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Posted: 4/10/2008 1:04:03 AM | Hopefully you have been shown the appropriate films:
Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the police state
ZEITGEIST
Alex Jones Police State 2000 Martial Law Posse Comitatus
Well, my friends, we are in a lot of trouble, we have stumble and been prodded into this Police State.
Watch this Quickly so you can get a heads up on this bill...
("What we chose to ignore" search on YouTube)
With This PDD 51 (presidential directive) your president George Bush, has now the power to become Dictator of these blinded, dumbed down United States. Written in this passage, if a "Catastrophic Emergency" (means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions) that the president of the United States "shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring 'constitutional' government". Wow, I like how it says "ANY", 'that seems to be really clear'????
For the link to the Bill, search Google for "PDD 51" its the first link
I have come to believe that in the coming months that a catastrophic event is to take place, nulling the constitution, the bill of rights making our president George Bush, dictator of the United States, be it man made or natural.
Hopefully you all take time the time to watch these films, read up on your rights, and new laws taking place.
If you do not have the time to watch over 2 hour films at the very least watch these Youtube videos search using these titles:
What We Chose To Ignore
Directive 51
While No one was Looking, Bush Appoints Himself Dictator
FEMA Camp Footage (Concentrations Camps in USA)
Detention Centre, concentration camp?
Fear The Police State
Police State 101
Night Riders: Police State | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 1:28:01 AM | | I remember reading stories like this when Clinton was President. The right was saying the the "boogieman" was gonna get us and we are all doomed because of Presidential Directives...now the "boogieman" has changed parties and he's coming at us from the right. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 1:57:58 AM | Indeed it would seems so. I wouldn't give him the 'guise' of that particular deity. It seems to be more open than that, no hiding in closets anymore, now he can attack in the day with this bill.
I would just be more alert, and when they come knocking on my door they can answer to bullets. It would seem in that time of crisis, bullets will be judge and jury.
Myself, I don't believe I could do much to stunt their cause, but I don't plan on hiding in the woods like some have planned, just as they have shown us right to our faces their plans, their conquest of the world, I plan to be in theirs...
Knowingly enough, these "Men in Black" or "Black Storm Troopers" , our unbadged men and women in black and blue will be our fathers and sons, our mother and daughters, beating us with batons and tear gas. They will be a Faceless enemy.... | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 12:19:43 PM | I thought this was the place to post Current Events...
All thats old news...
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Posted: 4/10/2008 12:56:00 PM | I shouldn't read this sh*t when I'm high..I shouldn't read this s*it when I'm high..I shouldn't sit in this shIt when I'm high..I shouldn't s*it in this sh*t when I am high... | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 2:45:52 PM | It only seems a few of take this seriously. Welcome to the police state folks. We are at a turning point here, in which a Pandora's box has been opened.
read through this
FEMA has been given responsibilty for ALL disaster relief, Congress has been bypassed in this order by its publication in the Fedreal Registry. FEMA has also been appointed to construct underground Facilities to assure the continuity of the government in case of a emergency, Foreign and Domestic. These new bills passed suspend the Costitution and the Bill of rights (what is left). They now have the right to isolate large groups of civilians without reason.
Executive Order #11003, #11005, #10990, #10995, #10997, #10998
The Government can assume command of any airports and aircraft, including commerical aircraft, rail roads, inland waterways, and storage facilities, public and private, all modes of Transportation and control of highways and seaports, seize and control the communication media (which it seems to have great control already), control of all eletrical power, gas (even the gas in your car), petro, fuels and minerals, public and private, Control of all food supplies, public and private, including farms and equipment, and any means of energy and mechanisms of production.
Due to this new law it cannot be revoked or reviewed for up to six months by congress.
Excutive Order #11000
Authorizes the government to mobilize American Civilians into work brigades under government supervision, and any and all devices and media you own to be searched without knowledge or consent, and strips you of the right of Habeas Corpus appeals and the right to invoke the Geneva Conventions or their protocols as a source of rights.
