| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 10:05:02 AM | http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/04/albert_hofmann_1906-2008.html
RIP Albert. You have opened the doors of heaven.
Do you think this world is a better place because of the discovery of LSD, or would it be better if it was never discovered at all?
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 10:46:48 AM | Never having experienced the fruit of his labours, I can't say one way or the other. My ex husband swore by it though. Am I right in thinking that it was used to treat depression at one point? Or am I making that up? | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 10:47:50 AM | I wonder if the families of LSD victims who have lost loved ones because they thought they could fly and fell to their deaths will be saying RIP Albert Hofmann?
Its not surprising a newspaper like the guardian would have a blog making someone out like this to be a national hero after all when most of their readers are "liberal"
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 10:52:51 AM | I'm not saying one way or the other it can be good for people or bad I suppose.
But is there any evidence about these people who beleived they could fly and died after taking LSD? I've always heard it's a myth and well the effects aren't really like that giving you the idea you can fly. | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 10:57:40 AM |
I wonder if the families of LSD victims who have lost loved ones because they thought they could fly and fell to their deaths will be saying RIP Albert Hofmann? Which 'victims' would these be? like for like there are FAR fewer deaths related to LSD than to Alcohol. I've also never seen anyone using LSD getting into a fight, or falling over and puking in the street. Though I have seen them stand and stare at a coloured light for an hour or so.
The opinion of a person who knows nothing of the subject, has probably never tried it, and probably reads the daily mail.
You'll possibly now go trawling the internet, find an LSD related death and use this isolated case to 'prove' that I'm wrong. Feel free. I'm surprised you don't get run over wearing those blinkers though ;) | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 11:05:06 AM | The guy was a great chemist, LSD was primerily used to treat depression and to help other mental illnesses. 102 was a grand old age too!
Every illegal drug has its foundations routed in curing disease and pain. I think the German company Bayer marketed heroin as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children in the early 1900's. | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 11:18:28 AM | The opinion of a person who knows nothing of the subject, has probably never tried it, and probably reads the daily mail. Msg 8.. Actualy I read the Daily Sport because I like looking at big breasts which will always give me more of a high than taking some stupid mind controlling drug any day........ HTH | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 11:19:08 AM | not only was it developed for the phsychiactric field,later to become a recreational drug known to transport the mind to another dimension,it has also been known to be an excellent drug for cluster headaches. Ive never been tempted to try it myself but i have seen the effects of LSD on others,its pretty scary to watch so i cant even begin to imagine what it would be like to experience. | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 11:27:01 AM | "In December 2007, Swiss medical authorities permitted a psychotherapist to perform psychotherapeutical experiments with patients who suffer from terminal stage cancer and other deadly diseases. Although not yet started, these experiments will represent the first study of the therapeutic effects of LSD on humans in 35 years"
Maybe the true wonders of this drug are yet to be seen !!
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 11:33:31 AM | For the recored for the UK 1994 and 1996 death rate. 1994 1996 Heroin 80 187 Methadone 259 357 Temazepan 165 95 Amphetamin 20 29 Cocaine/Crack 21 15 Ecstasy 23 12 Cannabis 12 4 LSD 1 0
On the other hand.........
Alcohol 4,235 Tobacco 120.000 Peanuts 7 Viagra 7
so more people die from eating a peanut than LSD | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 12:20:11 PM |
Actualy I read the Daily Sport because I like looking at big breasts which will always give me more of a high Firstly, this doesn't suprise me, secondly, how would you know if you haven't tried, thirdly, who compared one to the other?
give me more of a high than taking some stupid mind controlling drug any day........ It doesn't control the mind, it screws up the synaps connections, making strange and random thought occur.
At least try to have some knowledge of what you're having 'an opinion' on
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 12:35:28 PM |
For the recored for the UK 1994 and 1996 death rate. 1994 1996 Heroin 80 187 Methadone 259 357 Temazepan 165 95 Amphetamin 20 29 Cocaine/Crack 21 15 Ecstasy 23 12 Cannabis 12 4 LSD 1 0
On the other hand.........
Alcohol 4,235 Tobacco 120.000 Peanuts 7 Viagra 7
so more people die from eating a peanut than LSD
7 people died from Viagra????? I wonder if they had a smile on their face? And had it gone down again before rigor set in????? | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 12:40:58 PM | LSD is an amazing experience, but it can mess you up. Not that I've been messed up from it, but I have seen other people who have, and I did once have a really bad trip (trip means LSD for those of you who don't know).
I don't bother with drugs anymore though, I'm just not that interested, been there and done it throughout my teenage years, I'm 32 now. | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 12:51:41 PM | WARNING - LSD and the circle line (London Underground) DO NOT mix ;) Ever.......
Tried it a few times before I had my son, enjoyed the experience, haven't felt the urge to do it or any other drugs (illegal) since really. But I do recall being a very shiney happy person at the time :) | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 12:51:48 PM | Am I allowed to go back to the Original Post?
If it wasn't for Albert Hoffman then the doors wouldn't be 'The Doors' ..Surely?
The world is a neither a better/worse place than any of us let it be.
History makers make history. | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 12:57:38 PM | ok I know next to nothing about LSD and never been tempted into the illegal drug taking however if thats your bag then thats ok.
my question is did Albert Hofmann "invent" LSD or did he "discover" it? | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 1:00:54 PM | Took it a few times, when i was about 23.
Now the only reference to LSD i like, is the reference in Skins. Where Chris says to the potential buyer of a squirmy bed sit, ' Great to do LSD in'. Which coincidently was Light Space and Draws.. | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 1:07:17 PM |
ok I know next to nothing about LSD and never been tempted into the illegal drug taking however if thats your bag then thats ok.
my question is did Albert Hofmann "invent" LSD or did he "discover" it?
LSD doesn't have to be made. Magic mushrooms, and the Eargot fungus on wheat contain LSD. | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 1:11:26 PM | At least try to have some knowledge of what you're having 'an opinion' on Msg 15... I was joking about being a Daily Sport reader but accept your point about having knowledge of a subject if your going to make an opinion on any given topic.
I'm strongly against all drugs having seen the damage they can do to people at close hand and seen good friends become almost zombie like through years of smoking illegal substances which have ruined their lives and their families......
Thats all I'm saying on the matter now except address the topic not the poster in future please.... | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 1:15:39 PM | | He was like a father to me, I first tried his products 16 or so years ago ! What a nice man :) LOL, he made LSD instead of developing the Atomic Bomb ! Well done that man :p | |
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| Albert Hofmann inventor of LSD dies age 102 Posted: 4/30/2008 1:55:26 PM | | I'm sure it has been consumed for centuries before him. Some ancient tribes eat foods which have psychadelic effects, some of them may contain LSD. They do this for rituals. | |
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