| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 9:45:57 AM | Seeing that Ask a Girl/Ask a Guy forums are the places where profile reviews (and number of other redundant threads) proliferate, wouldn't it make sense to institute voting for deletion in those forums?
It seems that half of the threads that are posted in those forums are reported and deleted evenutally and this would help end their lives sooner...
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 10:32:13 AM | Some are fun... grandpa in yellow spandex will stay with us forever.
But others... ohhh... sometimes I feel like I want to hurt them.
Vote button? Please...
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 10:47:40 AM | From what I've read, if the Admin and most of the Mods had their way, both categories would be trashed.
Sure Cass, some of 'em are worth the daily guffaw, but for the most part
I agree with you. It might force me to use my brain on the current events or some
other worthwhile thread....
Like Health and Fitness..... Naw, tried that. Too much steroidal angst.... | |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 11:16:22 AM | From what I've read, if the Admin and most of the Mods had their way, both categories would be trashed.
Let's just clear up that line to read more acurately as follows:
From what I've read, if the Admin and most of the Mods had their way, both categories would be trashed.
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 11:17:37 AM | From what I've read, if the Admin and most of the Mods had their way, both categories would be trashed.
Admin is the OWNER, if he wanted it trashed, it would be.
I do agree though that the moderators are less than impressed with this forums.
That being said, I had inquired a while ago about why there wasnt a vote to delete button available in those forums. I was told it was because Admin wanted these forums to be newbie friendly. Perhaps a mod can come in and comment.
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edited to add: looks like a mod came in and was typing something very similar at the same time as me, damn you trapped you beat me by a few seconds... again! | |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 11:35:32 AM | I used to think that a voting function would help get rid of the "nice guy" and the other redundant threads in the Ask a Guy/Girl forum, but looking at what gets voted in lately on the other forums where there is a vote function has made me wonder if it would help at all.
There are so many threads right now on the forums that are completely off topic to the forum they are in, or that are just plain attention seeking or that are so ridiculously redundant that they are actually used as an example of redundancy in the Rules but yet they still got voted in to stay. Okay I feel better now that I got that off my chest and I'll get off my soap box now. 
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 11:55:15 AM |
There are so many threads right now on the forums that are completely off topic to the forum they are in, or that are just plain attention seeking or that are so ridiculously redundant that they are actually used as an example of redundancy in the Rules but yet they still got voted in to stay. Okay I feel better now that I got that off my chest and I'll get off my soap box now.
Oldsoul you should do what I do.
When I see a thread that so clearly deserves to be nuked yet for some reason people are voting to keep it, I'll email a mod and let them take a peakie at it so they can see what users are voting to keep such a bad thread so they can potentially revoke that users ability to vote on threads. | |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 12:02:35 PM | From what I've read, if the Admin and most of the Mods had their way, both categories would be trashed.
For many Years Moderators have requested the Admin implement the Voter Function for those Forum Categories. As usual, executed by the Corporate Playbook: No Response.
I was told it was because Admin wanted these forums to be newbie friendly.
I am not aware of any such Quote. It was quietly thrown out there with little more Fanfare than a Couple of Lines what its Purpose was and who can post there.
The Admin achieves absolutely nothing by not employing the Voter Feature in the Ask a Girl/Ask a Guy Forums. In Fact all it does is attract Trolls which produce and result in unnecesary Bans & Posting Restrictions, and keep Moderators overloaded cleaning up what would be better dealt with by the User Base. And he already knows all of that.
Anywho, no Point pissing into the Wind.
I used to think that a voting function would help get rid of the "nice guy" and the other redundant threads in the Ask a Guy/Girl forum, but looking at what gets voted in lately on the other forums where there is a vote function has made me wonder if it would help at all.
Some Moderators haven't been around for a while so the ManPower Meter has been running a little flat. Nevertheless, I'll keep my Eyes on it a Bit more.
There are so many threads right now on the forums that are completely off topic to the forum they are in, or that are just plain attention seeking or that are so ridiculously redundant that they are actually used as an example of redundancy in the Rules but yet they still got voted in to stay.
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 12:08:08 PM | Admin is the OWNER, if he wanted it trashed, it would be.
I know the Admin is the OWNER, and thank you for the clarification Trapped.