I don't know about you but I feel that something is wrong here... | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 3:09:16 PM | conspiracy theorists ain't too bright I can't believe that people buy this stuff :)
I mean lets's take a good look at it okay ?
Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event there will usually be at least one, often several, wild conspiracy theories which spring up around it. ’The CIA killed Hendrix’, ’The Pope had John Lennon murdered ’, ’Hitler was half Werewolf’, ’Space aliens replaced Nixon with a clone’, etc, etc. The bigger the event, the more ridiculous and more numerous are the fanciful rantings which circulate in relation to it.
So it’s hardly surprising that the events of Sept 11 2001 have spawned their fair share of these ludicrous fairy tales. And as always, there is sadly a small but gullible percentage of the population eager to lap up these tall tales, regardless of facts or rational analysis.
One of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they ’hate our freedoms.
Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell. Normally I don’t even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories.
These crackpots even contend that the extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in organizing them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able. Blindly ignoring the stand-down of the US Air Force, the insider trading on airline stocks — linked to the CIA, the complicit behavior of Bush on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about 19 Arab hijackers somehow managing to commandeer 4 planes simultaneously and fly them around US airspace for nearly 2 hours, crashing them into important buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do.
The huge difficulties with such a stupid story force them to invent even more preposturous stories to distract from its core silliness, and thus the tale has escalated into a mythic fantasy of truly gargantuan proportions.
It’s difficult to apply rational analysis to such unmitigated stupidity, but that is the task which I take on in this article. However, it should be noted that one of the curious characteristics of conspiracy theorists is that they effortlessly change their so-called evidence in response to each aspect which is debunked. As soon as one delusion is unmasked, they simply invent another to replace it, and deny that the first ever existed. Eventually, when they have turned full circle through this endlessly changing fantasy fog , they then re-invent the original delusion and deny that you ever debunked it, thus beginning the circle once more. This technique is known as ’the fruit loop’ and saves the conspiracy theorist from ever having to see any of their ideas through to their (ill)logical conclusions.
According to the practitioners of the fruit loop, 19 Arabs took over the 4 planes by subduing the passengers and crew through the use of guns, knives, box cutters and gas, and then used electronic guidance systems which they had smuggled on board to fly the planes to their targets.
The suspension of disbelief required for this outrageous concoction is only for the hard-core conspiracy theorist. For a start, they conveniently skip over the awkward fact that there weren’t any Arabs on the planes. If there were, one must speculate that they somehow got on board without being filmed by any of the security cameras and without being registered on the passenger lists. But the curly question of how they are supposed to have got on board is all too mundane for the exciting world of the conspiracy theorist. With vague mumblings that they must have been using false ID (but never specifying which IDs they are alleged to have used, or how these were traced to their real identities), they quickly bypass this problem, to relate exciting and sinister tales about how some of the fictitious fiends were actually searched before boarding because they looked suspicious. However, as inevitably happens with any web of lies, this simply paints them into an even more difficult corner. How are they supposed to have got on board with all that stuff if they were searched? And if they used gas in a confined space, they would have been affected themselves unless they also had masks in their luggage.
’Excuse me sir, why do you have a boxcutter, a gun, a container of gas, a gas mask and an electronic guidance unit in your luggage?’ ’A present for your grandmother? Very well sir, on you get.’ ’Very strange’, thinks the security officer. ’That’s the fourth Arab man without an Arabic name who just got on board with a knife, gun or boxcutter and gas mask. And why does that security camera keep flicking off every time one of these characters shows up? Must be one of those days I guess...’
