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Posted: 4/11/2008 7:35:49 AM | | Im wondering if anyone has information on injection that happen at child birth and the right to refuse any and all vaccinations? I have a fair idea that alot of the drugs given to kids cause more problems then help....but im looking for any info on this subject | |
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Posted: 4/11/2008 12:35:22 PM | Vaccinations are currently a huge "issue" in the USA.
They obviously help prevent a lot of disease, but the US govt has just admitted that a healthy child developing autism was caused by a vaccination a couple weeks earlier.
Vaccines are of course extremely big business for BigPharma.
A terrible dilemma for parents.
The Supreme Court is likely to hand down a verdict soon that will say as long as a treatment, eg a vaccine, is FDA-approved and applied as approved, then any negative side effects, injuries, or deaths will be exempt prosecution, protecting BigPharma from all liability.
iow, the FDA is infallible and anything FDA-approved will be free from all liability. BigPharma has been spending many $Ms for years to obtain this ruling. | |
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Posted: 4/11/2008 3:25:09 PM | | Im looking for info on the effects on the child as well as the different drugs they inject them with...i now heard that vitamin K or something is being injected as well...i was looking for laws or anything to do wit. I mean im in Canada so im not sure if FDA effects us. So i was wondering if there was any law saying you have to vaccin your child or they will not be allowed in school.??? | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 4:24:30 AM | Well here in the UK there in no licence for it
But a child can die once they have had it there in a web site i will find the link and post it here soon | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 6:14:17 AM | | Ok thx would be much apprec.....i was also reading something about some babies dying from these Vacc shot cause they are injecting the virus into the baby, or some form of the virus.....i would think that in order to fight a virus you would use other means and not injecting them with this deadly disease. | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 2:50:59 AM | Cameron - this might be handy for you to read
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health_advice/facts/childhoodvaccinations.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination
The wiki article is especially informative | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 10:12:09 AM | This should answer your question.
A guy I recently met casually mentioned that he & his family were longtime mason's. I asked him how high up they were. He told me that they were high enough up that his kids were allowed to skip all immunization shots. Why I asked? What he told me next shocked me. He was actually helped by the upper member's to avoid immunization so that the mason bloodline would stay pure & strong. It sounds like they know something that we have only speculated on.
question everything,
dvotd2dm | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 3:41:26 PM | i had both of my children fully immunised, at birth , and all the follow up ones that they get, including the vitamin K at birth (which assists with blood clotting by the way)
personally, neither of my children have had any problems as a result of their immunisations, and when there is a life threatening epidemic i feel somewhat more secure for the fact that they have been immunised against that disease.
i know there are risks involved with immunisations, but from the data we are given it is very small.
the reason they inject children with a tiny sample of the virus is so that the childs own immune system can learn to recognise it and produce the anitbodies against it incase they are needed at a later time. . | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 6:26:16 AM | yeah i agree with messalina that you should have all the immunisation... i work on the doctor side and it's devastating to see lil kiddies getting life long problems because of some illness that could have easily be prevented....
at birth they inject mainly the mum rather than the child.... the only thing that is injected at birth is vitamin k which is to help clotting because sometimes mum can be deficient and if the hcild is deficient in vitamin K then the child can bleed to death... it's a vitamin... what harm can that do to your baby?
later on there are the immunisation... a lot of false things have been attributed to the vaccine. it's often a temporal association ... i doubt that any USA govt would come out and say vaccine cause autism.... i would advise you to look at the issue from the other side... look at the time when people got scared about vaccine and the immunisation rates dropped off.... the children rate of infection with disease goes skyrocket and look at the consequences of the disease... maybe you would think twice? | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 8:12:57 AM | "i doubt that any USA govt would come out and say vaccine cause autism"
In a recent court case, the US govt admitted exactly that. Big news a couple weeks ago.
More evidence that (environmental) mercury is poison, from coal plants (1000 new, dirty coal plants planned or under construction world-wide)
http://www.naturalnews.com/023123.html
Vaccines? OK. (if tested by independent 3rd parties, not by vaccine mfrs)
Mercury in vaccines? nein danke | |
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Posted: 5/4/2008 9:21:51 PM | The first injection given to a child after birth is a vitamin K injection. This helps with clotting and healing, as a newborn's liver is often immature (immature liver is why jaundice in newborns can quickly become a problem). Without this injection of vitamin K, the baby is at a higher risk of hemorrhage, whether it be from the cranial bruising associate with a vaginal birth or the cutting of the umbilical cord.
