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Posted: 1/29/2008 8:07:50 AM | | Thinking of getting a new Sony Bravia 46" LCD HD !!! anyone own any or have any imput ??? I've been talked out of buying a plasma because some people have said theirs have burned out after only a couple of years !!!! | |
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Posted: 1/29/2008 10:19:12 AM | There are good points and bad points to all tvs. None are "great". Some people think waiting for OLED is the best move, some people prefer crts, some like plasma, some like lcd.
Any of them can burn out in a few years. You buy the ticket, you take the ride. The overwhelming majority are just fine though.
Buy what you like. Some folks will always tell you you've made the wrong choice and should have got something different. Just sit back, smile and change the channel.
That is, there really isn't a wrong choice, they all work, modulo the brightness factor with dark rooms, bright rooms, lcd, plasma.
I say get what's on sale.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 1:22:41 PM | I recently bought a DLP data projector for transferring images from my computer onto canvas … Decided to try watching a few DVDs on a blank wall.
While I had always planned to get an 40+ inch LCD or Plasma TV, I was so blown away by the quality of even this relatively cheap data projector at 90+ inches, I’m now committed to getting an even better (home theatre) projector and suitable screen. Even without complete darkness, there is a very good image projected. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2008 2:14:15 PM | there are advantages and advantages to whichever type you do choose..just remember to consider the life expectancy of tvs when considering a price range...manufacturer's give a life expectancy of 7 yrs only...they can last longer,but that is all that is expected..this doesn't mean the warranty is for the life of the unit..you will need to ask the store to address any concerns you may have if the unit doesn't go the whole 7 yrs.
warranties vary from manufacturer to manufacturer and you should most definitely check into this as well.individual colour lamps can be quite costly, 300.00 and up and can burn out within a couple of yrs..i don't believe even an extended warranty will cover the cost of replacement for one of those..tvs with individual lamps are also not as energy effecient as tvs with a colour wheel. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2008 5:56:59 PM | LCDs should last a fair time. And presumably if the backlighting fails you can replace or fix it. There's laptops lying around the office that have been running 24-7 for years and the displays are still good.
Plasmas may be just fine if you set the contrast properly so the display isn't at maximum brightness. Most of the times TVs come set by default to be way too bright and too blue so they stand out in the showroom. Correct setting for brightness and contrast is usually 50% of maximum, or the set may have a preset like "pro" that is close to a proper calibration. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2008 6:02:15 PM |
Even without complete darkness, there is a very good image projected.
I should have mentioned this. A bunch of my friends have had these for a while and would never have anything else. | |
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Posted: 1/30/2008 6:39:01 AM | I bought a benq DLP projector with screen pkg off a late night infomercial a couple of years ago now and just had to replace the bulb but I wouldn't even bother considering all those others. HDTV ready, no burn in to worry about, twice the picture size for half the cost, doubles as a computer monitor which I'm writing on now but usually I have the SONY 5 DVD upconvert to it and it's razor sharp. Even my lowly 4mp camera stills are sharper than regular TV on it!
BTW my cousin bought a new flat screen 3 years ago and it just croaked on them and with no warranty they are out the whole shebang. All I had to do was come up with two hundred for another bulb and I'm still going. Mean she is very disappointed and her husband, off work for the winter, even more so as they went back to a 19 inch set.
There is a little more involved to it with the installation. You can just place them on a coffee table and away you go(mine came with a nice portable shoulder carry bag ) but I did ceiling mount mine with a laser level. If you're looking for a deal google up some of the factory refurbishes. Full warranty. The keystone settings now allow for left and right offsets and they didn't when I got mine which is why I used the laser level to assure dead center accuracy. They're also up another 1000 lumens which should mean almost a perfect picture even with sunlight shining in.
I googled up your pick, looks nice, I like the 3 hdmi inputs, very good customer reviews, great contrast ratio, 71.1 pounds is a lot of technology in a compact box(says potential heat issues to my electronics trained mind), 1 year warranty -- couldn't find a quote on an extended warranty but I'd research that a little more. Check out the DLP projectors, too, while you're at it. You'll think you've died and went to heaven!
The only experience above and beyond is going to an IMAX theatre which I did Sunday. Saw the "Swiss Alps" on a 5 story screen with 5,000 watts of audio power! | |
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Posted: 1/30/2008 8:50:35 AM | | My old Sony tv gave up the ghost last year after over 20 years faithful service. Is this a record? Got someones cast off Sharp now and the picture is nothing like. | |
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Posted: 1/30/2008 10:23:58 AM | No, I have a Sony KV1331CR I bought new 22 years ago that still works perfectly. Granted it's a "prosumer" item but I did buy it in a retail store.
