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 Mike71

Joined: 11/13/2003
Msg: 1
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/2/2008 8:50:27 AM
Okay, has any other man noticed how shallow the women are on here? I went ona few dates with one woman, acted like a perfect gentleman, and we got along great and had so many common interests...she suddenly pulls her ad off, and says the qualityof online men "aren't in her league" and that the man in her life "has to be from a different social status." I still have no idea what she means. I am not rich, but I do make ends meet. All I do know is apparently she thnks she is too good for me, or ANY man online here. Anyone else know who I mean email me! Any women out there REALY want a good guy anymore? Or is it ALL about looks and money. I have news for you..we are all online...enough said.
 DRNelson24

Joined: 4/22/2007
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/2/2008 11:16:26 AM
looks and money dude. every single woman in the intre world is shallow. they all think of you as a broke fugly dude.

Oh isn't that what you wanted to hear?

so what? screw the girl and go find another one. if you think i don't make enough money or don't look good, then do something about it and stop complaining.

everyday there is a new guy complaining about how he can't find anyone on here or some other BS.

I'm about to leave this site just cause i'm tired of hear this crap day in and day out.
 matthew_stephan

Joined: 4/14/2008
Msg: 3
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/2/2008 4:48:17 PM
Not just money or social status
I have both I Can't even get a date for a big movie premier and after party in Hollywood. However in their defense, I am extremely picky
( I know the actor with the lead role)
They must be looking for
Ken dolls with all the above.

Maybe if you start handing out a BMW to the 1st that goes out on at lease 5 dates with you?
Who knows
I'm now going to a private match maker for wealthy guys. I see how that goes
 Deb8562

Joined: 4/18/2008
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/3/2008 5:17:07 AM
Not all women are shallow. That's like me saying "all men are *ss holes that just want to get laid." None of you guys sound that way. Maybe some of the women just aren't ready to date or they get scared. Yes, we big mean shallow women do get scared about a multitude of things, and I'm not talking about snakes or spiders O.K., maybe snakes, like the guy that's married and doesn't tell you until the end of the night, while he's kissing you?! What gives with that. Patience is what it takes to get through life and relationships. Like the name says, there's plenty of fish out there. You just have to keep casting till you find one that you want to keep.

Deb
 Mike71

Joined: 11/13/2003
Msg: 5
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/3/2008 11:42:34 AM
Well, I do not "screw the girl and go find another." Maybe I am too well mannered. Guys that screw the girl and move on give honest, good guys like myself no shot because they make all men fall into the stereotype. And as for complaining, isn't that what forums are for? To communicate ideas and thoughts? If you are tired of hearing "this crap" day in and day out, take yourself off thee site or just stop reading the forums. Not hard to figure out, is it?
 Karrpilot

Joined: 1/26/2007
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/3/2008 3:20:19 PM
I am not so sure i went out with a shallow woman, but i did go out with one who thought she was royalty. And thought i should treat her with 100 % respect and dignity. As well as opening and closing the car door everytime she got into and out of my car. As well as the door for any place we went, and that i should act 100 % a gentelman and stand up and sit down with her every move. As well as pulling out and pushing in her chair for her etc. That got old REALLY fast. She wasn't no princess, and i ain't no prince. Some other guy from POF can have that gem.
 illinois guy

Joined: 3/22/2008
Msg: 7
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/3/2008 7:31:43 PM
i have to agree on one thing, i have talked to several women here, they seem nice but i really dont believe they are looking for someone.i guess that sums up my feelings on the subject- short and to the point.is it that they are shallow, or just playing the field?any way, i'll hang in there. i patiently raised my son as a single custodial parent from the time he was 11 when his mother was proven unfit, i can wait longer.
 LocaLinda

Joined: 3/16/2008
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/3/2008 8:54:31 PM
Hey, Mike!

Whar's with the sweeping generalization? You mention one bad experience & suddenly it's "what's with the shallow WOMEN here." Shallowness goes both ways, such is life. Have you seen the guys on this that won't even communicate with a woman without a picture? And how about all these 50 somthing guys that want to date someone in her 30s - please!

I'm new to this online stuff & have been told that it takes a considerable amount of time before one finds the right connection(s). You sound like a great guy, you've got some nice pictures so I am sure, if you hang in there, you'll find someone. Nothing in life that's worthwhile comes easy or so they say. If I was a heck of alot younger, I'd be trying to meet you for coffee. So, hang in there & don't be so quick to judge. No gender has a lock on jerks - sad to say....
 DRNelson24

Joined: 4/22/2007
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/8/2008 1:17:37 PM
@ Mike 71

I meant the metaphoric screw not the literal sense.
 cgeb595

Joined: 4/15/2008
Msg: 10
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/8/2008 6:50:56 PM
Hey now, we aren't all shallow! And what about the guys who won't give the time of day if you don't look like a Barbie doll?? What's up with that??

