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 tkd4ever

Joined: 1/23/2008
Msg: 1
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Posted: 2/24/2008 8:41:24 AM
Polk County. Ladies in their late teens, early 20s. Divorced and with children. WTF?? I thought that age was a time for higher learning. Is it just me or are there tons of ladies here that have gone through these life experiences WAY too early?

I find it very surprising when ladies tell me that are 19 years old, divorced and have 2-3 children. Is there something in the water here?
 littlephishy

Joined: 1/1/2007
Msg: 2
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Posted: 2/24/2008 4:41:56 PM

Is there something in the water here?

Yes there is something in the water, it's called Alligators. Feel free to jump in and go for a swim.........
 tkd4ever

Joined: 1/23/2008
Msg: 3
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Posted: 2/24/2008 5:09:16 PM
Gator Hunting is not on my top 10 list of fun activities. But you go ahead though.
 littlephishy

Joined: 1/1/2007
Msg: 4
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Posted: 2/25/2008 1:59:54 PM
I was just going to let it go but these forums have been boring lately...lol
I'm not sure the OP has a grasp on my comment about swimming with the Gators. Nobody said anything about hunting Gators, I was referring that you should always swim where there's "something in the water" so you no longer make silly comments about pregnant teens, as you put it, WTF....How old was your mother when she made the mistake of having you?........
 DCinFL

Joined: 7/8/2007
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Posted: 2/29/2008 7:47:45 PM
im very curious to see how littlephishy explains his claim that the OP's comment about pregnant teens is silly?

the OP simply expressed concern that teen and early 20's women should be aquiring a higher education instead of getting knocked up and married so early.

are you trying to say we need more 20+- yo single mothers with multiple kids collecting food stamps and lacking a college degree?
 blondblueyed

Joined: 8/23/2005
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Posted: 3/2/2008 5:34:41 PM

im very curious to see how littlephishy explains his claim that the OP's comment about pregnant teens is silly?


Easy.

Teenage pregnancy has been a "growing" issue for many decades and the OP is only referring to half the problem. If tons of ladies in their early teens/twenties are divorced with children wouldn’t there also be tons of gentlemen also in their early teens/twenties that are divorced with children? I don’t think it is something in the water it appears to be something in the se(a)men.
 littlephishy

Joined: 1/1/2007
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Posted: 3/2/2008 6:41:25 PM

im very curious to see how littlephishy explains his claim that the OP's comment about pregnant teens is silly?

Most times it's not the topic that's silly but how it is presented. Does anyone believe for a minute that the OP is the least bit concerned about teenage pregnancy?
 DCinFL

Joined: 7/8/2007
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Posted: 3/2/2008 11:14:15 PM
blondb..........since i dont browse the male profiles, im really not sure, are there really a large amount of young single dads?

although i agree it takes 2 to tango and the problem is on both sides.........when it comes right down to it, the female is in 100% control of whether she becomes another teen pregnancy or not..........if she doesnt give it up, she doesnt get pregnant.
 blondblueyed

Joined: 8/23/2005
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Posted: 3/3/2008 5:19:27 PM

Most times it's not the topic that's silly but how it is presented. Does anyone believe for a minute that the OP is the least bit concerned about teenage pregnancy?


I agree, unless one is actually looking to fish in this age group pond.



blondb..........since i dont browse the male profiles, im really not sure, are there really a large amount of young single dads?


Hmmm, doesn’t a pool of young single mothers usually equate to a pool of young single dads? Unless, there has been a big rush to use sperm banks in recent decades that I haven’t read about.



when it comes right down to it, the female is in 100% control of whether she becomes another teen pregnancy or not..........if she doesnt give it up, she doesnt get pregnant.


Ah yes, one of those Neanderthals we hear so much about, I guess a few do still exist. Wonder if a young man would escape unscathed if he tried using that logic after he just happened to father your teenage daughter’s child. Hey man, she shouldn’t have said yes and she should have taken precautions.

While the female is 100% the one that is capable of becoming pregnant, she is only 50% to blame if it occurs. She can only “give it up” to a male that is willing and even if she or he used birth control it doesn’t always work. Not every single male is so conscientious about birth control on either side, not every single male bothers to even find out, ask or use it himself whether he is young or old. As you said it certainly does take two to tango and in most cases the only two that continue to tango through life are the mother and baby. By all means though, let’s focus on how all the young women are just slutty and stupid.


 littlephishy

Joined: 1/1/2007
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Posted: 3/3/2008 9:44:37 PM
Ah yes, one of those Neanderthals we hear so much about, I guess a few do still exist. Wonder if a young man would escape unscathed if he tried using that logic after he just happened to father your teenage daughter’s child

Come on, of course they wouldn't escape unscathed, anyone who would post a photo on a dating site holding an assault weapon certainly must be the type to withhold double standards.....I just hope if he has any male teenage children that they are neutered.
 meucci

Joined: 3/11/2008
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Posted: 3/24/2008 10:29:37 AM
[I don’t think it is something in the water it appears to be something in the se(a)men.]

lmao... couldn't help buy laugh at this one... love that answer.


but my personal opinion on it, it takes two flat out. reason for answer?!?!?

