| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/11/2008 9:08:41 PM | I'm going to France in April with my 2 yr old daughter and myself, I was just wondering if anyone had gone through the passport process when the other parent is not involved as well as not going to court through it.
Pretty much, my ex didn't want to be involved with my daughter 2 months before I was due. I have not heard from him since. So that was his choice, and I have no probably being 100% financialy/emotionaly responsible for my daughter. | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/11/2008 10:06:01 PM | If he is not on the child's birth certificate, then you won't have a problem getting a passport for her as you are automatically the sole custodial parent for the child and have the right to take her where ever you wish. If he is on the birth certificate, you 1) have to make him sign the application for a passport or 2) get a court order stating you as sole custodial parent
The embassy will ask for the birth certificate (the long one) so be sure you have it and all other supporting documents as stated above.
Another thing if he is on the birth certificate, you will have to somehow show that you are the sole custodial parent when you are leaving and entering the country... because Immigration may ask for proof in order to allow you taking the child out of the country.
Good luck...it's a pain in the buttocks. | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/11/2008 10:11:12 PM | | You also need to apply for the passport now because there may be a backlog where you are and it may take several weeks. With visas and everything else, get the passport out of the way as quickly as possible. You should be able to find out exactly what is required currently online. | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/11/2008 10:19:24 PM | | From what I understand, although I may be wrong, passports now are taking upwards of 6 mos to receive once applied for. My mother just got one to go to the carribean and it took her 3 mos, considered quick, so time is of the utmost importance!! As long as you have court papers stating you have full custody, you shouldnt have aproblem geting your daughter one without him around. But I would double check before applying so you have all your peices in place. Good Luck!! | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/11/2008 10:23:35 PM | | Thanks! He's not on the birth certificate. I plan to get the passport next week and have it expidited just incase. I was told up to 8 weeks. | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/11/2008 10:50:02 PM |
If he is on the birth certificate, you 1) have to make him sign the application for a passport or 2) get a court order stating you as sole custodial parent
I got my daughter a passport two years ago... she is 6 now.... I never needed my ex's permission... it stated on the form if you are divorced and have no contact with the father then please tick box... that is what I did and it was accepted... maybe it is different now? | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/12/2008 9:01:01 AM | just apply for new passports for them.
You'll have to pay the complete cost, and go through the whole process as if they are new passport applicants. But there's nothing to stop you doing that and advising that the passports are lost and can't be located.
Kids passports are only valid for 5 years from date of issue, so the old ones will eventually expire and wont be of any use to the other person anyway without the kids.
My ex has a history of keeping the kids from me against court orders and I had to go to court to force him to give them back (writ of habeus corpus), so I got it written into a court order that I am to keep the passports and that he is not allowed to apply for or hold the passports. He is also not american and has family overseas so the risk was high that he would take the kids out of the country against my will. They couldn't call it "abducting" though because they still gave him joint custody :( . | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/14/2008 1:25:19 PM | | i applied for a passport for my son 3 months ago!his father is stated on the birth certificate but was not a problem-only mothers signature is required!hope this helps! | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/14/2008 6:40:20 PM | Probably a mute point, but I had no problems getting a passport for my son (which shocked me!) as I haven't seen his father in almost 10 years, but he isn't on the birth certificate either.
That said, I am Canadian, and you aren't.... which would be why it probably doesn't matter if I had problems!
Good luck! | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/14/2008 8:46:28 PM | | Thanks, I asked a friend who is in the same situation, father not on the b.certificate, she says it was fine. So I don't have to worry so much over it. Now I gotta figure out how to keep a toddler busy for 13 hours. Ironically, the 2 stopovers will be in Canada, so I get to finally get to see some Canada, even tho it's thru the airport windows lol | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/14/2008 8:53:38 PM | funny this is on here today!! I just applied for my new passport as well as my daughters! Im in canada and I had to get his signature and information to apply for her passport, but they'll also be contacting him regarding our custody on her! him and i have all verbal agreements, we've gotten along, there's been no issues to this point and our daughter is now just over 2 years old. it might be different in the usa, but because we have "joint" custody of course I had to get him to sign the passport application. we also have to state our "relationship" to the other parent who is applying, so if there was a divorce, separation or whatever, i would have had to provide the court papers on who has custody and such......
you should have no problem if your childs father hasnt been in the picture and especially if his name is NOT on the birth certificate!! Good Luck!!
wow, they told me i was getting my passport in 3-4 weeks!! wierd! | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/14/2008 10:05:27 PM | I had tons of trouble last time I applied for one of my children. Even though I have sole custody and my ex lives in Asia and I had power of attourney for my ex. Nope - the Canadian passport office insisted on his signature too,,,
However, when he applied for a passport for one of my girls from the Canadian Embassy in Indonesia, they issued one without any questions..........
