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Posted: 4/25/2008 11:05:35 PM | .
Federal law enforcement agencies co-opted sheriffs offices as well state and local police forces in three states last weekend for a vast round up operation that one sheriff’s deputy has described as "martial law training".
Law-enforcement agencies in Tennessee, Mississippi and Arkansas took part in what was described by local media as "an anti-crime and anti-terrorism initiative" involving officers from more than 50 federal, state and local agencies.
Given the military style name "Operation Sudden Impact", the initiative saw officers from six counties rounding up fugitives, conducting traffic checkpoints, climbing on boats on the Mississippi River and doing other "crime-abatement" programs all under the label of "anti-terrorism".
WREG Memphis news channel 3 reported that the Sheriff’s Department arrested 332 people, 142 of whom were fugitives, or "terrorists" as they now seem to be known.
Hundreds of dollars were seized and drugs recovered, and 1,292 traffic violations were handed out to speeding terrorists and illegally parked terrorists.
THOSE DAMN ILLEGALLY PARKED TERRORISTS!! Thank goodness we got them before they blew up the parking meter or worse double parked!!! OH and there is nothing more criminal than a SPEEDING TERRORIST!!! I hope they waterboard all those **stards.
Click here to watch a WREG Memphis news report
Operation Sudden Impact (Martial Law Sweep)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCaAZovyJ7w
The authorities even raided businesses and store owners, confiscating computers and paperwork in an effort to "track down possible terrorists before something big happens".
(Kool we caught them red handed and got the jump on them before they committed the crime.
We are SO GOOD!!!)
The Sheriff’s Department is determining if and when they plan another round-up.
The operation, which involved police, deputies, the FBI, drug agents, gang units and even the coast guard, is just one example of how law enforcement at the state and local levels is being co-opted and centralized by the Department of Homeland Security via massive federal grants.
It also highlights how the distinction between crime and terrorism is becoming irrelevant.
An Infowars reader called in to the Alex Jones show yesterday to alert us to the story and explain that he had gleaned the information from a his friend, a sheriff’s deputy in Memphis, who had described the operation as "training for martial law in America".
Forget innocent until proven guilty, you are now a terrorist suspect until you are told otherwise.
It is now the norm to consider everybody equally likely to be guilty of something than innocent. This is proactive policing, not preventative or reactive policing, and is widely indicative of a society that is NOT free.
This form of proactive policing is a phenomena indicative of a once free state rapidly declining into a authoritarian police state.
If there was a real terror threat in these states, it would surely make sense to for law enforcement agencies to target known trouble areas, and follow up on already existing leads. Instead we are seeing local police and the coast guard being recruited to randomly target anyone in any area as possible terrorists.
Surely if there was a real terror threat, this activity would harm the effort to combat it.
Of course, such activity is clearly not related to a real and tangible terror threat, it is related to the ongoing effort to vastly increase the size and scope of the federal government and increase the power it has over American citizens.
The information and intelligence from the operation will be collated and routed through federally funded state-run fusion centers, which are working in conjunction with the military arm of the DHS, NORTHCOM.
Such information will soon include the DNA and other biometric information from every person arrested, which DHS head Michael Chertoff has declared is no longer your personal information.
We recently reported on the fact that after 9/11 the Justice Department advised the Bush administration that it was able to effectively suspend the Fourth Amendment where domestic counter terrorism operations are concerned.
In light of this, and given that the government has begun to class any crime as terrorism and set local and state police to work on "anti-terror" operations, it is clear that the protections provided by the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are under direct threat. (get real man, more like NULL and VOID!!)
We have seen how new provisions will effectively nullify the U.S. constitution, and a recent spate of executive orders, in particular PDD 51, outline preparations for the implementation of open martial law in the event of a declared national emergency.
Centralized and federally coordinated law enforcement programs complement nationwide FEMA programs to train Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation. The effects of this particular program have already been witnessed.
Steve Watson, Infowars.net
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/32882
Daym I feel so safe now dont you? I really do hope they waterboard those speeders and bamboo splints for those illegally parked **stards.
