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Posted: 1/21/2008 3:20:24 PM | Saw this on my local news today and thought some of you might get a kick out of it. A short 30 second or so newsclip showed a blondish woman of 50 or so who appeared to be in good shape. A young black youth [about 18 looking] had the "misfortune" to steal HER backpack. She chased him for 7 blocks and then yanked him off a fence, ripped his shirt off trying to get her backpack, and generally made him quite "sorry". He admitted to police that he was responsible for other burgalaries in the area. I am sure he will get out of jail soon IF he is not already out.
Moral of story? Never steal something from a lady who runs marathons AND has a BLACK BELT in Karate!
*** I did not make this up*** You might be able to find the story on the Tampa Fox [WTVT website] Network if interested. | |
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Posted: 1/21/2008 5:56:57 PM | She "ripped his shirt off", in public, and did not get arrest for sexual assault?
Tell her to move to NY. | |
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Posted: 1/21/2008 10:30:13 PM |
Saw this on my local news today and thought some of you might get a kick out of it. A short 30 second or so newsclip showed a blondish woman of 50 or so who appeared to be in good shape. A young black youth [about 18 looking] had the "misfortune" to steal HER backpack. She chased him for 7 blocks and then yanked him off a fence, ripped his shirt off trying to get her backpack, and generally made him quite "sorry". He admitted to police that he was responsible for other burgalaries in the area. I am sure he will get out of jail soon IF he is not already out.
Moral of story? Never steal something from a lady who runs marathons AND has a BLACK BELT in Karate!
*** I did not make this up*** You might be able to find the story on the Tampa Fox [WTVT website] Network if interested.
Umm...not a bad story...but two questions/comments:
1) Why,exactly,did you feel it was necessary to include the races of the two people involved? I'm not sure what that added to story (if anything) and I'm sure it had nothing to do w/ why the crime was committed.
2) While I obviously don't condone street robbery...isn't anybody bothered by all of these people chasing muggers and resisting armed robbers?
While this woman was fortunate ( and apparently skilled) enough to successfully confront a robber...most people are not.
And would this story have been highlighted during the broadcast if her assailant had turned when she confronted him and stabbed or slashed her w/ a knife or had been skilled himself and beaten her severely.
While nobody wants to get robbed (myself included) and people work hard for the possessions,is there really anything that you have (other than your family) that would worth being seriously injured or killed over in the street?
I think the media does a serious disservice when they highlight people resisting offenders in situations where their lives (or the lives of others) are not in danger. | |
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Posted: 1/21/2008 11:02:44 PM | | THe robber might actually have a decent argument for pressing criminal charges against this woman. American law is very specific on a state to state basis about these types on incidents. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 9:27:22 AM | Cocytus....th whole idea is that anything you own is yours, and you have a right to keep it. Maybe your home can be used as a "free mall" by every punk in the block and you can be one of the sheeple that allows it to happen, but some of us don't want to work our butts off to be able to buy some nice things, just to have it ripped off by some idiot who thinks he deserves a free ride!
I agree that some of the laws in the US and Canada favour the criminals over the victims...ut turning the table by making a criminal into a victim needs to be looked at. Remove the criminal...less crime...simple equation. Refuse to be a victim....but, not necessarily a vigiliante. If a crime is being committed upon your person, property or to someone else, you have to have the right to intervene without fear of legal reprisals against you. This would iclude killing the criminal, but if and only if you felt your life was in danger. So, no chasing them after they dropped the goods they just ripped off from you.
I figure this woman got lucky this time. I hope she realizes that....and congradulate her on her luck in not running into someone who was armed. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 9:39:35 AM | | The problem isnt so much the fact that the woman got her revenge, but think of what could have happened as she was chasing the robber? Running across streets has a potential of causing a car accident and dangers everybody around her. There are a number of things that could happen in the pursuit of revenge. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 9:44:19 AM | ^^^^^
Not sure where the "sheeple" remark comes from...
I'm a firearms owner and would defend myself and my home if it was invaded.
