| What are the Greatest myths and lies we live daily ?????
Posted: 4/14/2008 8:51:30 AM | Can anyone tell me what they think theye are ?????? when you post it please have your point of reference.
Example.... Mercury in your teeth, it is said that the vapor is released in your mouth when you chew or brush your teeth. It is also linked to alot of health problems like MS. It also was banned from being used in other countries.
http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/protocol_iaomt.html
GARLIC GOOD OR BAD ??
I had come across some information awhile ago on this subject and was wondering whath everyone knew about this??? i know alot of ppl say Garlic is good for you and heals you but does it have bad side effects as well ???
The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison for higher-life forms and brain cells. We discovered this, much to our horror, when I (Bob Beck, DSc) was the world's largest manufacturer of ethical EEG feedback equipment.
We'd have people come back from lunch that looked clinically dead on an encephalograph, which we used to calibrate their progress. "Well, what happened?" "Well, I went to an Italian restaurant and there was some garlic in my salad dressing!" So we had them sign things that they wouldn't touch garlic before classes or we were wasting their time, their money and my time.
I guess some of you who are pilots or have been in flight tests...I was in flight test engineering in Doc Hallan's group in the 1950's. The flight surgeon would come around every month and remind all of us: "Don't you dare touch any garlic 72 hours before you fly one of our airplanes, because it'll double or triple your reaction time. You're three times slower than you would be if you'd not had a few drops of garlic."
Well, we didn't know why for 20 years later, until I owned the Alpha-Metrics Corporation. We were building biofeed-back equipment and found out that garlic usually desynchronises your brain waves.
So I funded a study at Stanford and, sure enough, they found that it's a poison. You can rub a clove of garlic on your foot - a you can smell it shortly later on your wrists. So it penetrates the body. This is why DMSO smells a lot like garlic: that sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates all the barriers including the corpus callosum in the brain.
Any of you who are organic gardeners know that if you don't want to use DDT, garlic will kill anything in the way of insects.
Now, most people have heard most of their lives garlic is good for you, and we put those people in the same class of ignorance as the mothers who at the turn of the century would buy morphine sulphate in the drugstore and give it to their babies to put'em to sleep.
If you have any patients who have low-grade headaches or attention deficit disorder, they can't quite focus on the computer in the after-noon, just do an experiment - you owe it to yourselves. Take these people off garlic and see how much better they get, very very shortly. And then let them eat a little garlic after about three weeks. They'll say "My God, I had no idea that this was the cause of our problems." And this includes the de-skunked garlic's, Kyolic, some of the other products.
Very unpopular, but I've got to tell you the truth.
Editor's Note: Taoists and some other spiritual practices recommend against eating any garlic, onions, green onions (shallots), chives or leeks. This is because they believe they attract negative energies - bad energies love bad smells. However, I understand that the problem with garlic is much more serious than this, due to the reasons above. It has very toxic chemicals in it, in addition to the spiritual effects. Stephanie Relfe
www.relfe.com
Email:Stephanie@relfe.com
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| What are the Greatest myths and lies we live daily ?????
Posted: 4/14/2008 3:33:51 PM | AFAIK, Mercury has been banned for quite a few years, probably since before I was born.
As far as Garlic goes, I've had plenty of headaches when I haven't eaten Garlic. It is a bulb like an onion, so it has a pungent effect. But I cannot find any solid sources that corroborate that Garlic slows reactions. Only that the FAA and the USAF don't ban it. I think that if it really slowed reaction times, USAF Jet Pilots would not be allowed to eat Garlic, considering that a few seconds would mean the difference between life and death for jet fighter combat.
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=19224
http://www.leftseat.com/herbs.htm
Both of these are a myth.
But the biggest I know of so far, is:
In 1945 the Historical Association listed "Columbus and the Flat Earth Conception" second of 20 in its first-published pamphlet on common errors in history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_mythology
The idea that anyone, including the Church, intelligently, seriously believed that the Earth was Flat, is a complete myth. | |
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| What are the Greatest myths and lies we live daily ?????
