| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/19/2007 9:52:07 PM | | Contrary to what society wants us to believe, I believe that women love sex way more than men do. And who can blame them, we can make women orgasm much much harder than they can make us. Why is it a stereotype that men dine and wine women to get sex/affection? When I see fellow men fool themselves as being a nice guy while overly trying too hard to impress women, it puts a cute frown on my face. I want to see every guy start demanding more from women cuz you deserve it. Ask for flowers and foot rubs. Or, errr... video games... | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/19/2007 10:58:35 PM | | Way to miss the point. Good job! And why would men have to chose between valueing themselves more and having sex? You can have both. It's okay, you'll learn. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/19/2007 11:00:27 PM | Sorry, if ive missed the point....i must have more to learn than i thought ...??
How bout if i say i think we ALL enjoy sex equally....... | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/19/2007 11:10:27 PM | | Women definitely love sex more than men do. At least, that's the way women act that I've seen. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/19/2007 11:20:17 PM | I think the reasons women seem in society to not enjoy sex are a combination of the following...
1. Since sex means more to them, they need to hide this since it makes them more vulnerable.
2. It's a good way to weed out men who is afraid to take charge, or have them do things to try to get what the think they can't have.
3. The feminist movement... It's supposed to liberate women but seems to retard their expression of sexual enjoyment.
4. Society wants women to think sex is wrong to keep them from cheating on their husbands. | |
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svj
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Joined: 9/15/2007
Msg: 9 | |
| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/19/2007 11:36:02 PM | Part of what gives women power over men is the perception that women don't enjoy sex as much as men. Regardless of the reality, either way.
I don't think women really want that power, though... not many women are attracted to guys they have total control over.
Perhaps defeating that stereotype would go a long way to creating more attractive men to go around. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/19/2007 11:40:02 PM |
You think guys would prefer flowers over sex.......?????
Eeeer,i dont think so ?!
Do you think girls would contemplate bringing a gift of any sort on a date? Eeeer, i dont think so ?! | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/19/2007 11:55:09 PM | Actually girls do alot of things for men that pleasure them.
But society looks at it like, "Arrrgggh, that is wrong!!! The man is supposed to pay for the woman and stuff!!! Arghggh!!!" | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/20/2007 12:05:00 AM | | It's been a long ass time since I paid a womans way. I will if she just doesn't have all that much, but hell, if the girl I was with had a job, she'd be paying her own way. | |
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svj
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Joined: 9/15/2007
Msg: 14 | |
| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/20/2007 12:08:24 AM | Plus... I personally believe sex is more enjoyable for a woman anyways.
A guy generally has to go a long way out of his way to have sex with a woman he doesn't have a relationship with. He risks the rejection, he plans the date, he has to make her smile, he has to demonstrate high value, he has to project confidence and stability.
Most guys don't do this naturally. Which means they have to either face tons and tons of rejection, or fundamentally change their psychological and/or physical and/or lifestyle makeup. This is NOT easy.
That is a hell of a lot of work for a few minutes of pleasure.
Oh... and even if it all works out... he's gotta do it while essentially wearing a garbage bag over his "joy department".
Personally, in the days where I slept around... it was (and still is, to some extent) more about the verification that yes, I could be that damn fun and attractive that I could make the woman I was with forget all that social conditioning she was indoctrinated with, and start ripping my clothes off. The more attractive she was, the more attractive I must have been by proxy. The fewer partners she's had (relative to her age, of course)... the more intense that social conditioning must have been, and the more attractive I must have been for her to overcome that.
The actual sex was secondary. I could take it or leave it. But that's probably where a lot of my power in those kind of situations came from. The less a guy cares about sex... the easier it is to come by. The less time you spend thinking about BS ways to impress her on a date... the more time you can simply enjoy your time with each other, which is a large part of what attracts her to you in the first place.
That's where the "nice guy" gets lost. He gets obsessed with the end result. He gets so worried with trying to impress his date, to prove himself "worthy of sex", that he doesn't notice that he's putting on this totally fake personna... and probably not being much fun or very attractive as a result. He's too busy trying to be the man he thinks she wants him to be to get lost in the moment and actually enjoy himself.
Kind of hard for a "nice guy" to enjoy sex when he's doing all that shit.
The way I see it, a woman's responsibility as "the pursued" is basically to learn how to maximize her attractiveness and to say "yes" or "no". To determine if he is worth sleeping with.
If he sees her as attractive, that's pretty much all he cares about, as far a sex is concerned. She doesn't need to be funny, smart, or anything else like that. If he's out with her, (and he knew what she looked like beforehand), he's basically stated that he finds her attractive enough to "do", so it's basically up to her after that.
Relationships are a different matter, of course. But we're talking about sex. And no guy ever wanted a relationship with a woman he didn't think was attractive enough to have sex with. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/20/2007 5:25:51 AM |
That is a hell of a lot of work for a few minutes of pleasure.