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Posted: 4/26/2008 12:35:23 AM | | Do you haf ze paperz? Zis is no place to go unless you haf ze papers! | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 1:36:29 AM | | I'm not one to attempt falling into populist rhetoric, but if anyone denies our civil liberties are dissolving, that person is silly. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 2:24:48 AM | ...any decent pot smoker could have told you that....
Interesting report mike and a good source. keep em comin. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 6:51:55 AM | NwMke wrote:
Such information will soon include the DNA and other biometric
information from every person arrested, which DHS head Michael
Chertoff has declared is no longer your personal information.
I have never been arrested in my life, and hope never to be. However, this above really
brings to light how incredibly bad our rights have been violated. Whatever happened to
innocent until proven guilty? They're going to take your DNA to add to a database,
without even being CHARGED with a crime? That's incredible. I heard Dr. Katherine
Albrecht talking about this very subject on her radio show on http://www.wtprn.com
(We The People Radio Network). I highly suggest that anyone interested in learning
more about this subject to tune in to her show, or listen to any of her previous shows.
They're all available in the WTPRN archives.
Another poster said keep 'em coming (news reports/info). Here is a VERY telling
article from an award winning Kansas Lawman and former Kansas State Trooper:
THE IMPLOSION IS ACCELERATING, PREPARE WHILE YOU CAN
By Greg Evensen
March 15, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
For thirty years, I have been writing, speaking, imploring, and begging others to make
rational, concrete plans for a time in life that would offer no quarter, give no mercy, and
that would in a word be--catastrophic. We are coming face to face with that moment. You
have so little time left to do anything that will give you a fighting chance. What are you
doing?
The rest of the article can be found here:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg26.htm
Just FYI - Yahoo is my main page when I open a browser. First thing I saw when I
opened a new browser to pull up the above article was this:
Load Up The Pantry
http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/104914/Load-Up-the-Pantry
You had better effin' believe "it is starting". Not only is the MSM finally pulling their
head out of their butts and waking up to the fact that this country is in SERIOUS trouble,
the Wall Street Journal is finally posting about this subject. You'll note that the header
in the above story was from Brett Arends of the WSJ Online.
What I am wondering is WHY is the MSM just NOW talking about this problem? All
of the shows I listen to (Dr. Katherine Albrecht on WTPRN.COM, Alex Jones, Derry
Brownfield, Jack Blood, Dr. Stan Monteith, Pastor Butch Paugh on GCNLIVE.COM
have ALL been telling us to store food for awhile now. It's only a matter of weeks or
months until we have a MAJOR event here in the USA, which will bring on an invasion
to Iran. It's only a matter of time until the proverbial sh** hits the fan and we are
drawn into total martial law. What's even more frightening, is it will come from our
own government, and they will either blame it on domestic terrorists (i.e. Patriots),
or Iran. Will we even HAVE an election in November? I wouldn't doubt for a moment
that Bush will use this new 9/11 to stay in power indefinitely. Hold on to your seats
folks, it's only going to get worse from here on out.
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Posted: 4/26/2008 6:52:55 AM | It actually started long ago.
It's just being pushed up a bit as the powers that be realize Americans are waking the hell up and seeing that the government is as criminal and anti-Constitutional as can be.
I heard our largest military recruiting center is in MEXICO CITY, and now, they want to build one in AFRICA?
Can you figure out why they want foreigners in our military, especially if they plan on using the military against American citizens?
"NEVER allow them to take your guns."
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Posted: 4/26/2008 7:00:24 AM | Well, we've been asking for a Police State for a long time. Most of the idiots out there aren't going to wake up until they are smashed in the face by some National Guard storm trooper for stepping out of the food line.
You want authoritarianism, you got it.
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Posted: 4/26/2008 7:16:32 AM | I wonder if all those people that called everything that they opposed to in here a conspiracy theory will be saying the same things when they are screaming to the guards in the Fema camps for a drink of water.
All CFR members are the same, Warmongers and globalists.
