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 Author Thread: Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
 Black velvet 46

Joined: 11/5/2007
Msg: 1
Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:10:38 PM
I overheard this conversation while playing poker the other day. Some guy was telling his buddy about this date he had. Seems he spent quite abit of money on this date and got "nothing in return" ( his words not mine).

He was saying that if a woman accepts an expensive dinner from a man, She is pretty much obligated to put out at the end of the night. If not she has broken some kind of unwritten rule.

Now i have no idea of what he looked at as expensive, But i am guessing anything over a few hundred dollars. If a woman accepts such a dinner from a man, is she them obligated to have sex with him?.

Have any of you women encountered this kind of man?
Can a woman be guilted into sex over an expensive dinner?
Would a man really accept guilt sex from a woman under those circumstances?

Honestly is there guys out there that have this kind of mentality?
 Blueeyedbaldman

Joined: 1/4/2008
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:13:49 PM
I havent even come close to that mentality and a woman is only obligated to do what she WANTS to do.
 VirgoGrl

Joined: 2/28/2008
Msg: 3
Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:14:27 PM
This man is living inthe Stone Ages. Clearly the signals he gave out to this woman are the ones you heard when he was playing poker...and she was smart enough to turn him down. But in all fairness I wouldn't accept a very expensive dinner from a man, especially one of only middle class means, if i didn't want to become intimate with him. He shouldnt expect it but he has the right to hope for it!
Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:17:07 PM
BV,

there are men out there that think if they buy a gal dinner off of the dollar menu at McDonald the gal is obligated to put out.

Since this rule is 'unwritten' then I can only guess it is one this guy and a few others who think like him made up on their own to try and guilt a woman into doing something she does not want.

Unfortunately, I have encountered this kind of guy. He did not get what he wanted since he could not back up his argument that I 'owed him' with proof of this oh-so-silly rule over a $60.00 dinner.

~tb~
 EruditeRedneck

Joined: 1/19/2008
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:18:42 PM
Only if she is a hooker and that is her price. Dump the creep.
 chicgeek007

Joined: 1/6/2008
Msg: 6
Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:35:48 PM
That would be a big N-O!

When I go out to dinner with a man, especially if it is a first date, I always offer to pay my own way. And if they suggest somewhere that is expensive I will try to steer them to something a little more moderate. They are usually gentleman enough to refuse my offer to pay. Geez, the few men I have gone to dinner with actually asked permission if they could kiss me. lol I can honestly (although my dating experiences are limited lol) say I have never encountered a man that expected sex after taking me to dinner.

It was his choice to take her somewhere that was expensive. If she suggested the place then he should have steered her to somewhere less pricey.

Next time if he wants a sure thing for his money then maybe he should dial 1-800-Get-Laid. Then he won't need to worry if he is getting his money's worth.

Seriously.... I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry at this guy's attitude.
 nexthyme

Joined: 9/12/2007
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:39:03 PM
Transparent butterfly is correct... I had went to meet this nitwit for a soda...He ordered himself some fungus cover burger that I could not stand seeing him eat... Of course I was trying to be really polite...

Talk about someone that is clueless to human behavior... He complained that I didn't look at him most of the time, and asked me why I was so insecure... ME???? I think not...No snob, but I certainly don't have a problem looking at someone I find interesting at the very least.

I couldn't wait to get out of there... Before leaving he asked me if he was going to my place, or was I following him to his place...

I wanted to vomit...

Yes, BV there are men who think if they buy you an expensive dinner, a cheap dinner, a soda, some how you are obligated to put out... In fact several weeks back this guy had it all planned out that I was supposed to bed him because he was nice to me... NOT EVEN...

He was upset, and complained that women who ask for things to slow down aren't interested in him... Then he went on to make himself really desirable, and said it usually happened AFTER they slept with him...

LOL, I'm thinking I spared myself a heck of a lot of misery of a bad experience if that is his typical experience...
 ~tag~

Joined: 2/7/2008
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 7:48:36 PM
Depends. How was the steak?

See fellas? This is why you should save your pennies until AFTER the sex - then if you and she decide to stay together, THAT's the time you go to 'hoity toity'.

Nah. An expensive meal is just an expensive meal. If I met someone that had that attitude, then we'd not make it to that meal for him to even have this concern in the first place. He could stay home, have a Kraft dinner, and then call over Rosie and her 5 sisters......................................... (and your questions? Yep I've met some, yes I'm sure some can be, and yes - I'm sure some would)
 Black velvet 46

Joined: 11/5/2007
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:11:55 PM
"several weeks back this guy had it all planned out that i was supposed to bed him because he was nice to me"

Wait a second, what's the point in being nice to a woman if you don't get her clothe off in the end?
 sxyvirgo

Joined: 7/26/2006
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:19:02 PM
Jeez....back in the old days it was bad form to accept "expensive" jewelry from a guy because it would look at though you'd obligated yourself to him....and NOW you can't even accept a nice dinner?! Is a cup of coffee over the line?!
 wondering1980

Joined: 1/18/2008
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:21:40 PM
nope and if i met a guy like this i would get him to spend more then ditch him just for being an ass about the date
 laughinglibra

Joined: 11/6/2007
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:21:46 PM
^^^^^ Nah... a cup of coffee is just a blowjob.
 spumoni spinoza

Joined: 2/27/2007
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:24:35 PM
Hell no! Just being allowed in my presence is compensation enough. But if I cook a fabulous dinner, I expect a lil sugar for mama.
 Bloom10

Joined: 3/30/2008
Msg: 14
Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:25:18 PM
Lets' not be ridiculous. If a woman feels obligated in that way, she should insist in paying 50/50. But what kind of woman would feel like that? Certainly nobody with a very basic sense of self-respect.
 caterpi966

Joined: 11/19/2006
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:28:03 PM
Unfortunately, there are men that think that they are buying more than dinner when they take a date out to a nice place. I don't understand the mentality, but then, I don't have to deal with it like women do. And we men sometimes wonder why they call us pigs.

