| | What Bush has achieved since 9/11Page 1 of 14 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14) | Bush has achieved factually polarizing his own nation with his dictatorial speech of “Either you're with us or against us!”
Bush has scores of nation’s fed-up with his constant saber-rattling.
Bush can be no means trusted.
Bush cannot spell nor does he differentiate his geography, “Africa is a country.”
Bush is minimally a talking head.
Bush is the leading threat to peace.
Bush is an oxy-moron…or, is that moron? | |
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| What Bush has achieved since 9/11
Posted: 5/30/2005 8:31:58 AM | Bush has achieved disgracing us by having Colin Powell openly LIE in front of the UN
Bush has stolen money from social security and paid the money out to defense corporations for a missile system that doesn't work and tax cuts which are not tax cuts in an attempt to bankrupt the system.
Bush has emersed us in a war that we may never be able to win.
Bush has the US identified by the world as a military aggressor that needs to be controlled.
Bush has committed war crimes by holding hostages at Guantanamo without trial.
Bush has schemed to torture prisoners and recently appointed the architect of that plan as his attorney general.
Bush has put the US deeper into debt and purposely slowed down the economy with his tax cuts by giving the richest investors money to buy up all the smaller companies competing against the larger ones.
Bush has been a major provacateur of the very class warfare he accuses democrats of by cutting government funding to veterans, attempting to cut combat pay for now deployed soldiers in combat zones.
Bush is ruining the military by recklessly using them for no other reason than to get in a war so he'd have more political juice to push his agenda here at home. Enlistments are down 42% and are mostly only reinlistments by soldiers who know they'd be "stop lossed" and lose the bonus if they didn't reinlist anyway.
Bush has made the American media as unreliable as pravda was during the days of the USSR.
Bush is a nut job. He's a child who was born on third base and hates anyone who criticizes him or his class for indulgence, corruption or excess. He sees people with less money as people who should be abused and exploited.
He DOES deserve credit for everything that's gone wrong since he's been president, because he's MADE SURE he had a major hand in it. If you think otherwise, you're only fooling yourself. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 9:33:06 AM | Sadam supported Hamas, not Al Qaeda. We attacked the only quasi secular nation in the entire region and that is going to bring democracy there how? Iraq is/was if nothing else an incredibly misplaced prioirty. why doewsn't it bother any of you that the President openly advocated Regime Change in Iraq over 4 years ago? You all say the media is liberally biased. Who owns most of the media in this country? Could I dare to say, consevative interests? Here much about last years exit polling in your press? Here much more from the one person that thinks they remeber Bush serving in Alabama?
So now in five years instead of working on the DEBT our deficit might be cut in half to a quarter trillion dollars? Yeah, that's fiscal conservatism folks. 
Bush has done little more for us than make us scared and saddle our children with more and more debt. He's insulted the international community and made America the most hated nation in the world AGAIN. Myopic leaders rarely fare well in tomorrow's history books.  | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 10:22:04 AM | | ^^Not true. The Soviets payed for WW ll in blood. We rebuilt Europe. When were hated for doing good things. George Bush is the most protested individual in human history. He had to reschedule/reorganize a European trip when 15 million people took to the streets. Where was the liberal bias of the press then? | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 10:52:24 AM | | Oh bush has done quite alot when you think about it. Went to afganistan to get osama. began another war on iraq. Do you hear much on the news about the afgan people now? No. You hear the majority on the death toll and the debt that his war is causing not on one but two ends. America and iraq. They still have found no trace of osama himself yet they got sadam didn't they. I think he went to iraq to finish daddy's war for him and afganistan gave him the perfect reason to go more heavily into that part of the world, thats exactly what he wanted. Clinton may have got some uhh..pleasures from his intern but he would have handled the situation much better I think. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 10:57:33 AM | "Saddam was supporting terrorism and that is a fact."
