| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 2/27/2008 3:42:48 PM | In Cuba where I was born they say traditional relationships still exsist since there is nothing . People would date or be together for true love.
When the woman from Cuba come to the states they want to split up quickly from the person due to money issues. 
In an economy course our professor indicated that we are living in a materialistic world unfortunately.
Are there any good woman out there. | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 2/27/2008 3:51:14 PM | yes there are many NON money grabbing women out there but unfortunately there are still many women out there obsessed with materialistic things and guys with too much money.
the same can be said for both sexes tho.
just look at the older and way too old male celebrities with much younger women who would not be see withing 6 inches of them if these men were not rich and living a glamourous life style. | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 2/27/2008 3:56:20 PM | Good response brother. I don't blame woman who are interested in money sometimes because I feel that it has to do with survival which that I can understand. They view us men with money with stability and are then comfortable to start a family.
Then you have the other type of women who try to get as much as they can from your wallet or even worse get you in debt.
I believe there are good woman out there I guess I am in the wrong places in the wrong time. | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 2/27/2008 3:59:20 PM | | I think the majority of people would rather marry for love than money. Unfortunately, financial problems can destroy a relationship. It takes both partners working together to overcome financial hardships. Having money doesn't guarantee a happy relationship but it sure gives you one less problem to have to overcome. I truly believe that most people would be perfectly satisfied with just being able to pay their bills and have a little nest egg to fall back on. But then, maybe I'm delusional. | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 2/27/2008 4:04:17 PM | My brother n law and sister do love each other and have been together for such a long time but do face financial difficulty together which I am very proud of them. 
Woman I have come accross if you have a nice car they will be all over you. 
But if you drive a lemon or a Honda Civic they treat you as though you are in a fast food restaurant. | |
|
| |
| |
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 2/29/2008 7:29:34 PM | sad but true........money buys good looking women.....always has, always will.............thats why it is called "the worlds oldest profession"
gold diggers are prostitutes in my opinion........they just collect their money up front in the form of dinner, jewelry, clothes, etc or whatever else that guy has to buy her to eventually get laid by a woman who otherwise wouldnt be seen in the same room as him if he didnt have $$$.
if both people are happy and ok with that arrangement, then more power to them, doesnt bother me a bit.
haha, now if only i could afford a few of them. | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 2/29/2008 7:42:14 PM | I can't speak for all women but for myself and any of my close friends, we want happiness. Although money can play a big role in the kind of lifestyle a woman wants to live, it doesn't mean anything if she has to sacrafice her personal happiness for it. I have been on my own since I was 16 and I like knowing I don't need a man to make it. I take care of my three children on my own, work, and go to school. I want a man that has good family values, not someone to pay my way. There are still many women out there that want memories more than money, you just have to look in the right places. *Hint**I do my grocery shopping on Thursdays at the local Wal-Mart neighborhood market* Maybe i'll see you there!! | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/2/2008 8:17:26 PM | My moto... You can't take it with you when you die.
I have gone throurgh my things atleast 3 x in the last 2
years getting rid of things I don't use any more.
I find that the more you own the more that owns you.
don't get me wrong, I have a house and it is furnished.
I just don't collect anything any more. If I'm not using
it, well maybe someone else would enjoy it.
Money isn't everything. I'd just like to find my mate to Love,
camp, hike, dance, fish, and hold my hand when I die.
camping_queen | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/2/2008 10:32:48 PM | I think that most people in our society aren't given a clear example of a happy lifestyle. They are also not provided a sense of duty and responsability that is necessary for people to stay together for a long time. I think most people that I have met are guided more by hedonistic values than anything else. They want a man with money so they will be provided with pleasures. Even those who want a relationship for love are often misguided in this same way.
Most people grow up seeing the only examples of "true love" as those on television which are usually displays of romantic or sexual love rather than "true love". "true love" has become a fable, some etheral fairy dust that someone should posses in order to stay with a partner. It is has become synonymous with constant pleasure or ecstacy. They don't look at the simple definition of "true love" as "faithful love" or one that is enduring. They need to look at the old couples to see what succeeds. That or look at the lifestyles of devout religious groups with low devorce rates. It is a common complaint with the current generation that they aren't willing to work for anything, they simply want everything given to them. These people, raised without the will to work hard, and not knowing how satisfying, in the long term, the payoff and the work itself can be, are reduced to relying on TV and their own base animal instincts to try to make themselves happy.
