| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 5:32:18 AM | Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Is it only the weak minded,the vulnerable or inpressionable who take drugs?
Is it a quirk of fate that leads a person to start taking drugs?
Is it a sign of a persons personality that allows them to resist temptation?
At what stage do you step in and advise someone close about the effects and consequences of there drug taking?
would you knowingly get involved with a user?
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| Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 5:37:41 AM | Interesting (and complicated) set of questions, OP.
Some clarification is perhaps required though....
are you including legal drugs/prescription drugs? | |
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| Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 5:45:19 AM | Illegal drugs are a choice that a free thinking person can choose to try or not, best they are well informed before trying them, it is absurd that possesing them also makes you a criminal...free country my arse.
My body i'll do what I want with it.
My son will be well informed and while he is still a minor he will not be trying any but when he hits 18 and I am no longer the law he will have all the support I can give him should he choose to try any.
A lot of the illegal drugs are nicer than the legal drugs the medical proffesion will give you. | |
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 5:56:02 AM |
Is it only the weak minded,the vulnerable or inpressionable who take drugs? It depends upon which drug you are talking about. In my opinion, and experience, it is often open minded people, people who seek to expand their experience and knowledge who experiment with mind altering substances. Course, there are also those who behave like sheep and never consider the consequences of their actions.
Is it a quirk of fate that leads a person to start taking drugs? I believe it varies. Sometimes fate lands an acquaintance in your life who introduces you to things, sometimes people set out to find and experiment with all sorts of things.
Is it a sign of a persons personality that allows them to resist temptation? Some would see NOT taking opportunities to expand ones experience as a stupid thing, some would see 'resisting temptation' as an opportunity lost, and some just say "Drugs = Bad" and close their minds.
At what stage do you step in and advise someone close about the effects and consequences of there drug taking? Surely one decides this at the time? Don't we all offer advice/opinions about all things which effect people we care about? I feel very strongly that it is a parents responsibility (for example) to make themselves aware of what drugs may be on offer to their children, and learn as much as possible about those drugs, so that they can advise their kids from and informed position and not one of ignorance which will immediately be seen through by their kids - and ignored!
would you knowingly get involved with a user? Depends on the person/drug/frequency/etc. | |
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 6:06:35 AM | Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
lots of people from the poor to the rich.
Is it only the weak minded,the vulnerable or inpressionable who take drugs?
nope they can be a path to either enlightment or self destruction.
Is it a quirk of fate that leads a person to start taking drugs?
it is a choice you make when offered them
Is it a sign of a persons personality that allows them to resist temptation?
i don't know
At what stage do you step in and advise someone close about the effects and consequences of there drug taking?
when they are getting into or talking of getitng into heavy shit like heroin/crack
would you knowingly get involved with a user?
it wouldn't bother me, unless again it was heroin, etc....
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 6:11:56 AM | I don't take them and never would. Plus there is that little fact that they are ILLEGAL!
I, personally, have never understood the reason why people take these substances. Surely there are the same ways in life to get that: buzz, rush, mellow feeling, or whatever else it's supposed to do.
Go and play a sport, or ride a bike down a hill, climb a mountain, go for a run, or the best of all find yourself a nice partner and have copious amounts of nookie  | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 6:24:01 AM |
Go and play a sport, or ride a bike down a hill, climb a mountain, go for a run, or the best of all find yourself a nice partner and have copious amounts of nookie
Sport: I used to be an accomplished windsurfer, sailed in the Poly nationals and still have a huge interest in sailing.
Ride a bike down a hill: I used to own a mountain bike and used to go dirt tracking often.
Go for a run: At one point in my life I was running 6 miles a day before breakfast
Find a partner and have sex: Have had a nice partner, and copious sex.
Oh, AND I've tried lots different drugs too!
One way of living doesn't preclude the other.
Nor have I ever been addicted to any illegal drug.
Oh, and I'm in th 40% tax bracket too, so I can't be doing too much wrong. | |
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 6:32:28 AM |
Sport: I used to be an accomplished windsurfer, sailed in the Poly nationals and still have a huge interest in sailing.
Ride a bike down a hill: I used to own a mountain bike and used to go dirt tracking often.
Go for a run: At one point in my life I was running 6 miles a day before breakfast
Find a partner and have sex: Have had a nice partner, and copious sex.
OK I am now intrigued because this taking drugs stuff truly does not make any sense to me at all and never has.
If you have experienced all these natural highs and still can/do then why on earth take drugs?
I'm certainly not judging you as a person or your lifestyle. I really and truly just don't get it. | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 6:47:19 AM | msg 5;
<div class='quote'>Some would see NOT taking opportunities to expand ones experience as a stupid thing, some would see 'resisting temptation' as an opportunity lost, and some just say "Drugs = Bad" and close their minds.
I am sure some people do see as it as "stupid" and "an oppertunity lost" to "expand ones experiences"
Presumably those people who think this way think that everyone should try everything they can?
