| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/19/2008 9:47:55 PM | | I picked up the latest edition of Men's Fitness and I swear every third or fourth page was an add for another supplement. Are supplements really that necessary for the average person. I mean I work out because I believe it is healthier and yes I will look better in the long run but I have no urge to be the next Mr. Olympia or anywhere near that scale. What happened to the old philosophy of earning the body you end up with? I mean if it was a hard core body building mag then I would expect a lot of supplement ads but I assumed Men's Fitness was for your average Joe so the ad content would not be that high in terms of so called quick fixes. Are people that lazy or is supplements the only route to a healthy body or at least a healthy looking body? | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/19/2008 10:35:02 PM | | Some people think that are veggies and fruit have less nutrients because the earth is being depleted of its nutrients or something a long those lines. I think it is important to realize that a number of the foods we buy are fortified with minerals and vitamins. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/20/2008 12:24:51 AM | They're selling magazines. What do you expect?
People are gullible. Most supplements are best when they are found in their natural food forms. You want chromium eat a walnut. You waant vitamin E & magnesium eat an almond. You want vitamin U eat cabbage. But every other page with a walnut, almond, and cabbage on them would not pay that magazine company like the supplement companies do!
They're not necessary in most cases but we in America have an abundance of disposable income so companies are always targetting that lose dollar and always will. It's democracy in action.
When you get right down to it the best multivitamin you could buy is a quality juicer. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/20/2008 4:09:34 AM | | i dont think they are necessary at all. just eat enough organic fruits and veggis and you should be fine. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/20/2008 7:44:47 AM | OP it really depends on what your goals are...
Personally I'd like to look like the guys on the cover of Mens Fitness magazines, not Mr. Olympia but a nice "beach body" you could say. And yes, for me supplements are a necessity, and for a lot of reasons.
#1. It would be a lot harder and more expensive for me to get all of the protein I need in a day from natural sources.
#2. I find it very difficult to eat 6 or 7 times a day like most people recommend when you are serious about weight lifting. So the next best thing are meal replacement shakes, a 1/2 serving gives me a clean 500 calories with 25 grams of protein and plenty of carb's to keep me going.
#3. It would be very difficult to eat all the foods necessary for your body to receive all the recommended vitamins and nutrients per day. I see nothing wrong with taking multi-vitamins and other natural supplements to help my body get what it needs.
So you should probably clearly define what you want to achieve by going to the gym and decide if supplements might benefit you or not. And in reality all you really need is a protein supplement and a good multi-vitamin, throw in some fish body oil and you're pretty much all set. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/20/2008 8:04:17 AM | | There is a lot of protein in salba and hemp seed if you're looking for a natural source. I would however recommend a recovery drink for after your workout, you really don't want to loss the benefits of your workout. I only use protein in the morning and after my workout. I have maintained my weight between 168 and 173 for the past thirty years. Lean and mean is what I like. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/20/2008 5:58:35 PM | | poor farming methods have depleted our soil of the nutrients we should find in food. therefore, supplements help to fill this deficit, particularly for trace minerals. using locally-grown organic whole foods can help as well. but i definitely believe in using supplemental forms of things like calcium, potassium, magnesium and selenium. everyone has different nutritional needs. i also use lots of herbs because they have concentrated properties that help me with particular issues. do plenty of reading, and not just men's magazines. and listen to your body. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/21/2008 8:27:34 AM | | hi,my name is Rich,r supps ness?thats a old age ques?depends who u ask,personally i really dont believe they R,just try to eat a well balanced diet,yep,i know its a lot easier said than done,lol.However if your working out very hard u might want to take l glutimine,its pretty essential for muscle reparation,a good alternative ?try a low fat cottage cheese,its a all around great protein that contains many essential amino acids,and its very high in glutimine,another great food?its a grain called quinoa | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/21/2008 2:53:46 PM | Hey Rich... I feel that all types of supplements are essensual to health these days.. Just dont over look the importance of Antioxidants. Free Radicals are caused by Breathing, eating, moving - basically living! Yes, basically any stress we put on our body can cause free radicals. While obvious things like polluted air, smoking, stressful events and unhealthy foods can cause free radicals - many "healthy" activities can also create free radicals. Almost any type of exercise will put stress on our body - we all know thHey e saying "no pain, no gain". Well, all this stress on our muscles creates free radicals. Antioxidants are any substances that prevent or slow the oxidation process. Remember, free radicals cause oxidation - and antioxidants prevent oxidation. Antioxidants work by donating an electron to a free radical so it becomes a stable oxygen molecule. ORAC measures the ability of just about any substance to subdue oxygen free radicals in the test tube. In short, ORAC is a lab assay that can measure the antioxidant activity of any substance and give it a number. The higher the ORAC number - the stronger the antioxidant properties of the substance.
