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Posted: 2/1/2008 11:30:54 AM | Well, folks... if your a LOSTIE like I am, you watched last nights return episode.
I think it's great that we are going to get a look at what is the future of our Lost group of characters.
Since the flash forwards are not in chronological order, it'll be like putting a puzzle together by using what we already know about the island and what happens after some leave it.
Apperently, only six return home. Since the end of last season shows Jack at the coffin of one of the "possible" serviors, I would now like to put in my vote as to who it might be laying there.
I think it's Hugo. I think the ghost of Charlie just won't leave him alone and it drives poor Hugo to kill himself.
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Posted: 2/1/2008 11:52:16 AM | I am a fanatic myself...I can't wait to see it, then I watch the whole thing scratching my head and in the end I know less than I did to start. Brilliant!
No way that's Hugo - this person (did they say it was a male?) had no visitors. I think realistically at least Hugo's family would have been there. I was thinking Juliet, Ben, or Charlie actually. Especially Ben, who would have gone to see that guy in a coffin? He had only his dead mother and father on the island and basically grew up there with no family. No one on the island would have gone to see him, but I think Jack would have gone there out of respect.
I also thought Sawyer, Kate is apparently in some new relationship and maybe couldn't go without having to explain it?
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Posted: 2/1/2008 12:16:37 PM | It cant be Sawyer , he is too important, as part of the love triangle, or quadrangle (now with Juliet) .
I was thinking maybe Rose, was that her name? She had cancer , before they went to the island, so stands to reason leaving the island the cancer would return.
I wondered about the Oceanic Six, wondered if that meant only six left the island.
There was more than six in each of the groups after they split up, one group with Jack , one group with Locke.
And if so, why it would be Jack and Hurley of the six, since Hurley stayed behind with Locke.
Mabye it was Locke in the coffin. By the time they left the island, there was no friendship, between Locke and any of the other survivors.
He managed to allienate himself from just about all of them, they did not trust him anymore. | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 2:33:58 PM | I think the person in the coffin is Ben, especially since, when Jack was asked if he was "friend or family", he said "neither". And, since Jack wants to get back to the island, he obviously thinks that Ben was right to stay on the island.
...Of course... it could all be a "red herring"! | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 5:48:29 PM | | I agree...I think it's Ben. When Jack said to Kate that he thought she might have gone to the viewing she said "Why would I go" and no way she would say that about Hugo or any other of the "survivors". | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 6:37:19 PM | | I think it is Ben in the coffin. What I am wondering is what happen to the other survivors. Did they stay on the island? I got the impression that something horrible happen before they left from the conversation between Jack and Hurly in the future. I wonder if Ben was telling the truth that his people were the good guys with the new people coming to the island are the real bad guys. Is Jacob suppose to be some kind of spirit and was he the same thing that was attacking them early in the series. I believe Hurly saw Jacob in the house, but who was the other person Locke? | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 7:09:48 PM | | BTW... did anyone catch the "commercial" for Oceanic Airlines during that show that came on after LOST? What are your thoughts on THAT? | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 9:09:16 PM | What's the appeal of this show?
I've managed to sit through two programs...and I just don't see what all the "hype" is about...
What am I missing? | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 9:11:53 PM | ^^^You mean besides three whole seasons? Not much...I don't care what they say, you have to start from episode 1 to really get into it and understand it. Way too many details. The hour long catch ups don't cut it.
I missed the Oceanic thing, I was tired and didn't want to watch that dumb new show to see it. Was it helpful or just useless? | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 9:50:42 PM | I agree with Betty, you have to have watched it from the start to get why it's so good.
I don't think it's Hurly in the casket - if it was him, it would be bigger, unless he lost a lot of weight. Don't think it was Ben either, I think Ben would have wanted to be buried on the island (can't see him having left it either).
On TWP forums, some seem to think the Oceanic Six are just the ones who left the island and they made a pact to never tell anyone there were more survivors. Another theory is that they were just the more famous and that others made it off but weren't as well known. I think the former is much more likely than the latter.