A fact which has been disproven. Fact is the usa trained and supported more terrorists then any other nation. And still does. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 11:14:12 AM | | Oh yeah. I keep waiting to hear the sh*ts hit the fan over it all. It would really suck cause we are joined at the hip with the states and if they get sick so do we. Not in the sense that we are not involved or anything but every mistake made in the states reflects on us weather we like it or not and we get taken down on blame charts too with terrorists. With either flag on my shoulder over there I would be terrified because either one spells target. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 11:20:56 AM | | Oh and to ^^guy above us bush predicted nothing. He knew damn well what he was up too. Yes sadam did many horrible acts of torment and deserves whatever he gets but that was not the main start of it it was supposed to be afganistan and ended up all about iraq. It was the opertune moment for bush to pretty much do what he wanted to with less flack he used terrorism as a blanket to comfort us. Like look we are going to get osama and al-quida and abolish terrorism, while supporting it behind two countries backs and putting the countries into debt so I can carry out my political vandeta. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 11:22:49 AM | | For all that it is good we were woke up to terrorism but its an excuse for them to get away with stuff. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 11:24:10 AM | Cleo- you couldn't be more wrong. Canada is on of the most respected countries in the world, even the muslims respect us. Canada is not a target. In fact the only country to ever have hostile intent towards Canada has been the states.
What acts the usa committs doesn;t reflect at all on Canada, not one bit.
I still laugh when I hear of the americans who sew Canadian flags on thier backpacks when the travel the world. No why? Because Canadians are loved and respected and americans are treated like dogs. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 11:28:58 AM |
A fact which has been disproven. Fact is the usa trained and supported more terrorists then any other nation. And still does.
You're kidding right? You mean we are training terrorist to blow up our buildings.
Best thing to do is to pray for peace (Christains). And for all you non-religious........well do whatever it is you do in time of need. Keep protesting and complaining. The sooner the end the sooner all countires that stand to profit from the clean up will be happy right? | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 11:34:33 AM | In the 80's the US gives loans, intelligence, biological weapon seed material, and other support to Saddam in Iraq. We made excuses when he gassed his own people and blamed Iran. The Bush Sr. administration killed legislation that would have scrutinized his human rights record and embargoed Saddam in the 80's. In exchange, he offered Saddam new tax-payer guaranteed loans. Now American soldiers are dying on a daily basis cleaning up that mess.
In the early 80's the US gave aid and ammo to al Qaeda even though we knew they were no friend to the west. Now American soldiers are dying cleaning up that mess. The Afghans are staging anti-American protests, their president is complaining about American torture and murder in prisons, and poppy production is back in full swing.
In the 50's Iran had it's first democracy. It was pro-America. Our response was to plan and enact a coup that toppled their first president and we returned the dictator, Shah Pahlavi to power for 25 years. His brutal dictatorship spawned the radical islamic revolution. How many American GIs is it going to take to undo that mess?
America's ally in this venture is Turkey who has a dismal human rights record. They have more UN resolutions against them than Iraq. They also have murdered en masse the kurds in Turkey the same way that Saddam did in Iraq. However, despite the mass murder we continue to feed Turkey dollars the same way we did with Saddam.
Another American ally in this campaign is Pakistan who is headed by a military dictator, (i thought we were spreading democracy?), A military dictator who's regime has a record of human rights abuses, most recently, the torture of 2 American citizens with CIA knowledge and complicity.
Another American ally, Egypt who's dismal human rights record spawned a militant ayman al-zawahiri, Osama's right hand man. Despite Egypt's long time record of human rights abuses, they continue to receive America's second largest foreign aid package behind Israel.
I can't believe that in this day and age there are still people who buy this crap about exporting freedom, democracy, and human rights.
On memorial day, we should recognize that our GIs are too precious to waste cleaning up all of our political machinations which have gained us nothing but global contempt and hatred. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 11:35:36 AM | For good or ill, George Bush has scared Americas enemies and rivals(and its friends) sh1tless. You have to give him credit for that. Iran, Syria, China, North Korea have all stood up and taken not of how brutally the Bush Administrartion is capable of acting in accomplishing it's foreign policy goals, and they are not looking to be the next testing ground for weapons trials. They have also taken notice of the capabilities that the US conventional forces have when they want to steamroll another Army.
Even if Bush is seen as being out of control, no one wants to be next on his list. And this is not necessarily a moral policy, but it certainly is an effective one.
Iraq is sort of a lesson for the rest of the world. Those who say that the US lacks the will to act independently were taught differently. Those who say that the US will not tolerate casualties are being shown to be wrong. Those who say the US lacks the courage to act ruthlessly are being proven wrong. Those who say the US lacks the comittment for the long haul are being proven wrong. And they are being shown to be wrong.