Wake up now, Impeach and don't let it happen again do not allow Clinton, Obama or Mccain to run America any further into the ground than it already is. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 8:41:50 AM | *thebestguyhere* wrote:
I wonder if all those people that called everything that they opposed
to in here a conspiracy theory will be saying the same things when they are
screaming to the guards in the Fema camps for a drink of water.
You conspiracy theorist, you! 
You're absolutely right though - the sheeple will not believe anything that
has been written on this thread, and then they will be the ones crying for
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Posted: 4/26/2008 8:55:24 AM | | So why are we all on this forum? Shouldn't we be marching on Washington? On the phones making phone calls, pasting fliers all over town, knocking on doors, organizing meetings and rallies? I mean so tirelessly that we don't have time to be here. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 9:46:51 AM | The devil is in the detail. While I was jumping up and down trying to get people to pay attention to what was in the USA PATRIOT Act ("Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism") the rest of the country was busy NOT paying attention to it. In fact, the masses were unconcerned about what the fine print said. Well. Now you're concerned because it's affecting you?
Should you be further interested in other "details" that are embedded in the Patriot Act
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:H.R.3162:
http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200110/102401a.html | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 10:20:04 AM | You guys only hurt your own argument when you include crap like this in it.
mass vaccination programs
OMG... you might have to be vaccinated to prevent you from passing on illnesses to others! The police state is here!
I have no problem seeing Bush et al as a bunch of self-serving, borderline evil pricks more interested in their own wallets and pocketbooks than anything else but when you start throwing this other bs in as "proof of a massive conspiracy" you only make yourselves look foolish.
If you are interested in convincing others that the current admin is acting contrary to freedom then you need to focus ONLY on the REAL threats and not throw in crap like vaccinations, etc as if it is somehow a violation of your "rights" and "proof" of a conspiracy. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 11:23:49 AM | mungojoe wrote:
If you are interested in convincing others that the current admin
is acting contrary to freedom then you need to focus ONLY on the REAL
threats and not throw in crap like vaccinations, etc as if it is somehow a
violation of your "rights" and "proof" of a conspiracy.
Apparently you haven't watched Beyond Treason yet:
http://www.beyondtreason.com
Our government forced U.S. troops to submit to an Anthrax Vaccine,
which disabled thousands of our troops. Some interesting links:
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/anthrax.htm
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james29.htm
More and more veterans have become chronically ill from a multitude
of symptoms since the end of Gulf War I. For many years the U.S. government
denied any responsibility for their mysterious symptoms. Only 7,035 men were
injured in this war. A total of 580,400 soldiers served in the first Gulf War. By
the end of 2000 325,000 of these troops had become disabled This means that
56 % of those who served in the first Gulf War were disabled within less than 10 years.
In August 2004 American Free Press reported that eight out of twenty men serving
in one unit during the 2003 invasion of Iraq had developed malignancies. This
translates into 40 % of the soldiers in that one unit developing malignancies within
a 16 month period of time. What is causing these terrible health problems?
This is an excellent 4-Part article. The info on the Anthrax Vaccine is in Part 3:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james31.htm
Apparently you haven't read up on the correlation between
childhood immunizations (vaccinations) and Autism.
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/59338
http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20080306/vaccine-autism-debate-heats-up
Currently 1 in 150 children are diagnosed with Autism.
Back in the 1960's, it was 3 in 10,000 children diagnosed.
Do the math, educate yourself, and then if you still think we're
"conspiracy theorists", then I'll proudly accept that title. I will
also know that I did all I could to educate people about our
government. Sometimes I ask myself "why bother?" I don't
know - maybe it's this need to help people - same as I did when
I worked in Animal Rescue in New Orleans after Katrina.
Dayna
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Posted: 4/26/2008 11:30:00 AM | itechman42 wrote:
So why are we all on this forum? Shouldn't we be marching on
Washington? On the phones making phone calls, pasting fliers all over
town, knocking on doors, organizing meetings and rallies? I mean so
tirelessly that we don't have time to be here.
Truthfully, been there, done that and bought the t-shirt and cap.
Marched in parades, made hundreds if not thousands of phone calls,
pasted up fliers on any available billboard in grocery stores, gas stations,
etc., knocked on countless doors, organized meetings and rallies.
