| | FORUMS: Community 7 of 10 Votes Needed To Delete a Thread is GonePage 1 of 2 (1, 2) | | I notice that POF has done away with the 7 of 10 vote. Yea or nay. I am in the middle on this. Many times I must admit it seemed like people just voted others off for the most shallow of their own personal reasons , so from that standpoint its good. On the otherhand I do think there were many cr@ppy threads erased because of the 7 of 10. I guess its up to us to trust moderators judgments of eliminating threads . | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 3:49:27 PM | The "user delete" voting on threads is still there.
Maybe you've lost the privillege to use it? | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 6:42:35 PM | | mine is gone too, not sure why I would loose my privillege as I hardly ever voted. Ah well! As the pof world turns............ | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 7:36:32 PM | Those who vote incorrectly are blocked from the feature.
Many don't seem to understand that whether a thread is valid or not is dependant on the posting rules and guidelines, and nothing else. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 9:24:01 PM | ahh... glad someone finally explained it to us.. how very weird, when I have only voted a few times,... but as always I will obey the rules and try and figure out why my privilleges were remored and if they were, for how long. Usually a big guessing game... I think life goes along more smoothly when we make mistakes and it is explained to us what we have done wrong so we know how to correct our actions.... but.... inthe POF world things seem to work out differently and I am sure Marcus has a good reason for doing what he is doing.
Happy trials everyone. I know the auto 7 - 10 delete process was pizzing alot of people off, so hopefully this will ease some of their problems....
g'night everyone.. happy posting 
~un~leashed~, the confused one.
Happy New Year to all my asian friends. xoxoxxo | |
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Posted: 2/10/2008 9:36:25 PM |
but as always I will obey the rules and try and figure out why my privilleges were remored and if they were, for how long
- voting threads to be deleted that were valid
- voting to keep redundant threads open
- or voting to keep troll threads so the community can engage in their bashing of the op (the rules are still the same for any scenario - if it breaks the forum rules, you simply report it, you don't engage or incite others into a flame war)
As to how long, it's permanent on a case by case basis after the poster's history is reviewed upon their request after a month or so.
Usually a big guessing game...
no guessing involved as rules are all explained at the top of each forum --> Acceptable Use & Posting Rules
I think life goes along more smoothly when we make mistakes and it is explained to us what we have done wrong so we know how to correct our actions....
that's why the rules are posted everywhere - a handful of volunteer Moderators simply cannot devote their time to 50,000+ posters - nothing would get done here.
Happy trials everyone. I know the auto 7 - 10 delete process was pizzing alot of people off
was? - it's still in operation.
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Posted: 2/10/2008 10:17:32 PM |
was? - it's still in operation
For those who STILL may not understand -
It's how we do things - patterns.
Those who don't understand[1]
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From post#9 by Moderator Ticketoride
The Reasons are not that important, but whether someone continuously votes to have perfectly good Threads deleted, or request invalid, Chat, Billboard and Troll Threads to remain.
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Posted: 2/11/2008 1:13:01 PM | I need a clarification please....say a thread is being voted on and someone has marked it down as redundant, but I think it's more likely just off topic or perhaps something else entirely...but it's still a bad tread, just not for the reason listed...should I still vote to delete or will this appear as I voted it "wrong"? Did I make sense...or should I be deleted too and put out to pasture?
Oh and while I'm here, I've noticed an increase lately in the amount of profiles with the main picture not showing the user's face. Or it's so far away or blurry that it could be anyone.
It doesn't bother me when upon clicking on the profile in question, I see that the other pictures clearly identify the person. But it's when none of them do that it bugs me.
There are some that are showing skulls, cartoons...etc. The thing is, these people are able to bypass our filters requesting that a person has a pic on their profiles to contact us, rendering the filter useless.
And yes, I did report these profiles, some more than once, either by clicking underneath their pics or by going on their profile and filing a report, but to no avail. Is there another way to report these profiles? I know this sounds petty, but this is something that really bugs me...sorry. 
Thanks:) 
Edit: Got it! Thanks Ticketoride:)
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Posted: 2/11/2008 1:18:05 PM | I notice that POF has done away with the 7 of 10 vote.
You have voted on at least several Occasions for Chat and Attention Seeking Threads to remain.
Further you have been banned for coming back other under Accounts, Roadtripping and Trolling.
You are not conducting yourself within the Bounds of good Posting Habits indicating you also haven't bothered to read the Rules.
Thus your voting Privileges were permanently suspended. By revoking your Right to vote, we will have a little less work and fewer Complaints as to why Troll Threads made it through the Voter Screen.
I must admit it seemed like people just voted others off for the most shallow of their own personal reasons
"Shallow" is not a Criteria for voting on Threads. This again reinforces that you don't know what you are voting on.
