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 _relle_

Joined: 1/7/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 5:37:27 AM
I have a question to ask...


Friends of ours got married recently and both my partner and his brother ( who is soon to be married) went to the bucks night and apparently it was a 3 day complete porn fest with hotel room strippers, live sex shows plus trips to strip clubs and all sorts of crazy things.

My partners brothers fiance says that if his bucks night (which will be in a few months) is anything like the one they went to last, she will be very hurt and upset and will even call off the wedding if strippers etc are involved...and frankly, i cant blame her..

Is it ok to be upset? I can see where she is coming from....and i think that i would feel the same if i was in her shoes.....

Just wondering
Does anyone else feel this way....or have u ever felt this way?
 daca1

Joined: 4/18/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 5:44:26 AM
NOT COOL!!!! there is so many other things they can do that doesnt include a porn fest. Is he using that "last" night to sleep around before he gets married?!!! Why woud he need to see other pu**y when he's supposedly in love?!
Personally that wouldnt fly with me.
 luvsouth135

Joined: 8/11/2006
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Posted: 4/25/2008 5:49:40 AM
That is a tough question, as the future bride also participates in this sort of activity with her friends (baclorette parties) I see no real harm in this, if both parties agree with the festivities.
 luvsouth135

Joined: 8/11/2006
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Posted: 4/25/2008 5:52:06 AM
As long as the future bride or bridegroom does not have sex with anyone else.
 RiversideBay

Joined: 2/26/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 5:59:29 AM
The whole thing sounds like a way to end a marriage not start one!
No doubt the whole lot shows little consideration for the brides feelings, or the marriage in general for that matter.
 grizzelda

Joined: 6/25/2006
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:05:03 AM
I would be upset. Porn and stripper are "mainstream" and are usually benign entertainment, a live sex show and prostitution crosses the line. If anyone feels the "need" for this type of entertainment because they feel that they are somehow "losing" something very important when they are entering their marriage, they shouldnt get married.
 a bit nomadic

Joined: 6/14/2006
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:05:57 AM
I think they should agree on boundaries, and stick to them. I can't imagine thinking that anything was important enough to do at a bachelorette party (or stag night, if I was a guy), that it would make it worth upsetting the person I was going to marry.

But on a personal note, I find the kind of party described in the OP pretty vile, and I guess I'd think twice about marrying someone who would WANT that kind of party. A stripper is one thing--but live sex shows?
 _relle_

Joined: 1/7/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:09:59 AM
I completely agree...

I think id be ok if they went to see strippers at a club, but having the live show in the hotel room (which was two naked girls inserting things into each other) is not really necessary..

 SapphirePoet

Joined: 8/29/2007
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:11:36 AM
I couldn't have said it better Grizzelda.
All this crap should have been out of his system the day he proposed to her.

3 days? Live sex shows?
There is no way you could ever convince me he did not have some kind of sex with someone else during those 3 days.

If either one of my ex-husbands had done something like this I would have called off the wedding.

And kudos to the fine gentlemen who agreed it is no way to start a marriage.
 glamb

Joined: 3/24/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:18:47 AM


Is it ok to be upset?



What is the doe's night going to be like?
 Checkinearly

Joined: 11/15/2007
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:22:08 AM
Yes, the fiance is right to be pissed off at the thought of a 3 day porn-fest and maybe, if the guy is highly enthusiastic about such arrangements perhaps he isn't really ready to settle down? BUT.... a "bucks night" is almost seen as a "Right of Passage" , a good night out with outrageous memories and stories to tell etc..... So she probably ought not to baulk at the idea of a stripper, but a 3 day orgy?.... seems excessive to me.
 jimtash71

Joined: 3/12/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:24:02 AM
If either one of my ex-husbands had done something like this I would have called off the wedding.


This sounds kind of funny in this thread.

Strippers yes but the sex show does cross the line.