The USDA recommends we consume 3,000 to 5,000 ORAC units daily. In truth, 80% of the population is consuming less than 1,000 ORAC units a day. The USDA recommended "5-a-day" fruit and vegetable servings will give you an ORAC score of about 1,750 units. I have a great natural product with 23 herbs and berries that I highly recommend. It has an ORAC score of 8,687 per serving (just 1 once). Let me know if you want more info on this great new product!! | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/21/2008 3:10:25 PM | | Ok, I'll bite... what's this "great product"? Although it would've been a helluva lot easier for you to just post the name of it.... I'm perfectly capable of using Google, thank you very much. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/22/2008 9:23:34 AM | | Not sure which he meant, but my aunt sends me cans of Dr. Schulze's Super Food. Probably not a huge boost for me, I eat fairly healthy, but the convenience for some might be a boon. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/27/2008 2:07:05 PM | Very good point smitty, does depend on what your goals are and yes it is hard eating 4 dozen woth of egg whits , when you can get that in a few scoops of a poder you drink,,,I do alot of organic foods too, so think really it is a combination of both to get best results.
Jerry | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/27/2008 3:49:54 PM | If you're a vegetarian, you need to take a B-12 supplement because B-12 is found only in meat.
Vegetarians also might need an iron supplement as iron can be difficult to get in a non-meat diet. There are vegetarian iron supplements.
It can be difficult for women to get enough calcium in their daily diets, so calcium supplements are often a good idea to keep bones strong and ward off osteoporosis.
Personally, I think supplement ads in men's magazines are the equivalent of cosmetics ads in women's magazines. They promise far more than they deliver. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/27/2008 6:20:43 PM | | Eat wide variety of foods and if you need a lot of vitamins eat sprouts you can grow them dirt cheap if you are worried about getting sick of them soak the sprouts in water and vingear solution 10 to 15 minutes. Suppplements are a waste of money really. Beans are usually best for your protein since meat is pretty expensive these days. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/28/2008 11:03:10 AM | Supplements are only a waste of money when you don't use them properly.
As in lazy ass people who buy them thinking that it's a miracle cure to their gym woes. They see them in the magazines and think they'll look like the model in the advertisement after a few short weeks in the gym. There is a reason why they're called supplements, they're meant to supplement a healthy diet and exercise AND rest. If you have a poor diet and don't get enough rest then no amount of supplements are going to get you to your goals.
Anybody who says supplements are useless doesn't have a brain that they deserve to think with. These are uneducated and biased opinions bases solely on their own moral code, which is usually warped. Supplements for the most part are necessary to some degree, the trick is really finding out exactly what your body is missing and get a supplement for that instead of reading all the ad's and seeing a cure-all.
If you can't get enough protein from a regular diet, you supplement it.
If you can't get enough vitamin C, you supplement it.
The list goes on, but saying they are unneccessary and to "just eat a good diet" is really naiive. You probably have no idea what your body really needs on a daily basis, and how big of a variety of food you would have to eat daily to meet those requirements, it's quite ridiculous. You'd waste half your days trying to track down specialty food items, and the other half trying to cook it all... it's totally impractical to get all your vitamins and nutrients from natural sources. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/28/2008 3:04:25 PM | Nanovapours? Does anyone ever use this. Its by muscletech. I like it so far.
What do you other people think?
Anyone think it is unhealthy for you? | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/28/2008 7:02:18 PM | I'm an older strength trainer (but NOT a body builder).
Glucosamine/Condrotin is an absolute MUST for slowing down wear and tear on your joints. As young as you are, I would start that NOW if I were you -- supports and protects joints so you won't have problems later.
I also use Branch Chain Amino Acids and Pyruvate on Work out days. These products will make a very noticeable difference in the amount of muscle toning you get for your effort. Natural body builders use them in lieu of steriods. They make a big difference in the way I feel AFTER a work-out -- invigorated and ready for more activity instead of worn out. (especially true for someone over 45)
Weight lifting does deplete vitamins and calcium -- so a good multiple vitamin with 100 Mg B complex helps the mood and energy level. Calcium helps with bone support and metabolism.
Other amino acids are useful for specifc problems, fat burning, etc. | |
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| Supplements? Healthy? Necassary?
Posted: 1/28/2008 7:18:15 PM | I somewhat agree with lolnothnx. If you eat enough organic vegetables you should be fine but you really need more. Use a vitamix blender to make smoothies. This will assure that you are getting the most vitamins & minerals out of your foods. Pulp is power. I grow my own organic veggies in my house. Stay away from supplements that have magnesium stearate, steric acid & sodium benzoite in them. They are government approved poisons used to preserve the pills. I get supplements that are still living in liquid & in powder form. Living organisms provide the best digestive & defensive care. Most supplements are dead & have been on the store shelf for a long time. Do you really want that in your body?
Currently I take the following:
1. cell food
2. peak energy science antioxident drink
3. phytoplankton liquid
4. bio k / healthy trinity (for digestion)
5. rejuvinative foods sourkraut
6. Liquid Zeolite Natural Cellular Defense
7. vitamineral green powder
8. E3 live
9. buffered living ascorbic acid (true vitamin c)
10. liquid resveritrol
Read labels, do research, become more aware & take back your health.
Be Well,
Justin
mealmechanic@gmail.com | |
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