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 Takoma

Joined: 4/19/2005
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Baghdad Burning (An Iraqi's Blog)
Posted: 5/30/2005 6:26:52 AM
This is an excerpt from a blog written by an Iraqi who calls himself/herself, "Riverbend":


By Riverbend, Baghdad Burning
...She stood in the crowded room as her drove of minions stood around her......A huddling mass trying to draw closer to her aura of evil. The lights flashed against her fangs as her cruel lips curled into a grimace. It was meant to be a smile but it wouldn't reach her cold, lifeless eyes... It was a leer- the leer of the undead before a feeding...
The above was not a scene from Buffy the Vampire Slayer- it was just Condi Rice in Iraq a day ago. At home, we fondly refer to her as The Vampire. She's such a contrast to Bush- he simply looks stupid. She, on the other hand, looks utterly evil.

The last two weeks have been violent. The number of explosions in Baghdad alone is frightening. There have also been several assassinations- bodies being found here and there. It's somewhat disturbing to know that corpses are turning up in the most unexpected places. Many people will tell you it's not wise to eat river fish anymore because they have been nourished on the human remains being dumped into the river. That thought alone has given me more than one sleepless night. It is almost as if Baghdad has turned into a giant graveyard.

The latest corpses were those of some Sunni and Shia clerics- several of them well-known. People are being patient and there is a general consensus that these killings are being done to provoke civil war. Also worrisome is the fact that we are hearing of people being rounded up by security forces (Iraqi) and then being found dead days later- apparently when the new Iraqi government recently decided to reinstate the death penalty, they had something else in mind.

But back to the explosions. One of the larger blasts was in an area called Ma'moun, which is a middle class area located in west Baghdad. It's a relatively calm residential area with shops that provide the basics and a bit more. It happened in the morning, as the shops were opening up for their daily business and it occurred right in front of a butchers shop. Immediately after, we heard that a man living in a house in front of the blast site was hauled off by the Americans because it was said that after the bomb went off, he sniped an Iraqi National Guardsman.

I didn't think much about the story- nothing about it stood out: an explosion and a sniper- hardly an anomaly. The interesting news started circulating a couple of days later. People from the area claim that the man was taken away not because he shot anyone, but because he knew too much about the bomb. Rumor has it that he saw an American patrol passing through the area and pausing at the bomb site minutes before the explosion. Soon after they drove away, the bomb went off and chaos ensued. He ran out of his house screaming to the neighbors and bystanders that the Americans had either planted the bomb or seen the bomb and done nothing about it. He was promptly taken away.

The bombs are mysterious. Some of them explode in the midst of National Guard and near American troops or Iraqi Police and others explode near mosques, churches, and shops or in the middle of sougs. One thing that surprises us about the news reports of these bombs is that they are inevitably linked to suicide bombers. The reality is that some of these bombs are not suicide bombs- they are car bombs that are either being remotely detonated or maybe time bombs. All we know is that the techniques differ and apparently so do the intentions. Some will tell you they are resistance. Some say Chalabi and his thugs are responsible for a number of them. Others blame Iran and the SCIRI militia Badir.

In any case, they are terrifying. If you're close enough, the first sound is a that of an earsplitting blast and the sounds that follow are of a rain of glass, shrapnel and other sharp things. Then the wails begin- the shrill mechanical wails of an occasional ambulance combined with the wail of car alarms from neighboring vehicles... and finally the wail of people trying to sort out their dead and dying from the debris.

The day before yesterday, a bomb fell on Mustansiriya University- Khalid of Secrets in Baghdad blogs about it.

We've been watching the protests about the Newsweek article with interest. I'm not surprised at the turnout at these protests- the thousands of Muslims angry at the desecration of the Quran. What did surprise me was the collective shock that seems to have struck the Islamic world like a slap in the face. How is this shocking? It's terrible and disturbing in the extreme- but how is it shocking? After what happened in Abu Ghraib and other Iraqi prisons how is this astonishing? American jailers in Afghanistan and Iraq have shown little respect for human life and dignity- why should they be expected to respect a holy book?

Juan Cole has some good links about the topic.

Now Newsweek have retracted the story- obviously under pressure from the White House. Is it true? Probably... We've seen enough blatant disregard and disrespect for Islam in Iraq the last two years to make this story sound very plausible. On a daily basis, mosques are raided, clerics are dragged away with bags over their heads... Several months ago the world witnessed the execution of an unarmed Iraqi prisoner inside a mosque. Is this latest so very surprising?

Detainees coming back after weeks or months in prison talk of being forced to eat pork, not being allowed to pray, being exposed to dogs, having Islam insulted and generally being treated like animals trapped in a small cage. At the end of the day, it's not about words or holy books or pork or dogs or any of that. It's about what these things symbolize on a personal level. It is infuriating to see objects that we hold sacred degraded and debased by foreigners who felt the need to travel thousands of kilometers to do this. That's not to say that all troops disrespect Islam- some of them seem to genuinely want to understand our beliefs. It does seem like the people in charge have decided to make degradation and humiliation a policy.

By doing such things, this war is taken to another level- it is no longer a war against terror or terrorists- it is, quite simply, a war against Islam and even secular Muslims are being forced to take sides.
 longte

Joined: 10/18/2004
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Baghdad Burning (An Iraqi's Blog)
Posted: 5/30/2005 6:48:53 AM
Hi
Why bother posting something like this?