Posted: 4/14/2008 4:50:44 PM | How about this cultural myth, propagated into hundreds of millions of homes every day via print, radio, and boob-tube:
"Buy THIS product - it will make you Happy!"... 
(and it's corollary: "Take THIS pill, it'll fix all your ills!"  )
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Remember, folks: GIGO
Garbage In, Garbage Out. Watch what you put into, or allow to have put into, your head...
Hope this makes someone think. :) | |
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| What are the Greatest myths and lies we live daily ?????
Posted: 4/14/2008 7:18:22 PM | Garlic is a powerful antimicrobial. That's where the myth that it will ward off evil comes from. If you crush a few cloves and down them with some milk or water etc when you feel the start of a bacterial infection coming on it will knock it dead. However, it also kills the good bacteria in your intestines that are essential for digestion and making vitamins (yes bacteria take the food and convert some of it into vitamins such as niacin) so its necessary to take live yogurt and live cheese and other live foods such as naturally fomented unpasteurised sauerkreut (is that how you spell it) but these things are hard if not impossible to fine even though we have eaten them for millenia up until very recently and now we have upset the balance of a symbiotic relatinship that was developed over many many gnereations.. We need them but now we irradiate and pasteurise everything so no wonder our guts are a mess. Intestinal problems are the number one reason for seeing a GP.
The only counterbalance to garlic and antibiotics is probiotics. Enteric coated so it does not dissolve in your upper digestive tract - this very important. Anyway I'm way off topic so I apologise but this is important.
So garlic can be used as medicine and counterbalanced by good live food or probiotics.
A bit of garlic now and them won't hurt you though. We used to eat live cheese and milk and yogurt so it didntmatter but now...you get my drift. | |
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| What are the Greatest myths and lies we live daily ?????
Posted: 4/14/2008 7:24:45 PM | Other things that make you go hmmmmmmm:
Women age faster than men (yah right)
Removing al salt intake lowers blood pressure (rubbish too low salt will raise yoru blood pressure)
Margarine is better for you than butter ( nonsense - margerine had no redeming qualities)
Cholesterol in food is what makes your cholesterol level high - nonsense - 74% of cholesterol is made by the liver and low cholesterol leads to depression as it is essential to making the brain chemicals that make you feel good.
Eggs are bad for you - bollock (in my best british accent) eggs with insipid pale yolks are garbage food but free run ot high omega eggs with dark yellw\orange eggs are superfoods
I could go on and on but the phone just rang...bye | |
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| What are the Greatest myths and lies we live daily ?????
Posted: 4/14/2008 8:03:54 PM | continuing from ^....that artificial sweetener is better for you than sugar. in fact this myth is now coming to light that artificial sweetener over time can be very dangerous. (now is this latest scare truth or myth?)
regarding the God issue - religion spreading love and light and unity seems to be a historic myth and that actually 'formal' religions spread division and separation and exclusiveness.
read "Communion with God", the one Conversations with God book where Neale Walsch finally takes a back seat completely - there you will see 10 illusions/myths that are really eye opening and make an awful lot of sense when you read the explanations by reading the book.
Basically, they are:
1. The Illusion of Need
2. The Illusion of Failure
3. The Illusion of Disunity
4. The Illusion of Insufficiency
5. The Illusion of Requirement
6. The Illusion of Judgement
7. The Illusion of Condemnation
8. The Illusion of Conditionality
9. The Illusion of Superiority
10.The Illusion of Ignorance
For me, with understanding the meaning conveyed in that book, these really are the greatest myths and lies we live daily. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 5:52:34 AM | Hmmmm alot of interesting points on here. It quite hard to choice which is truly myth and which is truly fact, when in fact the people who hold the answers to these myths, would be us !
yes all we have to do is do our own research and studies ? The question to this is do we have the time or care enough to want to know the REAL truth ? Its crazy that a majority of people sit around waiting for the Scientist to say "yes its okay to believe Garlic is bad for you or its good for you "
Then to wait for the Govt of your country where you might be to say the same kinda thing, "yes its okay to believe that smoking will not kill you or cause Cancer"
Is God just a myth? if not where is the evidence to show he exists ?
