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 Bloop_Ima_Feesh

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Posted: 2/11/2008 7:57:07 PM
Ok I work in Costco. I dont work FOR them, just in the store. I recently applied for a job at costco....and because im kinda buddies with the werehouse manager, i got an interview....but the thing is, i tried pot like a few days ago. Im wondering....how long does it stay in your system. It sucks cus the one time i tried it, i get a freaking interview. LAME. Lol. Thanks in advance for any help. Also, any remedies to help flush it out?
 Charon52

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Posted: 2/11/2008 8:38:29 PM
[how long does it stay in your system. ..... Also, any remedies to help flush it out?]

Average is right around 3 days. Some longer, some shorter, depends greatly on your metabolism. IF I recall right, give it at least 96 hours if you can to either clear the system or have any remnants be so dilute that they only show trace levels (like eating a poppy seed roll for yesterday's breakfast).

Best remedy is time. Over hydration might help flush it faster, but the result will be dilute urine, resulting in a questionable pass on the test and either a turn-down for that, or having to take a second test.
 oldsoul

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Posted: 2/11/2008 9:47:31 PM
THC can stay in a person's body for as long as 3 to 90 days after smoking or being ingested orally. If you smoke it occasionally it will remain in your system for up to 10 days. If you smoke marijuana on a regular basis it will stay in your system for as long as 45 days, and if you smoke marijuana at a constant pace, it can stay in the body for 90 days. Marijuana is fat soluble. It stores in the fat cells of the body, the brain, the liver, the kidneys, in other words the major organs.

This is from Wiki Answers:

"The time that marijuana stays in your system varies on how much you smoke, how many times you've smoked in the past, your metabolism, body weight, daily exercise ect. But the reason that it takes awhile for THC to get out of your system is because THC is stored in fat cells and it takes awhile to burn fat. People say that it's only in your blood stream and if you drink alot of water your body will dispose of it but to tell you the truth that doesnt work as well as it sounds. All drinking water does is cleans out the remote THC that hasn't attached to a fat cell yet. So if you want to clean your system fast eat alot of red meats, drink water, do lots of exercise ect."
 seaspot

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Posted: 2/11/2008 9:59:10 PM
Average is right around 3 days.


Huh? What? Cha riiight!!!

It can stay in your system for 4-6 weeks. It probably won't, BUT it can. It depends on a long list of variables.

A heavy pot smoker going cold turkey will get it out of their system faster than a occasional smoker because their body is used to metabolising the stuff. People that have higher body fat will take longer to get it out. Your diet can effect it also. There are a lot of sites out there that talk about it, so you may want to have a look.


Over hydration might help flush it faster, but the result will be dilute urine, resulting in a questionable pass on the test and either a turn-down for that, or having to take a second test.


My doctor told me that if you are properly hydrated you should be peeing almost clear all the time except for your first or second pee of the day. So diluted urine would be a good thing.

Drink alot of water and pee as much as you can. The more you pee and the more frequent you pee will not allow much time for the urine to stay in the bladder to get "contaminated". It's better to pee a whole lot of times than to hold it. You can also get 'detox' drinks that help to clean your urine for a certain amount of time.

But just know this about the wiz quiz. It's pretty much used to weed out (hehehe, weed out) the weed smokers and not the hard drug users. Pot is the only "drug" (by the way folks it's a plant) that stays in your system for more than a few days.

The real problem with drug tests is that the wrong people are tested in the first place.

I really don't care if a dishwasher goes out back and burns a joint or plows a couple lines. Hell, maybe it will make him concetrate more. I don't care if a clerk at Costco smokes pot. I could care less if a truck driver smoked a joint at a concert with his friends on his vacation. I don't care if that warehouse worker dropped acid or X on his weekend off. I could even gives a rats ass if that production worker that looks at widgets going buy does drugs.

I see teachers and nurses doing drugs, and yes I know alot of teachers and nurses, and yes I have seen teachers and nurses party like rock stars on numerous occasions, maybe they are the ones that need random drug tests. Teachers and nurses are some partying freaks! Teachers spend more time with your kids than you do and nurses care for the sick. But do I really care if it was on their own time? No, I don't.

How about the President? Congress? CEO's? Lawyers? Judges? Cops ? Day care workers? Engineers? Scientists? Professors? Babysitters? These are people that need to be tested.

Shit, the very people who make the laws about getting a drug test doesn't actually have to take one. Does anyone ever think about that? That is just flucked up!