I need a clarification please....say a thread is being voted on and someone has marked it down as redundant, but I think it's more likely just off topic or perhaps something else entirely...but it's still a bad tread, just not for the reason listed...should I still vote to delete or will this appear as I voted it "wrong"? Did I make sense...or should I be deleted too and put out to pasture?
The Reasons are not that important, but whether someone continuously votes to have perfectly good Threads deleted, or request invalid, Chat, Billboard and Troll Threads to remain.
I also check how long a Voter has been on Site, whether he posts on the Forums and if he has been banned previously and why. If the Facts indicate he likely doesn't know what Basis he uses to vote on Threads, I'll rescind the Voting Privilege.
The same goes for those who have Issues with the Forum Rules and
Posting Guidelines and use the Voting Function for Elbow Room.
If its a regular Poster, I will usually suspend Voting Functions for a certain Length of Time, send an E-Mail to request he/she re-read the Rules.
I've noticed an increase lately in the amount of profiles with the main picture not showing the user's face. Or it's so far away or blurry that it could be anyone.
It doesn't bother me when upon clicking on the profile in question, I see that the other pictures clearly identify the person. But it's when none of them do that it bugs me.
There are some that are showing skulls, cartoons...etc. The thing is, these people are able to bypass our filters requesting that a person has a pic on their profiles to contact us, rendering the filter useless.
Use the report Link under the Main Pic or the Report Member Link at the Bottom of their Profile.
I did report these profiles, some more than once, either by clicking underneath their pics or by going on their profile and filing a report, but to no avail.
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Posted: 2/12/2008 4:12:26 AM | | So my priviledges were taken away because I voted for threads to REMAIN. LOL . It is subjective anyway if you can just take away peoples priviledges like that . My question remains why even having the vote remain than. Gee what a concept , I err on the side of innocence and I lose my priviledges . I am not bitter because I understand as individual proprietors POF has the right to do what they want. | |
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Posted: 2/12/2008 8:46:19 AM |
It is subjective anyway
Not to the extent that there ARE rules and guidelines posted
because I voted for threads to REMAIN. LOL
If they were invalid threads - you were abusing the feature, or just didn't understand it. - Both are grounds for having you blocked from the feature - that simple. | |
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Posted: 2/12/2008 10:23:23 AM | Is there a way to find out why your thread was voted for deletion?
See:
FORUMS: Deleted -Threads/Posts, Why?
I had one voted a while back that was voted off as a pity post when it was a thread about whether we are teaching our boys morals in terms of sexual activity. Not a big deal but I had one voted today which might have been considered off-topic or something but I left the computer and it was gone, and wondered why it got nuked.
Often the reasoning may be inaccurate, but the thread is still invalid, "pity post" must have a "comtact-broadcast" componant, if the thread is valid those voting for delete will be blocked from the feature, if the thread is not a "pity post" yet still invalid, the thread is invalid
Also, if your voting privileges are gone, is there a way to find this out? I still see the delete at the bottom of the posts but I don't think I have seen the voting box recently.
[The feature is blocked]
Also, is it the moderators that tag it for potential deletion by putting the box up?
No
Something I have just wondered because it is not automatic when a thread is originally posted. I don't think that all threads are put up for deletion and I have had a couple that seem to be decent threads that wind up gone for strange reasons.
Very few valid threads are deleted via user-delete, mod deleted threads posts are only due to specific violations
I guess I am confused because if the thread is up for a pity or attention seeking and you do not think the thread falls into that category, voting to keep it is abusing the feature? Sorry if I am being obtuse, not trying to be.
Voting to keep an invalid thread negates the effectiveness of the vote feature, as does voting to delete a valid thread, those who can't tell the difference or are co-opting the feature because they don't like it, will be blocked from it.
See:
FORUMS: User Votes wrongly delete Threads
FORUMS: False Reporting & Report Thread Abuse
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Posted: 2/12/2008 2:17:15 PM | I have had reasonable threads deleted and that is why maybe I was more SYMPATHETIC to others. Its not rocket science so many people do not even know when they are breaking rules. My problem is that I got no warning but its cool. This should be my biggest problem in life lmao | |
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Posted: 2/12/2008 2:22:25 PM | Its not rocket science so many people do not even know when they are breaking rules.
It certainly isn't rocket science, ...to use search, to post in the right forum, to realize that this isn't a chat room, to understand the criteria needed to be a "discussion".[Yul Brynner]etc. etc. etc. [/Yul Brynner]
As for warnings, there's no time or resources to hold hands with all the posters who don't take the hint and check the "Read Before You Post" threads... It's quid pro quo as far as I'm concerned, you get out of it what you put into it. Suspensions for posting violations should be enough "warning" to read and understand the rules and guidelines.