And in doing so, don't you think people deserve some "down" time?
By the way, the March on Washington is July 12th:
http://www.revolutionmarch.com
At least I can say I DIDN'T sit on my ass and do nothing. I did my best
to educate people - which is the exact reason why Dr. Ron Paul is running
for president. He's already "won" -- he's been able to bring together
thousands of like-minded people, and together we are helping to spread
the message of Freedom, Peace and Prosperity.
Onward!
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 2:27:21 PM | This is an excellent 4-Part article. The info on the Anthrax Vaccine is in Part 3:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james31.htm
A new vaccine that was rushed into use without proper efficacy and safety testing out of fear of Saddam's largely unknown capabilities to use bio weapons on the battlefield.
It is not being "forced" upon the general public and is not available to "Joe Citizen" even if they wanted it.
The military does this kind of thing all the time and has a long history of it (remember Agent Orange, for example or the battlefield burn first aid that turned out to be more harmful than helpful?)
Hardly evidence of a "massive conspiracy" or the "threat" of "forced vaccination" to the general public.
Apparently you haven't read up on the correlation between
childhood immunizations (vaccinations) and Autism.
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/59338
http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20080306/vaccine-autism-debate-heats-up
A load of poorly researched crap that has no established causative association with autism. I could provide you with an equally strong correlation between autism and babyfood, does that prove babyfood causes autism? Is that proof of a gov't conspiracy?
Even if it weren't absolute crap it still wouldn't be evidence of a "massive conspiracy" on its own. That would require proof that the gov't was intentionally trying to make kids autistic.
Currently 1 in 150 children are diagnosed with Autism.
Back in the 1960's, it was 3 in 10,000 children diagnosed.
Diagnostic criteria for autism was, originally, extremely tight and was, essentially, a diagnosis of "last resort" (meaning that autism was diagnosed only when all other possibilities had been ruled out and there was no other diagnosis that fit).
The criteria for a diagnosis of autism has been very broadly expanded in the last couple of decades to include children who would never have been diagnosed as autistic 30 yrs ago. Originally the disorder had very restrictive diagnostic criteria as did the related disorder of Asperger's. The diagnostic criteria of autism has been widely expanded since then and is now referred to as Autism Spectrum Disorder to take this broader diagnostic criteria into account.
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Posted: 4/26/2008 3:20:22 PM | I love the Americentric view of people who are afraid of vaccines, they ignore that other countries have also done massive studies, and found 0 connection. People just don't want to admit that their genes had something to do with their kids having autism. They'd rather blame an outside source.
Originally the now discredited scientist stated that it was mercury in the vaccine that caused the autism, of course he was at the time patenting a mercuryless vaccine.
The thing is even in countries that DON'T use vaccines with mercury, there has been an increase in Autism, oddly enough they have also relaxed the Autism requirements. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 4:01:20 PM | Truthfully, been there, done that and bought the t-shirt and cap. Marched in parades, made hundreds if not thousands of phone calls, pasted up fliers on any available billboard in grocery stores, gas stations, etc, knocked on countless doors, organized meetings and rallies. - RonPaulGal
> Meanwhile, Dubya plays golf, and America is being flushed down the toilet.
> The trouble is, RonPaulGal (I love your user name - trouble is, how many people know that he's your only sane and rational option?), the vast majority of sheeple believe that governments do what is best for the electorate.
> They don't know that the real power behind the White House, for instance, is never seen. They don't know that there are secret meetings, in France and places far away, where the billionaire 'rulers' - the faceless ones - decide what wars will begin and how long they will last and what course they will take.
> The real problem - apart from all this - is that most of us don't understand the difference between the bloodlines. The Bush/Windsor/Rothschild bloodlines, for instance - the dynasties. What is it that makes the average person bow and scrape to HM the Queen in her presence, for instance? What kind of phenomenal power does this woman have that sets her above 65 million others in Britain? (It has nothing to do with her financial wealth. Scottish author J.K. Rowling is far richer than the Queen.)