Asking any of these basic questions to a conspiracy theorist is likely to cause a sudden leap to the claim that we know that they were on board because they left a credit card trail for the tickets they had purchased and cars they had rented. So if they used credit cards that identified them, how does that reconcile with the claim that they used false IDs to get on to the plane? But by this time the fruit loop is in full swing, as the conspiracy theorist tries to stay one jump ahead of this annoying and awkward rational analysis. They will allege that the hijackers’ passports were found at the crash scenes. ’So there!’ they exalt triumphantly, their fanatical faces lighting up with that deranged look of one who has just a revelation of questionable sanity. Hmm? So they got on board with false IDs but took their real passports with them? However, by this time the fruit loop has been completely circumnavigated,and the conspiracy theorist exclaims impatiently, ’Who said anything about false IDs? We know what seats they were sitting in! Their presence is well documented!’ And so the whole loop starts again. ’Well, why aren’t they on the passenger lists?’ ’You numbskull! They assumed the identities of other passengers!’ And so on...
Finally, out of sheer fascination with this circular method of creative delusion, the rational sceptic will allow them to get away with this loop, in order to move on to the next question, and see what further delights await us in the unraveling of this marvelously stupid story. ’Uh, how come their passports survived fiery crashes that completely incinerated the planes and all the passengers? ’ The answer of course is that it’s just one of those strange co-incidences, those little quirks of fate that do happen from time to time. You know, like the same person winning the lottery four weeks in a row. The odds are astronomical, but these things do happen...
This is another favourite deductive method of the conspiracy theorist. The ’improbability drive’, in which they decide upon a conclusion without any evidence whatsoever to support it, and then continually speculate a series of wildly improbable events and unbelievable co-incidences to support it, shrugging off the implausibility of each event with the vague assertion that sometimes the impossible happens (just about all the time in their world). There is a principle called ’Occam’s Razor’ which suggests that in the absence of evidence to the contrary, the simplest explanation is most likely to be correct. Conspiracy theorists hate Occam’s razor.
Having for the sake of amusement, allowed them to get away with with the silly story of the 19 invisible Arabs, we move on to the question of how they are supposed to have taken over the planes. Hijacking a plane is not an easy thing to do. Hijacking it without the pilot being able to alert ground control is nearly impossible. The pilot has only to punch in a four-digit code to alert ground control to a hijacking. Unconcerned with the awkward question of plausibility, the conspiracy buffs maintain that on that Sept 11, the invisible hijackers took over the plane by the rather crude method of threatening people with boxcutters and knives, and spraying gas (after they had attached their masks, obviously), but somehow took control of the plane without the crew first getting a chance to punch in the hijacking code. Not just on one plane, but on all four. At this point in the tale, the conspiracy theorist is again forced to call upon the services of the improbability drive.
So now that our incredibly lucky hijackers have taken control of the planes, all four pilots fly them with breath-taking skill and certainty to their fiery end, all four pilots unflinching in their steely resolve for a swift meeting with Allah. Apart from their psychotic hatred of ’our freedoms’, it was their fanatical devotion to Islam which enabled them to summon up the iron will to do this. Which is strange, because according to another piece of hearsay peddled by the conspiracy buffs, these guys actually went out drinking and womanizing the night before their great martyrdom, even leaving their Korans in the bar — really impeccable Islamic behavior — and then got up at 5 am the next morning to pull off the greatest covert operation in history. This also requires us to believe that they were even clear-headed enough to learn how to fly the huge planes by reading flight manuals in Arabic in the car on the way to the airport. We know this because they supposedly left the flight manuals there for us to find.
It gets better. Their practical training had allegedly been limited to Cessnas and flight simulators, but this was no barrier to the unflinching certainty with which they took over the planes and skillfully guided them to their doom. If they are supposed to have done their flight training with these tools, which would be available just about anywhere in the world, it’s not clear why they would have decided to risk blowing their cover to US intelligence services by doing the training in Florida, rather than somewhere in the Middle East, but such reasoning is foreign to the foggy world of the conspiracy theorist, too trapped in the constant rotation of the mental fruit loop to make their unsubstantiated fabrications seem even semi-believable.
