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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 7:03:01 PM | | I was checking out a prospective match and as I was reading said profile, discovered a "deal-breaker" was playing video games. It suggested gamers should try reading a book. I'm merely curious. Ladies, is there something innately wrong with gamers as potential mates? Guys, have you had to deal with this? Like I said, I'm curious. I own a video game system and enjoy it as a hobby. Does that make one a freak? Or was this a random thing? Is it different than any other hobby, or is it a perception thing? Does playing video games present something about an individual that is off-putting? I'd really like to hear more. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 7:04:45 PM | It's like parents telling their boys that they'll get hairy palms if they jerk off.
Some people just don't get it, and just don't *want* to get it.
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 7:12:17 PM | | I don't hate them and would not mind if someone I was involved with had a healthy balance of playing games, but also living in real life. .It is those men that put video games, or such computer games World of Warcraft/Diablo/Ultima Online, et. al before their marriage that ruins it for the rest of them... | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 7:27:43 PM | | So it would seem that people are commenting about games being deal-breakers due to bad experiences. Okay. That I can understand. Some dude/dudette decides to spend their time with a collection of pixels rather than the amazing woman/man in their life. Not so cool. But any hobby could do this. I've just seen a lot of vitriol toward gaming, or anything supposedly "nerd" related, for that matter. My personal beef here is that the profile that I was looking indicated I should try reading a book. Is the assumption there then, that gamers are illiterate or uneducated? I find that somewhat disheartening. Or is it a comment on maturity? Thanks for your prompt feedback, btw, everyone..... | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 7:36:48 PM |
Is the assumption there then, that gamers are illiterate or uneducated? I find that somewhat disheartening. Or is it a comment on maturity?
hmm, could be a bit of both...If that is the case, then it is their loss for not getting to know you first personally. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 7:37:47 PM | There are some very hardcore gamers out there who would rather spend a Friday night with the latest video game release than out with their girlfriend. Its easy to get lost in playing for hours at a time. If the other person does that enjoy the same activity, then they are kind of left out of that aspect of the gamer's life.
Maybe she was just avoiding coming into contact with that kind of person. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 7:40:06 PM |
My personal beef here is that the profile that I was looking indicated I should try reading a book. Is the assumption there then, that gamers are illiterate or uneducated?
Maybe you should email that person and ask them? How are we supposed to know?
I don't have anything like that on my profile. I stay away from the games because I know I could easily get hooked on them... much like I am hooked on forums.
One addiction is enough....
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 7:42:40 PM | I don't have a problem with video games, they have been a huge help to both my children with hand-eye coordination, which they desperately needed to improve their schoolwork.
I think the impression is, that if you are a "gamer", then you are one of those who is obsessed about it. Hours upon hours of video games, when there is life to live, and an outside world, seems fooling.
Not saying you are that way, but that may be the impression. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 8:02:36 PM | Thank you for the viewpoints all. Like I said, I was curious as to what people think. Obviously I can't know where an individual's personal opinion stems from without asking them directly. I just wanted a general opinion, and got it. Thanks again. Happy fishing!  | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 9:16:16 PM | Who cares, GTA IV will be out in less than 6 days now.
Heh, how's that for a response?
I'm actually a computer geek but I'm obsessed with GTA and will stoop ( :) ) to consoles to play it.
Anyway, I just think a lot of women equate video games with nerds, losers, that type of thing. I seriously doubt most of them had specific bad experiences.
It's interesting how many people still feel this way, when you consider video games in some cases are beginning to exceed movies and television in popularity. In the near future (if not already), there may be more people who play video games than those who do not.
Then you can freely pronounce your love of gaming :). | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 9:40:28 PM | | For me, a guy who likes to play video games on a regular basis should be playing them with his kids [and even then, a limited amount of time... I am NOT a video game fan, they aren't allowed in my home], if he doesn't have any, then it's a BIG deal breaker. When I think of video games, I think of something mindless and that drops someone's IQ, so it's a no go. If I wanted another child around, I would have one. Video games are like having a tv in the bedroom, not gonna happen. It also shows immaturity in my eyes if a guy lives alone, doesn't have kids and plays video games; I want a man, not a child or a teenager in an adult's body. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 9:42:43 PM |
I don't hate them and would not mind if someone I was involved with had a healthy balance of playing games, but also living in real life. .It is those men that put video games, or such computer games World of Warcraft/Diablo/Ultima Online, et. al before their marriage that ruins it for the rest of them...