> In order to find out, and most people couldn't care less, you need to read books by the likes of David Icke to find out just who is who. And by doing so, you will discover that the difference between the dynastic bloodlines and 'the rest of us' has more to do with mere money. It is a complicated subject, but it explains why the world is always at war, why millions of people slaughtered each other, for instance, because two people - the Archduke and his wife - were shot in 1914. Why did millions around the world have to die because of two people? (Wars weren't started when John F. Kennedy was shot on November 22, 1963.)
> Bloodlines, the dynastic bloodlines, and their origins. These are the answers. These people, and especially those in the higher echelons, control who enters the White House, not the ordinary sheeple. The sheeple simply make noises and shuffle around at voting booths and believe that they live in a democracy. It is a joke, really. You wouldn't believe how everything is arranged, how each war is played out at special meetings before the sheeple are forced to wear uniforms, become 'patriotic', take up arms, and march into the slaughter - at the behest of the dynasties, who are never in danger.
> I have only two words to finish off with. And they are - David Icke.
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Posted: 4/26/2008 4:25:03 PM | great question itechman. for myself it is not time to do anything that I am not already doing which is teaching my children how to grow food, perfecting my skills as a primitive technologist (which included birthing the last 2 of my children - any of you so called "responsible conservatives" walk that talk?), learning more about health and healing, making my herbal preps, consuming very little, and opening up minds.
....but, this is all prep for another time....its always better to learn how to do something before you HAVE TO do it.....
it is true, sir, that doing anything besides learning to live without this system is either being a part of the problem or asking for better food in jail... | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 7:34:09 PM |
Charles:
I love the Americentric view of people who are afraid of vaccines,
They'd rather blame an outside source.
Americawhatric charles?
When we first ran Geraldo's first story, SV-40, A Deadly Cure? we thought it was a bit on the conspiratory side, but it seemed well researched. We were pleased that many other journalists also investigated the material, proving the sad truth that Geraldo reported in ViewZone.
Research has now firmly linked many of today's cancers with tainted virus vaccinations given in the early 1950s. Could there be any more shocking and horrific revelations like this? We didn't think so - but we were wrong.
The latest horror story is posted HERE: SV40 Part Two for you to ponder. As you read it, also do not forget the Black Americans that were knowingly infected with Syphilis or the soldiers made to march through the fallout of our nuclear bomb tests...
But first, read Geraldo Fuentes original story. Also, important new information is at the end of this story.
If you received a polio vaccination in the 50's,
you may have gotten more than you know...
Watch this!:Interview with Dr. Maurice Hilleman from Merck Pharmaceuticals on how they introduced SV-40 cancer virus in their vaccines and also how AIDs was introduced to the public from Africa!
This is the smoking gun of cancer and AIDs!
It was 1956. I was only six years old and attended grade school in Springfield, Massachusetts. I was too young to recollect the first round of polio vaccinations, but I have a few memories. I remember that my first grade class was escorted to the school gymnasium. There was a peculiar smell in the air. I think it was probably rubbing alcohol. And some of the other kids were crying. The shot itself wasn't so bad. I didn't cry, but my best friend did. At the end of the ordeal we all got a lollipop.
A few years later, when we marched again to the gymnasium it was different. There was no crying and no alcohol odor. Instead, there were long tables bearing neat rows of small paper cups, filled about half way with a liquid that tasted like bitter orange juice. White clad Nurses watched as each child drank the vaccine. There was no lollipop and, after we handed back the cup, we simply returned to class.
The government had initiated the mandatory polio vaccination programs in 1955. Prior to this, polio had killed or crippled thousands of children and adults all over the world. Attacking the central nervous system, this viral infection was transmitted by human contact, sewage and even by contaminated milk. Victims who contracted polio would incubate the virus in their intestines, where it would multiply and enter the lymphatic system. Eventually the virus would penetrate the nerves and travel along nerve paths, destroying neurons and rendering the muscles connected to them paralyzed.
The polio epidemic reached its height in 1952. It turned thousands of victims into cripples and confined countless children to large pressure chambers called "iron lungs," which helped them to breath when their diaphragm muscles were stilled. There was and still is no treatment for polio. Aside from attempts to maintain life functions, the disease must run its course.