Having triumphantly established a circular delusion in support of the mythical Arabs, the conspiracy theorist now confronts the difficult question of why there’s nothing left of the planes. Anybody who has seen the endlessly-replayed footage of the second plane going into the WTC will realize that the plane was packed with explosives. Planes do not and cannot blow up into nothing in that manner when they crash.
Did the mythical Arabs also haul a huge heap of explosives on board, and manage to deploy them in such a manner that they went off in the exact instant of the crash, completely vapourizing the plane? This is a little difficult even for the conspiracy theorist, who at this point decides that it’s easier to invent new laws of physics in order to keep the delusion rolling along.
There weren’t any explosives. It wasn’t an inside job. The plane blew up into nothing from its exploding fuel load! Remarkable! Sluggishly combustible jet fuel which is basically kerosine,and which burns at a maximum temperature of around 800°C has suddenly taken on the qualities of a ferociously explosive demolition agent, vapourizing 65 tons of aircraft into a puff of smoke. Never mind that a plane of that size contains around 15 tons of steel and titanium, of which even the melting points are about double that of the maximum combustion temperature of kerosine — let alone the boiling point — which is what would be required to vapourize a plane. And then there’s about 50 tons of aluminium to be accounted for. In excess of 15 lbs of metal for each gallon of kerosine.
For the conspiracy theorist, such inconvenient facts are vaguely dismissed as ’mumbo jumbo’. This convenient little phrase is their answer to just about anything factual or logical. Like a conjurer pulling a rabbit out of a hat, they suddenly become fanatically insistent about the devastating explosive qualities of kerosine, something hitherto completely unknown to science, but just discovered by them, this very minute. Blissfully ignoring the fact that never before or since in aviation history has a plane vapourized into nothing from an exploding fuel load, the conspiracy theorist relies upon Hollywood images, where the effects are are always larger than life, and certainly larger than the intellects of these cretins. ’Its a well known fact that planes blow up into nothing on impact.’ they state with pompous certainty. ’Watch any Bruce Willis movie.
’ Care to provide any documented examples? If it’s a well-known fact, then presumably this well-known fact springs from some kind of documentation — other than Bruce Willis movies?
At this point the mad but cunning eyes of the conspiracy theorist will narrow as they sense the corner that they have backed themselves into, and plan their escape by means of another stunning backflip.
’Ah, but planes have never crashed into buildings before, so there’s no way of telling.’ they counter with a sly grin.
Well, actually planes have crashed into buildings before and since, and not vapourized into nothing.
’But not big planes, with that much fuel ’, they shriek in hysterical denial. Or that much metal to vapourize.
’Yes but not hijacked planes!’
Are you suggesting that whether the crash is deliberate or accidental affects the combustion qualities of the fuel?
’Now you’re just being silly’.
Although collisions with buildings are rare, planes frequently crash into mountains, streets, other aircraft, nosedive into the ground, or have bombs planted aboard them, and don’t vapourize into nothing. What’s so special about a tower that’s mostly glass? But by now, the conspiracy theorist has once again sailed happily around the fruit loop. ’Its a well-documented fact that planes explode into nothing on impact.
Effortlessly weaving back and forth between the position that it’s a ’well-known fact’ and that ’it’s never happened before, so we have nothing to compare it to’, the conspiracy theorist has now convinced himself (if not too many other people) that the WTC plane was not loaded with explosives, and that the instant vapourization of the plane in a massive fireball was the same as any other plane crash you might care to mention. Round and round the fruit loop...
But the hurdles which confront the conspiracy theorist are many, and they are now forced to implement even more creative uses for the newly-discovered shockingly destructive qualities of kerosine. They have to explain how the Arabs also engineered the elegant vertical collapse of both the WTC towers, and for this awkward fact the easiest counter is to simply deny that it was a controlled demolition, and claim that the buildings collapsed from fire caused by the burning kerosine.
