| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/9/2008 12:32:03 PM | | So who in your opinion is the most overrated quarterback of all time in the NFL? What is the best way to determine who is overrated and who isn't? Lets see what every one thinks on the subject. My personal opinion is Joh Elway but then again I hate the Broncos so I may be biased. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/9/2008 1:08:57 PM | As much as I always despised John Elway, ever since he refused to go to the team that drafted him... I will say that at least he won the big one. Marino achieved a whole lot of nothing.
My vote would be either him or Jim Kelly | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/9/2008 10:13:25 PM | | I can not believe either one of you thinks that John Elway was overrated. I thought the first post was an isolated moron. But the second one proves me wrong. WOW Dan Marino!!! are you kidding me. Look at the frickin numbers. If you still remember the QB than he wasn't overrated. There are quarterbacks that play presently that are overrated ,but the test of time will see them forgotten, thus not overrated. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/9/2008 10:53:07 PM | I didn't say Elway was overrated. I just said I never liked him. As for Marino, yes, he put up great numbers. Whoopie. Numbers are just that... numbers. Bottom line is, when the championships were there for the taking, he couldn't take them.
"If you still remember a QB, then he wasn't overrated"
I tend to disagree totally with that statement. How can they be considered overrated if you don't remember them? If you don't remember them, then clearly they are not overrated. They are nothing.
Most people rate Marino as one of the best QBs of all time. In that regard, I feel Marino is overrated. The reasons for my opinion are as follows:
To me, the benchmark of a QB - the pinnacle of achievement for that position, more than any other position in football – is the ability to lead your team to a championship.
Marino couldn't do that, despite having one of the all-time best coaches, and being surrounded by a few pretty darn good teams.
Not only couldn't he do it, he totally got "punked out" by Joe Montana. Marino was the one shooting off his mouth, braggng himself up, saying he was going to show Montana up. Montana just kept his mouth shut for two weeks, then proceeded to win Super Bowl MVP that year. It was brilliant.
To me, because of their consistent failures in the post-season, particularly in the "big game", I consider Marino and Kelly to be two of the most overrated QBs of all time.
I will give Marino this – he was arguably the greatest regular season QB there was. But to me, a great regular season QB who cannot get it done in the post-season is exactly that – overrated. Regular season record, 142-87. Awesome. Post-season record, 7-9. Dismal.
Isn't that was half the world was saying about Payton Manning two years ago – that he was overrated? He himself admitted, that until he won the Super Bowl, there were justifications to those claims. Those claims have since dissipated and rightly so.
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 7:55:19 AM | | whether its right or wrong, a qb successe is related to the team winning, in my own personal opinion i think thats absurd, its a team game, for example if the colts did not win a super bowl you would tell me that manning is not great , please.on the flip side of that is you would tell me that people like doug williams , trent dilfer and mark ryipen deserve to be in the same conversation as a bret farve or dan marino, please. but anyway using that a measuring stick , i think that the most overratted qb is carson palmer, for the last years we have heard how good this guy is going to be and the weapons he has, this could be one of the best offenses in the nfl, and all they get is 7-9 or a 8-8 record, this is why we should wait to label these players great when there preformance warrents that , not just anoit they as great, just keep in mind until the playoffs eli was the most overratted, or a huge bust or whatever the so called experts were calling him, now they label him a superbowl champ!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 8:25:44 AM | good post denny, it makes a lot of sense. the only thing i have a beef with is about eli being over rated. he was under rated. practically everyone i heard comment on eli before the playoffs were saying how much of a bust he was and how he could not get it done in the big games(tiki). i have watched nearly every snap eli has taken during his career and i know he can play football. i have yet to see him give up. if what he did during the 4th quarter of the superbowl does not convince people that he can play then i dont know what will.
i think brady is the most overrated QB of all time. he was annointed the best ever before he had the experience, the records or the hardware. he could still potentially live up to those expectations but he is not there yet. enjoy pat fans. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 9:15:21 AM | Easy-
Joe Namath.
His only claim is the succesful prediction of the 3rd superbowl result.
His career stats are laughable. Career completion percentage~ 50%; QB rating~66
He was such a difference maker that in an 11 year career he played in 3 playoff games.
And he's in the HOF!!??
I guess he was famous.
but pedestrian. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 9:47:14 AM | good post denny, it makes a lot of sense. the only thing i have a beef with is about eli being over rated
just to be clear, i was not saying he was overrated, i was reffering to the critics, that were saying he was overratted coming out of ole miss. but as far as brady being overratted, i dony know about that, look i hate the pats, and even i dont think that.3 superbowls is 3 superbowls, and he didi just set the record for tds, iam a colts and a manning fan, so i dont want to give the pats or brady there due, but in this case i think u have to for the sake of fairness. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 9:48:37 AM | Easy-
Joe Namath.
His only claim is the succesful prediction of the 3rd superbowl result.
His career stats are laughable. Career completion percentage~ 50%; QB rating~66
He was such a difference maker that in an 11 year career he played in 3 playoff games.