Is Aids man made ? if so where is the evidence of it ?
is it from having sex with monkeys if so evidence please ?
Is UFO man made craft or something truly alien ???? If so where is the evidence ?
Is MONEY JUST AN ILLUSION? an illusion to keep people a slave for modern day society??
Was man made to be a slave ? Is that why our instinct is to be working and why we feel usless when we are not working ? Or we feel like a looser ???
SANTA CLAUSE LOL
and the list goes on.....If we as a people would truly like to know these answers, then why dont we as the people ban together and do our own research. Money and loosing our job might effect that mortage payment or you might miss your favourite T.V show....is that your excuse as to why the majority of people dont bother ?????
We would rather take the word from stranger we have never met and will never know if the truth they bring to the table be fact or made up fiction.
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Posted: 4/15/2008 8:18:00 AM | This is the sort of pseudoscientific crap that makes me cringe:
The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison for higher-life forms and brain cells. We discovered this, much to our horror, when I (Bob Beck, DSc) was the world's largest manufacturer of ethical EEG feedback equipment.
Lots of substance penetrate the blood-brain. Lots of substances which are poisons are also essential for life, the difference being the quantity of the substance. Let's rewrite this argument for another chemical: The reason fish are so toxic is that they contain retinoids, primarily retinyl palmitate which is converted to retinol in the small intestines. Retinol is a poison to higher life forms. What's wrong with this argument?
First note the following:
(A) The chemical in question is vitamin A
(B) It IS toxic, if you ingest enough of it and enough of it is not all that much in the way most people would think of ``a lot.'' For example, 15 mg/day can lead to toxic effects.
What's wrong with the arguments is that it throws in a lot of scientific sounding jargon in order to sound scientific and then omits all of the relevant details that would be used to qualify any scientifically acceptable conclusion. This form of pseudoscientific sales pitch disguised as information is lying in its worst form.
We'd have people come back from lunch that looked clinically dead on an encephalograph, which we used to calibrate their progress.
"Well, what happened?" "Well, I went to an Italian restaurant and there was some garlic in my salad dressing!" So we had them sign things that they wouldn't touch garlic before classes or we were wasting their time, their money and my time.
Really? People came back from lunch and they were flatlined on the EEG? I think the best thing to check first is the quality of equipment used to obtain the EEG's. The next thing to check would be the competence of the people performing the so-called study. Didn't anyone think it was weird to be talking to someone about salad dressing when the EEG showed the person to be clinically dead? That alone is enough to question any result obtained from that so-called study. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 1:09:35 PM | Like i had mentioned...organize a study of your own. Yes you cringe when you hear these kinda things but in order to really feel like you have the strong solid evidence. instead of frowning upon others work. DO YOUR OWN.
its easy to say thats BS , well if it is ...show me the proof ? Do a video of your study showing your results that prove your words ???
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Posted: 4/15/2008 1:49:52 PM | .
stargazer1000:
Conspiracy theories. It's easy to fall back on, doesn't require proof and, if you doubt it, you're either not as bright or intelligent as the conspiracy proponent or are part of the conspiracy.
Geez man whats up with you conspiracy "theory" people anyway?
Granted I go up against the bullshit conspiracy "theories" as quickly as I go up against people who cannot get past the idea that there is in fact a conspiracy in progress right this second somewhere in the world.
One of my favorites are the lbj tapes where you can here them orchestrate the gulf of tonkin incident that we americans were lied to about so they could prolong and escalate the war. I can post pages of actual conspiracies not just theories as you would put have people believe.
LBJ Tapes - Gulf of Tonkin Staged as Pretext to Expand Vietnam War
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5613477914613956243
When people like your like yourself down play such events you are only hurting yourself as a few million bucks invested in investigation is a hell of a lot cheaper than finding out we were lied to that there were no wmd's.
I have volumes of known and prosecuted conspiracies at all level of government.
