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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/2/2008 12:36:52 PM
Im a big fan of John Mccain I must say. I have a great deal of respect for him. Anyone who can survive 5 years as a POW has earned my respect. I consider him an American hero. My only problem is that he is to dam old to be president. If elected he would be the oldest president ever sworn in. With the kind of stress someone in that posistion is under is he to old?
 scotterpop

Joined: 8/23/2007
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/2/2008 1:48:14 PM
I don't think he's too old to be president. I think he's too Bush-like to be president. But he's in good company because Nader is also seventy three. HMMMM.
 floridianfool

Joined: 2/21/2008
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/2/2008 1:53:19 PM
I will take John Mccain over that obama guy anyday and yessssssss I am a democrat.
 lonesomewolf

Joined: 1/12/2008
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/2/2008 2:39:47 PM
too old?not at all.the rest remains to be seen.
 upforadventure

Joined: 6/27/2007
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/2/2008 3:23:39 PM
I'd be worried more about the fact that he's nuttier than a squirrel turd.
 littleaudrey

Joined: 1/17/2008
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/3/2008 6:09:05 AM
When electing someone as ancient as McCain, pay very close attention to who his VP is. I'm an Obama supporter myself, but I would never elect someone very elderly if I did not like their vice president. You have to be realistic about the chances of someone as old as McCain dying in office. I would say those chances are pretty good, honestly. Let's say the average age of death for men in America is 75. McCain only has a few more years to go, and he doesn't exactly look like the picture of health if you know what I mean.
 Wolves-Lower

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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/3/2008 7:29:04 AM
IF McCain wins he will be a one term President.
He will have to pick his VP carefully.
I like McCain. He is far from GOP in my mind.
But if he got the nod for President I would think he could be dangerous. He is already a Maverick.
 Randy13x69

Joined: 2/27/2008
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/3/2008 12:46:04 PM
Not too old, just to stupid.
 Crash1967

Joined: 6/2/2007
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/3/2008 3:48:21 PM
Too old? Lets see, it seems that as long as you can get it up or be totally insane that's all you need to be president and since it looks like he's got both bases covered who cares how old he is?
 scotterpop

Joined: 8/23/2007
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/3/2008 4:07:25 PM
He's a fine leader for the Grand Old Party.
 bob0colo

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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/3/2008 4:18:33 PM
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McCain should chose Jeb Bush or Billy Bush...he looks great on TV... and can dance.
 evnstevn

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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/3/2008 5:00:21 PM
I think he'd have the best chance if Huckabee is his VP. He could offset McCain in the age thing and several other areas.

 cocytus

Joined: 11/9/2007
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/3/2008 9:14:11 PM
Yes...he probably is too old.
He's survived cancer,yes.... but health issues for 70+ year old man that was held prisoner for 5 1/2 years should be a concern.

Here's a scenario:McCain is elected and suffers a stroke within his first year in office.
He can still function but his mobility is limited.
Does he get replaced by his VP?
Do you wait and see what's going to happen?

Or if he suffers a hear attack?
Or the onset of Alzheimer's?

If people take off their blinders and look back.....they can probably remember how disoriented Reagan was in his last years in office.
Is that something we need again?

IMHO, unless the person was an unusual specimen of vigor and vitality,it doesn't make a great deal of sense to elect someone for whom the stressful office of the Presidency might be too much to handle.
There are some things that you can be too old to do.
 Montreal_Guy

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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/4/2008 6:50:48 AM
I certainly think he may be, as much as I admire the man's history in many ways.

In a Facebook, iPod world, he's not the best model for change , imho.

Just look at how much the job has aged a guy like Bush.

As a senior statesman, he's certainly still in the running. As President, especially running against an opponent like Obama (given he gets the chance) it may in fact be a liability. He will, simply by comparison with him, look even older.
 Byrd

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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/4/2008 10:54:49 AM
Oh yea that would be good a Bush as vice president so when Mccain strokes out we could have another Bush in the white house I don't think he's too old but from what I hear he does have one hell of a temper which could cause him to stroke out..I met the man many years ago I'm still undecided and he's more likley to get my vote than anyone else provided he doesn't have a Bush as a vice president.
 HarveyLemmings

Joined: 2/18/2008
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/4/2008 12:41:03 PM
McCain seems to be healthy for his age and, most importantly, has all of his mental faculties in place.
 Suthn_Boy

Joined: 7/17/2006
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/4/2008 1:20:46 PM
Not to mention the fact that most of McCain's political methods are wrong, as well as ever-changing with the direction of the wind, but simply considering his age AND his health, he's NOT a good gamble in office.

