| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 3/31/2008 10:46:22 PM | Ok I need to rant about something and if you have any input then by all means go ahead and contribute what your thoughts are.
A couple buddies and I were shootin' the breeze at the local pub tonight and the subject turned to a couple ladies who'd sent my friends some naked pics of themselves on their cellphones. My instant reaction was 'Lets see!' but as I was drivin' home about an hour later I realized that I was pissed off! Pissed off at the fact that women expect men to not see them as sex objects but this is exactly the type of activity that instigates that type of attitude where men see women as sex objects before they see them as people. It's one thing to send your significant other a naked pic of yourself to spice things up and that I'm ok with but when it's someone you really don't know from the bar or met in your travels, that I have a problem with. You ladies need to stop doin' shit like this if you want to be taken seriously as a person not just as a sex object!! | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 3/31/2008 11:11:51 PM | | OP the reality is women want to be seen as BOTH! we want to be desired as women, and we want to be respected as individuals. funny how often one negates the other in the male mind. if we were to analyze it in psychiatric terms, it's the virgin/whore archetype...guys sexually desire one type, while another is "relationship material"...and to that i have to say you guys are idiots! lol. if you were smart, you'd look for a woman who could be both and satisfy both sets of needs, rather than viewing women as either one or the other with no grey areas in between. frankly, we're a lot more complex than that. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 3/31/2008 11:23:36 PM | HELL YA! Women world wide over want to be seen as mindless tramps and whores and general sex objects for men to use and abuse and discard. Do you have any other questions? Where do you men come up with these fascinating topics?... at public urinals...just passing the time....having a wee chit chat?... coming up with new names to call the female genitals?
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 3/31/2008 11:31:48 PM | We want to be seen as individuals. Some want to be noticed for their sex appeal, some for their heart, some for their brains. Every once in a while some of us want to be seen for all of those things and more.
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 3/31/2008 11:37:10 PM | | You want to be seen as both? But isn't that like havin your cake and eatin' it too and you know you can't have both. Do you really think sendin' naked pics of yourself to a guy you hardly know is demonstrating your sex appeal? | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 3/31/2008 11:44:24 PM | I think you are trying to be more intelligent about the situation then is necessary. Person A has a belief. Person B does an action. Person A's belief causes a reaction. Simple.
Now, onto your question. Every woman desires different things at different times. However, I do not think that being viewed as sexy (My Definition: desirable in the eyes of someone with whom you share mutual attraction) is the same as someone 'wanting' to be viewed as a sex object. I think that many women seem to have trouble understanding that men do judge us when they finish oggling us.
As one poster said, it goes back to the whole Madonna / Whore or less formal 'Mama / Ho' theory. A guy wants a lady in the kitchen and a sex kitten in the bedroom. Where do the advances of modern technology fit into this? That goes back to the whole A B A thing I said at the beginning.
Generally speaking, its just best for all to keep your darn clothes on. Much less drama this way. Save being naked for the darn bedroom, or at the very least, for an environment where the guy cannot put you in his pocket and show you off as a piece of homemade porn at the local pub.
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 3/31/2008 11:55:25 PM | i dunno OP, you tell me...does seeing naked pics of a girl you don't know get you hot and bothered? if that didn't generate sexual interest 1. women wouldn't do it, 2. the porn industry wouldn't exist.
besides...why shouldn't we be both desired and respected? as a guy, don't you want a woman to find you both sexually and emotionally desirable? why is a woman presumed to be easy or a whore the moment that sexual energy is projected? you guys really need to get your heads out of your asses and start to see the whole picture and not label women as one or the other. this whole thread is about your issues (and assumptions), not ours. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 12:41:29 AM | I think it depends on where we are in our life and what we are looking for. Are we younger or more mature? At the time do we really care how someone views us? Has it been a year and we just want to play and have fun? The pics your friends received that you so welcomed to view.....if you have such a issue with it then why get excited to view them? Then you drive home alone and find morality? | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 3:32:56 AM | I have a really great picture of myself naked and I'd send it to women all over the place if I could get away with it. I know I'm a person but I like the idea of being a sex object too. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 3:51:22 AM | Why CAN'T someone be both if that's what they want to be?
The way I see it, any woman I know is a person 100% of the time. I think that we can agree on that. Why not treat them like one?
Now, she might like to be objectified some of the time. (And I really hate the phrase "sex object" because it implies a hollowness- a lack of humanity.) Does her enjoying objectification somehow remove the fact that she's a person? No.