The other is for hepatitis B, the first of a three shot series to protect against the blood-born pathogen. This series, as a whole, provides, life-long protection against hepatitis B, a disease that causes long term liver damage.
In my opinion, the vaccines do more good than harm. I say this because the damage from the diseases the vaccines can help prevent is far worse than the damage than the damage from the vaccines. For example, rubella: In an adult or child, it's relatively mild infection; however, a pregnant woman (particularly in the first 10 weeks of pregnancy) exposed to rubella now has a child at risk for being born with rubella syndrome, which includes congenital cataracts, deafness, congenital heart defects, mental retardation, and cerebral palsy. Additionally, a newborn infected with rubella may need to be "isolated," as the newborn can shed the virus for up to a year.
Chickenpox (a.k.a. varicella) is another disease that can be particularly damaging. While the initial bout of the disease is, well, mostly annoying, the virus is a herpetic one, so it can hide in the nerve cells. Years later, the individual, usually an adult, will develop shingles, which is not only very painful but can cause permanent nerve damage.
Measles can lead to bronchitis, pneumonia, and enchephalitis (which can cause permanent brain damage).
Mumps can cause orchitis, which is inflammation of the testes... which can lead to a whole host of problems, including infertility.
Pertussis (or whooping cough) is crummy when your an adult, but it can kill a baby.
Tetanus vaccines protects against toxins of the clostridium bacteria that lives in the soil EVERYWHERE. This can cause painful muscle spasms and, if it affects the diaphragm, can cause respiratory distress and death.
Essentially, all of the childhood immunizations are a good thing. They aren't to keep your kid from getting the sniffles, they are life-saving preventative measures that rank right up there with healthy diet and exercise. And just about any infection can lead to high fever, which can cause meningitis If your concern is autism, which is a very valid concern, have the immunizations spaced. Rather than going in every thee to six months, go in every month or every few weeks. Get one shot at each visit. Talk to your doctor, I'm sure he or she will be more than willing to work with you on this, so long as your baby gets these immunizations. (And make sure they are documented in the immunization record, so you and your doctor both know what which ones the baby's had and which ones he still needs!) These immunization are sort of why you took folic acid and didn't smoke or drink during your pregnancy, to help make for a healthy baby that'll grow into a healthy adult.
I think a child with autism that is otherwise healthy is better than a parent out-living their child because of a preventable disease. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2008 2:09:10 AM | There are four types of immunity:
1. Active-Natural = Antibodies are formed by the body in the presence of an active infection. For example, when you get a cold. You're body fights off the infection and you are no longer a susceptible host to that strain of the common cold (but since there's over 200 strains, it's pretty much impossible to be immune to the common cold). This immunity is lifelong.
2. Active-Passive = This is when your body forms antibodies against antigens (pieces of the virus, dead or small amounts of the virus or toxoid). This immunity last for a very long time, but requires booster shots (think tetanus shots every 10 years).
3. Passive-natural = This is the immunity the newborn receives in the womb from immunity that passed through the placenta and after birth when imbibing colostrum (that clearish liquid new mothers produce before their milk comes in). Colostrum is brimming with antibodies; this immunity lasts about 6 to 12 months.
4. Passive-Artificial = This is an immune serum that made from another human or an animal that is injected. Used mostly for poisonings. This immunity last only a few weeks. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2008 5:02:48 PM | Injections like many things have benefits and risks. I'd say you're better off to allow children to have vaccines than to not. There have been polio and other harmful disease outbreaks in small towns where the people felt all their children should be vaccine free. This must at least be proof they work and do something important.
It's extremely rare to have side effects and it is terrible when they happen. But in all honestly I'd say it's worth it. People have been taking them for years and for the most part, our population seems pretty strong and healthy. (I'm not going to mention fat...) Also be aware in order for a person to get a lot of jobs you need to GET these vaccines at some point anyway. | |
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Posted: 5/7/2008 6:04:37 AM | Thanks for all your info, i been reading alot about it and watching alot of videos and there is a gentleman who has a book out at the moment called Health Myths Exposed
here is some of his info about Vaccines
http://thepeopleschemist.com/blog/index.php?s=vaccines
Common Vaccine Threatens Children
January 4th, 2008
The pertussis vaccine, administered via the DTP or DTaP vaccine, offers very little efficacy and is a risk to the health of our children. As shown in my book, Health Myths Exposed, natural alternatives to the real and present danger are a wiser decision - most have been buried by vaccine hype and blind faith in doctors among fearful parents.