But some have been on the ride and decided they wanted to get off before they seen the whole journey.
some prefer to walk there own course and not get on at all!
Personally,i took solvents in my youth then after a few terrible experiences with "the less harmefull" drugs,got off early and decided i didnt want to see any more.
I know that if i had progressed i would have done serious harm at the very least.
So,those who consider it a lost oppertunity to experience everything would not have been friends that i would have wanted to listen too.
Not taking the oppertunity to experience everything wasnt a stupid choice for me.
Closing your mind to taking drugs,or not experimenting with anything harder than what your used too isnt a bad cut off point,is it?
Curiosity killed the cat. | |
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 6:51:26 AM | OK I am now intrigued because this taking drugs stuff truly does not make any sense to me at all and never has.
If you have experienced all these natural highs and still can/do then why on earth take drugs?
I'm certainly not judging you as a person or your lifestyle. I really and truly just don't get it.
Well...........because it was fun!
I can't say I ever lived a druggy lifestyle, but it is more just a recreational pleasure.
I have a mind strong enough to cope with hallucinogenics, so I tried them, and they really were fun. The high is very different to those mentioned above. It's the surreal brought to life.
As for coke and amphetamines, well, as a younger lad they just seemed the natural way to extend my ability to party (though I always made it to work on Monday)
To be honest, If you are a fit, sensible, strong minded person, I can't see a reason NOT to try drugs.
If you're not however, if you're weak minded, lack self discipline and the kind of person prone to addiction, they're definitely not for you!!!
In all honestly, I have problems understanding YOUR stance. I mean..........why drink beer?
Why do anything?
I've sat on a beach in the south of France, slightly drunk on local red wine, bloated from barbecued food, and completely stoned in a very mellow haze just tickled pink at how bloody wonderful the world is. What's not to like about that?
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I don't have kids, but if I did, I would never ever discourage them from experimenting, rather, I would give them the benefit of what I know.
Before anyone says 'that's because you don't have kids and don't understand'.........no, it's because when my parents found out I was smoking pot and taking LSD occasionally, they told me everything about the drugs concerned, how to deal with the feelings I might have, what to watch out for, that I should never take just anything given to me by any old person. I even had the occasional spliff with them too.
Leah Betts did not die because she took an E, she died because she didn't know what she was taking and didn't know to keep herself hydrated.
Perhaps if she'd not felt the need to hide her experimentation from her parents, she'd be alive. Ok, she'd be alive if she hadn't taken the drug, but why SHOULDN'T a young mind experiment? | |
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 7:03:01 AM | Msg 11;
I have a mind strong enough to cope with hallucinogenics, so I tried them, and they really were fun. The high is very different to those mentioned above. It's the surreal brought to life
Does it really mean that your mind is stronger becouse your able to cope with hallicinogenics?
Some prefer to be in control of there thought patters and prefer the comfort of there usual thought proccesses.
So,can the opposit in fact be true? | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 7:04:33 AM | Funny how certain members of our society although not everyones priviledged describe themselves as having loads of dosh , positions of power,an because they can only find their kicks in taking loser drugs with the rest of druggies there no better than the people in the gutters,
"A tip for useless druggies" go for a visist in your local mental health places an see where you will end up,being medicated, locked up now an no where to go.  | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 7:07:22 AM | Does it really mean that your mind is stronger becouse your able to cope with hallicinogenics?
Some prefer to be in control of there thought patters and prefer the comfort of there usual thought proccesses.
So,can the opposit in fact be true?
No.
The inability to cope with something is not a strenght.
Being able to deal with hallucinations means you are not trying to hold on too tightly to pre conceived notions.
It doesn't have to mean that you take the experiences seriously though, do you take your thoughts when you're drunk seriously?
It's only those with some inbuilt instability who suffer when taking drugs.
(for instance, I'm not very good with cocaine, I'm already quite arrogant, and tend to start thinking I'm about 3 pay grades above any god who might or might not be around)
Funny how certain members of our society although not everyones priviledged describe themselves as having loads of dosh , positions of power,an because they can only find their kicks in taking loser drugs with the rest of druggies there no better than the people in the gutters,
"A tip for useless druggies" go for a visist in your local mental health places an see where you will end up,being medicated, locked up now an no where to go.
In the same way that it would be wrong for Mike Tyson to get into a ring with Lee Evans, It would be wrong of me to debate with someone like you :) | |
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 7:28:43 AM |
Is it only the weak minded,the vulnerable or impressionable who take drugs? I think also that you have to include inquisitive and people who take them to self medicate, through mental health issues.
Is it a quirk of fate that leads a person to start taking drugs? Many people try drugs for different reasons. Certainly, peer pressure can have much to do with it. Class A drugs are categorised it this way for a reason, with the exception of ectascy, magic mushrooms and LSD, people who use heroin, crack, amphetamine will more than likely find their drug use becomes problematic at some point.
would you knowingly get involved with a user? Depends what they were using? Anyone who used drugs intravenously no. If they used crack or smoked heroin, again no, because their drug use, if it is not already problematic will certainly become a problem, its in the post as they say.