Since many people operate on this animalistic level, we can explain the selection of men with money as sexual partners or with good genetics easily in terms of animal behavioralism.
I think that following our nature by its design will never lead to satisfation or fullfillment long-term because we are not strongly monogomous animals but we do have that psychological need for family groups and monogomy societally. I think we can only achieve satisfaction by conditioning ourselves psychologically to want an achievable paradigm. For some, strong religious backgrounds may provide this paradigm.
Personally, I think that once you have dated someone you will go through that "in love" stage, and move on to friendship and love on a deeper level. The friendship and actually liking the qualities and interests of your partner are critical. Once you are there, you can get married, but at this stage your love for each other should be completely unconditional. You should know each other well enough to know that you are willing to offer that vulnerability and commitment. | |
|
| |
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/3/2008 7:38:56 AM | Well, I spent a year living with a woman who professed to "love" me. Seems she was behind in her bills. Had her cable cut off and they were coming to get her stove and ref. After I got them caught up and made all the monthy payments for her, she decided that we were not good for each other. Claimed that I spoke "negative" about her daughter. Well, I did try to find something positive about her daughter. I offered to take her to get a good paying job after her car broke down, but, she did not want to give up her "pot" to get a better job. She was able to find boyfriends, but, we had to hide our money because all of them were out of prison on felonies. Her son was failing in school. According to him, all students were failing (his second time in this class) and it was the teacher's fault. Of course, if I stated differently, I was giving a "negative" on this. I even paid off a bounced check so she would not end up in jail, but, of course, I was the one with negative thoughts. Now, after paying for everything, I guess I'm of no use to her anymore.
Where are the women who want a man for a man who is honest and not playing games? | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/3/2008 7:49:10 AM | I've never been one to care about money but I will say this ~ I will not support anyone either!! I've said many times that I would rather find true love and be poor than settle and be rich. No matter what anyone thinks, money does not buy true happiness or love ~ unless you are a hooker out on 42nd St...lol
It's 2008 ~ gone are the 1950s where women stayed home & were dependent on the men in their lives. Women should never rely on a man to support them ~ get an education and/or a job and support yourself!! Why would anyone want to be indebted to someone else, depend on someone for their every need or be treated like a child & handed an allowance?
That's my take!!
Peace, Love & Fat Girl Smooches,
Lisa | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/3/2008 1:29:34 PM | | I think the knee-jerk anti-housewife attitude is as just as sexist as those who believe a womans place is in the kitchen. Whether or not you like it, we all depend on others for things. Our society relies on division of labor. Why wouldn't this be the same in the home. I don't think a housewife is less of a person or has less rights than a wage earner. I think worldly and intellectual persuits are valid desires of both men and women. Just because there is a division of labor, that doesn't mean that one has to be a child. I have great respect for women who give up education and travel in order to raise children and keep a home as much or more than those who venture out into the workplace. It seems that hardworking homemakers have to receive slack from other women more than anyone else. If someone truely has a beliefe and a lifestyle, then they are not necessarily opressed. | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/3/2008 2:01:54 PM | I don't think someone would necessarily be opressed...but in my opinion ( and you know what they say about opinions) why would/should anyone rely on someone else for their well being. How often have we seen (and I'm sure we all know someone this has happened to) a husband die & the wife can't even balance a check book...heck, she can't even write a check!!
If we are talking gold diggers...more power to you if that is how you choose to live your life but I can't imagine waking up to someone every day just because they have money ~ can you imagine waking up next to The Donald every day....lordy, I would worry about choking to death on sweep over!! | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/8/2008 9:23:32 PM |
I think that most people in our society aren't given a clear example of a happy lifestyle. They are also not provided a sense of duty and responsability that is necessary for people to stay together for a long time. I think most people that I have met are guided more by hedonistic values than anything else. They want a man with money so they will be provided with pleasures. Even those who want a relationship for love are often misguided in this same way.
Amen brother! Amen!
sad but true........money buys good looking women.....always has, always will.............thats why it is called "the worlds oldest profession"
You wann know just how true this statement is?
Go to a boat show... Start at the smaller boats and count the 8+'s you see and then count the 4's or below. Then go over to the mega yachts and do the same thing.
A buddy pointed it out to me at the 2006 boat show in Ft. Lauderdale... it was true this year at the Miami show as well.
Another friend of mine has a car lot. One night we went to the Blue Martini in his convertible Jag and the women wouldn't event talk to him. The next night in his Ferrari and these same women were climbing all over him... and I mean the very same women. He just blew them off and we went on in but I was like "Damn! How shallow and transparent can they be!"