For this, it’s necessary to sweep aside the second law of thermodynamics and propose kerosine which is not only impossibly destructive, but also recycles itself for a second burning in violation of the law of degradation of energy. You see, the kerosine not only consumed itself in a sudden catastrophic fireball, vapourizing a 65 ton plane into nothing, but then came back for a second go, burning at 2000°C for another hour at the impact point, melting the skyscraper’s steel like butter. And while it was doing all this it also poured down the elevator shafts, starting fires all through the building. When I was at school there was a little thing called the entropy law which suggests that a given portion of fuel can only burn once, something which is readily observable in the real world, even for those who didn’t make it to junior high school science. But this is no problem for the conspiracy theorist.
Gleefully, they claim that a few thousand gallons of kerosine is enough to:
* completely vapourize a 65 ton aircraft
* have enough left over to burn ferociously enough for over an hour at the impact point to melt steel (melting point about double the maximum combustion temperature of the fuel) and
* still have enough left over to pour down the elevator shafts and start similarly destructive fires all through the building.
This kerosine really is remarkable stuff! How chilling to realize that those kerosine heaters we had in the house when I was a kid were deadly bombs, just waiting to go off. One false move and the entire street might have been vapourized. And never again will I take kerosine lamps out camping. One moment you’re there innocently holding the lamp — the next — kapow! vapourized into nothing along with with the rest of the camp site, and still leaving enough of the deadly stuff to start a massive forest fire.
These whackos are actually claiming that the raging inferno allegedly created by the miraculously recycling, and impossibly hot burning kerosine melted or at least softened the steel supports of the skyscraper. Oblivious to the fact that the smoke coming from the WTC was black, which indicates an oxygen-starved fire — therefore, not particularly hot, they trumpet an alleged temperature in the building of 2000°C, without a shred of evidence to support this curious suspension of the laws of physics.
Not content with this ludicrous garbage, they then contend that as the steel frames softened, they came straight down instead of buckling and twisting and falling sideways.
Since they’ve already re-engineered the combustion qualities of jet fuel, violated the second law of thermodynamics, and re-defined the structural properties of steel, why let a little thing like the laws of gravity get in the way?
The tower fell in a time almost identical to that of a free-falling object, dropped from that height, meaning that it’s physically impossible for it to have collapsed by the method of the top floors smashing through the lower floors. But according to the conspiracy theorists, the laws of gravity were temporarily suspended on the morning of Sept 11. It appears that the evil psychic power of those dreadful Arabs knew no bounds. Even after they were dead, they were able, by the power of their evil spirits, to force down the tower at a speed physically impossible under the laws of gravity, had it been meeting any resistance from fireproofed steel structures originally designed to resist many tons of hurricane force wind as well as the impact of a Boeing passenger jet straying off course.
Clearly, these conspiracy nuts never did their science homework at school, but did become extremely adept at inventing tall tales for why.
’Muslim terrorists stole my notes, sir’
’No miss, the kerosine heater blew up and vapourized everything in the street, except for my passport.
’You see sir, the schoolbus was hijacked by Arabs who destroyed my homework because they hate our freedoms.
Or perhaps they misunderstood the term ’creative science’ and mistakenly thought that coming up with such rubbish was, in fact, their science homework.
The ferocious heat generated by this ghastly kerosine was, according to the conspiracy theorists, the reason why so many of the WTC victims can’t be identified. DNA is destroyed by heat. (Although 2000°C isn’t really required, 100°C will generally do the job.) This is quite remarkable, because according to the conspiracy theorist, the nature of DNA suddenly changes if you go to a different city. That’s right! If you are killed by an Arab terrorist in New York, your DNA will be destroyed by such temperatures. But if you are killed by an Arab terrorist in Washington DC, your DNA will be so robust that it can survive temperatures which completely vapourize a 65 ton aircraft.
