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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/22/2008 5:27:56 PM | I'm sure not many here will believe this to be true, but set aside your dogmas for a while and look at the facts..
All religions are the same sun worship religion.
NIMROD / SIMIRAMIS (ISHTAR [where easter comes from])
the same damn story of the apparent "jesus" .
to back this up very very quickly I have added this link to a website that will show you a list of similarities between jesus of nazareth, and horus the egyptian sun god who goes by many many other names.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
It's worship of the sun.
They are put in place to close off your minds, set limits on your limitlessness and keep you thinking you are small and powerless.
You are the creator of your own reality, and they do not want you to know that.
I suggest anyone interested should try reading Tales from the Time Loop by David Icke, as well as his latest book "The David Icke Guide to the Global Conspiracy (and how to end it)".
That's just to get started.
If you haven't already seen, you should watch the video "Zeitgeist" it is free and found here www.zeitgeistmovie.com .
Open your minds. Free yourselves. | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/22/2008 6:58:28 PM | | unfortunately we are becoming more polarized religiously instead of moving away from it towards some kind of stable rational position. Religion is the built in self-destruct mechanism for humanity. If we are just here to seek the next level then we should follow all teachings, behave, worship(pay money to church) so we can get into paradise. | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/23/2008 5:12:29 AM | Sun worship sounds logical, given that we are dependent on the sun for everything. If the Sun was a thinking entity who could switch its light on and off at will in response to the degree of adulation it received, we would all be worshipping it.
I suggest anyone interested should try reading Tales from the Time Loop by David Icke, as well as his latest book "The David Icke Guide to the Global Conspiracy (and how to end it)".
Hmm. David Icke. He believes the world is ruled by reptiles right, like in the age of dinosaurs. Only these are shape shifting lizards who appear on the world stage as prominent figures, like The Bush family (no I don't mean Kate Bush), Queen Elizabeth and Kris Kristofferson.
I can see the appeal in branding anyone more powerful or well known than yourself as a lizard but why Kristofferson - what has he ever done to anybody? | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/23/2008 6:58:38 AM | Yes, he does say that the ruling elite bloodlines (yes, traceable, real bloodlines, this part is provable) have different DNA than the majority of us due to their constant inter-breeding to remain as pure as possible genetically in relation to the reptilian interdimensionals (extraterrestrials) that bred with sumerians to create a hybrid race of "humans" (the shape shifting reptilians) in order for them to have a vehicle (body-computer) to operate within our frequency range (yes, everything is a frequency or vibration of energy, this is also provable). Without their interbreeding/hybrid DNA they would not be able to interact with our frequency ranges and therefore would not be able to control us and make us our slaves as they are trying so hard to do (and doing a good job, I might add).
people are waking up though.
I know the theory sounds ludicrous at first, but after actually spending the time to read his books, the man is considered brilliant by me and definitely not crazy. | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/23/2008 10:15:56 AM | I'm trying to take you seriously but I keep looking at those horns. Has any stuff turned up in scientific journals about the alien/ human hybrid DNA? I'd like to read it.
I find talk of frequencies invaluable as an aid to tuning the radio or differentiating between the visible light spectrum and infra red, microwave and x rays etcetera but what does it mean in regard to shape shifting reptilian aliens?
I watched a presentation Icke did on me 'puter recently and just felt incredibly bored with the whole thing. None of it seemed to coincide with reality on any level. I'd be reluctant to swell his coffers by buying the book I'm afraid. Could you summarize the best bits in a sentence? | |
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Posted: 4/24/2008 6:57:45 AM | Which presentation did you attempt to watch?
I have watched many presentations of his and I don't recall any that I didn't relate to reality except a few of the ones on youtube which were too short for him to really explain anything properly.
I'd say that the most important message in his books is to open your mind to possibilities, the only limits in our reality are those we impose upon ourselves, we are all one.
