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 2wheel

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Posted: 1/22/2008 5:09:21 PM
Let me check my piggybank... errrrr NOPE.
 OneBlend

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Posted: 1/22/2008 7:32:25 PM
You know, there are too many fools out there who can't see the forest from the trees. They live with their eyes on "today" while they still can afford their little luxuries (via credit card) and can't seem to get it through their heads that this country is in deep shit! Maybe it'll take them hours of standing in line at a grocery store waiting for a ration in pouring rain or freezing winter, before they wake up. Maybe it'll take them the loss of everything they ever worked for. The great depression happened .. lest they forget. This is not the richest counrty, although led by the wealthiest of the wealthy who WE let create this dilema and false sense of security for us. They're not going to suffer the consequences!

Some may argue my ideas are skewed, yet those same people did not have a parent who was a child living in the great depression, losing their homes and standing in line for rations.
Don't get me started.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VpKmfjf5tUk&feature=related
 rollergrrl

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Posted: 1/22/2008 8:02:34 PM
and stock up on milk and bread!
 OneBlend

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Posted: 1/22/2008 8:07:24 PM
well this sure isnt anything to joke about ... has me thinking
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/economy_stimulus
 OneBlend

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Posted: 1/22/2008 8:25:38 PM
You can thank NAFTA, GWB, Entanglements with Foreign Nations, sleeping people, long drawn out war with no perceived end in sight, corporate profiteering, corruption and yes, the elitists - should we all go down the shitter!

Now Showing: "Nothing Pretty, Nothing Good to Soon"

I hope I'm wrong.
 1longbow

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Posted: 1/22/2008 9:00:30 PM
Our National Debt is misconceiving. Every time we purchase a product built overseas it adds to our National Debt. America does not manufacture anymore so of course the debt is going to rise as other countries are not buying TV's from America.
 OneBlend

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Posted: 1/22/2008 9:27:30 PM
It goes way beyond that .. we print up money out of thin air .. we borrow money from China, we have nothing of any solvency to pay our debts. Thank Nafta for selling our jobs out, thank an illegal war that is costing money we don't have.
And the housing bubble was bound to crash as housing prices went up and people were buying interest only or adjustable rate mortgages whilst our jobs were picking up and leaving ... thank the feds ... thank Ron Paul for wanting to get rid of them ... thank the media for discrediting the one candidate who's been telling the truth to sleeping americans. This is just the begininng of the worse to come and yet people will continue to sleep as our economy continues to roller-coaster ride until the car falls of the track.
 rsx11s

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Posted: 1/22/2008 10:04:08 PM
Man those Wikipedians are fast:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_stock_market_downturn

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hMI5j24OOrhxWM7ugVMDeJfCwDfg

"TORONTO - North American markets heaved a sigh of relief Tuesday as central banks in Canada and the United States slashed interest rates and eased some of the tension building up over a possible U.S. recession.

But experts were quick to point out that the one-day revival was not a sign that the rocky ride is anywhere near over for global markets.

The moves to soothe investor anxiety helped the Toronto stock market recover a significant portion of the losses it logged on Monday in its biggest one-day drop in seven years.

On Tuesday, the TSX rose more than 350 points near midday - one of its biggest gains in five years - while Wall Street was down but avoided sinking as deeply into the red as some economists had expected."
 lookingforwarmth

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Posted: 1/22/2008 10:15:57 PM
oh well, at least with shares dropping in price oil should come down to a more reasonable price.

who cares about fat over paid investers living off the backs of the workers
 POFEnigma

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Posted: 1/23/2008 12:44:40 AM

Anyone got an extra 400,000 bucks to fix the U.S. economy ?


Sure, will you take a cheque/check?
 dude/2

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Posted: 8/16/2008 6:03:45 AM
I saw a while back an article that showed where tone of money went unaccounted for, just dissapeared.......money that was given to help rebuild Iraque..... US tax payers will pay,......
Now what with the invasion of Georgia by the russians....and the US talking of protecting Georgia at any expense.... Hummmm.... its upsetting putin, the americans meddeling in their backyard !!!!.......
 slysterling

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Posted: 8/16/2008 9:23:45 AM

I saw a while back an article that showed where tone of money went unaccounted for, just dissapeared.......money that was given to help rebuild Iraque..... US tax payers will pay,......

You could probably sink a battleship with all the stories of American FRAUD surrounding this money grab called IRAQ. If there truly is a God, then you can bet your bottom dollar the Americans will get but good what's coming to them for this atrocity.