You see, these loonies have somehow concocted the idea that the missile which hit the pentagon was not a missile at all, but one of the hijacked planes. And to prove this unlikely premise, they point to a propaganda statement from the Bush regime, which rather stupidly claims that all but one of the people aboard the plane were identified from the site by DNA testing, even though nothing remains of the plane. The plane was vapourized by the fuel tank explosion maintain these space loonies, but the people inside it were all but one identified by DNA testing.
So there we have it. The qualities of DNA are different, depending upon which city you’re in, or perhaps depending upon which fairy story you’re trying to sell at any particular time.
This concoction about one of the hijacked planes hitting the Pentagon really is a howler. For those not familiar with the layout of the Pentagon, it consists of 5 rings of building, each with a space inbetween. Each ring of building is about 30 to 35 ft deep, with a similar amount of open space between it and the next ring. The object which penetrated the Pentagon went in at about a 45-degree angle, punching a neat circular hole of about a 12-foot diameter through three rings (six walls). A little later a section of wall about 65 ft wide collapsed in the outer ring. Since the plane which the conspiracy theorists claim to be responsible for the impact had a wing span of 125 ft and a length of 155 ft, and there was no wreckage of the plane, either inside or outside the building, and the lawns outside were still smooth and green enough to play golf on, this crazy delusion is clearly physically impossible.
But hey, we’ve already disregarded the combustion qualities of jet fuel, the normal properties of common building materials, the properties of DNA, the laws of gravity and the second law of thermodynamics, so what the hell — why not throw in a little spatial impossibility as well? I would have thought that the observation that a solid object cannot pass through another solid object without leaving a hole at least as big as itself is reasonably sound science. But to the conspiracy theorist, this is ’mumbo jumbo’. It conflicts with the delusion that they’re hooked on, so it ’must be wrong’ although trying to get then to explain exactly how it could be wrong is a futile endeavour.
Conspiracy theorists fly into a curious panic whenever the Pentagon missile is mentioned. They nervously maintain that the plane was vapourized by it’s exploding fuel load and point to the WTC crash as evidence of this behavior. (That’s a wonderful fruit loop.) Like an insect which has just been sprayed, running back and forth in its last mad death throes, they first argue that the reason the hole is so small is that plane never entered the wall, having blown up outside, and then suddenly backflip to explain the 250 ft deep missile hole by saying that the plane disappeared all the way into the building, and then blew up inside the building (even though the building shows no sign of such damage). As for what happened to the wings — here’s where they get really creative. The wings snapped off and folded into the fuselage which then carried them into the building, which then closed up behind the plane like a piece of meat.
When it suits them, they’ll also claim that the plane slid in on its belly (ignoring the undamaged lawn) while at the same time citing alleged witnesses to the plane diving steeply into the building from an ’irrecoverable angle.’ How they reconcile these two scenarios as being compatible is truly a study in stupidity.
Once they get desperate enough, you can be sure that the UFO conspiracy stuff will make an appearance. The Arabs are in league with the Martians. Space aliens snatched the remains of the Pentagon plane and fixed most of the hole in the wall, just to confuse people. They gave the Arabs invisibility pills to help get them onto the planes. Little green men were seen were seen talking to Bin Laden a few weeks prior to the attacks.
As the nation gears up to impeach the traitor Bush, and stop his perpetual oil war, it’s not helpful to have these idiots distracting from the process by spreading silly conspiracy theories about mythical Arabs, stories which do nothing but play into the hands of the extremist Bush regime.
At a less serious time, we might tolerate such crackpots with amused detachment, but they need to understand that the treachery that was perpetrated on Sept 11, and the subsequent war crimes committed in ’retaliation’, are far too serious for us to allow such frivolous self-indulgence to go unchallenged.
Those who are truly addicted to conspiracy delusions should find a more appropriate outlet for their
Paranoia.
It’s time to stop loony conspiracy theories about Sept 11.
