| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 9:39:18 AM | There is a health care crisis, our employer-based system has broken down as more and more employers dodge offering health insurance to employees. What is his solution?
Our Social Security system is in for some tough times as the big demographic bubble of baby boomers retire and, although making large contributions into it now, when they retire there just are not enough worker contributuions projected to sustain it. What is his solution?
Iraq has gone on for five years, an incredible strain on the military with huge costs for veterans forecast far into the future and an incredible strain on our taxes at $2 trillion to "liberate" Iraq, will this simply go on for another four years or is there any end in sight with McCain?
More and more jobs are being outsourced to foreign countries where labor is cheap as we lose not only manufacturing but even whole service industries. Also, the jobs being created in the US are low wage jobs, or subcontractors with no benefits, or part-time, etc. What is McCain's plan for American job creation and manufacturing? Will Made in America ever mean anything again?
Despite the huge costs of a so-called "war" on two fronts, the looming Social Security crisis, potential costs related to climate changes, etc. we have a massive federal debt that appears to be snowballing. Our children and grandchildren and even great grandchildren will be required to pay federal taxes on our long-term debts and never see any benefit to themselves as they pay off our loans. What is McCain's plan for a balanced federal budget and reducing the national debt?
Food and gas prices continue to spiral ...what is McCain saying and what would he do about stemming this tide and keeping the price of these essentials reasonable? | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 12:40:18 PM | Well he'll certainly have the bully pulpit for campaign finance reform. Certainly hope he can come up with something.
He's always been a maverick senator in the GOP. The far right didn't want him as the candidate and I hope they choke on it. lol
Of course the far left won't like him either. I've heard a good compromise is one that everybody hates. lol | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 12:43:13 PM | | ^^^ Basically would be more of the same. Frankly, as of right now at least, my most honest prediction is that Hillary will end up somehow finagling the Dem nod (sadly b/c I'm an Obama supporter, but I'll take her over any Repub all day), and then she (and her hubby ...) will basically wipe the floor with this guy. The GOP didn't have a strong field to start with and primary numbers showed either a lot of apathy or.....something....on the part of GOP voters. Numbers seemed so low in comparison with Democratic turnout overall. | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 2:31:57 PM | Well, let me put this another way because apparantly we dont have any national problems and things are going so well what all we really have to do is figure out who's got the whackiest pastor?
Is there a crisis in health care at all? Rising uninsured, costs outpacing inflation, employers dumping responsibility, etc. .......or not? Is everything just dandy?
Is there going to be a problem with our Social Security system? A lot of us have put into it for a long time and apparantly only a minority of future retirees have any pension, not much for savings, and home equity, wel.... is everything just dandy here, too?
Is Iraq something we can afford and do indefinately? No need to end it?
No problem with the job market, the number going overseas, the massive trade imbalance, small farmers and ranchers and fishmen going out of business by the droves, manufac uturing a thing of the past, shitty jobs being created and damned few of them........no problem there? Is the market gonna fix it or is the market the culprit?
Food and gas prices continue to spiral ... no problem, just drive and eat less? No problems there, either, huh?
Nope, no problems at all. Hey, just bomb us some A-rabs, go after I-ran and everything will just take care of itself, fall into place, and be just as right as rain? | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 5:25:57 PM | From what I know about McCain he is going to
continue to use the counter-terrorism tools that we've had in place since 2001, ( I hope)
he's going to continue to fight the war on terror which in my understanding is not to be intimidated by terrorists and continue to disrupt their cells and cash flow all over the world.
I believe that McCain is going to continue the stabilization of Iraq, which I suspect all candidates would do.
McCain is going to keep a close eye on Iran
he has a Health Care Reform Plan
He will stop filling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to reduce demand, so he says.
He has a plan for the Housing Crisis
Cutting Taxes for the Middle Class
Pro-Growth, Pro-Jobs
He wants to eliminate Wasteful spending in the Govt.. yippee..
Reform Social Security
He wants to assist displaced workers..
etc.. etc.. etc.. Ethics Reform, Border Security.. etc. etc..
Can McCain Rehabilitate the United States? it's going to take more than 4 years for anyone to do that.. we won't see immediate results with whoever wins.. in my opinion. The past 8 yrs. have been filled with numerous challenges, from natural disasters, attacks on our Homeland, the Liberation and Stabiliation of Iraq, several financial disasters, the Mortgage debacle..etc.. etc.. enhanced Security, border issues.. the list goes on... | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 5:44:51 PM | .