What a bummer that this season will be so short. However, since they now will have to do 40 episodes in two seasons (they contracted for 48 episodes over 3 more seasons, and because of the strike there are only 8 episdoes this season) I guess that will mean an earlier start next season! | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 10:18:32 PM | I think I have the whole show figured out...
Remember how at the very beginning Hugo was in a mental hospital. I think everything that is going on is all made up in his head..like a story. The other "losties"are the ones wondering that same hospital with him. Just a theory. I have a nother idea as well and will share it next time. Any thoughts??
I love this show btw..I answer no phone or door or child LOL while it is on. | |
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Posted: 2/1/2008 10:21:48 PM |
I missed the Oceanic thing, I was tired and didn't want to watch that dumb new show to see it. Was it helpful or just useless?
Ditto, what a lame attempt by ad execs to get us to try to watch some lame looking new show by interweaving one thing into it from lost.
Whoops, I already posted in the old lost thread seeing as duplicates aren't well received around here usually. I gave my comments there already.
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/6617859datingPostpage4.aspx | |
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Posted: 2/2/2008 5:45:24 AM | | Snickergirl, you may be on to something there with Hugo imagining it all. Anyone remember when "Dallas" had that dream segment at the end, or Bob Newhart's show about the inn? Hey, wouldn't it be cool if Larry, Darryl and Darryl showed up on the island? I watch "Lost" every week, don't understand it much and don't try to. I just enjoy seeing Sawyer and Jack with their shirts off. That's enough for me. | |
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Posted: 2/2/2008 6:00:19 AM | | Maybe the person in the casket is a new person, like one of the Freighter characters...since they are supposed to be a dangerous bunch and all. It could very well be someone we haven't really gotten to know yet. | |
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Posted: 2/2/2008 12:51:08 PM | Somehow I just can not get into caring who is/was in the casket. I'm more curious about the foot on the island and your theory, Scryer, that you didn't mention the rest of in last year's thread. A casket is one person -- the mystery of island is much larger and far more interesting.
For all we know maybe no one is in the casket and it is being buried as closure for someone who was killed back on the island. People do that for closure. Could be Art, could be one of the couple bitten by the spider, could be the parachuting woman.... could be Anna, could be anybody for any reason.
I'm gonna try to watch it again hopefully sometime this weekend.
So no one watched that new Eli Stone show to tell us what LOST teaser they put in there? | |
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Posted: 2/2/2008 6:51:49 PM | | My thought is that it is Locke in the coffin. A lot has been made in the preludes to the season premier about the contrasts between Jack and Locke--one a man of science, one of faith. It seems from the flash forwards that Jack has learned that Locke was correct and they needed to stay on the island. We'll find out. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2008 6:04:31 AM | I was rethinking this...I watched the finale of season 3 and the premiere of season 4 back to back, so I am going to ramble here (warning - get out now! lol).
The person in that coffin (as neither friend or family) has to be either someone who means something to Jack because they are close to someone he knows and loves, or it has to be someone who was once very close to Jack and betrayed him, or someone where he feels responsible for their death. Those are the only three people I can come up with that he'd have that strong a reaction to.
I'm not sure now that it's Ben because those people on that freighter are probably after him as well as finding the island - to deal with him for killing all those scientists years ago - I am convinced more than anything Ben's covering his own a$$ on that more than anything, I mean protecting the island is ruining it, but it's also giving him no home to go back to. So IF he died there's no way he'd end up in LA, my thoughts are most would want to keep him alive. And if he died accidentally, he wouldn't be memorialized somewhere he never lived. Unless the six arranged something, and it's clear from the end of season 3 that Jack had no idea until he read that obit.
I am leaning towards Kate's mother, because of the comment she made - I also wonder if the guy she worried would wonder where she was was Sawyer (James). He'd be the only one who wouldn't want her anywhere near Jack after the rescue, and it would also explain some of Jack's comments to her over the phone, such as "I know what you said, but I need to see you".
I also think it could be Locke in that coffin because Jack was once close to him but there was that moment where he clearly would have killed Locke had the gun not been loaded. That was a serious sign of betrayal to them both. What I don't get is how Locke being dead meant Jack should have stayed (unless he and the "Oceanic Six") leaving put everyone else in harms way.
