| Mark Speight found dead
Posted: 4/13/2008 10:30:50 AM | Well it looks like the tragic end to this story all were hoping would not happen has happened.
He has been found in a remote part of Paddington Station.
All my sympathies do out to both families, how awful for everyone.
I grew up with him on the telly and I loved him as a kid, how very tragic and may he now find the peace he couldn't while alive. | |
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| Mark Speight found dead
Posted: 4/13/2008 10:35:33 AM | well it seems an awful shame that two lives have now ended in tragedy.Hopefully he will have found peace | |
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| Mark Speight found dead
Posted: 4/13/2008 10:37:45 AM | LOL snap 925dancer .... So I thought I'd add mine to this thread and we'll have the one, if you don't mind?
Apparently Police have discovered a body, thought to be that of the missing CBBC presenter at a remote part of Paddington Station, after he went missing last week ..
Police have said that although he hasn't been formally identified, it is highly likely to be Mr Speight... They are treating his death as unexplained but have stated he was not hit by a train...
What a sad state of affairs, his girlfriend dead of an overdose, the revelation of his own drug addiction, the loss of his job ..
Yet another celebrity who's life spiralled into drug addiction and the horrors that go with it ..
I don't understand why so many celebrities fall into the drug trap.. Is it the pressure? Boredom? Ease of access? Peer pressure even? Doesn't anyone learn by seeing these heart wrenching tales of young lives cut short ?
So he's dead.. Was it worth it? Should he have been watched more carefully? I don't know it just seems such a waste...
Oh and on a lighter note.. Does Paddington REALLY have a remote area????
vv I do agree there 925 but is it the death of his partner or the guilt of providing her with the drugs that killed her that sent him over the edge? I guess we'll never know ... | |
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| Mark Speight found dead
Posted: 4/13/2008 10:47:01 AM | Sure, add away pants.
My Dad committed suicide in similar circumstances, he lost his partner to a heart attack after going into hospital with a heart attack so I don't necessarily think that his death can be linked to his drug problems. More his inability to come out of the dark after the death of his girlfriend.
Unfortunately in the entertainment industry drugs are just part of the job for many, they always have been.
Horribly tragic. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 10:47:42 AM |
I don't understand why so many celebrities fall into the drug trap.. Is it the pressure? Boredom? Ease of access? Peer pressure even? Doesn't anyone learn by seeing these heart wrenching tales of young lives cut short ?
I am sure that all these factors play a part. BUT the biggest factor is that celebrities are just as prone to drug abuse as any other human.
There are people found dead from drug overdoses every day somewhere in the UK. They just are not so noticeable or newsworthy as the celebritiy cases. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:01:31 AM | ^^ True, you really think the percentages work out to be pretty equal amongst the general populace and the celebrity group though?
What's so sad about this scenario, is it seems to be the result of a genuine accident and not uncontrollable drug addiction that affected every day life... but that's more likely my naivety than the truth.. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:14:49 AM | True, you really think the percentages work out to be pretty equal amongst the general populace and the celebrity group though?
No; obviously there are more people amongst the general populace.
But as he says though, if it's a celebrity doing something mildy interesting to magazine readers, or falling from grace, then it's consider worthy of national media coverage - after all, that's exactly the way our culture now works.
Although obviously I use the word "celebrity" loosely because I had no idea who Mark Speight was (and now that I do know I care even less)
Another self-destructive druggie "celebrity" down.
Oh well, I suspect I will still sleep soundly tonight
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:18:53 AM | | Very sad news yes. Although not sure why people end up in the situations they do. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:22:17 AM | | This, of course, is very sad indeed. But Brian is right - we hear about these cases because they involve people in the media - I'm not sure if the ratio of celebrities to normal civilians OD'd is the same but I hazard a guess that across the world several people a day die through OD - whether intentional or not. We don't hear about them because they involve people that no one (apart from their familes and friends) knows about, whereas celebrities have followings. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:23:27 AM | live by the sword die by the sword,
they knew what drugs do same as everyone else,
they chose to go down this path and yes become addicted but hey that what happens when you put a chemical in your body that is addictive,
if someone on the streets is found dead of a drug overdose, its oh well one less scum bag on the streets, but because it is someone off the television its a tragedy,
these were people who our children watched my son for one and even he knows enough about drugs to say well this is what happens when you take them.
do we really want these people representing what is out there for our children, we live in a world where many people use drugs and function ok on them every day, doctors, pilots, solicitors but to name a few,
people know what drugs can do and if they decide to start taking them then they know the risks, and if being a children's presenter or an actor is stressful then maybe they need to try being a single parent that works full time to put a roof over the children's head or a carer never getting a break from the 24hr shifts of caring for a loved one,
he's dead and she is dead because they made a choice in life that we could all make and they paid the highest price, sorry i don't find it sad i find it a waste of what could of been two good long lives  | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:27:59 AM | Sad I think yes when anyone loses a life but more a waste than anything.