Do tell how any member of the CFR, that is the council of foreign relations, (another
rockefeller group) do anything to reform anything?
Oh and by the way hitlery and oblama are members too.
So who is going to reform anything? The names change and they all sing the same song, but its a song we all know so well!!!
Oh and the gooks nicknamed him the "Songbird" because they didnt even need to torture him and he sang out all the command codes gave names numbers and addresses and sold out his brothers in arms and all they did was ask nicely!
The only person that stands a snowballs chance in hell is ron paul and no one has figured that out yet, they are all to busy worying about tommorrows entitlements to worry about the shit mess their kids inherit.
We are corporate owned my friend, bought and paid for!
Yeh mcsongbird! LOL
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 6:00:04 PM |
Juan Mcspain can barely control his bodily functions. Are you serious ?
Then he should be applauded.. some men might just stay home if they lose their bodily functions and not get involved in trying to reform our country. That would be the easy thing to do... just stay home. | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 8:34:42 PM | McCain is just plain SCARY. I sure as hell don't want someone
like him in the White House. All three of the "main" candidates
are interchangeable. In fact, I think Hillary is the most CONSERVATIVE
of the bunch. She's the anointed one, picked by the powers that be to win.
But at least we know what we're getting with her, I guess. No surprises. | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 8:37:48 PM | .
The biggest p[roblem of course when it comes to government is there are no translators to translate what they say into plain ole american language. Which of course is something I am quite good at. :)
From what I know about McCain he is going to
continue to use the counter-terrorism tools that we've had in place since 2001, ( I hope)
Yes the patriot act, spying on national telephone calls only this time we wont get caught. violating us citizens with forced searches and violating the 4th, taking all the guns away like we did at katrina in the face of the next disaster violating the second, continued free speech zones violating the 1st.
Yes we all HOPE!!
he's going to continue to fight the war on terror which in my understanding is not to be intimidated by terrorists and continue to disrupt their cells and cash flow all over the world.
Oh yes terror that shapeshifter that we can apply to anyone at any time for any reason and make it stick because there is not real and specific crime attached to it. It can be as little as dissent or disagreeing with the president. How rediculous he would NEVER do that right? Well thats what people said when the patriot act was passed to didnt they? Now they are doin git and glam feels protected from a bunch of people the government never proved committed a crime.
Sorry I dont chase ghosts.
I believe that McCain is going to continue the stabilization of Iraq, which I suspect all candidates would do.
How does he plan on doing that? Like bush did? We go in to steal their oil and you think we are going to stabalize them? Ask the vets over there how we stabilized them. All we did is destabilize them. We stabilized them so well all the neighborhood is joining in the fight against the invaders. Would you be stable if a bunch of assholes from across the pond were trying to steal your resources? Its a fantasy and you wanna fuck with the ME they dont forget. Wait till we get the blowback from this imperialistic dispicable act.
McCain is going to keep a close eye on Iran
Yeh we gotta keep that dolla hegemony strong and make sure that they arent building any Euromd's
he has a Health Care Reform Plan
Where? How does he plan on doing that?
He will stop filling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to reduce demand, so he says.
Another smoke screen. Most people have thrown away those old burners and moved to NG a long time ago.
He has a plan for the Housing Crisis
What dismantle the banking cartel that pulls this shit on us over and over again? Oh wait that was ron paul. Yeh pass some budget reform so the tax payer can write the perps a check to bail them out!!!
Cutting Taxes for the Middle Class
What a deal, cut taxes and raise inflation! Give us 50 cents off and charge us a buck to do it! Makes me feel so cozy!
Pro-Growth, Pro-Jobs
Do tell what exactly is a "pro growth" job?
He wants to eliminate Wasteful spending in the Govt.. yippee..
Yeh like schools etc right?
Reform Social Security
Bush said that too, so we are going to trust the guy who ratted out his brothers in arms? Nah I think not.
He wants to assist displaced workers..
Really? Where is his lets get rid of nafta, gatt etc etc etc bills?
etc.. etc.. etc.. Ethics Reform, Border Security.. etc. etc..
Oh yeh there is a good one for ethics alright! ;roll;
Can McCain Rehabilitate the United States? it's going to take more than 4 years for anyone to do that.. we won't see immediate results with whoever wins.. in my opinion. The past 8 yrs. have been filled with numerous challenges, from natural disasters, attacks on our Homeland, the Liberation and Stabiliation of Iraq, several financial disasters, the Mortgage debacle..etc.. etc.. enhanced Security, border issues.. the list goes on...
