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Posted: 4/6/2008 9:07:54 PM | | Is it possible to have all the elments completely fullfilled...i have had two outtta four and may have even thought i'd seem three outta four at times, but has anyone had all four and if so what are you doing here and not there.... | |
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| Spiritually, menatlly, emotionally and physically
Posted: 4/6/2008 11:22:25 PM | I like this question. I think the ideal is all four. Depends on what you mean by spiritual also. One type of spiritual can happen though when in bed, two feel as though they are one. This is a type of sexual experience few have. Or were you speaking of church? Spirituality can mean different things to different people.
The other part of the question is has one had all four mutually????
One person can have these when the other may not. Mutually having all four is a recipe for a long long satisfying relationship, although it doesn't mean some have not lost their spouses to death or other circumstances, so I think the question holds value.
I am sure without a doubt we are all looking for all four mutually. I don't have the statistics you seek however. But it would be nice to hear from some that have had the experiences. | |
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| Spiritually, menatlly, emotionally and physically
Posted: 4/7/2008 1:23:08 AM | there is one more.. intellectually.
yes someone can ( find it all) as long as they offer those things they can reasonable have a chance of finding it. of course this means being aware of what they all are. | |
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| Spiritually, menatlly, emotionally and physically
Posted: 4/7/2008 1:37:48 AM | nooooooooooo...I havent
Ive met guys I can mentally discuss things with
Ive met guys I can talk spirit with.. on some consciousness
Ive met guys ....physically/sexually compatable
emotionally? hmmmmm
I hope with all my spirit/heart and being I will meet someone we connect with on all 4....
but i doubt i will on pof...
maybe I read too many forums... that ... I just become more disheartened..
unless I connect on character/spirit though.. the other 3 wont attract me..
smiles/peace | |
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| Spiritually, menatlly, emotionally and physically
Posted: 4/7/2008 1:41:57 AM | OP: do you mean mental as (on pills or not) or mentally (psychologically and intellectually?) Intellectually then meaning (IQ)? I suppose one would have to put these into a priority as far as what is most important to have.
There are other things too. Compromise, Accountability, Communication. Views on handling finances, views on raising children. These fit into some catagories, but this is a list I tell my girls to write down when they are weighing the pros and cons in a relationship. Love is sometimes not enough. In my opinion, it is up to the couple which ones should match up and which ones don't have to. They may compliment the other or strengthen the other. Love is so blind that these things are glazed over mostly. Ends up bad sometimes, but the saying is that it is better to have loved and lost, than to not have loved at all. Something like that anyway........ | |
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| Spiritually, menatlly, emotionally and physically
Posted: 4/7/2008 5:34:00 AM | what I am learning is that you have to have those 4 things for and by YOURSELF before you can have them with another person
physical health- eating nutritiously and exercising your body
mental serenity- finding acceptance with whatever is put before you
spirituality, however YOU define it
emotional balance- recoginizing and respecting your emotions, not ignoring them
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| Spiritually,intellectually , emotionally and physically
Posted: 4/7/2008 6:26:23 AM | I believe that if we are all of the above, we will tend to attract the same. Of course it is possible. Particularly if we continue to evolve as human beings.
Getting out there, being part of the greater community is part of this journey.
Most people who are truely spiritual, mentally/intellectually aware, have emotional well being, and physical conciousness are social beings.... however, we are not all for each other. Attraction is still part of the equation. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 12:41:07 PM |
Wooby, I just read your post. Is everything OK?
Thanks for asking, sweetie; no, that was in response to his question why are you here? I actually found out about PoF from a widows' site.
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| Spiritually, menatlly, emotionally and physically
Posted: 4/7/2008 2:14:37 PM | | And all 4 of those should happen consistently. I had it for a short period of time almost a decade ago, however, we grew apart. Or perhaps it was an illusion, the jury is still out on that one. (sometimes you grow apart if you grow and the other person stands still) Personally, I wouldn't settle for anything less. Someone mentioned a 5th, intellectually, however, I'd put that in the category of mentally. Ans someone else made an excellent point that you have to be there for yourself in all 4 categories. I heartily agree. To settle, for me, I'd consider tragedy or perhaps comedy. Happy fishing! | |
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| Spiritually, menatlly, emotionally and physically
Posted: 4/7/2008 2:14:41 PM | Once you have all four, you have found your soulmate and what you have needs to be cherished and nurtured.
I have only been in one relationship in my life where all four elements were fulfilled for both of us. If his job had not taken him overseas, I am quite certain he and I would still be together and I would not even know a place called POF existed. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 2:22:20 PM | | The one I never seem to get is "emotionally." I just never seem to get into relationships with guys who have access to their emotions AND aren't totally ruled by them. It always seems to be one extreme or the other, instead of a healthy balance. I'm starting to wonder if there is such a thing as an emotionally healthy man at all. (If I dated women I might say the same about them). Maybe modern life has become too stressful and everyone has gone nuts, but doesn't realize it because they still fit in with all the other lunatics around them -- particularly since you really need to add "financially" to this list if people are going to share a life together, and god knows getting that together these days is proving more and more overwhelming for a lot of people. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 3:48:03 PM | | OP - one has to be in balance with themselves on all levels before embarking on a relationship with another. I think it's a rare individual who is in sync with all 4 of the elements in their life. It is possible, but man is it work! | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 4:19:59 PM | ahhhh. good question.
i was going to say, at first, yes. I have generated energy on all four levels with others and I'm here because it was only glimpses - temporary and could not sustain itself.
and then i started thinking more deeply and realized, no. not really. i have had relationships that fulfilled the spiritual, mental and emotional realms, but did not generate the same level physically. and then I've had relationships that generated physically, but did not connect completely on the other levels.....
energetically, I believe we operate on all four levels all the time and it becomes magical when we find another who's energy naturally harmonizes with ours....and yes, I also believe if it's manifesting in all four realms, then that's the key to longevity.....until it changes, if its going to.....there are no absolutes. only the moment. perhaps glimpses are the treasure after all. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 5:33:20 PM | Spiritually - yes, he makes me understand more deeply what goodness is, what it means to have character, what morality looks like in action.
Mentally/Intellectually - yes, he challenges me without confrontation, teaches me about things/the world that I didn't know, and, shows me different ways of tackling a problem, overcoming it, we can talk for hours on end and debate on a whole range of topics
Emotionally - yes, one of the reasons I fell as hard as I did, when I had a lot of issues going on (due to my mom's health, which then, negatively affected my motivation in school), he showed me my strengths. And refused to let me settle for anything less. When I shut down, get angry, he knows how to deal, giving me my space, but, not backing down indefinitely. When I get upset over a situation with a friend (roommate), he gave such calm advice, like making a handshake pact with me that I will give it at least 3 days before I talk to her, and, whod've thunk it, within the 3 days, somehow, without his or my intervention, it was shown that *I* was the one in the wrong....so imagine if I'd confronted her in my anger that very day, how unjust it would have been? I can't thank him enough for his foresights, his emotional maturity.
Physically - he's shown me only glimpses, and, it's been restraint on his part otherwise....how I wish.... | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 5:53:45 PM | | I SOO agree with you!!! One has to be connected to themselves first, before they can hope to connect with someone else. Hoping to find someone to connect with on all four of these connection, to make you feel complete, will not make you whole if you aren't able to give it back. | |
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