And he's in the HOF!!??
I guess he was famous.
but pedestrian.
this is a great point also keep in mind that he has more ints then tds, no way this guy belongs in the hall of fame | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 9:53:38 AM | | Brett Favre. TV commentators would get a hardon for this guy "Look at how much fun he's having!" "The ol' gun slinger is having fun again." The guy cost me many game betting on the Pack cause he'd throw long bombs and have them get picked all the effin' time. **** that guy. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 10:03:09 AM | | well thank god they dont judge greatness by the point spread, you are the one picking the games wrong, maybe u should blame yourself and not farve. sounds like you have more failures in your life then favre in his carrer, want a peice of advice, STOP GAMBLING its a suckers bet, maybe u already know that | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 10:26:46 AM | I agree with Carson Palmer being a huge disappointment to this point in his career... but hard to classify him as the most overrated of all time, considering he isn't even 30 years old yet.
But, like I said before about (Peyton) Manning, many peple were tagging him as "overrated" (I wasn't one of them) simply because he wasn't performing in the big game.
I don't think the flip side works for this. You can't say that every quarterback who has won a Super Bowl is a great quarterback, but for me, the greatest quarterbacks do have that in common.
It's like, if you live in California you are American, but just because you are American does not mean you live in California.
How about Ryan Leaf? Now THERE'S one I'm sure we can all agree on. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 12:26:21 PM | "i think brady is the most overrated QB of all time. he was annointed the best ever before he had the experience, the records or the hardware."
So you are saying that Eli is better than Brady? I don't think so. If I had to compare Eli to another QB I would say he reminds me of Dilfer. He is still overrated, and in my books nowhere near Brady.
"he could still potentially live up to those expectations but he is not there yet."
3 SB
50 TD
16-0 season
14-3 playoff record
And the list goes on.....
But he is not there yet?
People say everybody has their right to their own opinion, but I say not everybody can be smart.... | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 12:46:12 PM | Yes I have to agree with Joe Namath also. Being he is in the hall of fame that is a joke.
Hey WIZ, don't you be bad mouthing my Eli now 
Wiz said: but I say not everybody can be smart....
What you write is what you is........  | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 1:13:16 PM | | People say everybody has their right to their own opinion, but I say not everybody can be smart.... you are right about that one wiz. So you are saying that Eli is better than Brady? just where did you get that info from? But he is not there yet? no his is not the best ever yet. nice to see you have not worked on your reading comprehension skills. it is almost like you can not understand my words. nice to interact with you again wiz. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 3:44:16 PM | First, to you little dumb, please do not present my quotes from my other threads as your own. Please come up with your own stuff....Thank you. We all know you can't think for yourself.
Now for little dumbs better half. I read your post very clearly and you made a quote that,
"if what he did during the 4th quarter of the superbowl does not convince people that he can play then i dont know what will."
You make it sound like Eli is one of the elite QB and then state Brady is overrated. Come on now think what you are typing. Maybe you type faster than you think because I know your daddy little dumb types slower than he thinks.
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 4:53:25 PM | I never thought Farve was all that great but every time I turned around people were salavating. A couple of years ago he threw so many ints it almost looked like they were on purpose but it never slowed down all the hype.
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 5:39:56 PM | | I am too young to have seen Joe Theisman play but that guy is the worst commentator in sports, next to Bill Walton. The guy had Riggins (The Diesel) as the main focus of the offense and Riggins carried them to their Super Bowl victory. Good for him! Theisman's commentary skills suck. I say this because he thinks the only important player on the field is the quarterback. Or, I say this because I can't stand that guy. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 5:48:59 PM | evnstevn:
Farve is the only QB to win the MVP three times in a row. Sorry if you missed it but it was pretty cool to watch this guy dominate the league. He was the new Montana but in a different climate with a similar coaching strategy. (Holmgren~Walsh) Farve was cheered by many of non-Packers fans this year because of how great he is at playing QB. Farve is not over rated just because his name has been all over ESPN recently. ESPN is paying homage to his career. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/11/2008 2:33:01 AM | Even though I like ol " Broadway Joe ", Namaths career stats are not very impressive.
Also, considering he has 4 Super Bowl victories, Terry Bradshaws stats aren't exactly super human either. | |
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| Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/11/2008 3:52:48 AM |
I never thought Farve was all that great
Well, considering that before Favre came to Green Bay they hadn't been in the playoffs for ten years but in his 17 years they went 11 times, I'd have to disagree with you there.
A couple of years ago he threw so many ints it almost looked like they were on purpose but it never slowed down all the hype.
Yep, Brett Favre owns the record for most interceptions, but he also holds the record for most passing attempts, so that actually makes sense. By the way, he also holds the record for most complete passes.
Feel free to add anything I may have forgotten here, but off the top of my head, Brett Favre also owns the record for most passing touchdowns, most passing yards, and most importantly, MOST WINS.
He is also the only three time MVP in NFL history. I'd hardly call him overrated. | |
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