Reforming america is the ticket ron paul was running and he had the right formula to actually accomplish it, what these 3 stooges want to do is SSDD.
I am so excited!!
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 8:41:58 PM | | I could never vote for anyone who would say something, even rhetorically, to the effect of staying in Iraq for "100 years" . I personally wouldn't be surprised if the US embarked on Huge Strategic Blunder the Sequel: "This Time it's Even Worse", and tried an invasion of Iran under a McCain-led administration. Total nightmare. One of the main (one of the only) things I mainly dislike about Hillary was the fact that she played it so politically safe in 03 and voted to authorize Iraq. Other than that, IMO she and Obama are only going to be marginally different in things they're going to actually pursue upon potentially taking office (leaving some sort of major national healthcare reform as a legacy if possible, for example). To a great extent the Democratic Party is essentially arguing over semantics between the two of them. Obama has gained more "superdelegates" today, in any case, bringing him a silver lining to this otherwise cloudy rainy week. | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 8:47:54 PM | .
Well I suppose the real question is: What do we prefer? A single party dictatorship or a 2 party dictatorship?
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Posted: 4/30/2008 8:48:40 PM | It's going to take a President AND Congress working together in the best interests of the USA to get us rebalanced.
Do I, personally, want much rehabilitation? Heck NO... Why?? Because to change too much of the way the USA is will be going against what it was founded on. Freedoms.
The Catch-22 is that we all want our Freedoms.. but, we also want to be safe from another 9/11 or far worse.
Obama's voting record... 98% with the Dem. doesn't cut it.
Clinton's voting record ...97% with the Dem. doesn't cut it.
McCain's voting record... 88% with the Rep. is a helluva lot closer to cutting it.
I repeat... it will take Congress and President working together. We won't get that with Obama or Clinton.. We will stand a better chance of getting good/viable bills passed with McCain and Congress.
That's the way I see it personally, as one person, at this point in time. | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 8:51:52 PM | Simple, NO!
He has no plans above and beyond "I am a war hero"
He will say enough to get elected and do nothing.
So let's review our choices...
McCain will say enough to get elected and probably will since he is the safe bet as the only white male in the race.
Shrillary will say anything to get elected and do nothing and everyone will hate her per usual and again nothing gets done.
Obama will promise hope and just like changers before him like JFK he will not be able to do a damn thing. The powers that be will not allow it. He will want to but if he gets elected you better get used to the frustration shown in the Wright speech. He will get blocked by the real power of this country.
Damn shame we don't have a single dog in the race that can and will do a damn thing for the majority of us. | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 8:57:57 PM | No, McCain can't rehabilitate America.
I think Msg #10 summed it up nicely, and I agree with him. I'd never vote for McCain and its hard to see how he got so popular. Perhaps it was diebold vote fraud? I don't trust those electronic voting machines.
McCain has a bad temper, bad enough that some people think he's dangerous and unfit to be president. Here's an article about that
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/8/30/123006.shtml
I recently read a post about how former independent candidate for president Ross Perot(he had his downsides too) did not like John McCain, and why. McCain is a big supporter of NAFTA and CAFTA, trade agreements which Ross Perot warned would cause many jobs(blue collar)to leave the country, most of our industrial manufacturing base in America to disappear(he made the same argument that congressman Duncan
Hunter made, that having a good industrial manufacturing base in America was critical for national security reasons) and would cause increased illegal immigration. Seems Perot was right. Perot was a U.S. Navy Veteran and tried for 20 years to find MIAs and POWs in Vietnam and he does not like John McCain.
The Perot-McCain relationship goes back to McCain's five and a half years of captivity in Hanoi. When McCain's then-wife Carol was in a serious car accident, McCain's mother called Perot for help. "She asked me to send my people to Philadelphia to take care of the family," Perot says. Afterwards, McCain was grateful. "We loved him [Perot] for it," McCain told me in 2000.
Perot doesn't remember it that way. "After he came home, he walked with a limp, she [Carol McCain] walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona [Cindy McCain, his current wife] and the rest is history."
Perot's real problem with McCain is that he believes the senator hushed up evidence that live POWs were left behind in Vietnam and even transferred to the Soviet Union for human experimentation, a charge Perot says he heard from a senior Vietnamese official in the 1980s. "There's evidence, evidence, evidence," Perot claims. "McCain was adamant about shutting down anything to do with recovering POWs."
