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 SixthSymphony

Joined: 12/16/2007
Msg: 1
for gawd's sake, markus...!
Posted: 12/22/2007 1:21:13 PM
For gawd's sake, Markus, *please* put a 'Don't ever show me this person again' button on your site! *PLEASE*!! You've got literally *millions* of advertisers here, *practically all of whom* are not going to be even remotely relevant to me -- and yet *the same sodding faces* are there *every time I log on*...!!! *For crying out loud*, Markus, WHY THE HELL can't I *hide* all the *hundreds and hundreds and hundreds* of people I *already know* are of *not the slightest bloody interest to me*...?!? Why do you want me to have to keep looking at them??? Why...? *WHY*...? And WHY THE HELL do I have to keep seeing some 'SINGLE ROW OF USERS' who are 'users who viewed me at some point', and who are now 'sorted by when they were last online'...? Let me make this clear: *I DON'T CARE 'WHEN THEY WERE LAST ONLINE'*!! If I 'cared', *I'D BE IN TOUCH WITH THEM*, for chrissakes, wouldn't I!!

Look, Markus, you're a great guy, and you provide a great service, and I wish you and everyone else nothing but success and happiness; but, please, *I DON'T WANNA SEE THESE BLOODY PEOPLE*!!! PLEASE *LET ME MAKE THEM DISAPPEAR*...!!!
 bucsgirl

Joined: 5/13/2006
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for gawd's sake, markus...!
Posted: 12/22/2007 1:24:26 PM

I DON'T WANNA SEE THESE BLOODY PEOPLE


Geez, that's easy. Don't click the button "viewed me".

It's a feature, not mandatory that you must use it. If it's something you don't like, don't use it. Simple enough, no?
 SixthSymphony

Joined: 12/16/2007
Msg: 3
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Posted: 12/22/2007 1:35:10 PM
Actually, it's not 'simple enough'. I want a button that *hides* a given person from me *in all circumstances*, and *forever*. There are people here who've been giving me grief -- and yet *I still have to keep bloody seeing them*...!! Let me just *hide them*, please! That's all I want. I don't want them 'thrown off the site' or anything. I just want to *not have to see them* when I log on!

I mean it! The way things are now, everyone on this site who's ever been *insulted* or *stalked* or *pestered* or even just had a failed relationship with someone else on here can *still* be made to *keep having to see them*!! That's just *not good enough*...! Look, I really do mean this...!

M.
 greendragonempire

Joined: 12/11/2007
Msg: 4
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Posted: 12/22/2007 1:35:36 PM
Is it odd that my viewed me list is empty.
 bucsgirl

Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 5
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Posted: 12/22/2007 1:40:51 PM
Perhaps until and if it does get changed if it aggravates you so much it would seem better not to click on it and have to see these people.

That's all I was suggesting. There's so many great features here and so many good things to experience. Maybe it's just me but I tend to avoid things that irritate me or I don't like. Don't let it ruin your experience, okay?
 Deceased~

Joined: 9/16/2007
Msg: 6
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Posted: 12/22/2007 1:54:25 PM

I DON'T WANNA SEE THESE BLOODY PEOPLE


Here's a thought.. instead of changing the website design to please you, why don't you leave the website and the rest of us millions can go on not being bothered by the sight of a few familiar smiling faces every day.

Here is a piece of advice that will help you for the rest of your life... One rarely gets what they want by demanding it. Sometimes even if you have every right to demand something, you will not get it as quickly or in as good a condition as you would if you asked politely.
 SixthSymphony

Joined: 12/16/2007
Msg: 7
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Posted: 12/22/2007 1:59:20 PM
You're really not paying attention to me.