And let me stand by my post.... "From what I've read".... Not saying it was FACT...
But live and learn.
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 12:20:45 PM | I know the Admin is the OWNER
Not that it matters, but I'm curious from what you've heard, the possible reasons why the owner would keep a feature that they didnt want to keep (ie: if he had his way), that just seems a bit odd to me. Either way, I was just clarifying that the admin was the owner because obviously someone out there doesn't know this fact if what you've heard is that he can't edit his site to how he wants to. It wasn't meant as a peronal attack
I am not aware of any such Quote. It was quietly thrown out there with little more Fanfare than a Couple of Lines what its Purpose was and who can post there.
Blame it on Trapped.  He said it. Just to be clear though, it wasnt a quote from the forums. It was a privately asked and addressed question. | |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 12:38:59 PM |
The Admin achieves absolutely nothing by not employing the Voter Feature in the Ask a Girl/Ask a Guy Forums. In Fact all it does is attract Trolls which produce and result in unnecesary Bans & Posting Restrictions, and keep Moderators overloaded cleaning up what would be better dealt with by the User Base.
Again, just continue to report in the Forum Rule Violations Report Thread.
For the most part, that's what I do....But, sometimes I do not resist and point out to the problems with such threads (so, then I break the rules... and get sent to the banned camp... I know - my own fault, am not complaining about that)... and then there are smart a$ses who will say "if it's redundant, don't post", "let people be", "who made you the forum police?"... or worse. 
Heck, there are at least 3 threads like that in Ask a Girl right now, where other users are saying that it's ok to post troll threads... So, they are basically encouraging such behavior. 
Anyway... twas my little rant. I was just wondering if there is a specific reason not to have vote on those forums. Now I know. Thanks.
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 12:53:34 PM | For the most part, that's what I do....But, sometimes I do not resist and point out to the problems with such threads (so, then I break the rules... and get sent to the banned camp... I know - my own fault, am not complaining about that)... and then there are smart a$ses who will say "if it's redundant, don't post", "let people be", "who made you the forum police?"... or worse.
Exactly. It goes Way beyond just wasting Time booting off Trolls, but Members of the User Base also sometimes get implicated in an Attempt to make the OP aware of the Rules.
Heck, there are at least 3 threads like that in Ask a Girl right now, where other users are saying that it's ok to post troll threads... So, they are basically encouraging such behavior.
Report them too.
I was just wondering if there is a specific reason not to have vote on those forums.
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 1:05:19 PM | Done in the classic Corporate Play Book Format by dealing with Matters by furnishing no Response.
So, in the top secret ModForum there is at least one (or 700) thread(s) on "Why does HE read and delete my Messages? Is there something wrong with my moderating profile?" OR "If he read BUT did not delete yet, perhaps he will furnish a Response or allow "vote" button in that annoying board..."
I am tempted to come up with many other topics that could be posted on ModForum, but something tells me I better shut up now.... food in the banned camp is... not so great to say the least.
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 1:16:44 PM | I am tempted to come up with many other topics that could be posted on ModForum, but something tells me I better shut up now.
food in the banned camp is... not so great to say the list.
You mean to tell me you cannot feel the Revival of the deep virtual "Bread & Water" Soul Cleansing within? ... |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 1:30:37 PM | | I am all for not having the delete button. The time it takes to report and delete it, gives me a chance to stretch the wings of my sarcasm with no long lasting ill effects. | |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 2:52:51 PM | | Well if they attract allot of profile review what about a vote to move to profile reviews button? I bet you could set the threshold at 3 and it would work fine. | |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 3:13:30 PM | Well if they attract allot of profile review what about a vote to move to profile reviews button? I bet you could set the threshold at 3 and it would work fine.
| Wouldn't be too much of a Stretch then for the entire User Base to move every Thread to its proper Place. I'd like to see the Voter |
Thread Function everywhere incl. the Local Forums except this Plentyoffish Site/Suggestions/Help Category.
That would cut Forum Reports down by about 70% from their current Levels and leave Moderators to attend to more important Matters.
Perhaps some Day this will become 'Google Dating' or something like that and then they'll put all the automated Chips into their proper Contexts. |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 6:57:05 PM |
That would cut Forum Reports down by about 70% from their current Levels and leave Moderators to attend to more important Matters.