When administered, the vaccine does in fact increase antibodies to pertussis (Bordetella) yet immunity is short lived and maybe even non existent. This fact was noted by the well respected medical journal Pediatrics when they published that only a small portion of pertussis cases can be prevented by immunization. Specifically, as shown by the Journal of the American Medical Association, immunity to pertussis declines by 50% between 1 month and 1 year after vaccination. Further, during a pertussis outbreak in Ohio, the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 82% of those who suffered from the disease had received regular doses of the vaccine.
Many health professionals advocate the use of the vaccine by asserting that the decline in pertussis over the last 100 years is attributed to the pertussis vaccination. This is false. Pertussis rates plummeted by 79% between 1900-1935. The pertussis vaccine was not introduced until 1940. A math lesson would be helpful.
Because the pertussis vaccine provides little benefit, does it make sense to expose children to the negative side effects associated with it? In a presentation to the Institute of Medicine, published in 1990, the public was informed of the following dangers:
- babies die at a rate 7 times greater than normal within 3 days of receiving the shot
- side effects include asthma and other auto-immune disorders
- encephalitis, leading to permanent behavioral changes such as lack of focus and poor problem solving skills can result as well.
Many are unaware of these facts simply because the IOM, CDC, AMA, AAP, WHO, UNICEF and the FDA are proving to be untrustworthy in the areas of immunization, due to financial conflicts of interest. As a result, they have endangered the health of children by not reporting safe and effective nutritional supplements that have proven to give substantial protection and treatment to pertussis.
Most notably, natural treatments include but are not limited to zinc, vitamin C and and beta carotene, as shown by Pediatrics and the University of Maryland Medical Center.
Still though, it is important to note that like vaccines, nutritional supplements are no silver bullet. However, considering the danger associated with the pertussis vaccination, it is both logical and scientifically sound to choose safe and effective natural remedies over vaccination.
References:
1. Miller, Neil. Vaccine’s, Are they Really Safe and Effective. ISBN-10: 1881217302 ISBN-13: 978-1881217305
Health Myths Exposed is available at www.healthmyths.net, bookstores, and Amazon.com. ISBN: 1-4208-0027-2
Library of Congress Control Number – 2004097437
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Posted: 5/7/2008 10:20:10 AM | I have a fair idea that alot of the drugs given to kids cause more problems then help....but im looking for any info on this subject
I gather from your profile that you are not a scientist or a physician.
The outcry againt immunization is frightening. I don't know what it is that makes normally intelligent people grab onto bad science and hold it up like the Holy Grail. Before the DPT shot was introduced, 17,000 children died in a single year in the United States alone in a diphtheria epidemic. Over the last several years, only a very few cases of diphtheria have been reported in the United States, though there were 3 outbreaks several years apart in an under-immunized part of the Seattle area.
And let's not forget about my favorite example, Measles, which was all but wiped out in North America 20 years ago. During 1988 through 1990, California experienced its worst measles epidemic in more than a decade, with 16,400 reported cases, 3,390 hospital admissions, and 75 deaths. More than half of the patients were younger than 5 years; the highest incidence was among infants younger than 12 months. The epidemic centered in low-income Hispanic communities in southern and central California. The major cause of the epidemic was low immunization levels among preschool-aged children and young adults.
Do immunizations increase the chance of autism? possibly. Does immunization prevent massive pandemics and thus save lives? Absolutely. | |
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Posted: 5/7/2008 11:46:03 AM | Vaccines and antibiotics, while all have their side effects and some side effects are worse than others, do serve a life-saving purpose, or at least improve the quality of life. And like most things in life, there are no guarantees. I know I've given up on the flu vaccine for myself, because every year I get the flu shot I get the flu and I get it bad (I know the flu shot I'm getting is simply for a few select strains and I'm contracting one not covered by the****ail). My mother and father, however, need the flu shot, as both are considered immuno-compromised from COPD and diabetes, respectively. But on the same token, I take no chances with tetanus--every 10 years, no questions about it...I enjoy going barefoot too much.