There are numerous people here I already know I'm not interested in. I want to be able to concentrate on people I haven't already investigated -- but whatever I do, I'm *swamped* by *the people I already know I'm not interested in*. I click on 'my matches': *they're still there*. I click on 'viewed me': *they're still there*. I click on 'basic search': *they're still there*. I click on 'advanced search': *they're still there*. I click on 'personality search': *they're still there*. I click on 'my matches': *they're still there*. I click on 'my city': *they're still there*. I click on 'no emails': *they're still there*.

Am I going too fast for you here...?

Then there are the people who've been giving me grief. Not many of them, but it matters to me. I don't wanna look at them; but when I click on 'my matches': *they're still there*. I click on 'viewed me': *they're still there*. I click on 'basic search': *they're still there*. I click on 'advanced search': *they're still there*. I click on 'personality search': *they're still there*. I click on 'my matches': *they're still there*. I click on 'my city': *they're still there*. I click on 'no emails': *they're still there*.

Are you finally getting the hang of this...?

I wanna be able to *hide* the people I already know I'm not interested in.

Would you like me to go through this again?

M.
 Deceased~

Joined: 9/16/2007
Msg: 8
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Posted: 12/22/2007 2:05:09 PM

Are you finally getting the hang of this


Yes. I get the hang of it. You are one who doesn't like the way the site is designed and you are demanding it be changed. Fine.

Here is the rub though, mate. Even people who are in authoritative positions here (the mods - they will show up soon enough here) are not in a position to demandchanges. All of us can only ask and you are by no means the first to have asked for this feature.
 psssst

Joined: 6/4/2007
Msg: 9
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Posted: 12/22/2007 2:06:30 PM

Would you like me to go through this again?
Could you please? After of course you do a thread search...
 kevinmach

Joined: 3/29/2007
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Posted: 12/22/2007 2:17:03 PM
Your rant not withstanding (although it was pretty funny), I think it would be a decent feature too and probably not that hard to implement.

Particularly, as was mentioned, the people who viewed you at some point that were most recently signed on or within X miles - the top rows that come up- that I've already seen and having been seeing for the last 8 months.

In most cases, it's nothing against the users-it's just kind of like looking at same four walls every time you logon.

There was the odd scenario where I was either dumped or had a bad date, and would just like to forge this person existe. I don't particularly want to be reminded of them every time they are on.

As far as searching goes-where you actually look for the users-I would be fine if they showed up there, if that in any way made it easier. But even in this case, when do go through profiles, it would make it easier to look through than wading through pages of people you've seen a million times before.

Just a little link that says "Hide user" would do the trick.

Anyway, not a huge deal, but I wouldn't mind the feature.
 SixthSymphony

Joined: 12/16/2007
Msg: 11
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Posted: 12/22/2007 2:22:13 PM
Thanks for that post, kevinmach! You know, even a worthlessly awful site like 'agematch.com' let's you *hide* the people whom -- to use your expression -- 'you've seen a million times before'...

This is an issue to do with plentyoffish's very *success*: when there are *this many people* on a site, it becomes *vitally important* that one can see past those that one isn't interested in..

M.
 miss_allison

Joined: 10/21/2007
Msg: 12
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Posted: 12/22/2007 2:58:10 PM
I am curious - who is supposed to pay for these massive "block that user cause no way would i ever be interested in and i dont wanna see their pic again" lists?

i would think those lists could add up quickly and take up a lot of server space

in fact, i believe in part thats why we are no longer allowed to block people without email contact first - cause people were just blocking everyone that they werent interested in and it was taking up too much space
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
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Posted: 12/22/2007 3:06:51 PM
And WHY THE HELL do I have to keep seeing some 'SINGLE ROW OF USERS'

Related Links:Viewed Me: No Value in Top Row

I want a button that *hides* a given person from me *in all circumstances*, and *forever*.

That's been requested numerous Times for Years now and the Admin had stated it would be a very costly Item to implement along with serious technical Challenges. To write the Code is easy Stuff, but to actually make it function for over 8 Million Users is another Story altogether.

The closest Thing currently available are Image and Advertising Blockers using the Firefox Browser. You can selectively hide Users.