I would also defend the lives of others that were being attacked.
I would NOT however run after someone who stole s purse or some other replaceable item.
I might DRIVE after them...to see where they went.
But I'm not going to risk my life and/or health for some makeup,a driver's license and few bucks.
Nor would I chase a a burglar after he left my house or a thief from a business.I saw a clerk chase a guy that stole a 12pack from a store and injury his leg on the curb while the kid stood there and watched him,laughing.
Your life has to be more valuable than anything else that you can buy.
If it isn't...then maybe you should re-evaluate your priorities. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 9:50:28 AM | | Cocy: I think of people who assault others on the street as grizzlies--you have two choices if a bear wants to get you. Fight or die. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 9:58:38 AM | | Here's one for ya and this actually happened.In Jackson,Miss a few yrs ago a young black man broke into the home of a black lady and attempted to rape her.She grabbed him by the "Nads" with hands and called the police with the other.She held him like that until the police arrived. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 10:08:19 AM | ^^^^^^
For the two posts above...
"Grizzlies"...are you serious?
The majority of cases where people are robbed...they give up their goods..and nothing happens.
Or the robber is incompetent and bungles the robbery.
Either way...no on gets hurt.
Which is how a RATIONAL thinking person wants things to end.
And WTF does the race of the assailant have to do w/ the crime?
Or does you use of it answer that question? | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 10:16:52 AM | Cocy: Personal attacks on other posters are far more irrational than anything I have said. Take a chill pill before posting tirades for everyone to see.
I agree with Cocy, though--the race of the people invovled isn't really pertinent to these stories. Sometimes race is pertinent, but not in these 2 cases. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 10:24:45 AM | ^^^^ cocytus
I have been reading your posts in several threads and i believe that you have a major issue with comfort in your race.
As soon as somebody uses race to describe somebody (which is fair i believe) you start in...take a bloody chill pill nobody is making any racist comments to you or anybody else.
it has nothing to do with the topic at hand | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 10:35:09 AM | ^^^^^^^
The above two posts:
1) You referred to other human beings animals.
That alone was foolish.
If you see my response as a "personal attack"..then perhaps that was the second foolish thing that you've posted today.
2) Thank for following my posts.
I'm very comfortable w/ my race.
It' all I've ever known...so I'd have no choice but to be comfortable.
I have questions as to why the race of the victim and attacker are being put into the posts.
It provides no additional information about why the crime was committed and to me,is being used to inflame the sensitivities of the other readers
Had both assailant and victim been of the same race...would it have even been mentioned?
Therefore...it's purpose was...?
You might consider sticking to the threads about Canada...
You don't want to venture into too many other areas that you are also have little knowledge of... | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 10:41:15 AM | Why do you care if the race is mentioned?
For that matter why should the gender of any persons involved in incidents be divulged?
dont read so much into things, sometimes they are harmless simple comments | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 10:46:36 AM | | If you will read my post both the victim and assailant were the same race. I relayed the story like it was reported. I thought it was a compliment to the black lady.If you have a problem with the truth I really don't care.Get over it. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 10:56:36 AM | Yes...and their both being Black means..what?
A white guy in the town I live in was beaten by White clerk as he tried to rob her store.
What does the fact that all the participants were White have to do with that story?
It doesn't...
And I shouldn't have to tell a grown man that. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 12:09:40 PM | Most people will react by instinct in situations like this. If you have any type of training, your instinct may be to pursue. If you don't have any training, your instinct may possibly be to call for help and report or not. As for this instance, I commend the woman on her success and luck.
As for the comments regarding race. I don't recall reading anywhere that stated anyone's race. It did mention their skin colour for descriptive purposes. (Some people need more detailed descriptions to visualise an image in order to follow a topic). I do not see anything mentioning if any individuals came from a specific cultural back ground. No where does it state "Caucasian, Asian or any other race". | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 11:06:11 PM |
1) Why,exactly,did you feel it was necessary to include the races of the two people involved? I'm not sure what that added to story (if anything) and I'm sure it had nothing to do w/ why the crime was committed.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill. And for nothing as far as I can tell -- the woman was described as "blondish" -- how is that race? I've seen blonde black women, too. | |
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Posted: 1/23/2008 11:11:57 AM |
1) You referred to other human beings animals.