Essentially, what I'm saying is that you have to choose your battles wisely. You must decide for yourself what is safer. And you must weigh the benefits and the consequences carefully when deciding for your children. Is sterility something I want to risk for my son in order to possibly reduce his risk of autism? Am I really willing to risk losing my child to a childhood disease in order to reduce the risk of autism? Do I err on the side of caution? What is most important?
Consider, please, where your information comes from. The information I have posted and made my decisions with comes nearly verbatim from my textbooks and instructors, which, by the way, are quite neutral, promoting both pharmacologic AND non-pharmacologic interventions, such as tepid baths for fever and ambulation for constipation. Do not discount automatically mainstream theories simply because they are mainstream; often these are mainstream because they are tried and true. It is granted that sometimes these are wrong, as we ourselves are still discovering our world and learning more and more about ourselves; but for the moment what is accepted is such because it is currently the best possible answer for problem posed.
You can always change your mind. You can change the methods employed to rear your child. But you cannot change that which is gone. | |
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Posted: 5/10/2008 5:14:16 AM | | The risk of negative consequence from NOT having the injections are higher than risks of having them.And this is at invidual level alone,not to mention what would happen if many people would refuse from them.The diseases themself are not always so dangerous but many of them have really dangerous after disease risks.I'd think twice. | |
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Posted: 5/12/2008 6:31:09 AM | Do immunizations increase the chance of autism
Thanks for all your info. Im a researcher and as far, i have looked into this and from what im reading autism is not the ONLY RISK. Its one of many. I mean with all the money being made from people being ill and sick why wouldnt you think that money is GOD to the people how make these drugs and pills. People hold on to for dear life believing this is the way to a healthy life. When in fact the BIG dogs who run the pills could careless about your health. From other articles and books i been reading the idea that you believe the trials have been done is false.
The trials from what im reading are rigged to show the results the Pill pushers want you to see. Even going as far as giving shots to reduce the side effects of the pills as well as the shots.
Anybody else hear about these false trials ?
I mean i would never believe the major companies who alot of people depend on for answers. The money is the drive not your health. a healthy person is a lost client. So if they can feed you crap and more crap and give you false information on the foods for you and pills and etc ....its quite stupid that so many people are to afraid to look TRUTH in the face. | |
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Posted: 5/12/2008 1:46:45 PM | Sir, truth is not a black and white issue. Truth is very, very grey. And it comes from many perspectives. What I consider to be true may be a far cry different than that which you consider to be true.
In my truth, healthcare is focused on prevention. When prevention is not implemented, then treatment and prevention of relapse becomes the focus for that individual. Though, for some, no matter how much we teach and encourage, that individual doesn't care or just wants a magic pill... or, sadly, the family has their own ideas about how to care for that individual and those ideas just keep bringing them back.
In my truth, everyone is to blame. The individuals who abuse their bodies and then abuse and misuse their meds, mostly because they do not take initiative to learn about their condition/med/disease/etc or show the doctor the weird thing on their body because the doctor never asked about it specifically or it's too embarrassing. The nurses who are either over-worked, overwhelmed and under-appreciated (because the patients today are sicker than they were just 20 years ago--the folks on med/surg today would have been in ICU a couple of decades ago, and those in ICU now would have been dead) or there just to collect a pay check. The doctors who overbook and overlook because they have to get as many patients in a day so they can afford the extra five people on their office staff who just do insurance billing. The insurance companies who won't pay unless the bill is filled out with every code done exactly, and even then, some have policies to deny automatically the claim the first time it comes through or have will only cover certain aspects of treatment/procedure. The hospitals that are understaffed and/or scrambling to keep up with technology and can't accept patients because of that, even though they have empty beds. The pharmaceutical companies that are able to patent a drug and have a lock on it for seven years so they can fund research for the next drug, causing the price of medications to be outrageously high. The Government (local, state, and federal) falls to the whims of the lobbyists and special-interest groups and doesn't fund the FDA, a government entity which is so understaffed and underfunded that I'm surprised gumdrops haven't been approved to treat diabetes.