If a truck driver is in a accident he is taken away to get drug tested after the cops show up whether it's his fault or not. IF he has any drugs in his system at all, even if it was from a joint he smoked three weeks ago in Cancun on a two week vacation, he is charged with that accident and his license is revoked.

But yet if a doctor has someone die on the operating table do we demand an immediate drug test? What if a child is kidnapped from a day care center, do we demand a immediate drug test? How about Judges? If they make a flucked up, ridiculous ruling, do we demand a drug test? What if an engineer built a bridge or a building that collapsed, do we test them for drugs? Or how about a scientist who made a mistake during a DNA test that resulted in a inocent person being convicted and sentenced to death, should we test them? How about our own elected officials? The very people we elect to rule over us and make laws to govern us, what about them? Shouldn't they be held to at the very least the same standard about drug use as a clerk at, say... Costco?
 oldsoul

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Posted: 2/11/2008 10:08:22 PM
^^^
I agree...for example, cocaine and amphetamines clears up from your system within just a few days...the drugs of choice for many MANY doctors, nurses, and other professionals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's a list...

Amphetamines (Biphetamine, Black Beauties, Crosses, Dexedrine, Hearts), 1-2 days

Anabolic steroids (Stanzolol, Stanazolol, Nandrolene; Steroids, Roids, Juice), oral- up to 3 weeks; injected- up to 3-6 months and more

Barbituates (Amytal, Nembutal, Seconal, Phenobarbital; Barbs), 2-3 days

Benzodiazepines (e.g., Ativan, Halcion, Librium, Rohypnol, Valium; Roofies, Tranks, Xanax), 2-3 days

Cocaine (Candy, Coke, Crack, Flake, Rocks, Snow, Whitecoat), (Candy, Coke, Crack, Flake, Rocks, Snow, Whitecoat), 1-2 days

Codeine (e.g., Fiorinal w/codeine, Robitussin A-C, Empirin w/codeine, Tylenol w/codeine, 1-2 days

GHB (G, Grievous Bodily Harm, Goob, Liquid Ecstasy, Liquid X), 1-2 days

Heroin (Horse, Smack), 1-2 days

Inhalents, just a few hours

Ketamine (K, Kit Kat, Special K, Vitamin K), 2-4 days

LSD (Acid, Blotter, Microdot, Yellow sunshine), a few hours or up to 5 days

Marijuana (Bud, Blunt, Grass, Herb, Pot, Reefer, Sinsemilla, Smoke, Weed), 2-5 days (the daily, heavy user can sometimes be detected up to 30+ days)
 Random Entry

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Posted: 2/11/2008 10:10:53 PM
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 Random Entry

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Posted: 2/11/2008 10:18:32 PM
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 wowsad

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Posted: 2/11/2008 11:13:45 PM
about a month, give or take depending on your eating habits, water intake, working out or not.... drink a gallon of water a day until the test, drink a lot before going in, make sure you pee a few times before you go in after waking up because the most toxins in your urine are accumulated overnight, and the first time you pee has the most toxins throughout the day. if you have to wake up extra early, pee, drink water, pee, drink water, pee... etc, and then drink water and go in there. thats really about it. i wouldn't go with a body cleansing kit, that might be overkill.
 SteveCollingwoodON

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Posted: 2/12/2008 5:59:04 AM

If a truck driver is in a accident he is taken away to get drug tested after the cops show up whether it's his fault or not. IF he has any drugs in his system at all, even if it was from a joint he smoked three weeks ago in Cancun on a two week vacation, he is charged with that accident and his license is revoked.


I have a valid CDL. I am drug free. I have never used illicit drugs in my life.

Transportation companies make it quite clear that drug use is NOT tolerated at all by them and by the DOT. It keeps the roads and the skies and the oceans safer. If somebody has a problem with those rules and if they are not willing to adhere to them, they should quit and work in a pawn shop or flip burgers at Mcdonalds.

Another benefit is it helps keeps the supply of skilled people down so wages stay up there. If you lowered the standards, wages go down.

I do get your point that many people out there are not tested at all and I have had a problem with that myself.
 Secret Alias

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Posted: 2/12/2008 6:22:02 AM
I would need to be stoned to work for Costco. Or even to shop there. No offense, but I can't go into a big box store without flashing back to the movie Idiocracy.
 cocytus

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Posted: 2/12/2008 7:27:28 AM
Weed will stay in your urine for 48-96 hours depending on its potency.
It will stay in your body hair for several months.