We're not electing a VP (whomever) to replace him when the time comes. We're electing him, as President for four long years. Which really amounts to electing Bush for a third term. There were several MUCH better options among the Republicans. His current status is astonishing!

Why is it that just a year ago, he was given no chance at all, not even a prayer. But now, he is the top-runner? He is all but the nominee, at this stage. And sure to become that.

Keep in mind too that he has ethical blemishes on his record and only a few short years ago, stood pecariously close to being ousted from the Senate, along with the others involved in the Keating-Five scandal, who were.

That's the Straight-Talk Express for you. Think about it..

-Suth'nBoy

 Randy13x69

Joined: 2/27/2008
Msg: 18
Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/4/2008 1:27:30 PM
Mental faculty's are failing. Didnt you know he supports preemptive war? Proof right there.
 HarveyLemmings

Joined: 2/18/2008
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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/4/2008 2:33:26 PM

Mental faculty's are failing. Didnt you know he supports preemptive war? Proof right there.


I'm sure that causes quite the uproar in the MoveOn.org chat room, but I'm being serious. However you feel about his politics, there's no physical reason John McCain cannot become the next president.
 Larissan04

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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/4/2008 2:49:13 PM
chrisinpa~

first of all, age is simply NOT a valid premise here. there are many many examples of people in thier twilight years achieving great feats. for christ's sake frank lloyd wright designed the gugenheim when he was well into his 80's! I could go on and on and on... stanely marcus ran the nieman marcus company well into his 90's, and nieman's has been one of the most well respected and successful retailers... milton friedman was still teaching at universtiy of chicago well past mccain's age... and how about noam chomsky? he's still touring, writing, and teaching... he's in his early 80's now and still going strong... these are just a couple examples... the list could go on and on...

just because someone is older doesn't neccesarily mean that they are mentally deficient. in truth the opposite is usually true. the elderly knwo a hell of a lot more then you or i do simply by virtue of the fact that they have been on the planet longer! don't causually dismiss thier contributions! to do otherwise is to perpetuate some of the most disgusting bigoted statements one could ever utter...why? because the nice thing about old age is that all of us will be there someday... if we're lucky that is... and the biases that we perpetuate in our youth will be the very biases that we will have to live with when we are old...

do you want to be viewed as disposible? do you want to be fired or turned down from a job simply because you are approaching retirement years?

well i don't.

we have become this youth worshiping culture, and it is really disgusting. i mean, i am a student, and i work with these "young people" every damn day. it boggles my mind how someone who is 19 could be such an authority on pretty much everything from economics and health care, to foreign policy and domestic policy... i could go on and on and on.. never have i seen a generation that is so full of its self... so consumed with it's self advancement yet so entitled to everything... the thing is, a kid who just sprouted his first chest hair, or pube 6 months prior really has very little to say which hasn't already been said... and even they are parroting, they misquote people anyway!

anyway... that is my rant for the day... your whole post is insulting and smacks of agism.

:)

lar

god bless the wisdom of the grey haired...
 Larissan04

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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/4/2008 3:04:10 PM
randy~

it's "mental faculties," not "mental faculty's".

lar
 Dean Moriarty

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Is John Mccain to old to be president.
Posted: 3/5/2008 7:58:38 AM
When I see him, I remember what Ken Kesey wrote on the side of his bus when driving around Phoenix in 1964: "A vote for Goldwater is a vote for FUN".

Another Merry Prankster
 cocytus

Joined: 11/9/2007
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Posted: 3/5/2008 11:08:26 AM

first of all, age is simply NOT a valid premise here. there are many many examples of people in thier twilight years achieving great feats. for christ's sake frank lloyd wright designed the gugenheim when he was well into his 80's! I could go on and on and on... stanely marcus ran the nieman marcus company well into his 90's, and nieman's has been one of the most well respected and successful retailers... milton friedman was still teaching at universtiy of chicago well past mccain's age... and how about noam chomsky? he's still touring, writing, and teaching... he's in his early 80's now and still going strong... these are just a couple examples... the list could go on and on...