I think one of the most devastating myths in todays propaganda is just that, that conspiracies are nothing more than "theories", and people that advocate that are part of the problem not the solution and frankly in denial or trying to lie to the people.
Just as a quick example and for shits and giggles; prove that id found at wtc belonged to atta. You cant. No one can. Yet I am sure you chose to believe because to question is a conspiracy theory right? Your government would never lie to you would they? (WMD's)
Next I would say that the belief that our government knows better how to govern us and what we want than we do. My investments cut in 1/2 with inflation, now when I earn them back I can pay taxes on the money all over again just to get to where I should have been in the first place had they not cheated me?
That the federal reserve is federal, as in federal government when its a private bank.
Whats a little interest and taxation here and there? No idea how this destroys an economy.
More: if your guy cant make it then vote for the better of 2 evils, or vote for the party instead of what you believe perpetuating the status quo when the only way to get change is to vote for who you believe in even if it is for yourself. That is how you make your vote count.
Lots of really important myths, many of which people are totally unaware even as they read this.
Oh btw, excellent post Tiny Dancer!
Everything you said is bang on, in fact hi cholesterol wont kill anyone but if it ever goes low they are dead!
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Posted: 4/15/2008 2:02:22 PM | .
...show me the proof
Thats a debunkers bogus conflation of terms.
The judge does not sit at the bench and say "show me the proof" as that is an after the fact "judgement". Proof is a result of a judgement".
Prior to a judgement you only have "evidence".
The judge and or jury examines the evidence and determines wheather or not it is proof.
No one can show "proof" prior to entry of a judgement. Then there is the problem of how legitimate is the judgement considering how corrupt our judicial system is.
That and people with no knowledge of what they are judging will make a emotional conclusion rather then an informed one, until asked to show their evidence and give their reasoning where invariably they disappear from the debate.
anyway...........
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Posted: 4/15/2008 6:44:31 PM | The biggest myth is that we are the greatest country on earth. Pfft. We can barely educate and provide medical care to most people. We can't even control our borders much less our population numbers. Years ago we were bad to the bone. Now, we only do things that are really stupid and so the rest of the world is eating our lunch in category after category. And to admit those things is not seen as wanting your country to do better, it's a one way ticket to being ostracized.
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Posted: 4/15/2008 7:48:00 PM |
AFAIK, Mercury has been banned for quite a few years, probably since before I was born. Myth. Silver "amalgam" fillings still use mercury. Just google for: mercury fillings UK, to confirm it to yourself. The government merely advises that such fillings should not be given to pregnant women. Norway has very recently become the first country to ban this type of fillings: http://www.naturalnews.com/022943.html Apparently there is not sufficient proof that the mercury vapour released by fillings during normal eating and drinking is damaging to health. However, the mercury vapour produced at cremations contributes to 16% of the mercury vapour pollution in the UK, which you'd think would be reason enough.
A chemical such as garlic being toxic in high doses or when applied in certain ways is hardly remarkable. Salt is pretty toxic and yet it is essential. Iron is toxic if you have too much and yet we need some. Too mch vitamin A can kill you but.... Chlorine is a poison yet they put it in water to make it safe to drink.... etc etc. The fact that something can cross the blood-brain barrier does not automatically make it toxic: essential things, like oxygen and glucose can cross it, for example. Of course, these can be toxic too in sufficiently high doses - like everything else.
The god myth is not so much a problem as the idea that organised religion is a good thing that should be allowed. I think belief should be encourages to be a completely personal thing and that no-one should be told by anyone else what to believe. I see no harm in calling the mysterious by a name; I see a lot of harm in people who call the mysterious by the same name getting together and committing atrocities in that name.
I think that one of the biggest myths today is that we are free to choose what we believe, free to observe and reason about the world. The view of any one of us is so limited and narrow it is scary. The other big myth, thankfully being debunked, is that we are not all connected. Our behaviours in the prosperous West, our every choice has impacts across the world and too many people are operating under the delusion that they can live their lives exactly as they choose, that they have the right to do so, in fact and that what they do affects no-one else at all in any way that they should care about. | |
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Posted: 4/16/2008 12:11:36 AM |
Like i had mentioned...organize a study of your own.