Oh... and even if it all works out... he's gotta do it while essentially wearing a garbage bag over his "joy department".
gee that really puts things into perspective doesn't it  . Gotta make you wonder why bother at all really 
But you're right about the caring of sex; some people allow something such as this to dictate their life/behaviour & try to hard to be something/someone they're not. | |
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ndulj
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Joined: 5/27/2007
Msg: 16 | |
| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/20/2007 7:11:58 AM | I find this whole thread a bit confusing.
Of course most women love sex, that is the ones that allow themselves to enjoy it.
Problem is that society has tried very hard to train women from a young age that sex is a tool to be used for gain. Woman are taught that they have something that men want and that a good girl will use it to get what she wants.
This is a terribly unenlightened point of view left over as a relic of our Puritanical heritage. Sex is a joyous wonderful thing meant to be shared. More women need to shake off the mores and taboos of the past and fully embrace their own sexuality for what it is.
That doesn't mean being a slut for the sake of being a slut, nor does it mean dressing your 3 year old like a prosti-tot. It means not being afraid to enjoy the experience. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/20/2007 7:30:08 AM | For centuries, women were considered insatiable sexual creatures, seducing men and robbing them of their potency. If you read such tomes as The Malleus Maleficarum (The Hammer of Witches), it delineates the carnality of women, and witches, in particular. During the Renaissance (and before) it was considered necessary for a woman to orgasm in order to get pregnant--and sex was for procreation--so it was a husband's duty to make sure that she did.
It wasn't until the discovery that the ovaries released eggs that women started being told that we don't like sex. It reached the apex during the Victorian era when women were not allowed to be sexual, or nice women weren't; there were loads of whorehouses in London, more than at any other time in history. Women's public sexuality didn't have a resurgence until the 1960s and the advent of the Pill.
Strangely, it was men who said women were sexual to the point of being predators. It was men who subsequently said women didn't like sex. It was women who started taking back their sexuality.
Sex was thought to drain men, make them weak. The French call the act the "petit morte," the "little death," but that was applied to men, not women. Even masturbation was thought to weaken men.
So, yah, women like sex a lot, or maybe I should only speak for myself. I doubt, though, that a man could get away with demanding more from women.
There are vibrators. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/20/2007 8:00:52 AM | | Isn't the reason why men wine and dine women because men enjoy it? I know I have. If you are romancing women as a chore to get laid, you are missing out on the fun. Sex is over in what, two minutes, and so there better be something more to being together than the act itself. Besides, none of the women I have had sex with enjoyed it all that much, so I kind of doubt they loved it more than I did. | |
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ndulj
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Joined: 5/27/2007
Msg: 20 | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/20/2007 8:59:36 AM | It's been a long ass time since I paid a womans way. I will if she just doesn't have all that much, but hell, if the girl I was with had a job, she'd be paying her own way.
HUH?? You're only 20. Adults don't go dutch, if they do, it's not a date. I'm not saying men have to pay all the time, I pay half the time, but I dont' want him to "kick in a couple a bucks". That's just gauche. | |
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svj
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Joined: 9/15/2007
Msg: 23 | |
| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/20/2007 9:02:36 AM | Of course most women love sex, that is the ones that allow themselves to enjoy it. Problem is that society has tried very hard to train women from a young age that sex is a tool to be used for gain. Woman are taught that they have something that men want and that a good girl will use it to get what she wants.
Touche. Point taken.
So basically, we're at the same point as pretty much everything else in life.
It depends on the individual... and what attitudes they and their partner have about sex before they even get started.
And if it lasts more than a couple of minutes. LOL
Although this much is absolutely certain.
Sex is a lot more enjoyable all around when everyone just lightens the **** up.  | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/20/2007 9:02:47 AM | OP.. cry a river. Show me a man who never wanted sex,,,,,,,,if it only lasts two minutes it's usually or should I say( always) the man..
It's true most women love sex,,, especial when it's few and far betwen and not just lying there waiting for you to help your self,
The older one gets the better and neadier one gets.............
I'll give my man a foot rub any day and usually their not too much into flowers.. | |
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yabba
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Joined: 10/2/2007
Msg: 25 | |
| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do
Posted: 11/20/2007 9:25:50 AM | I like your thoughts....Gwendollyn.....for me I believe it is a power issue......as a male..we are taught to be the leaders and in nature we are...so be it...but women hold a very strong power over us as men so how can we be leaders when we are controlled by our own emotion for women.... I believe males try to minimize that power by putting down female sexuality.....such as the victorian ages......married women the good ones were not suppose to enjoy sex and therefore no power over the man....as for the whorehouses....well when women give it up for money there is no challenge no risk no rejection therefore no power..... looka t these beutiful women who exude sexuality....they will tellyou that guys are afraid toapproach them...most guys would be afraid to be rejected and therefore hurting their power...whichis why guys like sluts over nice girls.....no power no control......
But what do I know...Im a man and i love sex for almost any reason...but only with a select few.
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