Me personally, I'd go see the strippers then go back home and have my own personal sex show with my wife to be. Probably wouldn't even say hello when I walked in the door. Just grab her, bend her over and have at it.

 dont poke the bear

Joined: 11/28/2006
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:28:14 AM
I am confused.....

You said that" and i think that i would feel the same if i was in her shoes"...You said that your partner went to this as well. Would that not put you "in her shoes"? As well, I am also curious to know, did your partner know it was going to be a three day live sex show before he went and did he stay for the full three days or did he leave once he found out what it was about?

Of course it is ok to be upset. In a relationship, people generally voice their opinions on various topics. It goes wrong when one partner chooses to overstep said boundaries. If you think your partner's views and feelings are irrational, then you should not be with them.

Take care,

A
 usernameextraordinaire

Joined: 3/28/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:29:30 AM
I've never understood that stuff...Why would anyone want to engage in that kind of thing as part of getting married to someone they are suppose to be in love with,men or women?
 gingerlynn28

Joined: 1/29/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:32:11 AM
personally i feel a night home with grandma before the wedding is safer nowadays...After all you have your whole marriage to hit the strip clubs etc. after work .
 1missblueeyes

Joined: 4/2/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 6:39:02 AM
I would definitely not be pleased and would make my feelings known as such negative behaviour is not only degrading it's disrespectful. Her feelings are justified for sure. If he loves and cares for her he WILL respect her feelings.
 smileee4u

Joined: 11/8/2007
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Posted: 4/25/2008 7:08:31 AM
What a horrible way to start a marriage!!! This man must be out of his mind! I can only think that maybe he is trying to tell his new bride something. So, to shock her, he pops this one up, right before a wedding. A wedding is very expensive, and take a lot of time to plan.... so now he pops this adolescent bozo-type event, showing he is irresponsible and does not intend on being faithful from the start. She is very stupid to stay with this guy. The pain and heartache that will go with this guy.... why doesn't she just let him hold her underwater to drown her. Get out, stupid. You are in deep water, and deep trouble. RUN FOR THE HILLS IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO GET AWAY FROM THIS GUY. Being single is a much better choice. Do not go into an emotional, spiritual, and financial partnership with this guy. Find yourself a good profession, where there are more men around. You really need to get out and find a better guy.
 *LoisLane*

Joined: 4/1/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 7:27:05 AM
^^^^ Wow, lady. Calling the new bride stupid multiple times is uncalled for. I don't recall reading in the OP the groom actually had sex with anyone. (Btw, they are already married! So you are suggesting she divorce her husband. Good idea.) Also, if I remember correctly, most stag parties are covertly planned by the GTB's friends. He is not directly responsible for who was there or what went on. He is responsible for HIS actions and reaction and should be held accountable to his BTB for same.

To the poster who suggested the OP was in the same shoes. Bravo! That is exactly what I thought when I read that question. Perhaps, her man didn't partake in those activities which is why she is not writing a thread entitled, "What do you guys think about SO who has sex at buck's weekend?" If we give the OP's SO that much latitude, maybe the GTB deserves the same unless otherwise informed.

As to stag night, unless in Vegas prostitution is illegal, so I wouldn't condone anything of the sort. Again, I must say, my SO would be held accountable for his individual actions, not the actions of a bunch of rule-breaking men who turn into boys around naked women. LOL. Btw, since it was three days, it reads as if they went away for the weekend, which is a common trend in stag/doe parties these days, instead of being a 72-hour romper room session.
 mcbobly

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Posted: 4/25/2008 7:37:40 AM

Get out, stupid. You are in deep water, and deep trouble. RUN FOR THE HILLS IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO GET AWAY FROM THIS GUY. Being single is a much better choice.