If you see a thread up for deletion and you aren't "sure" - don't vote, if you don't understand the site rules and guidelines, don't use the feature. This feature isn't there to express whether you like the topic or not, ...it's useless to vote to allow a thread to stay if it's invalid, ...it will likely be deleted when it's brought to the attention of a mod, ...more work for us, thanks.
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Posted: 2/12/2008 3:34:50 PM | I have had reasonable threads deleted and that is why maybe I was more SYMPATHETIC to others.
C'mon you can come up with better "Out of Thin Air" Fabrications and Speculations than this.
"Reasonable" Threads deleted?
Please find a Criteria for deleting "Reasonable/Unreasonable" Threads:
Forum Rules - General
Forum Rules - Specific
Forum Posting Guidelines
Terms of Service/User Agreement
Frequently Asked Questions
Forum Rule Violations - Report Thread
We know you don't read the Forum Rules and Posting Guidelines as you have demonstrated by fabricating Reasons for Thread Deletions such as "Reasonable/Unreasonable".
Its not rocket science so many people do not even know when they are breaking rules.
You don't read the Rules, not even at Gunpoint. Consequently you get your Posting Privileges revoked Piece by Piece, until you either wake up to the Fact you have a loaded Gun pointed at you ... or you ship out.
It is subjective anyway if you can just take away peoples priviledges like that.
Judging by the Captions of your Images, you are likely continuously drunk while Posting on the Forums.
My problem is that I got no warning but its cool. This should be my biggest problem in life
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Posted: 2/15/2008 1:15:39 AM |
Those who vote incorrectly are blocked from the feature.
Many don't seem to understand that whether a thread is valid or not is dependant on the posting rules and guidelines, and nothing else. so true, some seem to have different interpretations of pof rules & guidelines. | |
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Posted: 2/15/2008 6:01:49 PM | | so true, some seem to have different interpretations of pof rules & guidelines.
So do those that do not read the Rules. And where these "Interpretations" are consistently too different, they won't be able to play with the other Children in the Sandbox. |
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Posted: 3/22/2008 7:20:12 AM | I try to read the rules and do a search before setting a thread. I have even 'not voted' on threads that I thought were questionable because it looked like it was important to the OP. I am sure I have made mistakes. I have reported other user photos when they were showing 'private' body parts. I have even asked a moderator to delete a thread I started if I found it else where and someone one else remembered a similar thread and notified me. Occasionally, there are several threads with the same body, but the key words don't show up in a search. I understand there are not enough moderators to herd all the fish, but a warning would go a long way for a lot of us who flubbed up and did not know when, how or why.
I think the moderators do a great job for the greater part, sometimes a great thread disappears, but I figure there was a post that didn't sit right and the whole thread was dumped.
But like I said, it would be nice if we messed up to send a canned notice about how we disobeyed the rules so we could do better in the future.  | |
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Posted: 3/22/2008 10:30:44 AM |
thought were questionable because it looked like it was important to the OP
important or not to the OP - if it isn't within spec as per the rules and guidelines - it is removed.
but I figure there was a post that didn't sit right and the whole thread was dumped.
Entire threads are not removed due to one post. Every consideration, given time and resources, is given to saving a thread, if it can be.
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Posted: 3/22/2008 11:04:35 AM | | Trap, I was referring to why I did not vote to delete, not questioning the judgement of the moderator. Sorry if I was not clear. | |
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Posted: 3/22/2008 11:07:16 AM | I have even 'not voted' on threads that I thought were questionable because it looked like it was important to the OP. I am sure I have made mistakes.
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Posted: 5/3/2008 2:30:44 PM | | Guess there is no room for forgiveness. | |
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Posted: 5/3/2008 3:58:53 PM | | I still have the option of voting on threads, so the feature is not gone to all. It is only gone to the ones that abused the rules of voting. | |
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Posted: 5/3/2008 9:00:26 PM | | I thought you were talking about 7 of 9. She never rejoined the collective. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2008 3:41:15 AM |
It is only gone to the ones that abused the rules of voting.
There were many threads that I did not vote on, some that I felt were pity/troll threads that I did vote to delete and some that I voted to keep because I thought the question was valid but apparently the other voters decided it was a pity thread.
I read the rules and tried to follow them. I even wrote to a moderator with questions on some things and he was nice enough to answer them to clairfy a couple of things.
I realize there are way too many fish for the mods to have individual contact, but I think IMHO, a canned warning about how you are missing the point would have been nice. It would not require typing anything but click the fish's email and mousing the warning.
Many written things have been thought to be something other than what was intended.
If you don't follow the rules in the forums, some have had their hands slapped and are banned for a period of time and then they cam come back. Some are banned forever but I believe they are told why. It would be nice if the delete worked the same way. | |
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