31 never had kids and never been married.

think I have been pretty good at being careful all my life and thinkin about my actions and the responsibility of my actions if the time were to come.
 whocareswhyimhere

Joined: 5/24/2006
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Posted: 3/24/2008 8:20:58 PM
It's something in the air down there.....
















their legs!!!
 DCinFL

Joined: 7/8/2007
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Posted: 3/25/2008 12:03:57 AM

Hmmm, doesn’t a pool of young single mothers usually equate to a pool of young single dads? Unless, there has been a big rush to use sperm banks in recent decades that I haven’t read about.


sorry for the confusion there, i didnt clarify.

i was referring to the person who is taking care of the children, IE lots of single moms with kids, but i dont see many single guys taking care of their children.

if a guy has bailed out on the woman and left her with the kids, i dont really consider him much of a "parent" in the first place.


Ah yes, one of those Neanderthals we hear so much about


besides your sad attempt at wit, you didnt say anything at all to even come close to refuting my statement.

obviously theres the >1% chance unplanned pregnancy can happen when birth control is used, but those people have already decided to have sex and therefore should be responsible for the concequences.

but you are talking about "after the fact" with people who have already decided to have sex, that is not the issue that i was commenting on.

my point is that, other than a case of rape, a woman is in 100% control of whether she decides to have sex or not, in the first place.


She can only “give it up” to a male that is willing


and how does that change the fact that she is still 100% in control of her decision to have sex?
are you suggesting that simply because a man is willing to have sex with her, that she suddenly loses the ability to make a decision for herself?

even if all the men in the world want to sleep with her, she alone holds the power to decide whether that happens or not, it is 100% within her power to refuse. (other than rape of course)


she shouldn’t have said yes


correct.
saying "no" is 100% her choice, and 100% guaranteed no pregnancy, regardless of how many willing men there are.


once a woman decides yes, she wants to have sex, then after that point, yes i agree it is a 50/50 responsibilty regarding the matters of birth control and making decisions ahead of time on how to deal with accidental pregnancy etc.
 blondblueyed

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Posted: 3/25/2008 6:13:57 AM
The OP was mainly dealing with supposedly “divorced” single mothers, so I am assuming that would mean that at one time the father was part of the “household” could possibly still be “involved” with the children. Nothing about “deadbeat Dads” was mentioned in the OP. It was brought up that it seems to be all on the females that at a young age it isn’t a time for marriage and children but for education and becoming an adult. What a few of us are trying to make clear is if this is happening to females it is also happening to the males that are involved as well.

It isn’t rocket science that even in the new millennium the majority of custodial parents are the mothers, always has been probably not a bad guess to think that for the most part it always will be that way.

The OP is about teenagers and for the most part so I wouldn’t hold too much credence to either sexes “thinking” much about anything before, during or after when it comes to “urges”. I doubt that very many of them even bothered with birth control. Hell, most adults don’t bother with it either and many don’t “think” when it comes to sex any more than a teen. That still doesn’t mean that especially in the case of teens that the total burden of “responsibility” should be thrust on the females. Most often I would say the scenario played out is that the boy tells the girl, “your special” blah blah blah , they mutually consent to sex and nothing is used because of course they are “in looooooove”. Right up until the time she shows him the positive EPT. Some males will step up and some won’t, simple as that. The ones that do in all liklihood no matter how well their “intentions” are they are just too young with too much on their plate to handle and the marriage ends. They are both divorced, they are both young single parents and they both got themselves into a sticky situation .
 Imtewalrus

Joined: 10/20/2007
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Posted: 3/26/2008 5:12:32 PM
Posted By: DCinFL on 3/3/2008 215 AM
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Message: blondb..........since i dont browse the male profiles, im really not sure, are there really a large amount of young single dads?

although i agree it takes 2 to tango and the problem is on both sides.........when it comes right down to it, the female is in 100% control of whether she becomes another teen pregnancy or not..........if she doesnt give it up, she doesnt get pregnant.

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A man is just as capable of putting a condom on as a woman is popping a pill in her mouth or keeping her legs shut. In fact, a man would be absolutely stupid these days to have sex without a condom, unless they are eithe rmarried or in a very long relationship, and can trust their partner. If a baby is born, then both parents are responsible for caring for the child, but somehow it seems more times than not it's the mother who gets stuck with more than her share of the responsibility, while the man is free to move on and inpregnate another woman. I think if any woman finds out the man she is dating isn't supporting their children from a prior relationship, that is a very good sign that you are dating a loser and you should move on, unless you want to find yourself in the same predictament he left his prior girlfriend/wife. Responsibility is big with me, and I don't see enough of it around.
 raiderfan18

Joined: 11/25/2007
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Posted: 3/29/2008 9:44:00 PM
Frankly I'm not exactly sure how many of these young women were actually ever married. What I'm seeing, and even in middle schools, is a lot of young women getting pregnant and having children. It is a problem and those children will usually grow up and repeat the process. I have taught so many children who have no father to speak of in their life. SAD.

It does take two to tango. A woman can say no, and a man can say no too. The ''gun'' guy seems to be saying that men are basically animals who can't control their lust, so it is left up to the women to deny the man sex. I'm sure many of the young men who fathered these babies probably feel the same way and it is not their fault they became fathers so they leave it up to the girls to raise the children.
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