I wouldn't date someone who was passing nude pictures to people that they barely know... but that doesn't make them less of a person to me. I find people in general fascinating. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 4:09:26 AM | | This is an interesting topic... can't solve it for you but... I know I like to be both. LOL the older I get the more I wish men thought I was sexy. I would not be sending naked digital pictures of myself but I have been asked! ( I know we all have) It is the same idea as can you have crazy monkey sex and make love to the same person... A big Yes! A Lady in the Parlor and a Whore in the bedroom. Sex should be fun... and ( for lack of a better word) being a sex object is sometimes nice. It just goes back to it has to be the right person, the one that still respects you in the morning. That can see you are more then just that. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 4:43:34 AM | the way I see it, its like this : Maybe this woman feels that she has nothing else to offer and feels that her body will get the guys attention, and keep his attention on her......which would work for some guys but not for all!. Maybe she is just newly single and is very unsure of how to act and has made a mistake and is learning from it. I agree with a lot of the opinions here, women are like cars, we all do not have the same specifications but some of us do. I also think that if a person is shy, they see the mobile or the net not as something tangiable but more fantacy and they thus do not think its "that bad" posting a naked pic of themselves in this mediums. Stop and think for a minute and see how many roles you play in your life, not only with your immediate family or with your intimate partner but in your community as a whole. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 4:53:19 AM |
the way I see it, its like this : Maybe this woman feels that she has nothing else to offer and feels that her body will get the guys attention, and keep his attention on her......which would work for some guys but not for all!.
Or......possibly..... it is one of the many things she has to offer and used to her choosing. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 4:55:02 AM |
OP the reality is women want to be seen as BOTH! I totally agree! Women are multi-dimensional. You're seeing women as only being one thing, OP; and seem to think a sexy woman can't possibly be taken seriously as a total person. But a woman's sexuality...however she chooses to express it...generally is just one facet of her.
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 5:51:25 AM |
couple ladies who'd sent my friends some naked pics of themselves on their cellphones
This type of communication should be reserved for your SO and not sent to random men you just met. I agree with that.
You ladies need to stop doin' shit like this if you want to be taken seriously as a person not just as a sex object!!
BUT you looked at the pictures didn't you? It got your attention for a few minutes. That's what they were going for. Some guys will go for that, some won't. Maybe these women wanted to be seen as sex objects at that time. Maybe they were drunk? Who knows. BUT, If they had a board meeting the next day with any of these men, are the men going to be thinking about the topic of the meeting? Hell no. And those women must be prepared for that consequence.
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 6:02:27 AM | To avoid that naked picture thing that you dont like..... 1....stay out of those pubs 2......dont share cell phones pictures with friends......its like sharing toilet paper....you like soft your bud likes hard.................maybe he knew the girls and enjoyed seeing the pics............did he force you to look???
I'm so way beyond nudity for many reasons lol..and wouldnt have done it when I had the body that permitted it except with my SO, but the world is a big place. You cant be the moral police. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 6:51:27 AM | I would say that the majority of intelligent women would answer: more of a person than sex object.
Buuut...being a person has all kinds of things attached to it, needs, desires...such as wanting to be accepted by others including the opposite sex.
To me, I wouldn't have much respect for a woman that sends naked pics of herself to other men, unless it is to her exclusive b/f. Then, I think it's sexy and a good thing.
What I'm saying is that if YOUR serious g/f is doing this for YOU, that's awesome because, she is comfortable with herself and body and if that's the case you probably will enjoy great sex, provided you are pleasing her ( you damn well better be! )
I have little repect for a woman that does things like that to... like, strangers (not in a relationship with) That's more slutty. I kind of do find it interesting a little bit, but more for entertainment.
All humans want to be seen as desirable. It's HOW they try to get this message across that is the difference. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 7:15:47 AM | cowboy, It might seem odd to you, but women like to be seen as people ....and the sexiest of these at that.
The only objects some women might use hopefully help market this to some lucky man ...or at least one who recognizes her other desires, including her needing to be respected as a fellow human being also. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 7:32:21 AM | waitaminute---let me get this straight.... it's ok for you to look at these pics of women--and i assume you enjoyed the view--but they're damned (in your mind) as "sex objects" for sending the pics in the first place. sounds hypocritical to me. | |
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| Do women like to be seen as sex objects or people? Posted: 4/1/2008 8:38:01 AM |
Women are human beings, human beings are sexual beings. Think that answers it.
Well then, see, there ya go.
to which, i could say...Men are human beings and are sexual beings as well.
here is the incongruous part of the situation.
if a gal sends me a naked pic on the phone...someone I don't know...or to one of my buds, it's...well, sortof a 'cool' thing.
If I send a naked pic of myself to a gal that i don't know......I'm cuffed and pushed into the back of a squad car, because I'm a pervert. hahaha
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