Seriously, there are some real women here that appreciate things in life that don't require huge amounts of cash, and aren't looking to climb the social ladder.
 nursecamp

Joined: 8/22/2005
Msg: 11
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/9/2008 9:58:31 AM
Wait, hmmm shallow never.Think some of you may be looking in all the wrong places.I have na full life, busy, travel ,work hard, do not look for a man to pay my way!! ! Maybe why I do not date alot from this site, maybe have learned to do so much for my self,I scare the men away LOL.Hang in there,I am special and alot of other ladies here are special some day that lady will come along.
 plp925

Joined: 10/7/2007
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/10/2008 9:50:23 AM
Generalizing won't accomplish anything. That's like saying that all boats sink.

If finding the love of your life was so easy, there wouldn't be a need for a dating site in the first place. We would just all hang out in the produce department of the grocery store.
 clk128

Joined: 10/9/2005
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:07:19 AM
Totally agree. Generalizing isn't good. And it kind of makes you look bad in front of other prospective women ...
 KimberLynn40

Joined: 5/6/2008
Msg: 14
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/10/2008 7:54:08 PM
Mike, not all women are bad, nor are all men. Unfortunately, you had a bad experience - don't let that bring you down or make you give up. All good things come to those who wait. Keep fishing, you'll get a grand catch when the time is right.
 lostintheshuffle

Joined: 5/8/2008
Msg: 15
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/12/2008 2:30:59 PM
I've had 2 women from this area (it is an IL forum) tell me on the first date they need a man to make $60,000 a year. I had another woman joke that she's only after rich men. Yeah that was not a joke. In fact she even told me it was the truth in date 3.

Interestingly enough that girl is on all of the dating sites, flaunting her stuff. She has no job, told me she will never have a job, and she can get any man and his money because of her looks.
 PhotoCandi

Joined: 3/10/2008
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/14/2008 11:05:27 AM
It's all about looks and money! lol- totally kidding! I personally could care less about money, but I feel that there obviously has to be some form of attraction to begin ANY romantic venture. And, I don't think matters of finance should be brought up for a loooong time- and if any woman even brings it up on a first date, RUN! But, here's my personal take from my own expiriences:

Guys: How about a little confidence? Women are DEFINATLY attracted to confidence! I can't tell you how many dates I have been on where things start out great (i'm obviously attracted to you because I went out with you!) and then a guy pulls a line like- "you're sooo gorgeous I can't believe you actually went out with me" followed by a "i'm outta shape, and I don't really make much money- i'm just a (___insert occupation) why do you want to go out with me?" Ok guys, don't cut yourselves short, even if you feel this way--- Don't let this show or be said (at least for a few dates!) and don't overly "fish" for compliments, It's a turn-off. I'm not saying to be****, but some women are really just looking for a nice guy with confidence to make her feel special, flattery is one thing but don't overdo it- and don't put yoursef down.

Rest assured, there are still a few GOOD women out there (and online) who are just busy professionals looking for a GREAT man to enrich their lives. We are all going to meet men and women lacking class and integrity at some point- just keep looking for the right one, he/she's out there!
 menace333

Joined: 11/11/2007
Msg: 17
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/15/2008 1:19:28 PM
The golddiggers are the really shallow ones; luckily I've found it's easy to discover who they are because they're so careless with their thoughts. I'm always amused by the ones looking for honesty, integrity, character, etc, but then won't talk to you if you don't have a picture posted! However, all should be welcomed & treated with respect; the guys on here just have to get better at reading between the lines, for the hidden message.

I can appreciate Photocandi's remarks, as some women have told me that many guys are ok until they open their mouth. So, gentlemen, think about this for a moment: the lord gave you 2 ears & 1 mouth - you think he's trying to tell you something?

Photocandi seems to have her head on straight, her act together, quite an accomplishment for a 25 year old! If only I were 20 yrs younger.......
 bevy06

Joined: 5/14/2007
Msg: 18
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/28/2008 1:53:12 PM
I personally think the guys on this sight are the "shallow and self centered on this site."
If a woman does not look like a Barbie doll of some sort the average American does not want to even talk to the person. No us are not shallow .........maybe you have just been dating the wrong kind of women. ......I think it's pretty bad when someone I have never meet before tells me"Hey, babe I don't have time for you because your butt ugly"......Now doesn't that sound shallow. I am not that rude to tell someone that but I do think it means the person is pretty shallow.
I personally will say meeting people on this site is rather interesting and not everyone is looking for the same thing .......I will admit some poeople male or female might be looking just to get laid.........but that is everyone's personally choice and no two people are alike but Please what ever you do do not classify all women as shallow.....
you just meet the women who are ....................
Bev
 retrofuturistic

Joined: 6/11/2004
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/30/2008 6:09:22 PM
Yes, the women at POF are incredibly shallow even by Chicago's incredibly shallow standards. I don't think it's a POF thing so much as a big city thing - big city people are just more hurried, already have large friend groups/cliques, and live in an environment where money and material goods are overvalued in terms of importance......so big cities are obviously going to produce people who are on average infinitely more shallow than their small town counterparts, not deep thinking people who will actually take the time to get to know new people.. "Sex and the City" is set in a big city for a reason.....because big cities are notorious for producing the kind of moronic and shallow women who are the 4 main characters in the show/movie.