If a person was an ex user then yes, I wouldn't have a problem dating them. Many of us have certain life experiences, who am I to judge? | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 7:32:07 AM | YOU DONT WANT to or cant debate it why because it goes against your grain that people loathe it,or i find it gross,
an can find only negative connatations assossciated with drugs, an seen an nursed very very ill people through your cool drugs, as your obviously an arrogant t@sspot stuck up your own a##hole keep taking an perhaps next time a overdose may show how dangerous playing with crap is.but dont call me.get your partner to call 999
but not here to preach to the ignorant among you, just my personnal views,have a nice day   | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 8:00:40 AM | got a friend with MS who is wheelchair bound, apparently taking weed could let him walk and stuff, plus less pain, but drugs are bad and so he gets to sit in his own poo all day and every day gets worse
plenty of people with problems caused by overdosing on class a's
if people are against drugs, maybe they should abstain from alcohol (metabolic poison) and nicotine based products (tobacco) | |
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 8:22:36 AM |
Is it only the weak minded,the vulnerable or inpressionable who take drugs?
People from all walks of life. Mostly the vulnerable ones, the weak minded ones. These are the ones who will easily get sucked in into the 'druggie world'
I personally would not step in and tell someone to stop whatever drugs they're taking. As long as they dont use my money.
would you knowingly get involved with a user?
Depends. If its cocaine/heroine then i would not want to know them. They can get stuffed. | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 8:34:44 AM | "A tip for useless druggies"
A little judgemental and seems to ignore the fact that people with 'drug problems' tend to use drugs as escapism rather than out of choice....
Recreational drug use is down to personal choice and many do so occasionally at the weekend and then work a full working week, the same as a few pints and excess alcohol makes me for one very ill.
As for the local mental health places...
Its very easy to get booked into a mental health ward nowaday's...so many shrinks with not much to do, having a mental health problem is the new 'having a bad back' and the way a lot of people get signed off on the sick. Cut off their giro and see how long they last without their sky tv.
Women can get boob jobs on the NHS if they convince their doctors they have low enough self esteem...
Shame people who need treatment for bad health struggle to actually get it cos of the vast amount wasted on 'mental health'. | |
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 8:47:15 AM | Have never taken illegal drugs in my life. They do scare the living daylight out of me.
Friend of mine has a joint once in a while and that is ok with me. Just dont bring the stuff into my house, where my kids live.
I have seen what cocain does to people and how they change. Not for me. | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 8:56:16 AM | There's always a query for me when I read statistics about mental health issues associated with recreational drug use....
The statistics don't have a 'control' study to compare them to.
So - who is to say that the sort of people who experiment/use recreational drugs are not the sort of people who would be more pre-disposed to mental health issues whether they use/d drugs or not? | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 9:01:48 AM | I have taken alot of things in the past nothing in over a year though I stopped after I had got everything I wanted from it really. I learnt alot from it and don't regret anything.
All through the time I was taking them I still worked a full week and some weekends my day to day life wasn't affected in the slightest. It was just a recreational thing for me as is Alcohol just enhanced situations I suppose I was never even tempted to take drugs on my own it was 100% a social thing.
I think as long as your sensible and know what your doing your relatively safe. I never had a single bad experience neither did anyone I was with. I think the trouble starts if you already have problems, low confidence etc and are trying to get away from it all. Some people can seem to get addicted to anything.
I have never once felt addicted to anything and it's something I could go without doing again.
Anything can be bad if it's over the top more down to the person then what they are doing.
Through it all I rockclimbed, mountain biked and had a normal life plenty of things can give you enjoyment it doesn't need to be one or the other. | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 9:12:49 AM | One last question before i have to shoot off,Can you recover fully from taking too many drugs?
Are you left with side effects that are ever present or lasting?
What convinces illegal drug users that there in control of there habit/pastime?
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 9:13:44 AM | I felt like a criminal just the other day having a smoke on a station platform and
thought any second now the serious crime unit are going to storm the area with
armed weapons and take me away for questioning under the prevention of terrorism act. | |
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| Illegal Drugs- Who takes them?
Posted: 5/1/2008 9:16:31 AM | Kit Kat Crunchy, worse than heroine?
Just had one, tut tut, 4 to go in the pack, how long will they last? Smacks head , nope mustn't have another, ohhh tis worse than heroine.
Might take a break from work in a min, ohhh no the temptation. | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 9:19:28 AM | I don not agree that drugs are not addictive! they are, when what you are taking stops giving you a buzz you then seek something stronger.
I have lost a cousin to drugs, she used drugs for many years and evetually at age 35 her body gave up, could not take anymore.
A member of my family has also been on almost everything, not needles though. It started with cannabis, he lost his plumbing course he had been on for 2 years and his job! his life has been a mess for over 2 years now as he tries to get out of the mess he has got himself into.
Studys have proven that even cannabis effects the brain and can bring on paranioa and mental health issues.
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