If you want the job...you need to stop using until AFTER you get the job.
And probably after that, as well.
People can spot druggies pretty quick...and there are always random tests.

Unless you want a job in construction,entertainment (small venues),food service or self-employment any worthwhile job is likely to include a drug screen.
And some are more sophisticated than others, so there are no "remedies" that will help you "pass."

Bottom Line.....if you can delay the drug screen...then do that.
More time increases the likelihood that you will pass.
If you can't...and don't get the job, then use that as a "life lesson" and take a long hard look at whether or not you really NEED to get high.
 Bloop_Ima_Feesh

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Posted: 2/12/2008 7:39:45 AM
Thanks everyone. Im just really nervous. One of my friends from work smokes pot.....she works for costco. She said she did it like two days before her interview for the job and she passed. But she told me they dont make you pee in a cup. You have to swab your cheek. And i know you can get residue from the joint on your gums.
 junipermoon

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Posted: 2/12/2008 9:39:30 AM
i've seen people use goldenseal successfully. you need to take 5 caps in the morning and 5 in the evening. red clover acts as a blood purifier as well. drink 4-6 cups daily.

goldenseal is costly because it's made from the root of a touchy indigenous plant. but i love it and use it daily for its high vitamin c content and the fact that it keeps me from catching cold. you can break open one of the caps, dilute it in a cup or so of hot water and use it as a mouthwash. i also use it when one of my cats gets conjunctivitis. so, even though it's expensive, you get your money's worth.
 pawsforthecause

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Posted: 2/12/2008 9:59:56 AM
I don't know about everyone else's info, but I smoked a joint about 2 hours before I had a drug test (pee test) and I passed with flying colors. My doctor told me that you can really only find substantial amounts of THC in the blood stream, he said that it doesn't show up that well in urine so it's hard to catch. Time is the best remedy if you are worried about getting caught, and if you've only done it the one time it will make it's way through your system a lot faster. My mom worked at Costco for awhile and she smokes pot on a regular basis and she never had a problem passing her drug test either so I don't think you have anything to worry about.
 85032Luck

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Posted: 2/12/2008 11:34:51 AM
i can understand your employer expecting you to come to work clean and sober. however what you do on your own time is no freaking business to them. -as long as your not profiled on the six o clock news commiting some kind of naferious act while wearing your work uniform.
 cocytus

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Posted: 2/12/2008 12:50:36 PM
For the "pro-drug" crowd in here...what happens if she gets the job and is later injured?
She'll be drug tested then...and will probably lose her job.
She also won't be able to sue for damages unless she could prove that her condition during the time of the incident had nothing to do w/ it occurring.

Sooo...in conclusion...working for a company that has a no-drug policy..and using drugs..is always a poor mix.
 Duckman_2

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Posted: 2/12/2008 1:15:31 PM

She also won't be able to sue for damages unless she could prove that her condition during the time of the incident had nothing to do w/ it occurring.


That is one of the biggest problems with a drug test for pot...

It only shows use, not any level of intoxication as a test for alcohol does levels of intoxication...
 Bloop_Ima_Feesh

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Posted: 2/12/2008 3:43:45 PM
Im just so frustrated because im not an avid pot smoker. i tried it like twice. I went to the interview today and i already got the job. They told me im perfect for it, but of course they did the test. I guess if it comes back positive, im going to be honest, but im so effing frustrated at myself.
 Secret Alias

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Posted: 2/12/2008 3:46:39 PM
I think drug testing is fine when it is voluntary and a condition of employment in cases where intoxication would possibly lead to injury of some kind. The guy driving the bus, or the gal directing air traffic should be stone cold sober and well rested. But if I go to Costco or WalMart and the check out clerk has a nice buzz on, it can only help.
 seaspot

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Posted: 2/13/2008 12:33:24 PM
I have a valid CDL. I am drug free. I have never used illicit drugs in my life.

Transportation companies make it quite clear that drug use is NOT tolerated at all by them and by the DOT. It keeps the roads and the skies and the oceans safer. If somebody has a problem with those rules and if they are not willing to adhere to them, they should quit and work in a pawn shop or flip burgers at Mcdonalds.


I have a valid CDL also and I don't use drugs. Yes, I can see the logic behind making sure that a person in the transportation industry should be clean and sober. But I also think that if a truck driver went to Cancun on a two week vacation and wanted to smoke a joint it should be ok. As long as he is sober when he gets back behind the wheel it shouldn't matter what he did on vacation.