Thankfully not all women behave that way but it was a REAL eye opener for me... and just further proved why you should drive a normal car... find a woman who wants you for you! | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/9/2008 5:30:23 PM | EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM I AM THANKFUL FOR YOUR OPINIONS CONTINUE.
In reference to boat show, I came from Cuba in a old fishing boat back in the 80's. I came as a new born not as a grown up. If I would have come in that era as an adult I am today it would have been better.
People in the 80's thought different and not as many 'Gold Diggers' as there is today.
Yesterday I went to a the theater to see 10,000 B.C. , which was awesome but a 70 year old man was with a hot 24 year old. My friends and I were amazed at this old man. That young lady dragged him threw out the theater like a rag doll!
Wow! | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/11/2008 1:59:41 AM | Welllllll it COULD have been his great, great granddaughter! 
I just gotta ask... what kind of a older man needs a little girl to date? I mean hell, you wanna woman under the age of 45 to change her mind just wait 5 minutes!
Nah, give me an older woman with some living under her belt and someone who's biological clock is not screaming BABY NOW!!!!
<div class='quote'>gone are the 1950s where women stayed home & were dependent on the men in their lives.
What a horrible thing to say... women didn't stay home in the 50's because they were dependent on the men in their lives they stayed home to raise families, to take care of their children.... my mom was one of those and I promise you she was not dependent on my Dad. It was a partnership. It was a choice based on a higher set of values than we have today.
If they were so wrong in their approach perhaps you can explain the higher divorce rates we have today, or the higher crime statistics, the larger number of drop outs, the more drunk drivers, the more drug abusers, the more teen pregnancies, the more pedophiles etc. etc. etc.
Staying home full time is hard demanding work. Its a selfless, thankless job that never ends... and the last thing stay at home moms (or dads need) is someone making comments like they were weak because they couldn't stand up to their man or they didn't have choices. They had them and they chose differently than you did.
a husband die & the wife can't even balance a check book...heck, she can't even write a check!!
Or when the wife dies you have husbands who can't cook, clean or do laundry. Again, they made choices based on partnerships. Sure it came home to bite them but I haven't met a single woman who didn't figure out how to survive or a single man who didnt learn how to cook for himself... and I certainly have never heard any of these people voice one seconds regret for the choices they made. | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/11/2008 9:39:17 PM | Lisa makes some good points. I guess you take her opinions according to your own point of view. There are definitely gold diggers out there but I think it goes both ways. Be thankful to the old guys that are getting the gold diggers because you really don't want them wasting your time, do you?
Lisa makes a good point that women should take care of themselves. It's fine if you want to raise a family and stay at home, but who says you can't do something on the side to ensure that should something happen to the primary bread winner, you won't have to struggle much to get on your feet? I am all for women getting degrees and having a career. I am completing my MBA and depend on myself. Its interesting how many messages I get from men in their 40s who have little or no education and think a $8.50 an hour job is a great thing. I definitely agree with Lisa, I am not going to support someone and at the same time, I am not looking for someone to support me.
I think people set themselves up to fail. If you are wanting a certain type of lady to be in a relationship with, then look in places she is apt to be found in. Bars and clubs are for going out and having a good time. It's not likely you will find your soul mate there so don't be surprised when you find the gold diggers and women you really aren't interested in pursuing a relationship with there. | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/12/2008 5:52:05 AM | gone are the 1950s where women stayed home & were dependent on the men in their lives.
What a horrible thing to say... women didn't stay home in the 50's because they were dependent on the men in their lives they stayed home to raise families, to take care of their children.... my mom was one of those and I promise you she was not dependent on my Dad. It was a partnership. It was a choice based on a higher set of values than we have today.
If they were so wrong in their approach perhaps you can explain the higher divorce rates we have today, or the higher crime statistics, the larger number of drop outs, the more drunk drivers, the more drug abusers, the more teen pregnancies, the more pedophiles etc. etc. etc.