Check these links for more info
http://www.newsweek.com/id/94827
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=218264&Disp=369
Here is more info about McCain trying to cover up evidence of PoW's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaTNN09ocgM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaTNN09ocgM&feature=related
http://www.billdumas.com/
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
He also made it sound humorous to bomb iran, and he sang a brief song about it.
I also look up McCains record at ABI, and it does not look good(then again, Hillary and Obama don't look good there either). Here is the link
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=AZ&VIPID=33
If you remember, McCain tried to pass the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill(dubbed shamnesty by many who saw what a bad bill it was). McCain tried to pass it off as the solution to the illegal immigration problem and as something significantly different from amnesty(and he crafted it in backroom sessions with the input and veto power of the Nationa Council of La Raza,translated to english La Raza means The Race,and other organizations who were not really concerned with stopping illegal immigration, yet he included no organizations in the talks who really care about stopping illegal immigration such as The National Border Patrol Council, The American Legion, Numbersusa, Heritage foundation or Center for Immigration Studies), but it basically the same sort of plan. Check this link for more info
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/24/opinion/24meese.html
The McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill was S.1348 and senator sessions listed 20 loopholes in that bill
http://sessions.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=275456
McCain now says the he wants to secure the borders first before he introduces amnesty legislation again, but I don't even trust him(given his past record of being weak on illegal immigration) to seriously secure the border and keep it secured.
They say the best way to block amnesty bills(McCain, Obama and Hillary all favor them), is to let a democrat get into office. Democrats in the senate and house will mostly back an amnesty bill no matter if its introduced by a republican or a democrat. Republicans will mostly block an amnesty bill introduced by a democrat, but it would be harder to stop an amnesty bill if McCain is pushing it because more republicans will support it . So personally I'd rather see Obama or Hillary get elected than McCain, it will mean much less chance of an amnesty bill getting through.
McCain also reportedly is trying to block(I can see him blocking legislation like this because it doesn't include amnesty, and he had nothing to do with writing the legislation and recall back that during immigration reform discussions a year or two ago McCain yelled F*** you at John Cornyn and claimed he knew more about immigration reform than anyone else there) a bi-partisan immigration enforcement bill(one without amnesty included) that is much better than his McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill he tried to force on
America and it has a large number of republican and democrat co-sponsors and is called the SAVE Act that was introduced by a democrat, and was written by that same democrat with the help of a republican colleague.
http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20080326/NEWS/803260330
McCain also made the ridiculous comment saying something to the effect that American citizens won't pick lettuce for even 50 bucks an hour(I personally would pick lettuce for less than half that and know many other Americans who would too), that they cannot do it and illegals do the jobs Americans won't or can't do(he was rightly booed when he said that). He even offered to pay 50 bucks an hour to do it thinking that no one would take him up on his offer, some people in the audience did take him up on it, but he brushed them off.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=136956
Just goes to show how out of touch McCain is if he thinks American citizens are either so lazy or so greedy that they won't pick lettuce for even 50 bucks an hour.
Then McCain told people who lost jobs working at factories that they needed to retrain for high-tech related jobs, but unfortunately, if people do that, they will often get passed over for cheap foreign workers coming in on H-1B visas and will have trouble finding work(or if they do find it, they may get replaced with cheap foreign workers coming from overseas) because businesses often abuse the H-1B visas system to pass over qualified American workers.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40526
http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2004-04-06-replace_x.htm
So, to sum up, Msg #10 in this thread is right on the money. But then again, Hillary and Obama don't seem much better McCain.  If I had to choose between the lesser of the 3 evils, I might choose Hillary, at least she seemed more serious than Obama about re-negotiating NAFTA.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/29/canadian-paper-stands-by-_n_89177.html | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 9:00:39 PM | | Unique, are you stating above that JFK didn't do anything for this country while he was in office? Seriously? | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 9:03:47 PM | | No, I am saying he was frustrated by the status quo and he couldn't do as much as he wanted. He did do quite a bit but because of the power his family had which Obama doesn't have. He did much more his second term than his first. It took that long to do anything because he wanted to do so much and so much change as Obama is promising and wanting. The power interests are much more entrenched now than back then. Hence my thought on Obama. | |
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| Can McCain Rehabilitate America?
Posted: 4/30/2008 9:13:28 PM | Hi, violetskye
First off by saying I am a JFK fan, but having said that he ended up only being an average president. Also he and his brother continued Americas relentless attempt to meddle in everyone elses business | |
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