| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/4/2008 10:20:36 PM | This is just way too funny....
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Voters in two Vermont towns on Tuesday approved a measure that would instruct police to arrest President George W. Bush and Vice President****Cheney for "crimes against our Constitution," local media reported.
Isn't it Germany that has issued arrest orders for Rummy? Any other stories like this folks know of? | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/4/2008 10:25:24 PM | | It rocks my socks. I think, even though it was a way of speaking up, I'm glad they did it. I wish more would. I wish, too, that we would have done something like this a long time ago to show them our disapproval. They don't seem to think there has ever been any wrong doing. The public thinks otherwise. Good on them! | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 3:48:20 AM | | None of our presidents have been or will be perfect. I don't think they realize how ill equiped they are for the job until they get there and then because they have hired all the people who worked in their campaign, they found friends who were repaid with a job--that is called croneism--not necessiarly the people intelligent enough to do any any advising. It has gone down hill since Ike. Sadly, only the rich can get elected and they have no clue about what the rest of the nation faces, lack of medical care/medicines/insurance, lack of food and shelter, etc. Even with all our poverty programs, we have truly needy people. We try to solve the rest of the world's problems, we fight their wars or try to finish them (Vietnam, thank you France), we loan them money they never pay back and once they get what they want, we become the enemy. Go figure. | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 5:28:33 AM | | I'd be rather curious to know if there are any specific allegations as to what criminal offenses have been committed. After all, doesn't the Constitution require that a person be advised of the crime alleged to have been committed? | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 10:32:05 AM | Interestingly enough Lostcauz, one of the things that he should be brought before a court on is exactly what your talking about, being told what you are charged with, which right he revoked with his declaration that he can do whatever he wants to ANYBODY simply by stamping "enemy combatant" on their forehead....
You can start here ;
http://www.motherearth.org/bushwanted/laws.php
http://bushcrimes.net/
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/cahBCF.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/impeacharticles.html | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 3:50:42 PM | OK, if we want to raise a question: after all that went on with Clinton--why elect his wife?
Not promoting either side, but if there were issues with him, will she be better?
Just a question. | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 3:56:29 PM | The comparison of the Clinton impeachment followed by the crimes of Bush will be great reading for poli-sci/history students for years to come. It shames us that Bush and his buds will get away with all the things they've done.
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 5:21:17 PM |
OK, if we want to raise a question: after all that went on with Clinton--why elect his wife?
The man lied about getting a blow job...
Not quite as bad as lying to invade a country, setting up secret camps overseas, and basically acting like he is above the law...
And besides, what does Clintons wife have to do with what her husband did as thats like holding you accountable for things your sister/brother did... | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 5:51:53 PM | Monica is not what I am talking about. Whitewater and all the deaths involved with primary players. A woman who went to jail rather that tell what she knew and all therest. It is in all administrations..............and so it goes.
Just because the man was not faithful was not the point to me. | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 6:00:49 PM | Whitewater was a witch hunt by a zealous Republician proscuter who proved nothing...
The lady who went to jail did so because she refused to testify, which is a right granted under the Constitution... | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 6:10:18 PM | How you can compare Whitewater, alleged murders of a few rich white people, or even a BJ to what Bush and co have done is beyond me, but way to stay on the party line.....lord knows what "all the rest" must be....
turn up Rush and make sure you don't really look around..... | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 6:20:25 PM | "And besides, what does Clintons wife have to do with what her husband did as thats like holding you accountable for things your sister/brother did..."
I'd agree with that... but isn't Hillary the one who is wanting to claim that all that time around Bill as 'experience' that qualifies her to be president?
If she wants to claim that she's knows how to be President from watching him then I guess we all know what to expect... some intern with an interesting stain on his tie.
Joking...
Really... | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 6:43:03 PM | Agreed, so you must be against the occupation of Iraq, torture (especially when it results in a death), and the death penalty no?
When you invade another country (which is ALWAYS illegal if you buy into that international law, geneva convention stuff) people die....