It is Sad that women don't stay home to raise there kids and that people don't stay together. Our kids would not be so screwed up. To bad that reto life style doesn't come back around. | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/12/2008 5:14:34 PM | Camping queen. One thing happened back in 1973 that forced women to work. That was the gas prices going out of control and we were not used to it. It also sent the prices of everything sky high and the minimum wage was still the same. That's when women found part time or even full time jobs. Men could not keep up with the rising costs of things when they were not getting any pay raises to compensate for the rising costs. Then, we had a thing call "Women's Lib". They bruned their bras, etc. Wanted equal treatment in the job area. The "demanded" that they be given the same jobs and pay as men. Even in the military of which I'm retired, things started to change. Women pilots and aircraft maintenance women. Of course, you don't really have to start in 1973. Between WWII and then, women did stay in homes and raise the kids (I still hope it goes back to that because of the kids). Read history and you'll find "Rosey the Rivitor" when the men were off to war in the 1940's.
I agree that no matter how we think these days about women working, the kids are the ones that are being neglected. As far as the divorce rate goes, that is one topic that might be open to a bucket of worms. In the 1950's, women could be abused and if they got a divorce, they had no money, good paying job, etc. so they stayed maried. Now, they can get a divorce for any reason (men too). They say they think about the kids when they get divorced, but, they don't. The thing to do is to work out problems and if one is straying in the wrong direction (or both), that one needs to find the right path.
So, if we have women feeling all this new found freedom or the younger generation that has grown up with it, how do you even attempt to change it? The government (and I believe it was), put the pinch on our money in 1973. Women put the pinch on themselves when they demanded equal treatment (of which I believe they should have). Again, how the heck do we change what we've created without women feeling that they are back to barefoot and pregnant?
Boy, this is a good topic for discussion LOL | |
|
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/12/2008 5:55:10 PM |
It is Sad that women don't stay home to raise there kids and that people don't stay together. Our kids would not be so screwed up. To bad that reto life style doesn't come back around.
Actually it IS coming back around... todays young ladies want an education... they want the OPTION of a career but mostly they want a man who will be a good provider so they can stay home and raise a family. I have a 21 year old daughter and thats been the position of her and her friends for as long as they have been able to discuss the issue.
I agree that no matter how we think these days about women working, the kids are the ones that are being neglected
But what happens when the man stays home? The woman looses respect for him then she wants a divorce so she can marry a "real man". Twice I have seen the womans career take off and her and her husband agree that he would become "Mr. Mom" and then within two years she is wanting a divorce (lost respect for him) and is angry becuse "all he wants is MY money!"
Women put the pinch on themselves when they demanded equal treatment (of which I believe they should have).
Oh Amen to all of that! Women deserve equal rights and equal treatment. This also means that men should have custody half the time. Women should pay alimony and child support as much as men. Women should ask men out as often as men do women. Women should pick up the check as often as women do. There should be no more "ladies nights" in bars. There should be no more "ladies half off Tuesdays" at Jiffy Lube. etc. etc. etc.
Now... you find a woman who wants equal rights and who also wants the above list... LOL Maybe... Just MAYBE you'll find a handful in the entire country.
Most women don't really want equal rights, they want their cake and eat it too. 
Afterall, when was the last time you saw women protesting in front of a bar because they have ladies night... which is CLEARLY sexist exploitation!
Men will not be free until women have full equal rights!!!  | |
|
| |
| Are woman interested in money more than a good a descent relationship.
Posted: 3/12/2008 9:25:16 PM | I don't think women working is the sole reason you have high divorce rates and kids out of control. It takes 2 people to make a baby and that means 2 people are responsible for the outcome. Regardless of whether the mom or dad works or stays home, if values are not taught at home, then you have kids in trouble. When I grew up, adults were respected and parents backed up those in authority. You don't see that today. Kids do whatever they want and people let the tv, video games, or whatever the child is interested in raise their kids instead of taking responsibility for them. That happens whether mom works or stays at home. Don't blame the mess kids are in on the fact the women are now working. Try looking at the bad advice people took from good old Dr Spock who said not to discipline, there is where your problem starts with unruly kids.
The divorce rate is another issue that has nothing to do with women working. You may have isolated incidences where a woman became successful and maybe decided her marriage wasn't working but that is not the case for the majority of women working. To imply would be the same as saying all middle aged men divorce their wives and run off with 20 year olds. Some do but the majority of them do not. Maybe all of these early marriages and people rushing off to start families was not such a good idea. Taking the time to get to know someone would certainly reduce the divorce rate. People should try to work things out but I sure would not stick around and be someone's punching bag either. Yes, a good topic for discussion but you have to wonder if anyone is really listening. Minds seem to be made up here.
So back to the original question . .yes, there are still some women who are interested in a good decent relationship. It must include mutual respect for one another and that is the key to making any relationship last. Good luck in your search. | |
|
Home
login 
