| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 4/23/2008 3:23:03 PM | Michael Bisping's first fight at MW in the UFC was impressive. It was the best 1st round finish to a fight since Anderson Silva KO'ed Rich Franklin (their 1st fight) back in October, 2006. Bisping pulverized Captain Miserable, and it was good to see after McCarthy's smack talk.
How far will Bisping go as a middleweight? | |
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| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 4/23/2008 5:41:39 PM | He'll be solid, no doubt...but i don't think he'll ever challenge for the championship.
You have guys like Franklin, Henderson, Marquardt, and Okami at the top of the division, and I personally don't think he stands much of a chance against any of them.
There's talks about his next fight being against Chris Leben, which will be a good test of how good he is in the division. That's actually a fight I'll put some stock in, since a win over McCarthy's not exactly a stellar accomplishment. | |
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| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 4/23/2008 6:24:25 PM | | I agree that a Bisping vs. Leben fight would be a good next fight for both fighters. Leben has been building himself back up, and Bisping needs a tougher test. I would give the edge to Bisping in the fight. It would stay on the feet all the way, and I think Bisping's standup is a little more crisp and technical than Leben's. Bisping will catch him and knock him out. | |
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| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 4/24/2008 7:26:42 PM | | He see him as the guy who will make a few pushes for the title only to fall short in the clutch. | |
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| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 4/25/2008 4:02:51 PM | | The head of the UFC in England (Marshall Zelaznik) thinks that Bisping needs 4 fights before he fights for the title. After he beats Leben, Bisping should probably fight Marquardt or Franklin. | |
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| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 4/30/2008 3:44:50 PM | | Bisping is an entertaining guy and I usually am rooting for him in his fights, but I think Leben would KO him. Bisping is not on the same level with Silva and the top 5 in the division, imo. Leben is good at getting inside, causing some chaos, and then landing that one bomb he needs to win the fight, which is exactly what I think would happen in this case, sad to say. I highly doubt we'll ever be hearing "...and the new UFC middleweight champion ooooof the woooooorrrrllllld... Michael "The Count" Biiiiissspiiiinnnngggg!!!!" | |
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| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 5/3/2008 1:24:57 PM | I think Bisping will be at least Top 3 in that division in a couple of years. He's got youth on his side and is continuing to learn at a good rate. 38-year-old Hendo won't be a factor much longer, and Franklin has a couple of good years left before he starts declining. Bisping will still be improving in a couple of years. I see Bisping as the #2 or #1 contender in 2010.
I had Bisping as a slight favorite (in the Leben fight) until a couple of days ago when reports came out that Leben is doing 8 - 10 days in jail on an outstanding DUI warrant. Now, I think Bisping is the heavy favorite. He'll murder Leben in the first round (and that's assuming Leben can still get his Visa and make it to London for the fight.) | |
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| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 5/3/2008 4:40:35 PM | Just to clarify, Leben traveled to Washington to turn himself in to the authorities there just to get the warrant situation cleared up so he could be assured his visa would be clear to travel to England. THAT shows me that he's taking Bisping very seriously, and regardless of the outcome, I'm looking forward to the fight.
No way does he "murder Leben in the first". His chin is too good (Yeah yeah, Anderson put him down in less than a minute, but Bisping's striking is not on the same level as Silva's). I see it going into the second or third round if Leben wins, and if Bisping wins, I see him taking a decision. | |
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| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 5/8/2008 10:26:51 PM | | Hes got potential but theres nothing ive seen that makes me believe he could beat Anderson Silva but it may not matter cause Silva is nearly to the point where hes going to clean up 185 and look for tougher challenges. After that the class of 185 is headed by Franklin whos considering 205 and Henderson whos getting on in years and may also head back up to 205. Then in that next group I think Bisping can do well agianst although the divison is alot better then given credit for with guys like Leben,Marquardt,Horn,Kampman,Tanner,Okami,McDonald ETC. | |
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| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 5/9/2008 8:06:27 AM | I think that within a year, Silva and Franklin will be the only guys who can beat Bisping. He's gonna move up and wreck a lot of guys. Leben is finished after this DUI fiasco. If he doesn't get cut immediately, he'll get cut as soon as he has a less-than-perfect fight.
Bisping will be a force at 185. | |
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| How Far Will Bisping Go (UFC)?
Posted: 5/9/2008 9:42:55 PM | | Come on man you really see the UFC would release Chris Leben ? Hes established himself as a star and makes for very exicting fights. Like the Terry Martin fight it was like something out of a movie. | |
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| Leben Will Get Cut.....Bisping Will Do Well
Posted: 5/10/2008 2:59:05 PM | Yes, the UFC will get rid of Leben. Remember: they got rid of guys like Din Thomas, Hermes Franca, and Cro Cop even though they are good fighters. The UFC is trying to cut its roster of fighters by 25% or more, so any fighter who creates problems for them is subject to be cut. Plus, Leben will never be able to fight for a title as long as Anderson Silva is champ, because Silva already destroyed him. So did MacDonald. Hell, even Kalib Starnes (who got cut) beat Leben.