In my truth, the entire system is broken at each and every point. And, really, it always has been broken in some way or other. We cannot just point the finger at big corporations and nameless figures lurking in the background, but we also must point the finger at ourselves, as well. There are those who rally against it, who rise above and make a difference. But ultimately, it is static. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2008 5:35:19 AM | I agree the system is broke and we are to blame. The only problem with that is who would admit it ? Nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions thats why everyone wants push the blame on over. Then again how can anyone make GOOD choices in life when your never properly informed about anything that your given to eat ,drink, injections, etc..... There are so many things in life we are not informed about and we should take the reins and learn it for ourself. Again we are to busy getting a education for a job, paying bills, taking care of our families, getting home to watch you favourite TV show, cleaning, etc....always to busy for everything except our bodies(for most not all).
If the proper info about products were just given then maybe not as many ppl would be sick or overweight.
And it all starts from when your a baby with those injections. It doesnt take much to make your baby sick and from what i been gathering from here and books and videos and such, it does not look good for the childern. Everyone seems to be leaving the choices for your childs health in the hands of people who only care for making the all might DOLLAR.
Truth how to filter it so you get down to bare TRUTH.
Anyways have a great day
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Posted: 5/13/2008 10:08:57 PM | Often, the best information is the most current information. Just a few years ago, it was though that the aluminum in cooking pans and arm pit deodorant caused alzhiemers. Today, however, research shows that is not the case.
The great debate in psychology and medicine is Nurture Vs. Nature. But what if it is nurture AND nature? Environmental triggers for a disease one is already predisposed to. And then there's genetic diseases you can't do anything about, no matter how lean and green you are. And perhaps it's all hype? We live in an age where information is transmitted in the blink of an eye or faster--the earthquake in China yesterday hit the news minutes after it happened. And for that reason, we live in a constant state of fear. When is the next Great Depression? What's going to cause the next pandemic? Who is going to survive? Music, TV, movies, e-books, digital periodicals, my space, wiki-everything, you tube, you porn, even this forum; information reaches millions of people everyday. A vice and a virtue. Information is far easier to access than it was just 15--nay 10 years ago (I remember having to pour through 20-year-old encyclopedias to do report), but it can also spread half-baked and erroneous theories faster than a southern California wildfire.
My own half-baked theory is that all of this--Ebola; AIDS; SARS; Osama's Jihad; Bush's Iraqi Freedom; Mad Cow; Autism; Creutzfeldt-Jakob; West Nile Virus; tsunamis; hurricanes; wild fires; MRSA; cancer; Darfur; PLO; SIDS; meth; heroin; AK-47s; Avian Flu; nuclear weapons; Sierra Leone; earthquakes; diabetes; tornados; school shootings; blizzards; global warming; the internet; Hanta virus; panic--all of it is a Nature's elegant and complex way of putting a cap on population. Because as brilliant as we are, brilliant enough to map the human genome, to go to space, to travel to the deepest depths of the sea, we are still dumb enough to keep on trying to both cause and cure death. We just keep on rallying against disaster, all the while throwing kindling on the bonfire that's burning us alive.
Don't get me wrong. I love my computer and the internet it connects me to. And I REALLY, REALLY love sex and just plain being in the company of others. And I'm going to keep on living in California. And I'm going to keep listening to metal and gansta rap and emo and pop and jazz and opera and hip-hop and rock and anything else that I happen to fancy. And I'm probably never going to raise my own cow to slaughter for beef. And I doubt I'll ever go vegan. And I'm going to keep on taking diphenhydramine to treat my allergies and the acetominophen/ibuprophen/naprozen/caffeine mix that I've developed to ease my headaches. And I'm going to say, "Yes, sir!" when my Doctor writes me scrip for antibiotics. And should I ever be crazy enough to have kids, I'm getting them immunized until there's definitive proof it'll cause them harm. | |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 3:36:59 PM | Funny. He's got something to sell.
And even if he wasn't selling anything, that's still just ONE person's opinion. There are millions more. Jack Lalanne has been preaching to the choir for nearly a century, and he was influenced by another man, Paul Bragg. And they still weren't exactly original in their thinking. C. Everett Koop. Harvey Kellogg.
You really want to cure all the diseases in the world without chemicals? Try eugenics. And that's been around for centuries, but for some reason, we consider most people who support it to be crazy. | |
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