(notice how I didn't say war there, as that would be between 2 armies) | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 6:51:50 PM | Jail time...never......Bush and Cheney have insulated themselves with the flag and played on the fears of americans in order to escape some real responsility......their
answers to any charges will be "We were only protecting american lives".....and they will never face a court of law.....It's amazing how these two bozos got re-elected.....testiment to those who elect these war mongers...you want them you get them. | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 7:11:07 PM | Hell,while we're at it,why not just arest everyone whose politics we don't agree with.We can bring them into court on charges we know are false,Drill them rigorously for days,find a small discrepency in their story.and than sent them to prison.Or we could Get the ACLU to sue the whole republican party for thought crimes against Humanity.We can take it all the way to the supreme court,and have all republican activity declared unconstitutional(wait,we will have to wait for another former head of the ACLU to be appointed,but that won't take long if the election goes the right way.
Then while we are at it we can go after those pesky christians,and anyone who doesn't believe in evolution.
And if all goes well,we can just open our borders ,Give up our nation status and become a state in a wonderful socialist utopia ruled by the UN.after all,if there is only one government,there will be no one to go to war with.and every body will be forced to share their wealth.untill we all have the same amount of money and the world will be perfect.Woo Hoo!!!!
Come on Guys,I Don't like him either.But lets get back to reality. | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 7:36:49 PM | This isn't about likeability. This is about crimes against humanity, invading a soverign nation, bankrupting a country, the use of torture approved at high levels, erosion of our rights, illegal wire taping (which seems to be getting worse by the day- http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gxSQM-Pj5GvDDx_r9HNZvtF6JAGgD8V7HN7O0), deciet....
Your minimization of these acts is what is wrong with this country. Throw around socialist like its a bad word all you want. Only those still functioning with their reptillian brain are buying that argument anymore.... | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 8:03:59 PM |
Agreed, so you must be against.........
I am sure you are intelligent, but don't assume you can deduce what anyone is thinking about everything based on a statement made about one thing. I happen to think war is horrific. I don't like abortion, I don't like the death penalty but then thata criminal gave no choice to the person he murdered. He deserves a more humane life? There are always two sides and several angles to any problem.
I only choose to debate with reasonable people who can keep their head and wits about them. When people begin to shout, the valid points are lost and only the noise is heard.
These forums are for polite discussion not name calling and diatribes.
I was in college during Vietnam. My parents lived through WWII and Korea, my grandparents through WWI. I understand more about war because I have witnessed more of it. It is always begun for a convoluted reason.
And I will match my reptillian brain against your one sided one any day but I choose no war with you. Your responses do not support the Indian side (peacful) that your profile shows. | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 8:26:43 PM | well,I guess it just depend on whose propaganda you read.But face it.If there were a basis in reality,as much as Bush is hated by the opposition.Especially with a democratic Majority in the senate.I think they would have found a way to get it done.
But it is all a conspiracy right?
But keep talking.more people need to see the kind of thinking that is out there. | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/5/2008 8:34:06 PM | Wow. Thats what I get for agreeing with your blanket statement, guess I thought you knew what you were typing when you typed it. I'm not "indian" either BTW but half Jewish and European mutt. The Jewish side saw some nasty stuff and taught me to speak up to ignorance or get loaded onto the cattle car, thus my replies to your posts....
Oh, and BTW, not everybody who is put to death has killed somebody, or even committed a crime for that matter, something we can't say about Bush et al. Perhaps you should pay a little more attention than assuming you understand more about whatever just because of things you, your parents, and grandparents lived through. | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/6/2008 3:41:26 AM | I think I have lived more, learned more and know more through the world of life experiences around me and that is not to minimize yours. My first husband was Jewish, I understand those issues. I was raised Catholic in California and brought to the south, pre-seg. Let me tell you how it is to have playmates at school but they are not allowed to play with you in the neighborhood because you are a heathern-Catholic in the Baptist Bible Belt, a foreigner-last I heard California was in the US and other nasty names because my mother was divorced. People made assumptions about my race because of dark curly hair. I didn't sound like everyone else. Issues are all over this melting pot. Not everyone is treated fairly, not everyone gets their way.