I always laugh at the recommendation that when travelling outside Canada with a child, you should have a letter from the other parent stating that they don't object. The letter doesn't need to be notarized.... | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/14/2008 10:21:51 PM | | really? they must have a faster process in Canada than in the US, cuz it's around 6-8 weeks but to have it expidite it, it's 3 weeks. I think the states is getting too paranoid with security with traveling. | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/15/2008 1:52:12 AM | | A battery operated portable DVD player is really great on the plane. They come with ear phones so the child can listen to their movie without disturbing other people. And a spare battery. | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/15/2008 6:26:01 PM | Okay I was just trying to apply for my first passport for my 6 y.o. and the Post Office explained that both parents have to be there, or One parent can submit a"notarized statement of consent authorizing passport issuance for the child" on a SPECIAL form they were ready to hand me...
I then told them that the Mother was stripped of her parental rights several years ago.
I was told I would then need OFFICIAL court documents to show such..
Time to get passport was to be 3-4 weeks.
Hope that helps. | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/15/2008 8:30:12 PM | | my children have dual American and Canadian citizenship. I was advised by the Canadian Embassy in Washington when I was divorcing .. that if I wanted to make sure that my ex didn't apply for passports (American) for the children, without my knowledge, that I should put them on a DO NOT ISSUE without both parental consent list with the US Passport office. I know here in Canada I got them passports (Canadian) last summer and I had to mail the application to the states and have him sign the document before I could make their applications for the said documents. While I had sole physical custody of the children .. we share joint legal custody. It is something that was never clearly laid out in the custody order although I did follow the embassy advice and had them placed on a do not issue without both parents consent list for US passports. I do know that they went over my custody order with a fine tooth comb, long birth certificates for both children, and proof of their canadian citizenship before they would issue the passports .. plus my sponcer got the third degree when they called to confirm he knew us ( he was on the phone with a passport official for over 30 minutes and he regularly sponcers passport applications). He called me after the passport official had called him to tell me the extra questions he had to answer because this was an application from a single parent with a foriegn ex-spouce. | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 1/15/2008 9:38:31 PM | | Well, today I went in and got the passport application sent, the lady who worked at the post office told me that the passport photo for my daughter wasn't correct, so I had to redo it, she was sitting in a stool and the background of the stool was scene, geesh they are so picky. She says nothing can be in the background. so she had to stand up on a stool to take her pic, she did good. No issue with my ex not being on the birth certificate. she complimented me on how well my daughter was doing, she was an angel ;o) I forgot to bring in my old passport, so I had to fill in a lost/stolen passport paper. She told me it would take 6 weeks, so I skipped on expiditing, because she felt that that would waste my money. I just hope it arrives on time! They do take your birth certificate though and you'll get it back in the mail. | |
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| passports for children with absent parent
Posted: 2/18/2008 2:57:30 AM | It is just a tad frustrating to hear about the ease with which the mother can apparently get a passport without the father being present- I live abroad and I frequently get emails from the US consulate reminding me that they won't provide passport services to either parent unless the other parent is present or I can show certified documents demonstrating that I have sole custody. Of course, if the father is not on the birth certificate, I can understand, but just ticking a box to say that he isn't around seems like they are inviting abuse.
When my daughter's mother last visited us in Hong Kong I took the opportunity to go with her down to the US consulate to renew my daughters passport- after 9/11 they changed the process so now all passports are processed and printed in the US. After dropping off the paperwork at the consulate in Hong Kong (and both parents swearing in front of the officer that all information is accurate) my daughters passport arrived at our home within 10 days! (That is NOT the expedited service!)
I am also sometimes astonished at the ease with which people are allowed to enter and leave the country with children. My four year old daughter has been traveling quite a bit in the last couple of years on a passport that she got when she was one month old- all they can do to try and 'verify' her identity is to ask her name because the passport photo doesn't resemble her at all. The two of us have traveled alone in and out of the US, a few Asian countries and Europe without ever having been asked for so much as a letter from the mother verifying that I have the right to take her without her mother. | |
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