And so, in 1955, just one year before I received it, Jonas Salk had performed no small miracle when he successfully mass-produced an effective polio vaccine by growing a form of the virus on the kidneys of rhesus monkeys. This virus would be harvested, killed, and given to healthy children like me, who would then develop antibodies which would kill any future invasion of the body by the polio virus.
This happy story of medical marvel has a deadly glitch. And it is especially deadly if, like me, you received your vaccinations in the 1950s, in certain states like Massachusetts.
In 1960, researchers discovered that the polio vaccine distributed to certain states was infected with another virus called "Simian Virus 40." SV-40 is a monkey virus that is not normally found in humans. Unknown at the time, it was present in hundreds of rhesus monkeys that were used to grow and harvest the polio vaccine. Injected into research animals, the SV-40 virus causes brain and lung cancers. Now, some forty years later, its effect on humans is just being investigated.
SV-40 has appeared in 61% of all new cancer patients -- patients too young to have received the contaminated vaccine being administered forty years ago!
Michele Carbone, Assistant Professor of Pathology at Loyola University in Chicago, has recently isolated fragments of the SV-40 virus in human bone cancers and in a lethal form of lung cancer called mesotheliomas. He found SV-40 in 33% of the osteosarcoma bone cancers studied, in 40% of other bone cancers, and in 60% of the mesotheliomas lung cancers. Dr. Carbone believes this study explains why 50% of the current mesotheliomas being treated were no longer occurring in association with asbestos exposure, their traditional cause.
Researchers from the Institute of Histology and General Embryology of the University of Ferrara, lead by Dr. Fernanda Martini, discovered SV-40's presence in a variety other tumors. They found the rhesus monkey virus in 83% of choriod plexus papillomas, in 73% of ependymomas, in 47% of astrocytomas, in 50% of glioblastomas, and in 14% of meningiomas.
SV-40 also has been found in 23% of blood samples and 45% of sperm fluids taken from normal individuals! Researchers have determined the SV-40 virus can be transmitted sexually and through blood transfusions.
Even more shocking, SV-40 has appeared in 61% of all new cancer patients -- patients even too young to have received the contaminated vaccine being administered forty years ago! How could this happen?
http://www.viewzone.com/sv40.html
Yeh WTF aye charles? Why dontcha come on down and we can set you up to get all your vaccinations! Some people gotta learn the hard way I guess.
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Posted: 4/26/2008 8:55:38 PM | Yeh WTF aye charles? Why dontcha come on down and we can set you up to get all your vaccinations! Some people gotta learn the hard way I guess. - NwMke
> Don't get upset or waste your breath. There are some people who, if you say white, they will say black; if you say up, they will say down. They don't want to know. They think the government is run by a select group of wand-waving philanthropists with our best wishes at heart and an ever-ready tax cut ready on their agenda.
> Some people just don't want to know.
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Posted: 4/26/2008 9:31:03 PM | | Ha wow.... Who cares, I dont have any illegal substances with me when I drive... So you can check me all you want at the check points... Im clean.. Therefore I dont care. You can listen in on my conversations, I dont have anything to hide... Im not a terrorist... I dont make bombs, or distribute them out to people... All you may get out of me is whether or not Im going to my friend's house to catch the Stars game... I am a law abiding citizen of the United States an have not had a problem with any figure of law enforcement, or authority... Not a suck up either, just have common sense... lol Im not worried about this... So far it seems like only ones who are worried about this are the ones who DONT FOLLOW THE RULES lol token the REEFER anyone? Besides in a world getting worse an worse by the minute with people who would love to see us Americans beheaded on camera for a good laugh an cheer... Sounds like not too bad of an idea... As long I dont get shot walking down the street for listening to Metallica or anything like that Im fine... Putin, which is the Russian president for some people, was sayin Democracy is the root of terrorism from people having too much freedom after the hostage taking incident at the school in Russia by some rebel group... I dont really agree with that quote totally, but I see his point... Too much civil liberty can be a bad thing at times... The check point situation an what not is that big of deal.... Only thing that will come out of them is ye know possibly thwarting a terrorist attack, catching a murderer, drug dealer, rapist, or any other wanted fugitive... So what if it inconveniences you for a few minutes... Youll get over it an life will go on... | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 9:33:36 PM | When we first ran Geraldo's first story, SV-40, A Deadly Cure?