WOW, someone here sounds very bitter and has some lingering issues that need to be addressed. OP I wouldn't worry too much about this 3 day extravaganza as it's very common these days for both parties to "splurge" in a last time out sort of event. Not to say that sex is or will be necessarily involved, but to just get out with the guys, or the women with the ladies, is something that has been going on for a long time and just because it is happening does NOT mean anyone is cheating or is going to. As long as it is viewed as it is meant to be, entertainment, then there should be no problems, unless they already exist, in which case the marriage thing should be given a second thought until the issues at hand have been ironed out.
 Happily Ever...maybe

Joined: 2/13/2007
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Posted: 4/25/2008 7:48:24 AM
I don't see a problem with a boys' night out, a nice dinner out with his friends, a few drinks and yeah, maybe even a trip to the "gentleman's club" to see a few pretty women (and where almost all these days have a very strict no touching policy). Hell, even if they go to Vegas (where prostitution is NOT legal btw) for the weekend, it'll likely be dinners, cigars, gambling and drinking, and yep, some half-naked women at some point-but in a club. A weekend of debauchery in a hotel room with hookers and live sex shows, no, that crosses the line. Just because a guy is getting married is no reason for him or his buddies to act like jackasses. Send him off with a night on the town, sure. But if it involves much more than what I described above, his bride to be has every right to be upset and have second thoughts. As some have said, would he feel the same way if she behaved in a similar fashion?
 mthomjmark

Joined: 2/27/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 9:49:58 AM
NOT COOL!!!! there is so many other things they can do that doesnt include a porn fest. Is he using that "last" night to sleep around before he gets married?!!! Why woud he need to see other pu**y when he's supposedly in love?!
Personally that wouldnt fly with me.
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Well if it flies with you then your naive as heck. I've been to three; our country calls them bachelor parties. 2 of the guys were straight laced; they got super drunk though, and one eventually had sex with the stripper, and then begged us all not to say a thing. She never found out until 5 years later and now they are on the verge of divorce.

Another future groom, kissed the girls naked breasts and butt, and eventually did oral sex; on eachother. Again, he begged for silence; both guys were in tears. She also never suspected a thing and even told my friend that he would never do anything like that.

There was another one; I was the best man and I threw the party. I told my friends if there were any strippers, I'd kick all their asses while the stripper watched. There was no stripper. We had a blast, talked about crazy times, got super drunk, played poker and did guy stuff, and had a blast.

I think the younger a woman is the more she thinks she knows, and the more clueless she is. Your friend should tell her future husband and the best man, these are the rules. You do anything sexual or have strippers, then you may as well be with her because I'm out of here like a newborn. Don't trust them; men get lost when they are drunk and see sleazy strippers and big chests. I've seen many parties with strippers and there is always something sexual. They don't take their clothes off to play Playstation 3. Lay the law down and dont' be naive. Good luck.
 grizzelda

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Posted: 4/25/2008 10:12:12 AM
^^^^^^^^^^You know you are going to have to hand in your man card for that....
 mthomjmark

Joined: 2/27/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 10:19:05 AM
LOL; I don't need a card to be a man;-)
 mthomjmark

Joined: 2/27/2008
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Posted: 4/25/2008 10:22:02 AM
^^^^ Wow, lady. Calling the new bride stupid multiple times is uncalled for. I don't recall reading in the OP the groom actually had sex with anyone. (Btw, they are already married! So you are suggesting she divorce her husband. Good idea.) Also, if I remember correctly, most stag parties are covertly planned by the GTB's friends. He is not directly responsible for who was there or what went on. He is responsible for HIS actions and reaction and should be held accountable to his BTB for same.
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LOIS LANE YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING; I've had several friends get married and lay down the law and say no strippers. This victim thing so many people are into is a joke.

When I get married there will be no strippers. If friends respect you, they will respect the future wife and grooms wishes. Doing the right thing isnt' very hard.
 life_of_leisure

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Posted: 4/25/2008 10:24:09 AM
"I admit, whenenver I do a wedding, it feels like I'm presiding at a bacchanalian enthronement of a virgin-whore. These are the Christian weddings." - a priest

If she gets to have her orgy (of narcissism) I don't see anything particularly wrong with him having his. If anything it's an uneven deal because his only lasts a couple of days and costs way less.
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