People can spot druggies pretty quick...and there are always random tests.


Wrong! People "think" they can spot druggies. I can gaurantee you that you work with, are related to, are friends with many people who do drugs on a regular basis and you have no idea that they do.


Unless you want a job in construction,entertainment (small venues),food service or self-employment any worthwhile job is likely to include a drug screen.


Lets just think about what kind of worthwhile jobs are available that DO NOT require a drug test. Hmmmm....

Lawyers, anyone in the Senate or the House of Reps, the President, teachers (some may have had 1 pre employment test), Engineers, writers, reporters, newspaper editors, bankers, mechanics, many many office jobs, etc. etc.

It's mostly the jobs that suck ass and are not that rewarding or worthwhile that test everybody. Like warehouse workers, production, construction (yes, even construction companies do it now), etc.

What I find interesting is that the USPS did a multi year study on whether recreational drug use actually caused problems in the work place. It was the biggest study done on this subject. The reason was to find out if it would be cheaper to pay for drug testing and get lower insurance rates or pay higher insurance rates and not pay for drug testing.

Now remember when this study was done it only tracked those employees who actually admitted to recreational drug use. But it showed that in job related injury that the recreational user had LESS accidents. It also showed that the recreational user had a better attendance record and a better workplace attitude. In fact the recreational user scored better or the same as their non-using counterparts.

Untill and unless the drug testing can get to the point to be able to pinpoint exactly when the drug was ingested and if the employee was actually under the influence at work, then all drug tests are an invasion of personal rights.

A positive drug test only reveals that a drug was ingested at some time in the past not that a person is "high" at the time of testing. Drug test are used to detect and punish conduct that is most always engaged in out of work and off the employer's property.

I don't even do drugs but yet I think drug testing is complete bullshit. But since so many people agree with it, and say it's needed to promote workplace safety. Maybe everybody should have those breathalizer things installed on their cars so then nobody drunk could start their car. And while we're at it, lets demand that all auto maunufacturers place "governors" on all cars so that no vehicle could be driven over 65 mph. I mean it's all about public safety, right?
 London Lass 59

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Oh dear, I cannot believe that you are asking these questions OP, and I am surprised at the number of responses to this rediculous thread, what are you people thinking???.......... Clearly your not, drugs have a habit of numbing the brain!!


You do drugs, what employer in their right mind would employ you???............next!!!
 cocytus

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Posted: 2/13/2008 8:49:19 PM

Wrong! People "think" they can spot druggies. I can gaurantee you that you work with, are related to, are friends with many people who do drugs on a regular basis and you have no idea that they do.


You should have read my earlier post.
I used to get high..quite a bit.
There may be some druggies that get by my "weedar"...but not many.
They either NEVER talk about drugs...(to the point of that being exceptionally odd)...or they never shut up about it. (VERY few in the middle of those extremes)



Unless you want a job in construction,entertainment (small venues),food service or self-employment any worthwhile job is likely to include a drug screen.

Lets just think about what kind of worthwhile jobs are available that DO NOT require a drug test. Hmmmm....

Lawyers, anyone in the Senate or the House of Reps, the President, teachers (some may have had 1 pre employment test), Engineers, writers, reporters, newspaper editors, bankers, mechanics, many many office jobs, etc. etc.


Don't where you're getting your info from little feller...but

1) Lawyers - Unless they go to work for themselves...or for a firm that represents mostly criminal defendants are going to be required to drug screen, attorneys are routinely screened.
And corporate attorneys or tax attorneys would be screened prior hiring on at a firm and be subject to random screens.
2) Government - While politicians may not necessarily be screened....they all receive annual checkups.The results of these checkups..while "private"..are in fact easily accessible by their enemies and the media.
The overwhelming majority are unlikely to place their political careers on the line by having drug use/abuse being revealed.
3) Teachers are subject to random testing.
4) Engineers are routinely screened pre-hire for almost firms and companies that hire them. I'm a skilled trades foreman,so I know a number of engineers.
VERY few of them would place their careers in jeopardy to get high ...especially those that are PE's (Professional Engineers) in one or more states.
The exception might a traveler...an engineer that works contract positions.
And even that is changing.
5) Reporters and newspapers editors - Are you serious? MOST newspapers are owned by conglomerates and they require pre-hire screening for all employees AND random testing.
The only exceptions might senior staff (corporate level who would likely be covered by a "morality clause" in their contracts) and union employees (only for the random testing...and even that would be a maybe)
6) Bankers - Are you REALLY serious? What type of bankers...those that OWN the banks?
It's unlikely that a financial corporation would get insurance or major clients w/o assurances that their staff was not at least screened at the pre-hire stage and that controls were in place to to account for random testing.
7) Mechanics - An area of which I DEFINITELY have firsthand knowledge.
Unless they are mechanics working for small repair shops or dealerships or they work for a small contractors the majority of mechanics are screened by their employers.
It would be a requirement to obtain certain types of insurance...for the company to become bonded...to avoid potential lawsuits...and to screen out marginal employees.
8) Office jobs - For a SMALL company, perhaps.But employee drug screening is a requirement for bonding and some types of insurance...so it wouldn't be Fortune 500 (or even 1000) company.