Related Links:Admin: It's too Complicated
Admin: Adding something like that is easy
Admin: My Database is already over 100 Gigs
Browsers: How to remove Images of Specific Users
E-Mail: Top/Bottom Thumbnail Bar User Settings
Browsers: Firefox Browser with Instant Messenger


*I DON'T CARE 'WHEN THEY WERE LAST ONLINE'*!! If I 'cared', *I'D BE IN TOUCH WITH THEM*

Either use the Blocking Method above or don't look at them.

I click on 'my matches': *they're still there*. I click on 'viewed me': *they're still there*. I click on 'basic search': *they're still there*. I click on 'advanced search': *they're still there*. I click on 'personality search': *they're still there*.

Perhaps those are all the people in your locality. You can adjust these Settings by following the Instructions in the Links below:

Related Links:


Plentyoffish: Log-in/out, Delete Cookies & I-Net Files
Search: Define your default Search Settings
Profiles: Change of Address not taking Effect
Mail Settings: Missing or Incorrect Postal Codes
 Admin

Joined: 3/27/2001
Msg: 14
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Posted: 12/23/2007 1:08:12 PM
its too complicated.

If I allow that i'd have at least 100 Million records. Then trying to run 1,000 or so searches per second against that would require at least a million or more in hardware. Then i'd need a lot of people to maintain the system because it would get exponentially more complex as more people signup.
 AprilRyan

Joined: 7/13/2007
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Posted: 12/23/2007 2:03:22 PM
Welcome SixthSymphony, nice to see a new poster.

A number of sites do have this 'vanishing button' option, but then most of these are 'pay to use sites'. For a free site PofF has to be the best there is in terms of it's functionality.

As to the users on the site, hmmmm well, guess you can never have everything.
 greendragonempire

Joined: 12/11/2007
Msg: 16
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Posted: 12/23/2007 2:26:19 PM
hes right there would be a huge pivot table for each user, and a entry for every user he wanted to disable. it is alot of storage space and even with pre-computing and caching the results nightly would require more hardware.

but then again, im not sure with say, you have a revenue of 2mill a month maybe this is something worth looking into.
 R-i-c-h-i-e

Joined: 11/2/2007
Msg: 17
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Posted: 12/23/2007 2:40:22 PM
"One rarely gets what they want by demanding it. Sometimes even if you have every right to demand something, you will not get it as quickly or in as good a condition as you would if you asked politely".



Wise words them,nice one.



Oh yeh. How do you highlight peoples comments in your post? Can't do it.

See ---> UBB Code Tutorial
 Da_Leafs

Joined: 2/14/2007
Msg: 18
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Posted: 12/24/2007 11:24:10 AM
It's been well documented in the news and such that POF admin does quite well from offering this free site. He'd probably make less money if we had to pay for it. Thus I go hmmphh!! when I see people post about costs being a setback.

However, I did find this helpful as I use Firefox:
Browsers: How to remove Images of Specific Users
 someplace***

Joined: 5/15/2007
Msg: 19
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Posted: 12/24/2007 2:16:29 PM

POF admin does quite well
So?
Just because a business man makes money, he's not obligated to start providing you with something, at a cost to him.


Thus I go hmmphh!! when I see people post about costs being a setback
Should a business that's profitable, suddenly become much less profitable, just because you feel that you'd like to recieve a free service from it.

Last time I checked, Harley Davidson does quite well, but I don't think they're obligated to give me a free bike.
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
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Posted: 12/24/2007 3:56:32 PM
Thus I go hmmphh!! when I see people post about costs being a setback

1 single Guy can design, maintain and run this entire Dating Site for over 4 Years, but he should now hire an Army of Staff so you can filter out User Images.

What you are asking for is not yet another Tweak, a few more Emoticons, another Messaging or Search Filter, but a major costly Array of Hardware & Experts to make a small percentage of Users a little happier.

