| Gambino arrests
Posted: 2/7/2008 10:15:56 AM | Gambino arrests, anyone seen this yet? What happened? Anyone in New York, can you tell what's going on in your news?
My friends follow this stuff. So, I would like to hear what you all have to say about the Gambino family. | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 10:33:38 AM | Hey JG:
Here's a link to the story. It looks like a huge bust. I've always followed the Gambino Family, too.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/02/07/2008-02-07_fbi_takes_down_dozens_of_gambino_crime_f.html | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 8:08:14 PM | Another FBI/US Attorney's Office fraud.
Step 1)Arrest a bunch of gangsters.
Step 2)They make bail and continue to commit crimes.
Step 3)They are convicted and continue to commit crimes from behind bars.
Step 4) Other criminals on the streets take their place.
Step 5) Repeat Step 1 | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 8:40:35 PM | Step 5) Repeat Step 1 ...Maybe not this time? Seems their getting the last of the bunch. What I've read so far today, todays arrestees have crimes going back decades. Who's gonna take their places (step 4)?
The Boss of all Bosses being apprehended was the real begining of the end of 'the end'. Getting John Gotti was the breginning of the end. Dominoe effect.
Step 3)... nope...again Gotti couldn't get anything done, not even having his favorite foods. And he was forced to pay, protection fees, to other non-affliated prioners,10 G's month. That doesn't sound like power to me. He lost power.
Step 2) time will tell (bail) | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 8:51:24 PM | | lol it's all business ... put it how u wanna we all have to feed our family somehow i got nothing but respect for this family | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 8:59:56 PM |
tep 5) Repeat Step 1 ...Maybe not this time? Seems their getting the last of the bunch. What I've read so far today, todays arrestees have crimes going back decades. Who's gonna take their places (step 4)?
The Boss of all Bosses being apprehended was the real begining of the end of 'the end'. Getting John Gotti was the breginning of the end. Dominoe effect.
Step 3)... nope...again Gotti couldn't get anything done, not even having his favorite foods. And he was forced to pay, protection fees, to other non-affliated prioners,10 G's month. That doesn't sound like power to me. He lost power.
(sigh)...there have been thousands (if not tens of thousands) of arrests of Mafia and organized crime related figures.
This does little in the way of slowing them down...and actually clears the way for other criminal groups to expand into new areas.
Organized crime exists to regulate the unorganized criminals and to provide services to people that aren't available to them through normal channels.
While the people who provide these "services" may change...the need for them will not.
Past arrests and prosecutions obviously didn't work as these groups still exist.
What would make anybody think that this is somehow any different?
This is a publicity stunt and nothing more. | |
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Posted: 2/7/2008 10:39:21 PM | The membership in the Five Families has been cut to 10% of what it used to be in the 1980s. Relentless prosecution, bugging and plea-bargaining have made a difference over time to reduce the profitability of the Mafia.
Yes, Russian and Chinese gangs have exploited the void and moved into the Five Burroughs, and they'll be dealt with, too. Obviously, crime never goes down completely; but the situation has been improved tremendously. | |
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Posted: 2/8/2008 9:06:20 PM | 2-8-8
Feds bust Gambino bigs
By JOHN MARZULLI
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Friday, February 8th 2008, 4:00 AM
The feds decimated the Gambino crime family's leadership Thursday - including the last vestiges of John Gotti's reign - by arresting more than 60 mobsters here and in Sicily on charges that include murder, extortion and racketeering.
Gambino acting boss John (Jackie Nose) D'Amico, 71, wasn't around when the FBI raided his homes in New Jersey and the upper East Side early yesterday, but surrendered later in the afternoon.
Also arrested were reputed consigliere Joseph (JoJo) Corozzo, 66, and underboss Domenico (The Greaseball) Cefalu, 61.
Reputed capo Nicholas (Little Nick) Corozzo, 67, was apparently tipped off about the roundup and fled his home in Bellmore, L.I., shortly before agents arrived.