She pretty much sumed it up. If you play games too much to where you start to neglect us, after awhile, it's a dealbreaker. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 9:49:10 PM | | OP - Having been a gaming widow myself (once with PS2 and once with City Of Heroes), I can sympathize with a woman who would say excessive gaming is a dealbreaker. I've found that guys who are really into their games are a little less likely to want to leave the house or do things with their significant other. However, the profile you mentioned did have a rather insulting view of gamers as a whole. I have quite a few friends who are into it, and most of them are more than literate. Personally, I stay away from games like that because I, too, would fall into an addiction with them. I've got to agree with Red Cassandra - the forums are enough! | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 9:54:57 PM | 1PreciousRose said:
For me, a guy who likes to play video games on a regular basis should be playing them with his kids [and even then, a limited amount of time... I am NOT a video game fan, they aren't allowed in my home], if he doesn't have any, then it's a BIG deal breaker. When I think of video games, I think of something mindless and that drops someone's IQ, so it's a no go. If I wanted another child around, I would have one. Video games are like having a tv in the bedroom, not gonna happen. It also shows immaturity in my eyes if a guy lives alone, doesn't have kids and plays video games; I want a man, not a child or a teenager in an adult's body.
Herein lies the problem. You're making the assumption that if a man enjoys video games, he isn't an adult. What about women who enjoy shopping? Teenage girls often love shopping. Does this then mean that a woman who shops shouldn't be considered an adult?
What about animals, like maybe horseback riding? Most girls I knew growing up would have given sizable portions of their anatomy to have a pony or horse. Does this then mean that girls who are into equestrian events aren't adults?
You see the slippery slope your logic takes you down? Frankly, your assumptions point to significant character flaws in yourself if you're going to let something like the presence of video games in a childless, single man's life be a "deal breaker" for you. You think video games drop someone's IQ? This tells me you've never played them. Check out some RPG titles that engage in heavy story; there was a game that came out back in 2000 called "Deus Ex", that built upon conspiracies involving the Illuminati, FEMA, and even the Hong Kong Triads. It had a very engaging story coupled with "first person shooter" -style action. You think this game would lower your IQ?
How about "Clive Barker's Undying", a story about a man in Scotland back in the 1920s who had to deal with a family with a sordid history that had to be slowly unraveled throughout the game? Is this lowering someone's IQ?
Or even something so mundane as "World of Warcraft". Head to its website and read the lore behind the game; you're going to find a rich tapestry of story there.
Someone who puts video games before their responsibilities in life, or who consistently refuses to go out and do things with real people in favor of staying home and playing a video game has a problem. Someone who uses video games as a hobby, however, but is otherwise well-socialized, holds down a steady job, pays their bills on time, etc., this is not a person one should look down on. Video games are a hobby like any other.
Hopefully you aren't too myopic to see this. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 10:10:40 PM |
What's with the hatred of video games?
Depending on the game, I can play PS2 for hours with my family...right now, it's Guitar Hero in my house...
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 10:11:34 PM | | I would say playing video games on a regular basis would be a deal breaker for me. I've dated gamers before, and although they never chose any game over me, it usually was their favorite hobby, and I just don't find that attractive. They were great guys but I'm much happier with my Renaissance man. A man of many talents is very sexy! | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 10:14:38 PM | silentman73:
WELL SAID!
Deus Ex is the greatest game ever made, not because you blow people up, but because when you see a bit of reading text to the side, you'll have a chance to read pieces of real philosophy, or deep backstory in the form of news media. I still enjoy playing that game once a year when I can, if only because it is the most amazing experience available right now if you don't mind dated graphics.
Do not forget about Okami, which so beautifully tells the rich history of Japanese mythology that it is worth checking out as a work of ART, not as just another game.