I didn't address writers as the number of working writers that earn a living from their writing, outside of a corporate environment, is statistically low.

Soooo...bottom line...unless you want to work for yourself...or small companies (w/ limited benefits)...you are likely to screened pre-hire for drug usage and potentially post-hire randomly or after accidents.
 Bloop_Ima_Feesh

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Oh dear, I cannot believe that you are asking these questions OP, and I am surprised at the number of responses to this rediculous thread, what are you people thinking???.......... Clearly your not, drugs have a habit of numbing the brain!!


You do drugs, what employer in their right mind would employ you???............next!!!




Im aware of that. Like I said, curiosity got the best of me. Im sure a majority of the younger population will experiment with drugs. Im not ever going to smoke it again, but I thought I could get some advice from ppl who knew more about it than I did.
 seaspot

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Posted: 2/14/2008 9:52:38 PM
You should have read my earlier post.
I used to get high..quite a bit.
There may be some druggies that get by my "weedar"...but not many.
They either NEVER talk about drugs...(to the point of that being exceptionally odd)...or they never shut up about it. (VERY few in the middle of those extremes)


I guess while you got high you never got past your own circle. You are a idiot to think even for one second that you can spot someone who does "drugs as a professional" because you used to get high. You "think" you can. But the fact is, you can't. Maybe a you can spot a junkie, but you never see the pro's.

People that are wacked on drugs are around you every day. You just never notice. You probably even say things like "that person has to be on drugs, did you see what they did?" Then you tell yourself that they MUST be on drugs.

They never talk about drugs? Thats your tip off? Or they never shut up about it? That means they have to be druggies? Thats it? That's your sure fired drug detecting scanner at work? Now that is really sad.

Are you insane!?!?! News flash!!! The majority of people in the U.S. do drugs! Look at the amount of people keeping the drug industry alive and kickin'. My god, man. The pharmaceutical companies aren't in business because people are sick and 'need' medicine. It's because people like to take drugs!


Don't where you're getting your info from little feller...but

1) Lawyers - Unless they go to work for themselves...or for a firm that represents mostly criminal defendants are going to be required to drug screen, attorneys are routinely screened.
And corporate attorneys or tax attorneys would be screened prior hiring on at a firm and be subject to random screens.
2) Government - While politicians may not necessarily be screened....they all receive annual checkups.The results of these checkups..while "private"..are in fact easily accessible by their enemies and the media.
The overwhelming majority are unlikely to place their political careers on the line by having drug use/abuse being revealed.
3) Teachers are subject to random testing.
4) Engineers are routinely screened pre-hire for almost firms and companies that hire them. I'm a skilled trades foreman,so I know a number of engineers.
VERY few of them would place their careers in jeopardy to get high ...especially those that are PE's (Professional Engineers) in one or more states.
The exception might a traveler...an engineer that works contract positions.
And even that is changing.
5) Reporters and newspapers editors - Are you serious? MOST newspapers are owned by conglomerates and they require pre-hire screening for all employees AND random testing.
The only exceptions might senior staff (corporate level who would likely be covered by a "morality clause" in their contracts) and union employees (only for the random testing...and even that would be a maybe)
6) Bankers - Are you REALLY serious? What type of bankers...those that OWN the banks?
It's unlikely that a financial corporation would get insurance or major clients w/o assurances that their staff was not at least screened at the pre-hire stage and that controls were in place to to account for random testing.
7) Mechanics - An area of which I DEFINITELY have firsthand knowledge.
Unless they are mechanics working for small repair shops or dealerships or they work for a small contractors the majority of mechanics are screened by their employers.
It would be a requirement to obtain certain types of insurance...for the company to become bonded...to avoid potential lawsuits...and to screen out marginal employees.
8) Office jobs - For a SMALL company, perhaps.But employee drug screening is a requirement for bonding and some types of insurance...so it wouldn't be Fortune 500 (or even 1000) company.