"He was in a rush, he left his wallet behind," a source said. Authorities now consider him a fugitive.
"This was a bad day for organized crime, its killers and its cash producers," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.
Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Benton Campbell announced the 80-count indictment which spans more than 30 years in the life of crimes and brutal deaths of the Gambino family.
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Well, like I figured, the last of the last. Look at these guys ages. Maybe they just wanted out. Even the 'acting boss' just surrendered, wasn't even home. He's 71, probably tired to death of it all. Whats he gonna do, lay in a cot the rest of his days.
Oh man, court. Court is gonna be... wonder. Quick and be done with it, or long drawn out procedings. Geeze. | |
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Posted: 2/9/2008 8:01:32 PM | It does appear the Gambino family is becoming extinct. I expected this raid to take over my television, be on every station. Either that or something smells fishy. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 9:28:05 AM | Good news.
Now Hollywood can stop stereotyping Italians as all Sicilian and wiseguys lol. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 9:57:42 AM | Well I grew up in Ozone Park, 101st Ave. & 98th St.,(right down the block from the Bergin Hunt & Fish Club) and have to say they keep the neighborhood relatively safe for the people who lived there. Ok there pretty bad ass but if the families are destroyed you create a vacuum and who takes there place the Russian mafia or the Columbian drug dealers who will wack there target as well as there family and kids, there 10 times more ruthless. Also in a crazy sort of way I'll admit when they had control over the unions a worker making $8.00 an hour now at least doubled his salary with benefits but had some payback from the skimming of the union dues, not that bad a trade off; Walmarts workers could really benefit from a union.
Just an observation there's good and bad to practically everything. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 10:07:55 AM | at least the FBI is doing something useful rather then go after invisible terrorists.
the mob takes takes takes and offers nothing in return. if someone disagrees they get messed with or bumped off.
Walmarts workers could really benefit from a union.
prices are low for a reason, if people didn't agree with walmart's policies don't shop there, the invisible hand guides the economy. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 10:53:12 AM | I don't see much differences between the arrestees and the arresters - it's all organized IMO if we are talking about Giudo, Velodia, Wang, detective Smith, Agent Paul, or George Bush. They all work through the use of violence or the threat of violence.
Not many hands spotless anymore.... | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 11:01:16 AM | Forgive my ignorance on this subject, as I do not follow the Crime Families and Police actions with respect to them in the States.
I would like to know if part of the problem is that the Families live outside the law and Enforcement Officials must follow Standard Operating Procedure, which puts them against the wall?
Thanks for your input and elucidating me on this fascinating subject.
^^BG^^ | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 11:02:06 AM | Hm, this subject must have me pondering as I posted twice.
^^BG^^ | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 11:18:58 AM | I would like to know if part of the problem is that the Families live outside the law and Enforcement Officials must follow Standard Operating Procedure, which puts them against the wall?
That's not a problem. Law enforcement officials had a LOT of tricks and procedures they used to fight the organized crime war--some of those procedures come very close to trespassing on the due process rights of ordinary citizens. An example of this is the bugging of widow Nettie Cirelli's apartment back in the early '90s. Mrs. Cirelli was a mere civilian (her dead husband had been a Gambino soldier), but law enforcement didn't handle her or her property with due process considerations before they bugged her place, which Gotti and his administration often used for discussions.
So, the authorities definitely played fast and loose with the 4th Amendment and the privacy-penumbra provisions of the Constitution. It was a "fair fight" between law enforcement and the Five Families. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 11:21:53 AM |
Well I grew up in Ozone Park, 101st Ave. & 98th St.,(right down the block from the Bergin Hunt & Fish Club) and have to say they keep the neighborhood relatively safe for the people who lived there. Ok there pretty bad ass but if the families are destroyed you create a vacuum and who takes there place the Russian mafia or the Columbian drug dealers who will wack there target as well as there family and kids, there 10 times more ruthless. Also in a crazy sort of way I'll admit when they had control over the unions a worker making $8.00 an hour now at least doubled his salary with benefits but had some payback from the skimming of the union dues, not that bad a trade off; Walmarts workers could really benefit from a union.