Since you brought it up, here's just a few of the thousands and thousands of stories hiliting the American arrogance, greed, dishonesty and whatever other immoral vice you can think of. They all apply to this nation that's gone horribly wrong and horribly corrupt. You'll note that in the story of Billions over Baghdad that the money sent by the Federal Reserve was Iraqi money turned over by the UN to the US for safekeeping. So most American's won't give two sh1ts. That's a joke and a half in itself that the US would be in charge of anyone's welfare. A.ssholes. And to sit and watch folks posting that this is all about America being good just justifies the majority of the worldwide hatred for the American nation. The citizens are either on the bandwagon of greed along with their support of criminals like Bush and Cheney, or they're just too dummied down from the mainstream media. Either way, for a nation that so hypocritically preaches it's Christianity with "In God We Trust", it's only an opinion but in God's court there will be no plea for ignorance of the law and aiding and abetting the war profiteers will be the verdict.

The truth is that each and every American citizen really has no excuse. They are all accessories to crime unless they stand against it. Aiding and abetting. Each and every one of them, because they don't have the nuts to stand up for what they preach on here every day in their imaginary world of internet discussion about freedom and democracy and change. Brother can you spare a dime will be the only change they'll be seeing once they've totally tanked their economy for the benefit of the war profiteers.

Like old janice used to sing: Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. It'll come. The sheeple can maybe ship themselves offshore and all get jobs wearing d1ckie bowties and white aprons serving gourmet meals to the crooks inside the green Zone inside the 102 acre American Embassy being built in Baghdad. I'm sure thw world will roar it's approval when it sees the day that that Embassy and all the aiders and abettors to these crimes inside get's blown to ratsh1t. Those folks in that area have been fighting for centuries and millenia. A five years war is nothing to them. The hundred years war will look like a short documentary film compared to what's facing the Americans not too far down the road now.

Hopefully Americans all understand that Iran has agents placed all across North America waiting for the order to unload one of the world's most superior chemical weapons programs on the "innocent" (ha) accessories to crime.

You reap what you sow. And it will not be pretty.

For those that keep their heads up their ar.ses defending Bushco, hopefully for your sakes, when the chemicals come in abundance, hopefully your ar.ses are as airtight as your empty heads.
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Whistle-Blower -Oh! What a Lucrative War

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2005/04/shnayerson200504
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The $3 Trillion War

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/stiglitz200804
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Secrets ~ Washington's $8 Billion Shadow

To get some idea of the scale: contractors absorb the taxes paid by everyone in America with incomes under $100,000. In other words, more than 90 percent of all taxpayers might as well remit everything they owe directly to SAIC or some other contractor rather than to the IRS.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/03/spyagency200703
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Here's a few excerpts from the story you were probably looking for:

The Spoils of War - Billions over Baghdad

...$2.4 billion in $100 bills...Forty pallets of cash, weighing 30 tons, were loaded that day. The tractor-trailer turned back onto Route 17...The money was transferred to a C-130 transport plane. The next day, it arrived in Baghdad.

That transfer of cash to Iraq was the largest one-day shipment of currency in the history of the New York Fed. It was not, however, the first such shipment of cash to Iraq. Beginning soon after the invasion and continuing for more than a year, $12 billion in U.S. currency was airlifted to Baghdad

What Washington did not do was mobilize to keep track of it. By all accounts, the New York Fed and the Treasury Department exercised strict surveillance and control over all of this money while it was on American soil. But after the money was delivered to Iraq, oversight and control evaporated. Of the $12 billion in U.S. banknotes delivered to Iraq in 2003 and 2004, at least $9 billion cannot be accounted for...

...Over the next year, a compliant Congress gave $1.6 billion to Bremer to administer the C.P.A. This was over and above the $12 billion in cash

...Accountable really to no one, its finances "off the books" for U.S. government purposes, the C.P.A. provided an unprecedented opportunity for fraud, waste, and corruption involving American government officials, American contractors, renegade Iraqis, and many others. In its short life more than $23 billion would pass through its hands. And that didn't include potentially billions more in oil shipments the C.P.A. neglected to meter.

...the country was turned into "a free-fraud zone."
During the C.P.A.'s little more than a year of life, the New York Federal Reserve Bank made 21 shipments of currency to Iraq totaling $11,981,531,000. All told, the Fed would ship 281 million individual banknotes, in bricks weighing a total of 363 tons.