Why not just publish the study in a reputable, peer reviewd medical journal?
Yes you cringe when you hear these kinda things but in order to really feel like you have the strong solid evidence. instead of frowning upon others work. DO YOUR OWN.
The purpose of publishing in peer reviewed journals is so everyone can obtain reliable data without having to do their own version of the same experiment. The fact that people who appear to be clinically dead on an EEG (by the author's own statements) are being interviewd ought to send up red flags to anyone. It is not possibile to interview someone who looks clinically dead on an eeg unless the equipment is broken or the operator is incompetent. That statement alone invalidates the so-called study. | |
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Posted: 4/16/2008 4:00:52 AM | Why not just publish the study in a reputable, peer reviewd medical journal?
There is another great myth!
"Peer reviewed"
Anyone ever examine the politics around peer reviews?
Granted peer review "can" help get us in the right direction but all to often they are sinply bs.
It comes under the:
got a government job? Then you better not do or say anything that will reflect on your job.
getting government contracts? Then you better not do or say anything that will reflect jeapardize any future contracts..
getting government grants? Then you better not do or say anything that will jeapardize your grants.
got a government entitlements? Then you better not do or say anything that will jeapardize your entitlements.
Couple of the best examples of peer review fraud is global wrming and the world trade center.
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Posted: 4/16/2008 4:12:57 AM | Well that took a long time to turn into a conspiracy thread.
More seriously,
Any e-mail sent to you in a mass chain, especially one about politics, is likely to have anything more than an ounce of truth in the metric ton of bullshit it will contain.
Fact check people. | |
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Posted: 4/16/2008 11:32:51 AM | "Well that took a long time to turn into a conspiracy thread."
Yup, I guess I should apologize because I brought it up, although my intention was to point out that they are so prevalent in our culture, we can't escape 'em. Frankly, I don't know of any group of people who are competent enough to maintain a conspiracy without someone at the centre giving it up.
Or are we talking personal myths and lies we live daily? | |
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Posted: 4/16/2008 12:14:50 PM |
Well that took a long time to turn into a conspiracy thread.
LOL yes it may appear to be this but i wanted everyones thoughts on what was myth and what was "FACT"
In our everyday lives we do live in a way that would make other countries shake their head. Alot of North American ways of living are not healthy for the body or the mind. We look down upon 3rd world countries as being poor but yet our Govt are over there busy steal what resources they have.
There are so many thing the list could go on...all i was wondering was ...whats on your list that you recognize as being a myth or Lie ???
IF conspiracies come up thats what ppl believe.
really what is the true meaning behind conspiracy ? | |
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| What are the Greatest myths and lies we live daily ?????
Posted: 4/17/2008 5:40:40 PM | There is another great myth!
"Peer reviewed"
Anyone ever examine the politics around peer reviews?
Sure. Go read the intructions for authors submitting articles for phys. rev. posted on the aps website. If you follow the directions for submission (which address thr format, length, requirents for figures and which journal is appropriate for a given field), you can submit an article and it will be reviewed by three referees who will either find it has merit or it doesn't. If it does not, you will recieve a list of reasons, which you have the opportunity to address and either correct or offer a counter argument. That process can go back and forth many times.
Many journals no longer even impose a page charge. Bias by peer reviewed journals could be rightly questioned for journals supported by advertising, but that criticism doesn't apply to the majority of research journals. The only ``conspiracy'' involved is the conspiracy to hold articles to a standard for the scientific quality needed for scientsts to have some reason to believe what is being claimed is an accurate representation of what is being reported.
I can tell you right now that any article which claims the reasearchers interviewed people who were clinically dead according to the equipment upon which their findings were based will most likely be asked if they interviewed these people by holding a seance before being rejected if the editor has a sense of humor. Anyone who has difficulty understand the problem with basing a conclusion on equipment that says the participants being interviewed are clinically dead, deserves to be laughed at and ridiculed by any reputable journal. I don't really know of any peer reviewed journals which address health care in the afterlife. | |
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