I got it for my Amiga, figuring it was worth the $50 more than the Commodore monitor, none of which lasted more than a couple of years. It's descended from a line of ("PVM") industrial monitors that Sony just bumped down to retail and was unusual in that it had RGB inputs even back then.
My main TV is an XBR that was made in 1983. I got if off Craigslist for $20 when a 5 year old $1000 tv croaked. It's so ancient it doesn't have a S-video input, but the picture is still pretty stunnning. It's from the same evolutionary branch as the KV1311CR and has the same analog RGB input. The picture is not as good as *some* new tvs, but it's better than most and talk about "bang for the buck".
I like Sony for display products. Don't talk to me about their phones though, they tune the radios so tighly reception is, um "sub optimal". When I did some work in the Sony Broadcast lab they just laughed if you mentioned the phones and those guys were always having to explain to the president why some of their products don't really work that well. Like the high end CD players that only play some CDs.
And REALLY don't talk to me about thr SL5V S-VHS player. This thing cost more and lasted less than anything I've ever bought. It's be great it if worked, it does things no other decks can do. But it lasted about 3 mos, Sony coldn't fix it to make it work for more than 3 mos at a time and despite calling in favours, they just gave up on it. So besides a snowy picture now it shreds tapes, too. So much for being able to edit s-video tapes. I switched to 8mm shortly thereafter.
But the display products are legendary. I rememeber when the NFB had their HD video recored in for calibration in the early 90s. This thing was sharper than even the broadcast quality monitors. Even the fabled NTSC test pattern was so sharp you cut cut the borders with a razor. Never seen anything like it. | |
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Posted: 1/30/2008 10:38:45 AM | I think I have the first 5 CD player Sony made 10-15-20 or how many ever years ago. The remote has so much use the clear finish wore off and it actually started to show signs of rust -- But it still works flawlessly.
That has kept me coming back to Sony. | |
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Posted: 1/30/2008 1:24:17 PM | | still using a 14" sony from when was a teenager, suspect the next TV if it ever gets bought might be a sony as well :) | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 8:34:01 PM |
... some people have said theirs have burned out after only a couple of years ...
They may be referring to the blue phosphor's colour fading, I've read the way a plasma works is similar to a CRT but with a plasma the blue fades faster than the red and green phosphors/emitters (or whatever they are called).
A projector would be nice but the bulbs are insanely expensive, you may as well buy a brand new projector. I wonder if any LED lit projectors are on the drawing board? | |
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Posted: 2/13/2008 6:46:41 PM | Personally, wether it is plasma, lcd or Crt doesn't matter really (well for me it does: PLASMA mouhahaha  ). Let your eyes be the judge! They're the ones who know best. not us. :)
But as far as i'm concerned, i could never buy an LCD as a television. LCD is a great technology. it revolutionnized the way we used our digital media, wether it is photography, monitors or even tvs. but it is not a great television for the cinephiles... and sports fan especially. it makes a great monitor and lasts forever. There is absolutely no concerns for burn-ins whatsoever and to be honest, if you play a lot of PS3 or Xbox, i would forget about plasma right now. because of the burn ins that could occur on those sets (even though they get better every year, there is still issues...). But the LCD's lag so much in action and fast moving scenes in general, it is a pain to watch. even with the 120hz refresh rate, its still not even close to the plasma response time. response time for lcds average around 6ms. Plasmas? 0.1 ms! more than 50 times faster on the plasma! and the 120hz refresh rates have weird artifacts that make the picture look artificial. not real.
Real.
That is the reason i prefer Plasma: it feels more real. LCD's might be brighter and the color might look shiny and more exciting than life (that's the problem!), plasma's got better blacks by a long shot (lcd's are getting better though: i saw a samsung lcd 1080P lately and my jaw almost dropped on the floor; i thought it was a plasma!  ) and the colors are closer to reality. What about the glare you're asking? i don't mind the glare, but i do know if there's a window with the sun coming through the window, it is quite painfull. but so is lcds! Plasma's got that shiny (and more s0lid, therefore less fragile) glass. but that's also what i like about the plasma. i don't like that weird lcd screen and when the light goes on it, my eyes are even more disturbed. its like a big white spot invading the screen. the image is still crappy! so you wanna turn off the lights...
and bang! that's where plasma gets the advantage and lcd loses big time. The deeper contrast of the plasma's enables them to get deeper blacks and a more cinematic picture and experience (you gotta hook up your tv to a 5.1 dolby system though to get the FULL EXPERIENCE of REAL CINEMA in YOUR living room! Bye bye movie theaters and 10$ popcorns and 5$ flat disgusting sodas. and you can do whatever you want and do a little cuddling  and howling and WOOHOOO!!!!!
anyway.
in short:
If you:
are A gamer
Want to use your screen as a monitor
are worried about burn ins
have a lot of windows with a lot of lights
get an lcd
But if you:
wanna take care of your tv like its your baby (plasma need special care, i'm refering to burn ins: don't watch still images, 4:3 movies with orgininal AR for too long (not more than 20%)
want a BETTER picture 
Watch a lot of sports
are a serious cinephile (strong movie goer)
put your tv in the basement or low light living room (it doesn't really matter really, i still prefer plasma in sunlight...)