I don't think anyone ever tried to load you into a cattle car. I agree what happened to the Jews in WWII and the problems since Bibical times are horrific. But you forgot one thing, Jews weren't the only ones who died. Most statistical breakdowns I have seen list the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust with estimates to vary from around 4.1 to 6.0 million, with more recent research supporting an even higher figure. Hilberg's Destruction of the European Jews gives a detailed breakdown of Jewish deaths. It is estimated that another 5-6 million non-Jews (Gypsies, homosexuals, prisoners of war - especially Russians - were killed during the Holocaust period). It was not totally a Jewish issue. Hitler whose grandmother was a Jew wanted everything not to his ideal of perfection to be destroyed. Funny, he thought perfect was blonde, blue eyed and fair skinned and intelligent. He was a wallpaper hanger/painter and anything but blonde.
Things get taken out of context. The US gets blamed for the Vietnam war--you were born during it--I was in HS and college at the time. France started it, we assisted, they bailed and we got hung.
Don't tell me I am ignorant
The Jewish side saw some nasty stuff and taught me to speak up to ignorance or get loaded onto the cattle car, thus my replies to your posts.... because I don't happen to agree with all you say.
not everybody who is put to death has killed somebody, or even committed a crime for that matter I work in government law, I think I understand that. My point was, we have no right to take a life and the majority of murder-prisioners on death row are pleading for theirs--as I am sure their victims did. You failed to see the point.
Perhaps you should pay a little more attention than assuming you understand more about whatever just because of things you, your parents, and grandparents lived through. You may still be a rebel when you reach my age (yes, I used that horid phrase), but you may also learn that reasonable conversation and strategy works better than war mongering(which you preach against), yet use so easily in conversation. What we all live through makes us who we are.
The photo of you and the child does not represent you as you totally are
I'm not "indian" either BTW but half Jewish and European mutt any more than you can assume who I am based on one statement.
guess I thought you knew what you were typing when you typed it. My apology. I was not totally clear in my statements, but then my second mistake was to assume you were wise beyond your years and inadvertely gave you credit for the wisdom garnered by having lived longer and experienced more of the world around than me.
Bottomline, having lived through Harry S Truman, 1945-53 (Democrat) , Dwight David Eisenhower, 1953-61 (Republican), John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 1961-63 (Democrat), Lyndon Baines Johnson, 1963-69 (Democrat), Richard Milhous Nixon, 1969-74 (Republican), Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr , 1974-77 (Republican), James Earl Carter, 1977-81 (Democrat), Ronald Wilson Reagan, 1981-89 (Republican), George Herbert Walker Bush, 1989-1993 (Republican), William Jefferson Clinton, 1993- 2001(Democrat), George W. Bush, 2001- (Republican) and whoever that will be, does not make me smarter, it simply means I have observed more. I have learned no matter how I may disagree, we have to work with what we have. Our system may not be perfect but it allows you to express your opinion without fear of reprisal, our president (yes, he is yours as long as you choose to live in the US) will make mistakes and some big ones, he will make decisions you absolutely do not agree with. But did you have the same facts to form your opinion that he had when he made his decisions? If you were privy to all that, tell me how?
Again, there at least two sides and two angles and normally more. | |
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| Screw impeachment, how about some jail time?
Posted: 3/6/2008 3:54:02 AM | The funniest thing I've seen in the last 8 years was an email that showed a rally with a woman holding a sign that said "would someone PLEASE give George Bush a blow job so we can impeach him?" 
Regarding the OP, I don't think it'll ever happen. They have too much money and will buy their way out. I wouldn't mind seeing an angry mob with torches chase them into Mexico though. In fact, sign me up for that. | |
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