Fraud" was simply another word for "business as usual." Of 8,206 "guards" drawing paychecks courtesy of the C.P.A., only 602 warm bodies could in fact be found; the other 7,604 were ghost employees. Halliburton, the government contractor once headed by Vice President****Cheney, charged the C.P.A. for 42,000 daily meals for soldiers while in fact serving only 14,000 of them. Cash was handed out from the backs of pickup trucks. On one occasion a C.P.A. official received $6.75 million in cash with the expectation he would shell it out in one week. Another time, the C.P.A. decided to spend $500 million on "security." No specifics, just a half-billion dollars for security, with this cryptic explanation: "Composition TBD"—that is, "to be determined."

In the south-central region of Iraq a contracting officer stored $2 million in a safe in his bathroom. One agent kept $678,000 in an unsecured footlocker. Another agent turned over some $23 million to his team of "paying agents" to deliver to contractors, but documentation could be found for only $6.3 million of it. One project officer received $350,000 to fund human-rights projects, but in the end could account for less than $200,000 of it. Two C.P.A. agents left Iraq without accounting for two payments of $715,000 and $777,000. The money has never been found.

On April 26, another shipment of cash-laden pallets, this one holding $750 million, arrived at Baghdad International Airport. On May 18 the Fed made a $1 billion shipment, which was followed on June 22 by the biggest single shipment ever made by the Fed anywhere—$2.4 billion. Another $1.6 billion arrived three days later, bringing the total of cash shipments to Iraq to $5 billion in the C.P.A.'s final three months.

In one of his last official acts before leaving Baghdad, Bremer issued an order—prepared by the Pentagon, he says—declaring that all coalition-force members "shall be immune from any form of arrest or detention other than by persons acting on behalf of their Sending States." Contractors also got the same get-out-of-jail-free card. According to Bremer's order, "contractors shall be immune from Iraqi legal process with respect to acts performed by them pursuant to the terms and conditions of a Contract or any sub-contract thereto." The Iraqi people, who had had no say over Saddam Hussein's illegal conduct during his dictatorship, would have no say over illegal conduct by Americans in their new democracy.

In our fifth year in the war in Iraq," according to Alan Grayson, the attorney for whistle-blowers, "the Bush administration has not litigated a single case against any war profiteer under the False Claims Act." This at a time, Grayson told a congressional committee, when "billions of dollars are missing and many billions more wasted."

There has been no rush to explain even this one small part of the story, that of the missing Iraqi billions. No one in the U.S. government wants to talk about NorthStar Consultants, much less about the money that disappeared.



The simple truth about the missing money is the same one that applies to so much else about the American occupation of Iraq. The U.S. government never did care about accounting for those Iraqi billions and it doesn't care now. It cares only about ensuring that an accounting does not occur.

The Spoils of War ~ Billions over Baghdad
Coalition of the Billing
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/10/iraq_billions200710

The Booty Vanishes
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/10/iraq_qanda200710

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 TheStefano

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Posted: 8/16/2008 2:16:50 PM
I read $178,000 for every, man, woman and child, somethng like $58 trillion.

That isnt the half of it, though, the creditors want interest.......it could be ten times that amount before were done........ and it looks like we arent going to be done for a while with a deficit of $600 billion for '09 ...........
 cncgandolf

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Posted: 8/16/2008 7:34:50 PM
"Our National Debt is misconceiving. Every time we purchase a product built overseas it adds to our National Debt."

Huh? That isn't how it is calculated. Our national debt has to do with the amount we spend in excess of the amount we take in.

Buying products not 100% made in America adds to our trade deficit ... we import more than we export.

We cannot spend as much as we do on the attack on Iraq and expect to do anything but have a runaway national debt. The Republicans have taken a budget that was becoming healthy and totally trashed it.

We cannot import more than we export and expect our vacation dollars to go very far when we travel or that we can continue to afford those things made overseas.

Now, if we can stop waging wars and we can start making things ourselves since the balance has now moved to it being cost effective to buy American again than we can put our own people back to work and recover. Oh, shucks, the insanely wealthy from the warmongering and outsourcing will not make as much money. We might get a middle class back. They won't have as much as their parents as far as lifestyle, but at least they won't have to go through the depression of their grand or great grandparents.
 Pickme83

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Posted: 8/16/2008 8:26:55 PM
Maybe we could each sell a kidney. How much is a kidney worth nowadays?
 TheStefano

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Posted: 8/17/2008 7:53:49 AM
re:"""""""""Now, if we can stop waging wars and we can start making things ourselves since the balance has now moved to it being cost effective to buy American again than we can put our own people back to work and recover. Oh, shucks, the insanely wealthy from the warmongering and outsourcing will not make as much money. We might get a middle class back. They won't have as much as their parents as far as lifestyle, but at least they won't have to go through the depression of their grand or great grandparents."""