GET A PLASMA! 
(If you got the juice: Pioneer. If you don't it don't matter, cuz Panasonic, Samsung and even LG and Hitachi all make excellent plasmas. but i would stick with the first two :)
[yes, i'm a plasma fan all the way, even though LCD's will probably drive them out of the market and kill them in about 5 years. It is not always quality that wins, unfortunately... ]
Warning: if you're investing in a tv and you put a big chunk of change, DO NOT BUY cheapo brands.
one more thing: if you absolutely positively don't want to have anything to do with HD or Blue ray/HD DVD and that the quality of you're dvds satisfy you enough, stick with your tube set. regular CRT's have better colors than a lot of lcds, and standard definition looks best on it (even better than on plasmas, which do a fair job at transmitting SD signals. LCDs? C-R-A-P) | |
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Posted: 2/15/2008 5:36:45 AM | Quote "I recently bought a DLP data projector for transferring images from my computer onto canvas … Decided to try watching a few DVDs on a blank wall.
While I had always planned to get an 40+ inch LCD or Plasma TV, I was so blown away by the quality of even this relatively cheap data projector at 90+ inches, I’m now committed to getting an even better (home theatre) projector and suitable screen. Even without complete darkness, there is a very good image projected."
The picture quality of those projectors is very high,I rent many out to the local pubs for the footy,however bear in mind that if you watch a lot of tv you'll soon use up the lamp life and replacement bulbs are ridiculously expensive! | |
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Posted: 2/15/2008 1:52:01 PM | I dont care about this new technology I love my 52 inch big screen projection TV. Its an HDTV, it doesnt need anything to still work in 2009....... And its just a big beautiful bas tard....... 
Plus it was only 500 dollars brand new at a walmart after thanksgiving sale WOOT WOOT!!! | |
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Posted: 2/17/2008 10:40:45 AM |
I dont care about this new technology I love my 52 inch big screen projection TV. Its an HDTV, it doesnt need anything to still work in 2009....... And its just a big beautiful bas tard.......
What brand and when did you buy it?
You are absolutely right! HDTV CRT tubes are the best tvs picture wise, color accurancy and black level wise. the big problem: they don't make them anymore...
At the Brick a couple of months ago, they were selling a 65" CRT screen for something like 700$ and they were showing Spiderman 3 in zoom mode (2:35 ratio to "fit" the 16/9 screen, inproper way to fill the image...) and it still looked Awesome! The TV also had great wide angle viewing capabilities, which other LCD and DLP projection don't have... How is your wide viewing angle on your tv?
The st0res (especially the big box stores like Worst Bye and Future Crap...) are pushing for the flat panels, especially the LCD's... they want to "hide" and push out the Projection sets (rear and front) and even the plasma's out of production... LCD's are better for business for these stores since the overlighting of their showrooms is a big advantage for the LCD's who "work better" in brighter light conditions. even in those conditions, i still prefer Plasma by a LONG SHOT!
In the FS and BB flyers this week, i barely saw any RP, FP or plasmas for sale. All were LCD's  ... except for one: a panasonic 42"... which had "final clearance" written bellow it. i don't like the iumpression i get from those stores who are deciding for the consumers what to buy. they are imposing us with LCD's.
as a result, if my future plasma (i don't have a tv yet,...) breaks down and if for some reason, the parts are no longer available (impossible, panasonic will still make plasmas i'm sure :)), and if the LCD's are still rulling the market, i will "downgrade" and buy a tube set. if i can't find a tube set and that they are no longer fixable (because of lack of parts and the imposition of the market to buy the "in" stuff, in other words, the CRAPPY LCDS, grrrrrrrrrr ), the option is simple really...
I will boycott tv manufacturers and broadcasting stations and tzar and...
... NEVER WATCH TV EVER AGAIN! | |
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Posted: 2/17/2008 9:48:04 PM | I'd love a new T.V if someone gave me one but...
My TV is an 18 yr old 27" Sony that may never die. The Barney Rubble model  ( It looks like a boulder with a hard to clean textured finish)
Crystal clear picture still. Not much point changing yet. Not saying everything older is better but ... it seems like throw away is the order of the day. | |
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