Some interesting points about this...
SV-40 wasn't discovered until 1960, several years after the first accidently contaminated vaccine was produced (I say accidently because it could not have been known that some of the vaccine had been contaminated since the virus had not yet been discovered). Shit happens, you don't know what you can't yet know.
Even more interesting is that analysis of preserved samples taken prior to the production of the vaccine have shown the presence of SV-40 in the human population PRIOR to anyone ever receiving the vaccine. Further, analysis of samples from living persons who were never exposed to the vaccine tested positive for SV-40 antibodies.
Seems it already existed in the human population irrespective of the vaccine contamination.
While it has been found in samples of a variety of cancer tissues, the majority of studies (done all over the world with hundreds of thousands of people) have found NO significant difference in the cancer rates of those who received the vaccine and those who did not.
Here is a sample (there is more if you like):
Olin et al. (1998), conducted a long-term follow-up study of 700,000 people in Sweden who received polio vaccine potentially contaminated with SV40 in 1957 as school-age children. Their results revealed no increased cancer incidence between persons who received vaccine containing SV40 and those who did not.
I could give you several other such "shocking" correlations for a variety of "apparently" inocuous things but, as we all know a correlation is not equivalent to a cause.
Irrespective of the relationship of SV-40 contamination of old polio vaccine and cancer, it definitely isn't evidence of a conspiracy around vaccines. It is a little hard to conspire to use something that is not yet known (as the SV-40 virus was unknown when the vaccine was accidently contaminated with it). | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 9:37:08 PM |
Some people just don't want to know.
Don't want to know what?
You mean all about those evil, shape-shifting, reptilian humanoids acting as humanities "prison warders" (a la David Icke)?
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| Well its starting.
Posted: 4/26/2008 11:34:21 PM | Hey Josh! Do we get RFID chips so that you can just scan us from a distance? That would be way easier wouldn't it? But of course Tatoos, say on the forearm, would be cheaper..... maybe like a barcode. I know people are worried about taxes...just trying to save the taxpayer some money.
http://www.spychips.com/
Oh wait, I totally forgot that the corporations will be sticking them in people's clothes etc. so it will just be very convenient for the LAW to tap into those data bases, and thankfully the corporations are keeping right in tough with the government. Plus, if you just started putting chips in people they might get all rilled up. It will be easier and seem less threatening if they are in stuff people carry on their body.
What should we do with the homosexuals too Josh? I do think that is still illegal in some states?
I'm going to sleep better knowing folks like you one day will be putting Rush Limbaugh in jail.
I have an idea you have a FINAL SOLUTION to all the problems..... | |
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| Well its starting. - You better believe it is!!
Posted: 4/26/2008 11:46:10 PM |
What I am wondering is WHY is the MSM just NOW talking about this problem? All
of the shows I listen to (Dr. Katherine Albrecht on WTPRN.COM, Alex Jones, Derry
Brownfield, Jack Blood, Dr. Stan Monteith, Pastor Butch Paugh on GCNLIVE.COM
have ALL been telling us to store food for awhile now. It's only a matter of weeks or
months until we have a MAJOR event here in the USA, which will bring on an invasion
to Iran. It's only a matter of time until the proverbial sh** hits the fan and we are
drawn into total martial law. What's even more frightening, is it will come from our
own government, and they will either blame it on domestic terrorists (i.e. Patriots),
or Iran. Will we even HAVE an election in November? I wouldn't doubt for a moment
that Bush will use this new 9/11 to stay in power indefinitely. Hold on to your seats
folks, it's only going to get worse from here on out.
Im not denying our Right, AHEM... Privileges are dissolving... But seriously... Are the black helicopters flying around your house to lady? You are going to feel foolish when McCain, Obama, or Hillary Clinton walk into the oval office this coming January... Just keep watching your Loose Change bullshit.... | |
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