Also, there is the matter of games soon to come, such as Spore, which will potentially be an excellent tool to teach children about the nature of evolution, natural selection, economics, diplomacy...
Not only that, but I find the hatred of video games personally offensive, because I have dedicated my life to making video games in the future as a designer.
Once the career is inevitably over, I plan not to just sit on my money, but to carve out a new use for video games: therapy.
How would some of you shy-beyond-repair guys and gals like the chance for risk-free experimentation with various dating strategies and friendships?
Or maybe the chance for those of you with bi-polar and mental illnesses to learn in a stable environment just how to live a normal life down to the most minor and potentially off-putting detail?
That's what I see in video games. They're more than just a bunch of flashing lights and beeps. They are more even than an art form. They are a window into our own psyche, and as a medium that is now more popular in America than movies or music, there is no reason why it shouldn't be embraced and expanded as part of the world's overall mindscape.
If any of you has any kind of demeaning statement to make about my choice of career, take the time to first explore my other additions to the forums. I doubt you'll find me rash and childish, if it's not too presumptuous to say such.
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 10:23:22 PM | Designing video games professionally and playing them professionally is two different things. For a glimpse at the life of a "pro" gamer, take a look at www.purepwnage.com a hilarious internet comedy about a "pro" gamer.
A guy like that, yea.. i can see it; women wouldn't want to date him and the sad truth is those people exist. However, games as a hobbie? a lot of people play or played video games. Games as a career? Not a ton of money in it unless your making the next Half-Life 2, but the reward of designing an entire world. From the physics, to the interactions, to the sound displacement. It's by far one of the most complex working technologies we've created next to operating systems and the hardware they run on. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 10:45:39 PM | And your point is?
I play video games regularly, and my interest in designing them is part of a point showing how deeply rooted in my lifestyle they really are, in case you hadn't noticed.
Not only that, but actually video game design is quite lucrative if it is done right. My interest is not in money anyway, as I said, but rather using experience as a source of momentum to create a revolutionary step forward in the medium.
~ David | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/22/2008 11:49:11 PM | | Well, men, MANY of the women are telling you that it's an unattractive quality in a man, and many of you are trying to argue that it shouldn't be. Whatev. Either suck it up and stop yer gaming, and get those gals; or suck it up, and accept that you are limiting your potential pool of candidates for mating. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/23/2008 1:06:23 AM | well where do i start! my ex used to choose computer/video games over me. always. he would rather play on that than play with me!! he was on it all the time!! so yes if someone played on it alot, it would put me off ! i like playing video games though, its fun, so i dont mind a partner doing it! just as long as it isnt so important that im neglected :( | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/23/2008 3:02:17 AM | | as long as the video games don't get more attention then me, i'm fine with them. I'll admit I own a ps2, ps3, and a wii. Generally though I'd prefer to go out and do something then stay in and play video games everyday. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games? Posted: 4/23/2008 7:46:06 AM | Wow. I hadn't realized the crystalization of opinion my wee little question would cause. Now, I can't speak for everyone - only me. I said I play video games as a hobby. I do NOT classify myself as a professional gamer. I don't spend days on end playing games, and quite enjoy living in "the real world." Many things to see and do. Walks, friendships. Employment. Bills to pay. Goals to chase. However, it seems, based on a number of the responses, that inevitably, you're going to get tarred with the same brush. 1PreciousRose - You've drawn a hard line there. Obviously, you know what you want, and what you don't want in your life, and you've formed your opinions accordingly. I would only ask this, though. Can one define an individual's maturity level by single hobby? Silentman73 offers a pretty eloquent case to the contrary. CassaGo - I don't want to suck it up. I want to meet a good strong woman, and I want to be able to enjoy my hobby. Obviously, when it comes down to it, I'll choose a good strong woman first. A 360 is shiny and makes for some fun times, but its not so receptive to candlelit dinners, isn't much of a conversationalist, and i can't get lost in its eyes. Crazygirl89 - it's a good thing, then, that he's an ex, isn't it? As above, relationship vs. the console, the console loses. With a grin like that, obviously, if he chose the 'puter over you, he had his priorities all pear-shaped.
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