That alone was foolish.
If you see my response as a "personal attack"...then perhaps that was the second foolish thing that you've posted today.
Perhaps. Or perhaps I know the difference between simple prose and metaphors. | |
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Posted: 1/23/2008 11:45:22 AM | Apparently the young mans race was mentioned in the piece of news that is discussed here. In order to correctly relay the story it should be mentioned here as well. If we start scrutinizing everything we read and take things out of the story we are not telling it as it was first quoted.
I think it's troubling when you can't mention a persons race. For some of us stupid caucasians it is true that we have a hard time distinguish some black people from other black people. Why? I think because we are simply just not used to the defining features for that race. It's the same with asian people, at least to me. I'm just clueless and as far as I know some other races have a hard time seeing the defining features in caucasians.
Mentioning a race is not a sinister thing to do. To vehmently object every time that is done is ridiculous in my opinion and can cause more racial tension than we desire.
There are far more important things to fight over than the fact that someone said "black".
I'm wondering what would happen if there was a white channel on TV just as there is a Black channel (BET). One could argue that people who talks about everyone being equal should object against a channel that clearly is aimed towards black people. Are they? I don't think so but I'm pretty sure that the same people would start objecting if they all of a sudden read WET in the channel section.
Should we not mention gender either? Are all young men going to be upset because OP mentioned he was young? Was that needed? Was it needed to mention he was a man? How about a person ran after another person that robbed (hmmm...it?). | |
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Posted: 1/23/2008 12:02:09 PM | I inferred that a Sheeple was a person who "followed the herd." Is a human, but thinks like a sheep.
I definitely agree with a lot of what Cocytus is saying. I'm not someone who would be muggable if I wasn't threatened with a weapon in the first place, but I'd never push someone who had one. Too much Macho television and movie watching can be bad for your sense of the realistic. Cocytus points out quite rightly, that for the majority of the population, this is just unsafe.
As for reporting the races of the people involved, I can see what he's saying. I would like to think that they are just reporting the details that they know. To some degree, they have a requirement to include a detail. Like, if they say "charged with the crime is Jim Smyth, 39, on Apple Street." Anyone who knows Jim Smyth, 38 knows it's another Jim, because the age is different, or Jim Smyth, 39, who lives on Bay Avenue isn't the guy either. But... I've worked in the busiest ER in my city. In Canada, stabbings are way more common than shootings, but we saw far more criminal assaults with knives roll through our doors than the Media ever reported. How does the media select what it reports and what it doesn't? In this case, I'd assume it was reported because a victim turning the tables on her attacker is a human interest story. The races of the people involved were irrelevant to choosing the report the story. A similar story took place in my city a few years ago when a white burglar had the misfortune to pick the home of a pair of white ladies who were firearm enthusiasts. Reported because it was interesting, not because all participants were white. | |
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Posted: 1/23/2008 4:26:02 PM | | Yes, I'm sure they will let him out soon so he can commit more crimes. I'm glad she went after him like that. I guess she kicked the crap out of him. Good! | |
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Posted: 1/29/2008 2:48:38 PM | Purse snatcher takes backpack. Lady chases purse snatcher down, and likely gets his criminal tail spanked, hard, in the process. I don't care if she chased him through seven cities, as opposed seven blocks. The criminal got run down, and carted off to jail.
If he'd turned with a knife or gun? It was mentioned that the lady has a Black Belt in Karate. Black Belts are trained in defense against attackers with knives and/or guns. Woe be criminal, had he turned with a weapon. He'd likely have gone to the morgue, as opposed to jail.
That one was white, and one was black, has no bearing on the story; sounds like someone was trying to be accurate in their post; nothing more.
As for the Sheeple comment, it was a reference to people in society behaving like sheep; following the rest of the herd. | |
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