| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 12:19:19 AM | I found this article hilarious. We think we move on and develop culturally - not always the case eh?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/08/nhoodie108.xml
I guess this makes for a good argument on cultural continuity | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 4:11:54 AM | | Makes for amusing reading. Although in my personal opinion, I don't really believe that times were that similar to now really. I do look at the "good old days" as being different from now, but I spose I didnt really live in the 12th Century so I can't really comment, I guess as people say these things go in cycles. | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 4:38:57 AM | My hand is up !!
I thought it was about comparing the people of a bygone era to the present and comparing some similarities regarding hooded attire !!
I can only guess he spotted the word "culture", assumed it was racial and let loose with his opinions in the calm, reasoned, expletive free manner we have come to expect from certain extremist parties who thankflly are on the edges of politics and will remain there.
BTW - nothing personal - its just I dont see what a question on hoodies has to do with immigration ! | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 5:06:54 AM | We think we move on and develop culturally - not always the case eh?
Dont know about that OP ............We have "bad boys on da block" these days , in those times they had "bad boys in da stock" !!
Bring back the rack ........lets stretch a hoodie!!!!!!!! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 6:26:27 AM | Lol nice to see we have managed to retain our true cultural identity through recent attempts at merging all cultures in together..
Long live Britain and her hoodies .. LOL .. (Very tongue in cheek) | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 8:15:04 AM |
I can only guess he spotted the word "culture", assumed it was racial and let loose with his opinions in the calm, reasoned, expletive free manner we have come to expect from certain extremist parties who thankflly are on the edges of politics and will remain there.
Guess I missed something but from the sounds of it I think I'm glad.
Just to be clear I thought the article was interesting a funny take on cultural parallels between the past and the present. Not trying to make any statement on immigration... | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 8:25:31 AM | | Well, people trying to dodge authority are always going to disguise themselves, and probably did long before the 12th century, and will continue to do so afterwards! I don't know if it's a case of cultural continuity, but more of a case of not wanting to be found out! | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 8:50:12 AM | I think the human race has not really changed a lot deep down over the past certuries.
Our characteristics have a lot to do with genetics.
Culture does not change much - sure it evloves and swings back and forth but it always stays within certain parameters so we never really change too much. | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 9:22:14 AM |
Our characteristics have a lot to do with genetics.
But more to do with socialisation.
We haven't changed that mush as society in general hasn't changed that much.
In the 12thC there were good uns and bad uns, punishment was more severe and the Church laid down the laws of society but the general ethos was the same.
We're probably safer now than our forebears were then. | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 10:23:09 AM | The Genie is out of the bottle...the Irish have been renowned the world over for their excessive boozing.
Alcohol consumption has been with us since almost the beginning of time. Purified/clean drinking water was exceptionally hard to obtain, therefore it was healthier to drink wine, beer or cider. The history of alcohol in Britain is fascinating...just depending on who occupied the throne dictated its usage and abusage. Cromwell, being a puritan was opposed to it, whereas William III imported Gin from France when he became King.
"The Domesday Book, a nationwide survey of Britain taken in 1086, records St Paul's in London brewing almost 68,000 gallons a year: around 1,900 barrels. However, the monks of Fountains Abbey in Yorkshire far exceeded this in later centuries, producing a staggering 60 barrels every ten days, or 21,900 annually. "
Ref: A BOOK ABOUT PUB NAMES
The Story of Britain As Told Through Its Pub Signs, By Elaine Saunders
The monks made sweet, strong ale from malted barley, water and yeast, said to have been twice as potent as modern beer. Despite this, it became the drink of choice for the majority of the population, including children. Water pollution had become a problem in larger villages - from household effluent and early industrial processes - so the monks' beer was a purer alternative, the water being sterilised during boiling and fermentation. I'm not suggesting the monks were 'hoodies'.
English Literature is said to have started in 'The Tabard Inn' in London in the 14th century as described in Chaucer's Canterbury Tales. A group of pilgrims set out on their way to Canterbury. These pilgrimages became increasingly popular from the 12th century, so much so that the monasteries were no longer able to cope with the passing trade. Additional Inns were established in towns to cater for the devout who travelled between shrines. | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 11:20:14 AM |
the Irish have been renowned the world over for their excessive boozing
Actually, although Ireland has a very high number per capita of alcholics, it also has a very high number per capita of abstainers too.
I guess its all or nothing ! | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 12:32:28 PM | Yes it has been revealed in surveys conducted from the 1970's - 1990's that 30% of women in Ireland are abstainers, and 20-25% of men were.
In the 1998 SLAN Report this number had dropped to 19% for women and 14% for men.
In 2004 Dr Bedford who illustrated that Ireland was third in Europe in alcohol consumption per capita, and crucially, over 50 per cent of men's drinking sessions turn into binge drinking sessions.
Irish News
We are getting out more now.  | |
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| Some things never change ref:cultural continuity
Posted: 4/9/2008 12:38:23 PM | Wow, I had always assumed that Irish drinking thing was just a stereotype. The Irish have that rep in the US as well.
The connection between culture, politics and drink is also interesting. Hadn't considered that really though I had read that beer was safer to consume than water. | |
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