2 lives, both lost to the affects of drugs! | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:31:44 AM | To clarify, we don't know how he died yet. It was probably suicide so as I said, not likely an overdose due to drug abuse.
To have no sympathy for a man who just couldn't find his way out of the grief and guilt he felt after losing the woman he loved is a little bit harsh, no matter what their recreational habits happened to be. He certainly did not expect to walk into his home one day and find his girlfriend dead in the bath from an overdose.
He was just a human being who found himself in a dark place and sadly couldn't see any other way out than to join her.
I will never understand why my Dad did it really and I'm sure their families will never truly know why both of them ended up the way they did.
I can only hope none of you ever find yourself in similar position. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:49:10 AM | ^^^ message 12 i have all the sympathy for the families of people who commit suicides it is a selfish act as their pain is gone but the loved ones they leave behind are left with the feeling of despair not knowing whether they could have done something to stop it.
but i cant have sympathy for those who do this selfish act and for that i am not sorry
whether he died of the drugs or out of grief there are now many people grieving over them both for the sake of not getting help | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 12:27:52 PM | | When anyone dies it is sad but to be honest they aren't people who really impacted my life in anyway and so I'm not that bothered. I feel for the people they left behind though, they are going to need their friends and family and the media to back off. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 1:21:32 PM | it is sad that it ended this way. Their friends and famillies now how to deaths to greive over.
The news is saying he was not hit by a train. Possible overdose. Maybe mugged and killed?
Ive also read that he was planning some form of tribute to help raise money for one of the charities that she supported, seems sad that it ended this way if he truely were planning something. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 1:43:55 PM | I really dont think its fair to comment at this stage when we have little or no facts other than he is definately brown bread and was discovered in this state at Paddington Station!!
Was it suicide? Did he accidently "Go over" ? When the truth comes out i will follow this thread with interest other than that its pure speculation at this point!!
Thoughts always for the family left behind . | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 2:40:57 PM | To have no sympathy for a man who just couldn't find his way out of the grief and guilt he felt after losing the woman he loved is a little bit harsh
In what way exactly is it "harsh" ?
Yes; I'm sure it was absolutely horrible for him but, no-one deserves that. But unless they were both morosely stupid, they knew what they were doing and what risks it entailed. I'm not going to feel particularly upset by the death of a random junkie - however he died.
If anything, people in this situation deserve complete and utter contempt. It's the people who fall into that "lifestyle" because they are down on their luck that deserve the sympathy, the ones who got a really shit hand in life. Certainly not the ones who fall into it because they have money to burn and are looking for kicks, and fall for "recreational habits" - a phrase used to make drugs like this somehow seem acceptable.
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Posted: 4/13/2008 3:35:23 PM | I think it sad. However he died and whatever he did he is still a dead man who should have had many more years to live.
He was the main reason I would happily watch Smart with J.
His Fiancee's death was recorded as misadventure, not an overdose. An indirect effect of the drugs (she suffered from epilepsy following a car accident). | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 4:12:16 PM | When anyone dies it is a very sad event. It seems the younger that person is the more sad we feel it to be.
It really does seem that this very talented man simply "died of a broken heart"! No matter what other evidence ever comes out I think everyone will agree that is the route of it all.
As for illegal drugs I don't think this is the place for me to get on my soapbox about it. Suffice to say I have never tried them and never will. I hate them all as I have seen good friends lives ruined by them.
For the religious and spiritual among you in any way, lets just hope he and his fiancee are back together and happy once again. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 5:38:12 PM | | yes 925 dancer does,nt it make you realise when someone close to you comitts suicide that we,ve no idea of the torment that there mind is in to go that far and because mental illness cant be seen it,s trivialised, its an illness never the less just like drug addiction is and the fact that celebrities have a lot more money than the average working person makes it easier and quicker for the addiction to take hold. there but for the grace of god. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 6:56:00 PM | I apologise if anybody reading my previous post were offended . I'm certainly not trivialising a suicide , as this subject has impacted on my wider family.Maybe it was inappropriate but aren't all my comments ? I feel sorry for the loved ones he's left behind. But not particularly for him . I don't know him personally and by the sound of it he doesn't deserve my sympathy nor will he get it. This could come across harsh but how would I go about getting/filling a job application form in at the Bebe. That would be quite a cool place to work actually.
Johnny. x | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 12:17:12 AM | | I think we should all bear in mind the suffering and the anguish of those left behind. Who knows what went on in the mind of this young man in the days preceding his death. Some of your comments have been quite scathing to say the least, others more caring. I personally know and like his mother Jackie--and as a mother myself, my heart bleeds for her. I will pass on some of the more sympathetic comments to her | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 12:29:56 AM | | Must be great being perfect like some on here. We all have our faults and let he/she without sin cast the first stone. A fella has died in tragic circumstances. His partner a few months ago. The mental anguish that man must have gone through. | |
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