And for my little oink tonight,,,,,,laughinglibra, which Starbucks would you like to meet at? Of course I expect to buy you the most expensive item on their menu.
 cobra194

Joined: 12/8/2007
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:34:02 PM
yes Im shore that goes on , you should tell him before he starts spending money on tea . No sex end of story .To many guys get the wrong Idea .Very often the girl lends these guys on Especially MSN . had a Girl send me a girl giving head . And then see says when are we gonna meet .......
 crazytimes1

Joined: 3/24/2008
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:48:04 PM
There is never an obligation.

Stupid buying an expensive dinner and expecting sex. I see it as sort of silly buying an expensive dinner anyhow, by far the best meals I have had with someone are all around $50, not including wine. The higher it gets past there, the worse the food gets.
 nexthyme

Joined: 9/12/2007
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 9:10:45 PM

Wait a second, what's the point in being nice to a woman if you don't get her clothe off in the end?


LOL, I did say how he THOUGHT he was being nice, just that HE thought he was being nice, and that by the third date, I would be putting out.... I told him whoa to fast for me, he flipped his wig, and said later...

Funny part was he had a creepy level going on by the second date, that I most certainly didn't have the heart to say it was never gonna happen...

He thought he left, saved me from hearing another whoa is me the Nicest guy you will ever meet" story...

As far as if a person is nice, they get my clothes off... Yeah, take a lot more than that to go there....Guess it all depends on what the END means
 Ms. Beavenhouse

Joined: 1/12/2008
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 9:21:01 PM
I have met men who think they can buy a woman but none of them would have openly admitted they had to pay for sex.

That sounds more like bravado then a real expectation. If he is serious, then someone should explain how the sex trade works because a hooker who is willing to sit through dinner with a bore is more then $200 a night.

I once had a man ask me to marry him after a few weeks of dating, when I said no. He offered to keep as his mistress instead. Even at 20 I knew enough to tell him to p*ss off.

It's amazing how morally bankrupt some people in the nicest wrappers can be.


 meteor 54

Joined: 2/10/2008
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Posted: 4/11/2008 9:32:55 PM

^^^^^ Nah... a cup of coffee is just a blowjob


Libra!
a LARGE or small cup?

Do you practice SAFE COFFEE?
 clasact

Joined: 1/18/2008
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 10:06:18 PM
Ah-uh, yeah, right ~rolls eyes~ Does this guys knuckles happen to drag the ground? He's a Neanderthal. And yes there are men out there who subscribe to this way of thinking, if you can call it thinking. And he says, "pretty much obligated to put out"?? Does he tell his dates this BEFORE or AFTER the expensive dinner? I wonder? He must not be able to get any _action_ with his personality, charm, wit, attraction.......oh, but from what you say, he HAS none, so, has to rely on expensive dinners to get his _action_? Poor man ~rolls eyes again~. Moron.

I would never accept an expensive dinner on the first date, whatsoever. And not at ANY time can a man make me _feel_ obligated to have sex for ANY reason. If anyone attempted and I say ATTEMPTED to TRY to make me feel that way, first they couldn't, but IF they tried, I would leave them in my dust without a word, hands down, period................holding the tab for the bill if they tried to pull that one on me. But I've never been treated in that manner either, I'm no idiot.

Sounds like this guy shoulda just picked him up a "pro" and ditched the dinner. That way he woulda been sure to have had sex............

I think it depends on who the woman is also. Some women (and men) are guilted into just about anything I think. I know people like that.
 k1w1angel

Joined: 3/17/2008
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 10:13:07 PM
Well Ive had a funny thing happen last year, went to dinner with this guy, half way through dinner he says, so how do you want to do this, dutch or what? I just looked at him and thought, are you kidding me?? Anyway, up and down through dinner while he runs outside for a smoke (ew, tactless) and when we got up to leave, I went to the counter, paid for the meal for us both (shut up I can hear you all going WTF) but I did it, he didnt offer anything, so Im storing this away thinking, this guy cant be real, we go back to his house supposedly for movie and drinks (I WAS naive back then) and HE THINKS hes going to get lucky, I looked at him, said are you kidding me? Got up and I left.
 bralda-him

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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 10:17:03 PM
A coffee is a blowjob? well no wonder girls don't want to grab a quick cup of coffee with me...haha

As for the dinner, I have found that if a girl is interested, she will let you do just about anything, including paying for dinner, drinks, and what ever else she wants from you.

If she is not interested she will pay for her share and leave. I have not bothered to call some girls they pay as they don't tend to pick up even if I do call. I will still never know why a girl would give out a home and cell number and not answer it when I do call.
 D_lily

Joined: 11/25/2007
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Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/11/2008 10:29:30 PM
You are kidding right? Dinner equates with sharing you're most personal expression of love is way to unbalanced. Anyone that thinks sex is "fair payment" for a meal has a serious problem with self worth.
 emt_b_engr

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Posted: 4/11/2008 10:31:47 PM

I will still never know why a girl would give out a home and cell number and not answer it when I do call.

Perhaps because it's easier for her than explaining why she doesn't want to give her number.
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