OH, NO! That would be terrible!

Why, that's actually SANE! Horrors!
 bigmack1945

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Posted: 8/17/2008 8:51:15 AM
yes , do like obama said inflate your tires just think if we all put more air in our tires the gas prices would down and the millions of dollars saved ha-ha what a dumb obama.
the way to fix the economy is to drill,drill,drill for oil all over the united states.
if bill clinton had not put a veto on oil drilling in the united states in 1993 we would have all the oil refinerys up and running all over the united states right now 2008.
the billions of dollars that our goverment made from this would pay that 400,000 bucks to fix the us economy. and they keep on saying we can't drill our way out of this oh how very,very wrong obama and his people are, we have four times as much oil as the whole middle east. if the middle east can drill there way out to fix there economy by god the united states can drill,drill,drill there way out.
 Montreal_Guy

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Posted: 8/17/2008 9:04:47 AM
This is one of the most troubling things about McCain for me, a critical issue.

He still maintains he wants to cut taxes, that's his mantra. If you look at his perspective, he wants to cut them the most on the people making the most - and corporations.

At the same time he wants to continue this "war on evil" all over the globe, and he seems to think that cutting pork will accomplish all of this.

That just ain't Kosher, in my eyes.

This is exactly the same track that the USA has been on for eight years now, and it hasn't helped the economy, and it's increased the deficit to record levels.


The mid-session review of the federal budget released during the past week saw the White House revise its outlook for the deficit towards nominal highs. The administration is forecasting that the deficit will come in at $389 billion in 2008 and the 2009 deficit should arrive at $482 billion.

The provisional estimate is a snapshot of current spending plans that does not take into account the emerging economic reality. This year seven banks have failed, which may be a grim preview of the forthcoming problems among regional and second-tier banks. The economic slowdown has generated tax receipts through the first nine months of fiscal 2008 equal to 17.9% of GDP, which is less than the 40-year average. The second half of 2008 is shaping up to be especially painful for the economy and equally deleterious for the federal budget. This time frame, which will bridge the final quarter of fiscal 2008 and first quarter of fiscal 2009, implies that the current assumptions underlying the administrations estimates are more than just a bit rosy.

The $482 billion dollar estimate for fiscal 2009 does not reflect what we expect to be the defining features of the Federal Budget throughout the remainder of the year and well into the new administration. First, pressure for a second stimulus has begun to build as the county moves closer to the election. We expect that when the Congress convenes in the fall that the political calculus in Washington will overtake budgetary sanity and that the House and Senate will pass with veto proof majorities a second fiscal stimulus package. We will take the current conventional wisdom on the Capitol Hill as true and attach an additional $60 billion dollar price tag to 2009 budget.

Second, the FDIC has accepted into receivership 7 banks so far this year after only taking over three in 2007. At the end of Q3'07 the FDIC had $53 billion on account to respond to a crisis among member banks. The seizure of Indy Mac, with $32 billion in assets will put a major dent in that rainy day fund at the FDIC. Based on our very conservative estimate the FDIC may require up to additional $10 billion in funding which will add to the deficit in 2009. The failure of another major bank or a wave of bank failures on a regional basis will require a special supplemental to be passed, to inject funds to cover insured deposits by the FDIC.

Thus, once one starts to make a provisional estimate of what the true deficit may look like in 2009, in all probability it will arrive in the mid $550 billion range with a possible upside to $630 billion depending on how the financial crisis on Wall Street plays out and just how far it spills over to Main Street. Just to be complete, our forecast does not consider off balance sheet activities, ongoing foreign operations that remain off the official books any prospective response to the problems in Social Security that could get under way as early as 2012.

The trend in Federal expenditures under current assumptions, much less the contingencies that we have outlined within the context of continued stress in financial markets will constrain the ability of private economic actors to borrow. For years, economists have warned about the problem of unsustainable deficits to mostly deaf ears. Under conditions of a functioning global market for capital, the US could get away with its profligate ways. But, with money tight on a domestic basis and global creditors increasingly concerned about the financial health of Washington, the conditions are ripe for a fiscal crisis. Should this occur US consumers would observe a sharp rise in the cost of borrowing a concomitant fall in the value of the greenback and a genuine political breakdown. One hopes that this is discussed in more than a tangential manner during the upcoming election.

http://www.safehaven.com/article-10884.htm


Those types of numbers are staggering, and cannot continue at this rate for much longer. If you are looking at half billion dollar annual deficits, it doesn't take very long to add up to some real money.