And I didn’t even include the Collapse of WTC 7 in my arguments.
It was never even hit by a plane. Nor had any structural damage.
But because the media and our government lies to the america public about what actually caused 9/11 we are now stuck fighting a eternal war on terrorism which will destroy America and every thing it once stood for. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 4:50:06 PM | | I don't think insulting people in the thread title is a good way to get their attention. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 8:04:33 PM |
I remember reading stories like this when Clinton was President. The right was saying the the "boogieman" was gonna get us and we are all doomed because of Presidential Directives...now the "boogieman" has changed parties and he's coming at us from the right.
Well remembering something is a start and when you put 2+2 together and find the end result is they're all working towards a common goal, you might might just say "By golly, I got it"! | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 9:39:07 PM | *thebestguyhere* in no way did I invoke the 9/11 myth, so really great copypasta. Hopefully right off of some crack pot website, these are the facts I am giving here, read it, you might just learn something.
I am not citing what someone else said, these are the words right from the Executive horse's mouth. I don't understand why you went at great lengths to tell me what "YOU" think about the 9/11 truth movement.
Yes I did cite "some" websites in which they do talk about the theory, but I also citied many others in which this forum is about.
Sorry folks for the *thebestguyhere*, he just needed to get that off his chest, wrong thread. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 10:27:29 PM | | I getting to the point that I am expecting some giant volcano to explode like what happened when Tambora exploded in Indonesia in 1815 which led to a year without a summer (knock on wood). Imagine what would happen if something like that happened today. Food riots are already happening now. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 10:42:26 PM | Well, hopefully I am not right...
I have come to believe that maybe, that without starting economic depression, or destroying any kind of buildings, or losing any type of police or military, that a man made pandemic, influenza or another type of virus would be the perfect. No destruction of property, or loss of military power.
These facilities being built are not to process, these facilities are holding bunkers, not an in and out operation.
Hopefully, I am not right, hopefully, it doesn't happen, and if it does, I hope there is little to no loss of life.
Hopefully we stand up to this Police State and show them their protection, their strangle hold on us will not be taken lightly. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 11:04:28 PM | Charles,
Believe me when I tell you, I believe George W. is one evil b@$t@rd. What I wouldn't put past him fits on the head of a pin, but I think you're getting a little carried away.
Are you getting enough sleep? | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 11:34:46 PM | Hey "The best guy here" if you're going to copy and paste whole hog from another website, put some freaking citations, and keep the paragraphs.
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/DCTPFA911.html
It's much easier to read on that site.
I don't think insulting people in the thread title is a good way to get their attention.
They know that most people are going to reject their theories, so they start out with the personal attack. | |
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Posted: 4/10/2008 11:49:49 PM |
Conspiracy theorists ain't too bright I can't believe that people buy this stuff :) - thebestguyhere
> Imagine this. It is the summer of 2001, and someone presents you with a script for a movie or book that tells how a diabolical terrorist plot unfolds wherein both 110-storey World Trade Centre towers and part of the Pentagon are destroyed by commercial jets hijacked and flown into those structures.
> Of course you would laugh, and if you were a movie mogul or book editor, reject it out of hand as ridiculous and implausible, even for a fictional novel or movie. After all, how could a commercial jet, being tracked on radar after two jets had already hit the World Trade towers, make it through America's air defences, into the most sensitive airspace in the world, and in broad daylight on a crystal clear day, slam into the Pentagon? And this in a country that spends over $1 billion a day to defend itself! Absurd, illogical - nobody would swallow it!
> Unfortunately, there are some of us who have seen these scripts - and of far worse things to come - and we are not laughing.