That's summarized in a sentence . . but I'd really suggest reading some of his work. And he is not the only person who speaks on the subjects of the reptilians either, the work of Z. Sitchen, Michael Tsarion, and several others have work relating to them. .
The hybrid DNA thing, well, if we could get ourselves a sample of their blood and some incredibly expensive and highly trained equipment and scientists to do that work, we could maybe find out of their DNA is much more different than others, but if you compare the DNA of everything on the planet it's all very similar and about 97% of it some silly scientists consider "junk", which is ludicrous, but nonetheless, the interbreeding and genetic relationships of the world leaders in politics, religion, science, military, banking, and other important areas can and has been traced, most of them go back to Charlemagne . . . 34 of the 43 presidents of the USofA are related by blood. . . that itself should raise an eyebrow.
you can find david icke's books on the internet if you search for them, you won't have to pay for them that way if you are not satisfied. . I suggest reading them though for sure... although they are long. (600pages) | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/24/2008 7:39:40 AM | to bring this thread back to religion, here is a good video of DAVID ICKE talking about religion!
Good stuff!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoK_JaWJeBE
Here is a more recent video of him, i believe he talks about reptilians and shape shifting in this one.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7893011147580425559&q=david+icke+reptilian&total=634&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6 | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/24/2008 7:55:05 AM | All of what has been said on this forum is true. I've also done the research from various angles and it seems there is general consensus with intelligent humans in the "know".
Every day there are more people coming out of silence, throwing away their pensions and endangering their lives to get this information to us. Some have been murdered because of it.
I'd rather go down fighting than be herded like a sheep to my doom.
Don't accept the chip in the body. Fight back at the government who has taken your rights.
Hitler bombed his own government building, then said to the people oh look isn't this terrible we have to go to war, took away the rights of his own people, and began the slaughter.
This is what Bush has done with 9/11. Oh look what a terrible thing! We'll have to go to war! Then he takes away the rights of Americans. Then he starts the slaughter.
There are concentration camps being built all over the US. "Detainment" camps.
Soon people like me will be considered a threat because we prefer to speak the truth.
We all know what happens to those kind of people during such times.
This is no joke and the wellbeing and furtherance of life on earth depends on it.
Keep doing your research ..... check out chem trails....planet X.....illuminati....Vatican....Jesuits....keep going.
God does exist as Prime Creator and we are beings of light who are ascending to the 4th dimension very soon. Fill your heart with faith in the highest and Love of the best and you will have a ticket on that bus. Do good wherever you go. Remove negative thoughts. Even when you discover things in your research.
See you on the other side  | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/24/2008 8:37:58 AM | "I'm sure not many here will believe this to be true, but set aside your dogmas for a while and look at the facts..
All religions are the same sun worship religion.
NIMROD / SIMIRAMIS (ISHTAR [where easter comes from])
the same damn story of the apparent "jesus" .
to back this up very very quickly I have added this link to a website that will show you a list of similarities between jesus of nazareth, and horus the egyptian sun god who goes by many many other names.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
It's worship of the sun.
They are put in place to close off your minds, set limits on your limitlessness and keep you thinking you are small and powerless.
You are the creator of your own reality, and they do not want you to know that.
I suggest anyone interested should try reading Tales from the Time Loop by David Icke, as well as his latest book "The David Icke Guide to the Global Conspiracy (and how to end it)".
That's just to get started.
If you haven't already seen, you should watch the video "Zeitgeist" it is free and found here www.zeitgeistmovie.com .
Open your minds. Free yourselves."
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May I ask you why you chose THAT user name?
IMHO a shaman does no preach, a shaman counsels ,guides ,shares ,listens, and talks to those who wish to talk to the Shaman whether they know the shaman is a shaman or not.
But she/he does not forcefully put his/her opinion down others throats IMO.
A shaman will learn from everybody they encounter appropriately, I find it hard to believe being judgemental to this forum in the way done in the opening post that learning was ever considered as a reason for starting this thread.
