happen to you. I have one family member that said one time that the black servant they had when this was happening didn't want to leave, that she was basically a member of the family. Not all black slaves were but through brutal tortures and lived the life portrayed by Roots.
Do I agree with slavery? No. Do I think we should pay money to people for something that their ancestors experienced? No. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2007 7:25:31 PM | Like this topic what I am about to type may be controvercial...but i mean no disrespect by it.
Regaurdless which race is in the majority the minority will always feel less than equal. Yes slavery was a terrible thing, but its in the past. I don't want to sound like we should forget about it...we should not do that! But there has to be a better way to deal with it than we are.
We are trying to reach racial equality and for the most part have. There is no doubt in that. However there are some things that are viewed as racially unequil by most people in this predominatly white, rural area.
The largest is the all black churches. I may be wrong on this but here its common belief that there are churches dedicated souly for african americans. If that is so is that not racial inequality? Today, if a white person tried to establish a church for white people only there would be so many race charges and allegations agenst that person its not funny.
I hope that last paragraph dosent make me look like a bigot...I am not. And if I am incorrect about the african american only churches please let me know. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2007 7:33:25 PM |
I have to say that I agree with that 100%. Equality has to go both ways. It seems that a lot of people are pushing for the opposite effect. They seem to want to suppress the rights of the majority in order for the minority to come out "on top". I know it's kinda off topic, but I had to put my two cents worth in on that point. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2007 8:00:38 PM |
Micheal Jackson bleached himself white
I thought MJ has a skin condition.
Image if the roles were reversed and Black Supremacy was the order of the day and Europeans were enslaved, I know it is very difficult to imagin and that is why I posed this question.
Check your history, when Europe wasn't enslaving Africans they were enslaving themselves. Heck, if you were not a Roman citizen, and you got captured, you were a slave. It didn't matter where you came from.
As far as Europeans being exclusive in the slave trade that is a misconception. Native American's did it, the Chinese Empire did it, India did it, even the ancient Egyptians did it. Heck most of the slaves that came to the Western hemisphere were sold into slavery by other African tribes. Many African tribes owned slaves. This isn't justification for slavery, just pointing out that Europeans were not the only ones who practiced this.
Would you say that Whites who were victims of the slave trade deserve some form of reparations. and...Today if you were to ask most whites they would say we had nothing to do with the slave trade which is true but were is your sense of justice
Hmm, let me look at this from my point of view. My Polish ancestors were serfs living in Poland when that 1/2 came to America in the early 1900's. Serfs and peasants were treated as slaves so I wouldn't expect that have to pay for "reparations". The other half of my blood is Hispanic, 1/4 Apache and 1/4 Californian-Mexican. That side traces back to California back before America took it over from Mexico. I wouldn't expect that side to pay for "reparations" either.
While many blacks were taken out of their country and turned into slaves, my ancestors lost their entire country. If anyone is going to be receiving reparations stand in line with everyone who has been exploited.
what if it was your ancestors I'm pretty sure your opinion would be different if you are honest.
It was my ancestors who were raped, enslaved and had their lands taken away, but there is nothing i can do about it, expect to make sure it doesn't happen again. | |
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Posted: 11/5/2007 1:00:25 AM | I disagree that slavery is in the past. Its changed its face to be more appealing but is alive and well the world over. Most civilizations greatest acheivments were built on the backs of the poor by those with power directing.
Slavery today is simply called minimum wage. It changed focus from race to class. When you apply for a full time position at wal-mart you get paperwork for government assitance, because even working full time you are below the federal poverty lines. I am in know way trying to say that there is equality in the US. White males still hold most of the money/power/corp officer/government positions.
In a world in which the powerful hadn't imposed its will on the disenfranchised we would have no pyramids, no hoover dam, no great wall of china, no highway system, rail system, industrial revolution, etc. Or at least if they had been developed it would have taken far longer. I feel they are terrible things for society, but war and slavery have been great for technology.
While the ends don't justify the means, you have to admit there are some very impressive ends that have been acheived. I would be suprised if any of the 7 wonders of the ancient world weren't built by slavery. | |
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Posted: 11/5/2007 1:03:40 AM | | Every race and culture has been held down under slavery in the history of this planet. Slavery was going on in Africa among competing black tribes well before the white man moved in.Why do blacks think that they are the only race who has suffered? There are racists that exist in every culture. Yes, even in the black race there are racists. I think in this day and age it is time to stop blaming each other for things in the past and look ahead to the future. Reparation is a bad idea. It will only cause more resentment. | |
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Posted: 11/5/2007 2:30:03 AM | | I remember my father would always say that white people were trying to be black and black people were trying to be white.He said my multiple ear piercings was my way of trying to be black. I couldnt get him to comprehend that white women did it too. | |
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