> Best wishes - Soul Union. | |
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Posted: 4/11/2008 12:35:22 AM |
Of course you would laugh, and if you were a movie mogul or book editor, reject it out of hand as ridiculous and implausible, even for a fictional novel or movie. After all, how could a commercial jet, being tracked on radar after two jets had already hit the World Trade towers, make it through America's air defences, into the most sensitive airspace in the world, and in broad daylight on a crystal clear day, slam into the Pentagon? And this in a country that spends over $1 billion a day to defend itself! Absurd, illogical - nobody would swallow it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_of_Honor
An embittered Japan Air Lines pilot whose son was killed during the Pacific conflict flies his Boeing 747 directly into the U.S. Capitol building during the State of the Union with President Durling attending. He does so to avenge the deaths of his brother and son during the war. Nearly the entire United States presidential line of succession is eliminated.
Heh it got published. In 1994. | |
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| PDD 51: Read Up Sheep-ple
Posted: 4/11/2008 5:44:02 AM | I just know that the government gets away with a lot of shit.
I have worked for the Us mint, the IRS (still working for), and I did a little work for Raytheon, yes the were entry level positions, but they always have special treatment by other companies, the us mail, and telecommunications. They could put something right in your face, and you not even know it.
Well this time, I want to shake it in front of your face, goddammit you might not see it again, but someone might wise up.
Some people see it like they are taking us to this NEW WORLD ORDER, with peace, love, harmony, and freedom, taking you to pasture, as I see it they are just leading us to slaughter. | |
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| PDD 51: Read Up Sheep-ple
Posted: 4/11/2008 6:10:58 AM | I also do believe that yes, I am getting a little carried away. I just feel that an armed, ready, and informed public, is the best opposition to tyrannical dictators.
This is all my opinion, you can call it bullshit, but you do need to face the facts.
George Bush passed several Executive orders, that at this time are deemed unnecessary and very peculiar.
Camps are being built, over 800 to my count, around cities, which the government allowed FEMA to build in case of a catastrophic event, or mass vaccinations need one be due to a pandemic.
These executive orders when given, do null the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, and when a event does occur, all the executive orders can and will be placed, by the new appointed director of the government, of all branches, at once.
Now yes in a Catastrophic Event, I do want my government to take up arms and help the cause, but as we have seen in the past couple of such events, they only want what is good for themselves.
Our Four Fathers fought against such legislation for this country, and wanted a place of values and morals, and peace. Now on the edge of a all out war between the government and its people for stepping on such rights given by great men, I ask who will take up arms.
I do not want the government to have such rights which impose on my own.
Knowledge is power, an informed public is a powerful and caring force. | |
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| PDD 51: Read Up Sheep-ple
Posted: 4/11/2008 6:21:15 AM | Yawn...same shite different day.
I believe "current events" are within the last two weeks.
Hence this should be deleted. | |
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| PDD 51: Read Up Sheep-ple
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:13:41 PM | JUST HOLD ON A FRIGGIN MINUTE HERE!
Aliens DID replace Nixon with a clone.
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Posted: 4/11/2008 10:25:25 PM | | I did not mean to insult when I posted I really was very stoned and at least I got a buzz tonight..I actually believe in many different things but realize there's nothing I could do about something like this? Conform? I think not.....Observe, not Obey.. | |
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Posted: 4/12/2008 6:49:40 AM | [JUST HOLD ON A FRIGGIN MINUTE HERE!
Aliens DID replace Nixon with a clone. ]
Wow, really, thanks for proving a point. Most Americans when they hear something like this, they blow it off, sorry you are so ill informed.
Maybe instead of making a stupid comment on such a hot subject, you maybe COULD learn something.
But unfortunately you probably did not read the topic at all, you probably saw someone call it a "Conspiracy Theory" and thought that maybe a idiotic statement would tie things together, well thanks but no thanks.
[ I actually believe in many different things but realize there's nothing I could do about something like this? Conform? I think not.....Observe, not Obey..;]
Yes, There is nothing you can do, AT ALL, it is already law now, just waiting on some event, but maybe inform the ill informed about what they can do to protect themselves.. | |
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