Leben might get one more chance after he gets out of jail. If Leben destroys his next opponent, then they might keep him around. If he loses or has a shítty fight, Leben will be gone. I'd rather see the UFC bring Robbie Lawler back or get Paulo Filho anyway. Bisping will eventually be Top 3 in the division. | |
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| Leben Will Get Cut.....Bisping Will Do Well
Posted: 5/10/2008 6:49:30 PM | Leben will not be out of the UFC. He's an exciting fighter with a big fan base. He's too big of a draw for the UFC. It's still a business, and at the end of the day, he makes them money.
Crocop had one good fight in the UFC then looked like crap for 2 fights, he wasn't a big draw for the casual fans...no big loss.
The casual fan doesn't know who Din Thomas or Hermes Franca is. They were not a big loss either.
Again, the UFC is a business. Leben = fans = money.
He isn't going anywhere. | |
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| Bisping v. Day is a better fight than Bisping v. Leben
Posted: 5/20/2008 2:15:34 PM | | The more I see and hear about this Jason Day, the more I like the fight. It's actually a more dangerous matchup for Bisping than Leben would have been. Day is dangerous on the ground, and his dismantling of Alan Belcher is only the tip of the iceberg. It will be a great fight. It may be a while before we see Leben again. | |
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| Bisping v. Day is a better fight than Bisping v. Leben
Posted: 5/21/2008 2:24:34 PM | Bisping has a big personality and seems like a likeable guy. His stand up might not be on the same level as Silva's, but then, who's is???
Leben has improved alot since his time on the Ultimate Fighter, but the only thing I've ever found outstanding about him is his chin. Thus, why I was so impressed when Silva knocked him COLD.
I personally don't see Leben being able to stand with Bisping, but then, I figured that Patrick Cote would dismantle him too, so wonders never cease!! | |
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| Bisping v. Day is a better fight than Bisping v. Leben
Posted: 5/30/2008 12:37:45 PM | | There will never be another MW champ whilst Anderson is still competing. Everyone else in the division will be competing for the number two spot; Almeida, Okami, Franklin, Bisping, Leben, Marquardt etc. | |
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| Bisping will be Top 3!
Posted: 5/30/2008 1:29:29 PM | ^^Never say never. As good as Anderson is, he's not invincible. Everyone knows how Daiju Takase and Ryo Chonan both dominated Anderson on the ground. That's why Dana brought a bunch of new fighters with mad BJJ skills to the UFC MW division. You've got Demian Maia. You've got Thales Leites. You've got Ricardo "Big Dog" Almeida. Those guys can beat Anderson on the ground. Can't wait for one of those guys to face him.
I don't see Bisping beating Anderson, but Bisping will be in the top 3 of that division soon. | |
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| Bisping will be Top 3!
Posted: 5/30/2008 6:49:48 PM | Chonan beat that ass standing and on the ground though I doubt he would ever be able to repeat that performance.
As far as Bisbing I think he has a long way to go before breaking into the top 3...you got Silva, Henderson, Franklin in the top 3 for now with a strong Okami prolly at #4. I dont see him beating any of them any time soon, while I do enjoy his fights he always makes stupid mistakes that against better opposition will cost him.
I think given a few more years and good trainers he can be someone but for now he'll be stuck midcard for awhile. | |
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| Bisping will be Top 3!
Posted: 5/30/2008 11:06:11 PM |
Chonan beat that ass standing and on the ground
I agree, and I'm glad you said that, Sumo. Chonan dominated that entire fight, but many fans seem to think that Anderson was getting the best of the standup until Chonan scissor-locked him and took him down. The truth is that Chonan worked him on the feet, too. Anderson got worked.
As for Bisping, I see him moving up as Hendo and Franklin age and eventually decline. | |
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| Anderson
Posted: 5/31/2008 2:30:58 AM | Takase and Chonan fights were a long time ago. Leites is with Nova Uniao and Anderson is good friends with that team, I doubt that fight would happen. Both Maia and Almeida are great at jiu-jitsu but would fall to pieces on their feet, all that skill will go out the window once they've been hit by Anderson.
Henderson and Franklin are already on the decline, neither are the threat they once were. Bisping has the ferocity and cardio to overrun them both in a fight. | |
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| Bisping's ferocity. .Anderson to fight Thales Leites
Posted: 5/31/2008 11:40:08 AM | I agree that Bisping, within a year or two, has a good chance to overcome both Hendo and Franklin. They are as good as they'll ever get. Bisping is still improving.
As for Thales Leites, he and Anderson will definitely fight if Leites gets past Marquardt in London next weekend. I expect Leites to beat Marquardt and then to set his sights on Anderson. Both Leites and one of his trainers have already said they are ready to fight the champ and they think Leites can beat him.
Put Anderson Silva in the Octagon with a top BJJ'er, and it will be a dangerous fight for Anderson. Very dangerous. | |
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| Bisping
Posted: 6/4/2008 1:16:40 PM | Latest quote from Bisping, concerning champ Anderson Silva:
"I’ve never, ever had my arse kicked. I’ve lost, sure, but never had my arse properly kicked. I don’t think Anderson Silva would kick my arse, either. Nobody’s going to make a fool out of me.”
----Michael Bisping | |
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