Lloyd-Wright,Freidman,and Chomsky are, and were, working in positions w/ relatively LOW levels of stress.
And none were running governments w/ a dissatisfied opposition and numerous domestic and foreign issues on their plates.
So...they really can't be used for comparison, can they?

No one is saying that older people are mentally deficient.
At least I'M not.

But to elect an older person who has existing health issues to a stressful position is usually NOT a wise idea.
I'm only 42...but I don't think it would be a good idea for me to try out for shortstop (or cornerback) for a pro (or even semi-pro) athletic team.
I'd have a hard keeping up...if I could even do it.

The same would be for me to attempt to go to medical school and become a doctor.
Could I do it?
Maybe...but it would be MUCH harder than it would have been 20 years ago.

John McCain is 71...going on 72.
He'd be 76/77 when he got out of office.
He's had cancer...and he was abused and starved for 5 1/2 years in a POW camp.
Those facts alone make it a miracle he's even still alive.

Add an extremely stressful job at a time in our history that's going to challenge ANYBODY that is elected to the Presidency and I'm sure you can see where there'd be some concern.
 cotter

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Posted: 3/5/2008 12:15:04 PM

... and, most importantly, has all of his mental faculties in place.
That's what everyone thought about Reagan too. He was 70 when he took office and quite delusional. He really believed that the Berlin wall came down because in 1987 he told Gorbachev to tear down the wall.

LMFAO ... I lived over there for 10 years prior to that. Anyone who lived there knew that there was no way the Soviet Union could continue their presence in East Germany much longer. We all knew that they had not invested one thin dime in the reconstruction of East Germany since the war. The housing that was there was crumbling ... the few new homes that were built were also crumbling due to poor building material.

The Germans are among the best farmers in the world, but under the direction of the Soviets, the East German crops continued to fail so miserably that the West Germans and the Americans were constantly having to subsidize them. The Soviets would not furnish the East Germans with the machinery needed to manage their crops. The few crops they managed to get into the ground could barely be harvested ... no equipment. Crops like onions were harvested way too early because they needed them ... didn't have time to allow the onions to mature to the proper size before harvest. East Germany could not even feed it's own people.

We all knew that wall would be tumbling down soon. LMAO ... Reagan had nothing to do with it. Anyone at all who knows the signs and symptoms of Alzheimer's knows that he was displaying it way before they told us he had the disease.

Is McCain too old ... YES!!! And even if he weren't too old ... he's just as much a war monger as Bush. That's just what we need right now ... another freaking war monger in office ...
 Larissan04

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Posted: 3/5/2008 12:26:54 PM
cocytus~

oh, yeah, right. low levels of stress? i don't know, i think chomsky looks pretty stressed out to me. but i guess traveling the country with a multitude of speaking engagements, teaching classes, writing books, AND remaining at the forefront of poltical discourse wouldn't be stresseful.... i guess it demonstrates an activity level that you obviously do not think someone in their 80's is capable of. i completely disagree. you are underestimating those over age 65, and frankly your assertions are quite bigoted. i have known plenty of people age 70 and over who were sharp as a tack, and still engaged in thier careers.

i noticed how you left out stanely marcus, which is an interesting exclusion. you know, i saw him speak back in the 90's. he was a remarkable man, and he was at the time, yes, in his 90's. he's long gone and dead now, but he ran that company for years, and he did so right up until about age 92. he was 96 when he died.

don't forget about john quincy adams. he lived well into old age, and served in congress very succesfully right up until the very day he died. as a matter of fact, he collapsed right there on the floor of the house, and died two days later in the speaker's chambers. he was 81. of course that was well over a hundred years ago when life expectancy was almost half of what it is today...

i would hate to work for you. you'd probably fire somebody the minute they hit 65, and probably woulnd't hire a person over age 50. people like you make me sick. but no worries, someday you'll be treated like a disposible cast away too... that is how we treat the elderly in this country... the most knowledable, experienced, and valuable people in our society...so i guess you are in lock step with the current "think."

stress? yeah, look how well hilary has held up under the rigours of the prmiary campaigning. yet, i suppose you'd consider her more eligible for president then mccain simply by virtue of being younger.

here's a link for you...

http://www.inc.com/8over80/

lar
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