1. Hmmm... I personally know many and maybe a couple had to take 1 "one" test when they started.

2. Government- I can gaurantee that the reason none of their enemies get any info on drug use is because no drug test was ever performed. Geeze, what doctor would even want to do one when not necesary and then end his career?

3. Teachers are "subject to random testing"? Yea, so are cooks at Denny's. It never happens! Teachers get one drug test at the start, if that. The people always bow to the NEA, and they are about "tenure"! Untouchable! The schools are already exploding with costs. They can't afford drug testing. I personally know teachers that "party like rock stars" and laugh about drug testing. I know ALOT of teachers and they ain't like those old shriveled up prunes I had as a kid.

4. "Engineers are routinely screened pre-hire for almost firms and companies that hire them?" Hmmmm... "screened pre-hire" is the key phrase here. WOW! one test and your done? What if you build something that blows up? Do you get another drug test? Or is just the "pre-hire" test OK?

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Reporters and newspapers editors - Are you serious? MOST newspapers are owned by conglomerates and they require pre-hire screening for all employees AND random testing


I had to re-quote that one. Now that is just friggin funny. Oh yea, I am quite sure ALL of the reporters we watch on TV take drug tests. LMAO!!! Yea, riiight. Are you kidding? Even at the local level I see most of the writers in bars doin' things that are just not right.

I see your really on this whole "pre-screen" idea. Like that makes a difference. Randoms? Not an issue for the pro's.

6.Bankers? I don't know or care about whoever owned "the bank" but I know plenty of bank managers and the only way they know what a drug test is about is because they give it to their tellers.

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Mechanics - An area of which I DEFINITELY have firsthand knowledge.
Unless they are mechanics working for small repair shops or dealerships or they work for a small contractors the majority of mechanics are screened by their employers.


Are you even serious? Not even close! This is probably the biggest group of people I know that do "drugs". My god, this is just ridiculus. I personally know mechanics from the international level to the small shop, and I can't even count the number of parties I've been to where nobody seem to mind the use of drugs.

8. Office jobs? Are you serious? First of all office jobs are the lowest level worker around. They work for shit pay and they actually have a college degree but yet still have the worst job around. And yet you think their companies "drug test" them more than once? Why? Why would you kill half your workforce overnight?


Soooo...bottom line...unless you want to work for yourself...or small companies (w/ limited benefits)...you are likely to screened pre-hire for drug usage and potentially post-hire randomly or after accidents.


Pre-hire is a joke at best. Maybe post-hire, maybe. Depending on the job. Either way it means shit to anyone except the insurance companies.


Oh dear, I cannot believe that you are asking these questions OP, and I am surprised at the number of responses to this rediculous thread, what are you people thinking???.......... Clearly your not, drugs have a habit of numbing the brain!!


I'm thinking that the drug test are complete bullshit. The tests do not prove anything about IF the person was "high" at the time or not.

Clearly having a brain like a leeming has a way of allowing you to follow the pack.


You do drugs, what employer in their right mind would employ you???............next!!!


As for what employee would employ me? Quite a few really. But the offers I get are not what I want. They want me to actually show up more than three days a week.

I can mix some drinks but I don't do drugs. Almost everybody takes pills now days. You all are just a bunch of pill poppin' junkies. Somehow you all justify it because you think it's somehow 'better' than coccain, or pot, or X, or Acid, or heroine. The only reason you all druggies think this is because your "drug of choice" was given to you by a Doctor.

The funny thing is... I don't do drugs.
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Problems with Drug Tests
Posted: 2/15/2008 10:52:54 AM

Are you insane!?!?! News flash!!! The majority of people in the U.S. do drugs! Look at the amount of people keeping the drug industry alive and kickin'. My god, man. The pharmaceutical companies aren't in business because people are sick and 'need' medicine. It's because people like to take drugs!


Oh, puhleaaaaase. Medicines are different than abusing drugs, especially responsible use of medicine.

This is the most absurd thing I've heard. You want to be a hardliner against putting things in your body that is fine but don't sit there and say responsible use of medicine is anything like illegal drug use -- it is NOT and we have a multitude of laws for such.

It is not justified as better -- it's mostly a matter of humanity and treatment of medical conditions.

You say "I can mix some drinks but I don't do drugs." well, I have news for you, alcohol is a drug.
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