Adding to the current debt level at that rate isn't going to make America's future any better. You cannot mortgage your children's and grand-children's future away, while thinking life is good.

You may have to do it short term, or risk causing some unimaginable human misery if you try to do it too quickly. That isn't good for anyone, or for America, either.

I see the best course as trying to pump money into the lower sectors of the economy, with tax breaks there, and that money will stimulate the economy far faster - and with a greater chance of success.

From that improvement, with higher taxes on those making the most, you can start to work towards a balanced budget - and then a slow reduction of debt levels.
 cncgandolf

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Posted: 8/17/2008 9:47:54 AM
"At the same time he wants to continue this "war on evil" all over the globe, and he seems to think that cutting pork will accomplish all of this.

That just ain't Kosher, in my eyes. "

I am so sorry to tangent but I laughed absolutely out loud that pork is not kosher. Of course it isn't. hehehheheheee.

The issue is the definition of pork. McCain, as you have pointed out, will keep the tax cuts for the rich / wealthy / corporations under the trickle down theory of economics which might have worked if the workers it trickled down to were Americans. With all the outsourcing of work to other countries (China, India, Ireland, etc.) the trickles go to other countries instead of Americans. That is the core of why the current Republican approach to economics - which McCain espouses - works for wealthy corporate republicans but not for the middle or lower class Republicans.

As you have all had a ring side seat to the American corporate tax breaks that trickled down to China they now have a huge surplus that they were able to lavish on the most stunning Olympics ever. Your Walmart and Target and KMart and 99cent store dollars at work.
 GeorgeWythe1

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Posted: 8/17/2008 7:54:25 PM
LOL, Yeah Kosher Pork anyone?
 GeorgeWythe1

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Posted: 8/17/2008 7:59:38 PM
Yes the fraudulent monetary sytem is largely to blame as it supports and encourages fraud and deception. I is the tool that supports the motive of power hungry individuals.
 2wheel

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Posted: 8/18/2008 10:05:48 AM
Even if we all chipped in our share... it still wouldn't help.

http://safehaven.com/showarticle.cfm?id=8658
 bigmack1945

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Posted: 8/18/2008 5:22:10 PM
Democrats have no common sense they never did and never will. so how can they fix the us economy? They can't . it should be against the law for any democrat to vote for anything if they have no common sense how in the name of god can they vote for the right persons that would help the economy, the most intelligent people in the united states can't vote for anyone without common sense, but the dumb people in the united states can make the right choice and vote for the people that will lead this country and have the best economy and health care in the world all they need is common sense.
smarts won't do it. common sense will. you are born with common sense you don't find it in schools or college. so if you vote for any democrats you don't have any common sense. "God bless the common sense Republican party."
 exodusi1

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Posted: 8/18/2008 6:15:13 PM
Is there a point in there somewhere? I mean seriously, if you are going to rant on about how little common sense Democrats have, wouldn't common sense say that you would want to write it clearly and with some sort of articulation that says I am not an idiot? Clearly, you despise Liberals, but we try very hard to support education programs and institutions that could have saved you from the embarassment of disqualifying yourself from that popular fifth-grader show.
 MacKevinized

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Posted: 8/19/2008 9:13:45 AM

Democrats have no common sense they never did and never will. so how can they fix the us economy? They can't . it should be against the law for any democrat to vote for anything if they have no common sense how in the name of god can they vote for the right persons that would help the economy, the most intelligent people in the united states can't vote for anyone without common sense, but the dumb people in the united states can make the right choice and vote for the people that will lead this country and have the best economy and health care in the world all they need is common sense.


Common sense would be to for all sides to realize there is no way to mend a flawed system.

Neither republicans or democrats are addressing the real problem of a monetary system that can only survive on inflation and debt.

The source of the problem is the central banking system. They LEND money with an interest rate. When they lend 100% of the money with interest, where does the money come from to pay back the interest? Answer: they lend out more again, with more interest.

This way the fed has total control over the value of money and has set up a system whereby there will always be interest to pay and we, as a nation, can never be out of debt.
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