At this time, my thought is that there was a chance for six of them to leave and somehow the rest never did. Most of them are all still alive, but this 6 made a pact to just tell everyone when they got back that they were the only six that survived. Perhaps they were given a choice to give up the other group as hostages in order to go home, maybe in trying to keep the island a secret they had to deter rescuers from going there for the rest, who knows. But from what Hugo said, it seems like those who went with Locke made a bad choice. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2008 11:07:41 AM | | Worst thing I can think of is Locke killed everyone like Ben did, because he's special. He can hear Jacob. I really don't think Locke has it in him to kill any of his friends, but he really does want to stay on the island. Since Charlie talk to Penny before he died, I'm sure Penny has the money and the resources to find the island. Surely Desmond would be able to see the future of anything bad that might happen unless he gets killed before has a chance. I just now remember when that smoke killed Echo, just before he died Echo says it was going to comeback for them. If you remember the smoke took the form of Echo's brother so I'm thinking it's now in the form of Walt in Lockes mind. The smoke has taken many forms like Jack's father in the early episodes. I think it also appear as Walt right before that one girl got shot I can't think what her name is. There is going to be alot of questions about the smoke and Jacob. Like are they the same thing or seperate entities? There is still a possibility that it could be Ben in the coffin mainly because there is a chance that Jack and Ben became allies. Ben did make a statement that the people who are coming to the island are the real bad guys. Funny thing about Ben is he tells the truth behind lies and lies behind the truth. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2008 5:53:02 PM | I think it IS important to know WHO is in that coffin. But there is someone we seem to be forgetting and so I'm putting up that person as well. What if...
It's the white haired woman Desmond meets in the past, who can see the future just as Desmond did?
Just a thought. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2008 6:05:03 PM |
It's the white haired woman Desmond meets in the past, who can see the future just as Desmond did?
If that's the case, then how on God's green earth would Jack not only know, but care that much? Also, wasn't that woman in Scotland?
That does bring up something that REALLY bothers me. In the history episodes they keep saying that Desmond's ability to see the future happened as a direct result of breaking the force field from the hatch. Yet there was a whole episode about how he had those visions long before he left Scotland to join that boat race, and probably before he even left the priesthood. Why did they change that info?
Same with Sun's affair - they said it was due to the fact that they couldn't have children, when in fact it was Jin's spending less time with her and trying to please her father by doing illegal things that drove her to it.
Maybe their continuity people are off their meds? | |
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Posted: 2/3/2008 7:52:25 PM | The difficulty in trying to predict what happens on LOST is that they are not bound by any absolute logic or continuity--the writers may change things or make them up as they go along. Sometimes I think the danger is in over thinking things. Someimes it is best to keep it simple.
Whoever is in the coffin appears to be someone with whom Jack has an emotional connection. Kate also appears to have a connection, but it is not a good one. Much of the character contrast has been between Jack (man of science) and Locke (man of faith). Just because Hurley is one of the Oceanic Six does not mean that all the others are dead (some may still be on the island). Locke wanted to stay on the island and Jack wanted to leave at all costs, but in the end Jack wants to go back to the island--an admission that Locke was right.
We do not know the reason why Jack wants to go back to the island, if it is because somebody is still there or that by going back things can be changed. Kate does not want to go to the funeral, so is it because that person had something to do with the death of Sawyer (who else would Kate care so much for?). Other than possibly Ben, there has been nobody who has stood toe to toe with Jack throughout the entire series other than Locke. My guess still is that the person in the coffin is Locke, but a guess is all it is and I am fully prepared to be wrong. | |
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Posted: 2/4/2008 8:14:30 AM |
If that's the case, then how on God's green earth would Jack not only know, but care that much? Also, wasn't that woman in Scotland?
Well, first off, as the poster above stated, we don't really know because the story line is constantly changing.
Secondly, the reason I said this is because we know nothing of Jack's MOTHER. I'm am willing to bet she is his mother and some how they come together. Her being in Scotland isn't anything. People move about you know. Not everyone stays in one place all their lives.
And it is also possible she can move through time just as Desmond did when he came back and thought he could change things.
Anyway... it was just a thought I had pop in my head. What if... The white haired woman is Jake's mother? Hummmm.... | |
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