Having said all that, here's a crazy notion... wonder if Americians are ready to issue some sort of 'help' for these families?? Some support if you will. Their 'replacements' sound like a real nightmare.
These men did help create the unions... dam skippy there. and a whole lot more. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 11:32:33 AM | And you wonder why shows like " the soprano's" are a big hit?
some people just glorifies these guys, some of you need to understand that these guys are Criminals, thugs and degenerates only Hollywood makes them out as sexy robin hood types of misunderstood fellas when in reality they are Thugs.
Why do people who honour men who Kill,Extort,Sell Drugs and other Illegal enterprises, what is sexy about that? | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 11:35:31 AM | | The Five Families are responsible for a LOT of legitimate, above-board businesses. That can be built upon for the future in a legal way. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 11:38:47 AM | And you wonder why shows like " the soprano's" are a big hit?
some people just glorifies these guys, some of you need to understand that these guys are Criminals, thugs and degenerates only Hollywood makes them out as sexy robin hood types of misunderstood fellas when in reality they are Thugs.
Why do people who honour men who Kill,Extort,Sell Drugs and other Illegal enterprises, what is sexy about that?
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All part of the great hipocrasy.
Italians and other minorities were kept down in America for many years by the WASPS who run everything.
so the minorities had to bend the laws a little. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 12:08:17 PM |
The Five Families are responsible for a LOT of legitimate, above-board businesses. That can be built upon for the future in a legal way.
Isn't this just a way to launder ill gotten booty??
^^BG^^ | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 1:00:32 PM | Most booty is ill gotten and I don't care who is making it. I mean Exxon is continually posting record breaking earnings by the sweat of our brow and by the blood of our soldiers. I consider that ill gotten. No taxation without representation....remember that? I can't get any of my reps to rep my interests because they are too focused on campaing donations from folks like Exxon. Thus even our taxes are ill gotten booty and just wait to see the thugs that show up at your house if you quit paying those taxes that you have no say in, they just hide behind badges.
I'm not saying anybody is good guys or bad guys or even wise guys. I'm saying that corruption can be viewed in a lot of different ways. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 1:22:52 PM | ^^Good point. It's a matter of perspective. The fact is: there are now thousands of business owners out there with construction companies, restaurants, hair salons, clubs and other businesses which are completely above-board, but which started with links to the Families. Those businesses are good for the economy.
Doesn't bother me at all that some of the businesses may have originally gotten their start with mob money. If they've been running legitimate enterprises for years, they are now good for the economy and good for the neighborhoods they are in. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 1:28:22 PM |
The Five Families are responsible for a LOT of legitimate, above-board businesses. That can be built upon for the future in a legal way.
Isn't this just a way to launder ill gotten booty?? ^^BG^^
That's quite an asumption BG. I would rather think outside the (TV) box; and I prefer the 'possibility of the future being built in legal' manner. Maybe the Gambinos have never been shown the way to legitimize?
They've been on 'radar' so long, it would take someone very special, brave to come out of that family and turn it all around. Not only would said person have to fight history, but said person would have to go against the inner workings/inner thinking of all his /her predecessors.
I say it again... their tired... it's been a long road. Being in the spotlight, hiding, and providing for their familes. I don't think they like being in the 'limelight'. This is not a family of camera happy people. (before anyone else says it... Growing up Gotti..ok, she tried, failed miserably... limelight is a 'no no') | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 5:25:24 PM | Even the famous Kennedy family built it's fortune
with ties to organized crime and bootlegging during
prohibition. Martha's Vineyard wasn't exactly started
with church contributions.
While the U.S. mainstream is just barely getting a
taste of the Russian mob and the Asian tongs....
Gambino, is still the most recognized name in
"alledged" organized crime, and therefore will
remain the biggest target for quite some time to
come. And yes, political opportunists will make
it big news during election years. | |
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