Maybe there is some truth in what you speak of, but the last line is doing something very similar to what you alleged. | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/24/2008 8:52:53 AM | Don't be so harsh....just take what you can from this. The message is still true.
If someone points a knife at you are you going to comment that it's not Sheffield steel?
The advice that he gave was appropriate. People need to be told what to do. They look for it everywhere. Best to give good advice and guide them towards a better day.
Every Shaman and every psychic and so on expresses their talent in their own way. Let it BE. | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/24/2008 9:04:28 AM | ''Don't be so harsh....just take what you can from this. The message is still true."
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A shaman is a part of nature, Nature can be percieved as being harsh at times.
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"If someone points a knife at you are you going to comment that it's not Sheffield steel?"
Someone coud perhaps ask you the same question.
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"The advice that he gave was appropriate. People need to be told what to do. They look for it everywhere. Best to give good advice and guide them towards a better day."
Thats is exactly what the churches believe.
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"Every Shaman and every psychic and so on expresses their talent in their own way. Let it BE."
I expressed myself in my own way but was I let be? | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/24/2008 11:18:50 AM | yeah i believe strictly in all of this, i grew up in a christian family and even when i was a kid i read about history and other religeons and i could see all the contradictions in the so called holy bible, a book that was written by men and only 1 quarter of the books are in the bible that were written.
aztec, incan, and sumerian religeons have similarities but many people including me believe that sumerianism is the very first and true religeon. | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/24/2008 11:18:51 AM | I agree, there is a lot of truth to this sun worship theology & not many falsities. Many novels, books, magazines and web sites have made and repeated similar allegations that the New Testament writers borrowed ideas from the ancient mythologies of Egypt, Greece, Rome, Babylon and India. The most commonly cited examples involve the traditions of Adonis, Dionysus, Krishna, Mithras and Osiris, that these pre-Christian deities supposedly had much in common with Jesus Christ. To one's self it is simply a question of believing or not believing, & although many crimes of hate & ignorance have sprung up as weeds out of the r darkness because of the religious believer, one can not deny the good which it has done inside of the lives of so many who were broken & mentally not breathing, even if so many humanbeings perceive it to be nothing more than false hope.
ReLiGiOn  ReLiGiOn =  which turns into  which leads to | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/25/2008 3:24:26 PM | I'm not sure why you attacked my on my choice of user name and then accused me of forcing anything on anyone. This is not the case. You say a Shaman does not preach, they counsel ,guide ,share ,listen, and talk to those who wish to talk to the Shaman whether they know the shaman is a shaman or not. Well, was I not sharing something with the readers of this thread? Am I not listening to what those who reply have to say on the issue? I am not preaching, I am spreading (small) amounts of information through this thread.
Shamans are holders of knowledge, simple as that.
Because I chose "Prairie Shaman" as my user name does not mean I expect you to believe everything (or anything).
See past these barriers you have placed on yourself and you will realize that there is no harm in spreading information. Although I do realize that most people get uncomfortable when faced with information that they disagree with, especially when the information addresses the very foundation of a persons belief system.
Freedom means freedom for everyone, especially those you disagree with. | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/26/2008 6:17:20 AM | the film I watched was a documentary made a few years ago for TV. I thought it was rubbish and not even very entertaining rubbish at that. Icke's paranoid delusions sounded like a hybrid mixture of Sci Fi and bullshite.
the only limits in our reality are those we impose upon ourselves,
Don't you think there should be objective standards for judging what is real?
And he is not the only person who speaks on the subjects of the reptilians either, the work of Z. Sitchen, Michael Tsarion, and several others have work relating to them.
Could it be that guys are producing these books because they sell? There's a market for fantasy conspiracy theories, alien abductions and suchlike, fuelled by science fiction ideas and playing to peoples' neuroses.
The hybrid DNA thing, well, if we could get ourselves a sample of their blood and some incredibly expensive and highly trained equipment and scientists to do that work, we could maybe find out of their DNA is much more different than others,
Huh, so it hasn't been tested then.