The hard, ruthless men in the Mosques, basements and training camps all over the middle east have taken notice of just how much it has cost Iraq to be on the US hit list, and they are scared of George W Bush. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 11:45:47 AM |
Even if Bush is seen as being out of control, no one wants to be next on his list. And this is not necessarily a moral policy, but it certainly is an effective one.
for what?
bringing the world back to the brink of nuclear war?
things haven't been as bad as this since way before the berlin wall came down.
Your use of the term "effective" is criminally laughable..
effective at WHAT?
destablizing the world's economy?
destabilizing the UN? NATO?
trashing our role as leader of the free world?
throwing away all the trust other nations had in us?
I think you're trying to spin Bush's miserable failures to be seen as something good....
I couldn't agree less. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 12:02:37 PM | General Jack. I think hell will freeze over before either of us agrees with one another on anything. "Criminally Laughable" you laugh at crime?
I do think you are right about Bush damaging the UN. However the UN is an organisation so devoid of credability that it really does not matter. In fact the UN probably needs to be ignored more. NATO, destabalized, How? Unless I am mistaken, Eastern European Nations are begging to join.
Trashing role as leader of the free world? Well I have to say that the lack of support from the rest of the free world has exposed exactly what kind of friends they are anyways. Maybe the rest of the free world should stop freeloading and look after their own sh1t.
The trust other nations had? Well right now other nations trust the US to back up it's threats so it is merely a shift.
I am not trying to minimise anything, but you have to give credit where credit is due. On the global stage the Bush Administration is scary, and thai is not an entirely bad thing. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 12:38:23 PM |
"Criminally Laughable" you laugh at crime?
I laugh at your faux pas of thinking Bush's disaster of a presidency is "effective".... | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 12:56:32 PM | The rest of the world Scared Sh!tless?????
Bush has shown just how ineffective the U.S. Miliatry really is. He did not stop 911, infact it took him by surprise. He has NOT found Osama bin Laden, He has NOT stopped Al Qaeda, And how many years has He been in Iraq Now? A country smaller then most States and no where near the resources or soldiers and Bush is still struggling there. Oh Yea He really showed the rest of the world. Scared Sh!tless? Laughing their pants off more likely. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 12:57:00 PM | GeneralJack, it is ok to disagree. In fact if this was a thread about the failure of Bush on the domestic front I would not even be argueing with you.
And do I think that Bush is rampaging around with all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop. Yes, he is. But the point I am attempting to make is that this approach is understood quite well in Beijing, Pyongyang, Tehran and Damascus and wherever the capital of Saudi Arabia is ( Rijad?) . And lets get real, these regimes do understand the lesson of Iraq. And the leason is " Yes they are crazy enough to do that". | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 1:03:40 PM |
And the leason is " Yes they are crazy enough to do that".
I don't think Bush's "bull in a china shop" foreign diplomacy and military aggression has done anything but restart the nuclear arms race and international saber rattling. Regardless of what Bush says, other international aggressors realize this is an open window of opportunity for them. Look at Rwanda. Do you think that would have happened if we weren't tied up in Iraq? how about haiti? Iran's nuke program? NK's nuke program?
I just can't see it your way on this.
The cold war has restarted. there's an arms race again, man. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2005 1:08:33 PM | Trew, that is an ideologically tainted perspective. The Invasion of Afghanistan and toppeling of the Taliban was considered almost impossible, untill the US Military did it.
The logistics of the Iraqui Invasion alone was an awesome demonstration of the US military's ability to project power anywhere it chooses. Canadian Major General(Retired) Lewis MacKenzie referred to it as the most impressive military operation since D Day. And he was only talking about the ability to move that much hardware so fast.
The cakewalk over Iraq's army was an awesome demonstration to the rest of the world of just how good the US military is. And a reminder to Iran that obsolete Soviet surplus weapons are almost worthless.
True, the US intelligence community seems unable to find its ass with both hands, And Iraq isoccupied but not pacified however that is not my point. What is my point is that the other Axis of Evil countrise are painfully aware of how dominant the US military is in battle, and that no regime is safe if the US gets pissed off. | |
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