It may be quite possible this particular Request would take more Time, Effort and Expense than what it takes to operate all current Aspects of this Site combined.

Would you be willing to be a Million out of Pocket so someone else can choose which Mugs they wanna see at the top of their Inbox?

Would this Feature be that important to justify such Expenses?
You'll live another Day without it.
 Rhett1

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 21
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Posted: 12/24/2007 4:18:41 PM
I think I have the perfect solution for ya, OP: join a different dating site, then you won't be stuck looking at people you're not interested in...oh, wait, there will be people you're not interested in on any other site, too. You may have to weed through them a bit to get to the ones you ARE interested in.
It sounds like you want POF tailored specifically to meet your own needs, that's just silly.
 Da_Leafs

Joined: 2/14/2007
Msg: 22
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Posted: 12/25/2007 6:04:28 AM
Well ticket and some, you seem to have your panties in a knot!!!
I guess you guys didn't see that I indicated a suggested solution worked just fine for me. Couldn't accept that??? Or just had to pick out the negative...Nice!!!!

My only point about the money is that whenever there are suggestions here many people post about the costs involved because it's a free site. I was pointing out that the admin, who does try to add user friendly functions, does quite well on the advertising on this free site and that people shouldn't be bemoaning the costs ALL the time. I work in IT and am familiar with certain costs.
Think about this. It's a free site and thus that is why a lot of people are on here. If it wasn't free then the amount of users would be dramatically less. But by going for quantity over quality the opportunity to make more money, via ads, is greatly increased. Now if you want to keep and attract more users, that will eventually click on an ad, you have to provide a half decent service. If the service sucks then no one will be interested even if it is free because it sucks. Did you ever hear the old saying..."It takes money to make money!" Something to ponder!

And someplace dude, Harley Davidson would be the equivalent of a paid site...think about that dude!....ignorant example! At no point did I say/write there was an obligation to me! Clean the crap out of your eyes!!

Again, I would like to thank ticket for his suggested solution. It works fine for me!
 rsx11s

Joined: 3/28/2007
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Posted: 12/25/2007 7:17:48 AM
0h-kay-cupid has "dead to me" button that does what the OP wants. It's just an extra bit of SQL in the SELECT.
 someplace***

Joined: 5/15/2007
Msg: 24
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Posted: 12/25/2007 7:21:32 AM
0h-kay-cupid has "dead to me" button that does what the OP wants
Nobody, on this free site, is stopping you from buying your paid membership at the other site.
 Deceased~

Joined: 9/16/2007
Msg: 25
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Posted: 12/25/2007 9:59:29 AM

I was pointing out that the admin, who does try to add user friendly functions, does quite well on the advertising on this free site and that people shouldn't be bemoaning the costs ALL the time. I work in IT and am familiar with certain costs.


Your point is taken but in message #14, "the guy who holds the gold" has stated he does not wish to spend said money for the feature. If you are familiar with IT and business costs in general, wouldn't you also be familiar with the basic idea of the owner of a business being able to decide for himself how he wants to spend his money and that he has the right to judge for himself how he wants to run said business?

I am not disrespecting your opinion, only meaning to point out that even if you owned a competing business to this one, that was even more successful than POF as an enterprise, wouldn't it be a bit arrogant to go to your competitors business location and attempt to start telling them how to run their own operation?

As for any other posters here, what is wrong if said business clients happen to agree with the way the business is being run and simply advocate for it and express agreement that the decision to not spend the money for the proposed changes seems a wise decision?

I agree with Admin on this decision. To make the changes proposed would virtually change the way this enterprise is operated. It would make it very much more complicated, at a great investment and the change would likely not draw that many more customers. If you look at this straight from a business point of view, there would probably be a minimal return on the investment. It would also incur continuing manpower costs as mentioned.

Either way, the CEO has made his decision so there is nothing to discuss at this point, really.
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