It is clearly propaganda. The same as the coalition uses propaganda.

Newspapers want stuff like this to sell papers

WAR causes all kinds of things
In 'Nam if a buddy was killed, WE killed.
We didn't give a damn who, we just needed someone DEAD

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of this war, there are young kids in uniform over there doing their best
There will be mistakes made, but they need support

Fight against the war if you will
But try to support the kids that are over there doing the dirty work, while we are safe at home
...

This is something I wrote a while ago
Don't let it happen this time

In early '71 they drew and called my name
To go to a "Police Action".. In a place called Vietnam
So we all went away to play their silly games
Most of us just came back safe... but never quite the same

We had seen too many things, we were to young to see
At night we'd wake up screaming, because of memories

When we left, we were the "Heroes" going off to war
On return we were Pariahs, who didnt know the score
They'd given us a uniform of which we should be proud
When we returned, they said we shouldn't wear it in a crowd

They said we should go quietly, back to how we were
The "Heroes' .. now "Pariahs" returning from the war

Well some of us turned to drugs, and others turned to crime
Others just went back home, to try and pass the time
Look into the Suicides of those who came back home
Percentage is much higher, than those who did not go

You Now say we were heroes, but it is not the same
What happens to the twenty years, I held my head in shame???

So Argue about the Administration of the war
The Justice of this war

But don't give the poors kids that are fighting it a hard time

....
 Takoma

Joined: 4/19/2005
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Baghdad Burning (An Iraqi's Blog)
Posted: 5/30/2005 6:59:04 AM

Why bother posting something like this?

It is clearly propaganda. The same as the coalition uses propaganda


This is a blog written by an Iraqi in Baghdad. They live there. They are talking about what is happening there and how they feel about it. There are many blogs by Iraqis on the web. I post this to show what really happens in war.
 BulldogMedic

Joined: 12/31/2004
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Baghdad Burning (An Iraqi's Blog)
Posted: 5/30/2005 7:00:01 AM
We've seen this before, and it's complete propaganda.
 longte

Joined: 10/18/2004
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Baghdad Burning (An Iraqi's Blog)
Posted: 5/30/2005 7:09:13 AM
Ok It is writen by Iraqis, SO WHAT
Do you think their journalists are any less biased than ours

What happens in WAR is that people DIE

The kids that are over there fighting, while you are at home, need support

Argue against the war.
I argue against the war

But don't let those poor bloody kids think you dont support them
..
 Frrosty

Joined: 3/21/2004
Msg: 6
Baghdad Burning (An Iraqi's Blog)
Posted: 5/30/2005 2:54:32 PM
It is clearly propaganda. The same as the coalition uses propaganda


I thoroughly am thankful that we are seeing all sides and forms of "propoganda", since we, clearly, will nevr be free of any of it.

YOu want to know about the war in Iraq?

Then listen to ALL of the things which are being said (viewpoints)

You want TRUTH? Learn it all, from all sides; and the truths will be speckled within AND as a grand calculation of all parts and pieces.

Great article dude; and thank you.

This is a blog written by an Iraqi in Baghdad. They live there. They are talking about what is happening there and how they feel about it. There are many blogs by Iraqis on the web. I post this to show what really happens in war


PLease post more.

I wish, and severely hope, that everyone...from both sides of "the experience" post the traumas AND successes felt and seen from this "venue",

War sucks, people are dying, people are lonely, people are afraid; what right do we have to not have to know any of it...

The pain should not be their alone, for many, even most, involved (Iraqi, American, French, Russian, Korean, Muslim, Christian, Sunni, Budhist).....MOST of those women men, boys and gorls, who are remotely involved or right smack dab in the middle of the firezones...

are innocent.

What right do we have to not listen to their tales. (like we cannot help but to do in our media and papers..and discussions)

Either do not listen or pay attention to any talk of this war....or listen to it all.

HOw fawkin dare you.


But don't let those poor bloody kids think you dont support them



Support? What a queer term to use in our instances and situations.

I just hope that they all, young men and women from all sides and nationalities..get home to kiss their children and see another day in peace, health, and well being.

That is the "support" that I wish to extend
 Double Cabin

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Posted: 5/30/2005 5:57:52 PM
How is it you are so familiar with what constitutes propoganda Bulldog?
 indicalover

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Posted: 5/30/2005 6:45:18 PM
Our media is biased, and theirs is biased (who ever they may be). My opinion may be different from your opinion as far as what the war is like. I do feel sorry for the ones living it though...

But if it's propaganda you seek, what's very interesting is to look at links of newspapers in their part of the world. We tell the same story a completely different way than they tell it, and they're living it. I read quite a bit of Middle Eastern, and Eurpoean news. (isn't the internet fvcking cool!!?) WHAT a difference you see in the news, and the slant that's put on things. I mean if you think it's heavy between the liberals and the conservatives here, wait till you compare it with the rest of the world...
 BulldogMedic

Joined: 12/31/2004
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Posted: 5/30/2005 6:48:06 PM

How is it you are so familiar with what constitutes propoganda Bulldog?


Because, I have the power of Google at my disposal.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&oi=defmore&q=define:propaganda

Try it some time.
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