You are the creator of your own reality, and they do not want you to know that.
''Don't be so harsh....just take what you can from this. The message is still true."
"If someone points a knife at you are you going to comment that it's not Sheffield steel?"
"The advice that he gave was appropriate. People need to be told what to do. They look for it everywhere. Best to give good advice and guide them towards a better day.
Why do most of the contributers to this thread speak in mind numbingly portentious sounding platitudes?
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
I added that one for good measure.
Let it BE."
Not The Beatles best. I prefer Rubber Soul, Revolver and Abbey Road.
My nose is bleeding. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!!!!! | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/26/2008 6:38:50 AM | my nose is bleeding
perhaps you should lay off the cocaine, let your mind clear a little, and think about your reality for a little while after the bleeding stops. . . but seriously, if it's bleeding because of cocaine you really should stop. :)
Maybe you have never seen a UFO, or a shape shifting reptilian and that is why you can not imagine the possibilities. You probably haven't read any of the books about them either, and probably never seen a real crop circle (by real I mean one that was not made by men as a joke) so your opinion on such subjects really shouldn't be worth much, considering you haven't done any research on such things. You already mentioned that the Icke video you have seen was made for TV which is a pretty good sign it was intended to make you think he is a nutter. The television has everyone who watches it under its incredible control, couple that with fluoridated water, aspartame foods, chemtrails, and *gasp* a religion and you have a completely subservient being. . . My intuitive side is telling me that you may take part in almost all of the above, but I do not know you personally so I cannot say. You do seem like the kind of person who needs to see something to believe it, but let me say that in reality it is quite the opposite. Believing is seeing. | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/26/2008 6:57:39 AM | and I forgot to address the idea of objective standards for judging what is real...
that is the most ludicrous thing I have ever read, at least close to it.
Why would you want to allow anyone else to decide what is real and what is not real?
That is sheep-speak. How could you allow anyone to tell you what is and is not real without deciding that for yourself? Are you to decide what is real for me? I think not. Ridiculous! All the black is really white, and if you do not agree with me, you sir, are CRAZY! | |
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| Religion is sun worship, mindcontrol
Posted: 4/26/2008 7:40:48 AM | I don't take cocaine, relying more on the milder mind altering effects of alcohol. Preferably Bombardier, Black sheep, or other such superior ales. Not lager though. I regard Lager as the work of Satan.
If I saw a UFO it would not mean much to me without some sort of hard physical evidence, in the absence of which the apparition would be nothing more than a UAP (unexplained aerial phenomena) or even an MIR (mysterious image on the retina). Any evidence provided by a non- me source would have to not be the subject of a crackpot goverment suppression conspiracy theory and only available for scrutiny in the pages of some poxy book. I know it's boring but you've got to have some kind of critical standards and those are mine on this issue.
When did crop circles come into vogue? Seems like a few years ago now. I have vague memories of theories that these are due to some kind of atmospheric disturbance called a plasma vortex, at least the simple ones. The more complex manifestations are probably the result of fraud. To believe otherwise is like cheerfully throwing away your brain, which I'm not quite ready for yet. Assuming for one moment that they do have a supernatural or extraterrestrial explanation, you have to tackle the vexed question of how such agencies would want to arse about making patterns in fields when there are dedicated people out there such as those working on the SETI project who would be only too glad to engage in meaningful contact. I think skepticism has to be the default approach in these cases.
Shape shifting lizards sound like something culled directly from science fiction sources. Didn't the series "V" feature something of the sort. Again if I actually saw such a thing it wouldn't mean much to me. I'd be scrutinising the image for the hallmarks of CGI involvement and questioning my sanity, cos such things don't happen outside Hollywood.
You're right , I'm completely subservient to my inner model of logic and reason, based on years of watching TV, drinking flouridated water and living in the real world. And your criticism is? | |
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