I fail to understand what could possibly be more important than reading and evaluating the worth of such classic threads as: 'The Giant Vagina That Ate Yorkshire', 'What's Wrong With Dating Someone in Prison?', and 'Are Rashes a Turnoff?'. If you are trying to say you have more important things to do than reading high quality and heartrending topics such as those mentioned above, then I am stunned with disbelief. People poured their hearts, souls, and several other unexplained (and, in a few cases, still unidentified) body parts into those epic tales. I am hurt by your callous dismissal of such worthy prose (even if they did get deleted). | |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 7:12:18 PM | I fail to understand what could possibly be more important than reading and evaluating the worth of such classic threads as: 'The Giant Vagina That Ate Yorkshire', 'What's Wrong With Dating Someone in Prison?', and 'Are Rashes a Turnoff?'. I am hurt by your callous dismissal of such worthy prose (even if they did get deleted).
| Exactly. My Energies are better served dealing with User Log-in, E-Mail & Posting Issues than running after another "Is nudity really nudity?" Thread. |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 7:35:44 PM | Oh please I beg all the grand 'ol Moderators to please PLEASE add a box with HUGE BIG BLACK BOLD LETTERING to say that the Relationship Forum is NOT for asking specific advice but for discussing General Relationship Issues that applies to everyone ONLY.
Another thing that might be helpful - when choosing to select a reason to delete a thread, there's an option that says " Off topic to forum". I think it might be better if it said " Off topic to THIS particular forum" instead. This way people would see that although it might be a valid subject, it isn't for this particular forum.
And there should be an instant delete button allowed for any thread that is started that has another user's name in it. And since the moderators now see who votes, I don't see how this function could be abused. And if by chance it was, then the "deleter" could be "punished" accordingly:)
Sigh...I know...I have WAY too much time on my hands. 
PS: What just happened to the report thread?!? All the reports are gone! Everything has been wiped clean:( | |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 8:27:27 PM | Those forums aren't for regulars, the vast majority of people who post in there have made their first visit to the forums.
Never saw that Post. Thanks for pointing that out.
Nevertheless, anyone can post anywhere, and these Categories do not dismiss any Portion of the Rules, esp. those posted at the top of that Forum Category which is the first Thing Users, new or old should familiarize themselves with. The Problem lies with the Fact they don't read them, and are not freely allowed to Troll these Forums because anybody is a Newbie. That would only approve of bad posting Habits which will manifest themselves elsewheres on other Forums shortly afterwards, and we end up with a bigger Mess to run after.
We were there 4 Years ago, never again. Searching for an existing Thread and posting on it is not exactly Rocket Science even for any Newbie. They are not excused, nor allowed to prevade the Forums with Chat, Pity & Billboard Threads. For the most Part, most Newbies do post pretty well spot on when they first arrive here, thus no Reason to permit Trolls their Day in the Sun.
| Once User Base Voting is implemented, they'll pretty quickly catch on why their Thread has been deleted, and may overcome their laziness |
to read up on the basic No-Nos. If nothing other than that comes out of it, then it will have been well worth it.
In part, the Problem also lies with the 3 Day new Thread Creation Requirement which is far too short to get anyone's Feet wet enough to make a New Thread.
Furthermore, Moderators are tired cleaning up those Forums. They consume more of our Attention that all Global Forums combined. |
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| voting to delete in Ask a Girl/Ask a guy
Posted: 4/10/2008 8:53:09 PM |
Those forums aren't for regulars, the vast majority of people who post in there have made their first visit to the forums. Never saw that Post. Thanks for pointing that out.
I wonder if it's still true today that the majority of thread starters, in those forums, are newbies making their 1st post?
I notice that some posters starting threads in those forums are newbies. But I alsso notice that there's become several serial thread starters in those forums.
That would only approve of bad posting Habits which will manifest themselves elsewheres on other Forums shortly afterwards I'll agree.
If the forums were meant to be "get your feet wet" forums for newbies, then they should be forums were newbies learn the rules that apply to the forums.
By ignoring rule violations, in those forums, bad habits will be formed, and begin to spread. | |
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