POF, unfortunately, is representative of the kind of women who live in Chicago. And I don't mean that in a good way. I have never met anyone from POF and don't expect it to ever happen. The only types of women here seem to be shallow ones looking for perfect alpha males and the psychotic ones just looking to hurt people and screw around with guy's heads and play games. As far as decent, kind women with some morals in terms of how they treat other people, you need to drive at least 40 miles outside of Chicago's most distant suburbs before you start finding genuine women of quality with heart, soul, passion, and compassion. Chicago women simply exist to be golddiggers and overconsumers.
 fly0nthewall

Joined: 3/18/2008
Msg: 20
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/30/2008 6:51:45 PM
drlolipop - I'm not sure where in the city you've been looking, but I can assure you we're (Chicago women) not all like you described. Yes, my life may be busy, but it's more of the work/education variety than anything else. Is it possibly the type of women you've been trying to contact? Don't lump us all under the same blanket. It's a big city, and not all of us are the same. Bitterness is attractive in no one.

You say you've never met anyone from POF. Why not? I joined up back in October and have met lots of nice people. Not all of them were necessarily people I would have talked to otherwise, and only one turned into a relationship, but I'm not ready to give up completely yet.
 retrofuturistic

Joined: 6/11/2004
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/30/2008 8:10:59 PM
fly0nthewall - I'm not being bitter, simply stating the facts based on my 2 decades of experience in dealing with Chicago women as compared to other parts of the country.

My experience has also been that you heap effusive praise on yourselves but do nothing whatsoever to back up what you're saying, to practice what you preach. You all want to be perceived as "friendly and accepting" people while reserving your right to be complete b!tch!s toward any and all men who don't fit a very rigid, and specific set of criteria. The local guys might have brainwashed to ignore this little inconsistency, but I certainly haven't. My experiences with Chicago area native women have been uniformly rotten compared to my experiences with women from other locales and I can't help but believe there are certain media influences and cultural factors that make Chicago women more cold, conceited, arrogant, materialistic, shallow, cliquey, snobby, and unapproachable than any other group of women within 900 miles in any direction.

I have been lucky enough to spend lots of time in the Southern U.S....a place where women are kind, flirtatious, approachable, feminine, and accepting toward a remarkably wide range of men. It really puts the awfulness and unjustified arrogance of Chicago women in very sharp perspective. When it comes to being decent, respectful, and fair toward men, Chicago women just might rank as the worst women on the face of the earth. With their exceptional intelligence/high levels of education and occasional tendency to be drawn to quirky, imperfect men, even New York women are far superior to Chicago women in my opinion.

Do I believe there are exceptions to the Chicago rule? Absolutely not. Women from the Chicago area are just varying degrees of cold, nasty, and evil and most of their self-esteem seems to be derived from treating most men like garbage..
 retrofuturistic

Joined: 6/11/2004
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/30/2008 8:19:05 PM
fly0nthewall - Forgot to mention the reason I've met nobody here is none of you ladies feel like I'm even worth acknowledging the existence of, which makes it pretty hard to meet anyone. If you were a guy you would know that the guys who are not great looking and not rich get completely ignored here., as they do in most any other part of Chicago society. So I expect I'll never meet anyone from POF as you ladies are just too busy chasing down the Brad Pitts and the Donald Trumps to want to know those of us who actually have imperfections.
 fly0nthewall

Joined: 3/18/2008
Msg: 23
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/30/2008 10:23:20 PM
Your mileage may vary, but none of the people I've met here have been of the Brad Pitt or Donald Trump variety. Probably because neither of those things is of great importance to me, and let's face it - I'm not exactly a supermodel either. I like average guys. Of course, attitude is everything. Best of luck to you in your search.

Edited to add: I read your profile, and though it was probably tongue-in-cheek, it made me smile. If it weren't for opposing views on children, I likely would have emailed you when I first joined.
 retrofuturistic

Joined: 6/11/2004
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What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 5/31/2008 6:28:07 AM
fly0nthewall - Yes my profile is tongue in cheek - I changed it when it became obvious I had no potential to ever meet any of the incredibly selective women of Plentyoffish.
 Matthew2785

Joined: 9/26/2006
Msg: 25
What's with the shallow women here?
Posted: 6/9/2008 7:24:58 AM
Sounds like it was her way out. I'm sure she has been on many more online dates before and after yours even with that line... But I have a hunch you haven't been the first or last to hear the line. I agree with with some of the others here... Yes you may have been attracted to her but that doesn't mean it is working for her.

She maybe she could have come up with a better way out line and not been so shitty. But honestly someone that can't find a nicer way to say something their feeling you probably dont want to waste your time on. Hang in there and just keep moving... Someone is out there.

Funny thing is after she used that line does she still have a online profile here? If she does then you can she the caliber person she is hahaha
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