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 bob0colo

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Posted: 5/2/2008 12:36:26 PM
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Automatic denial for a transplant in a state where it s legal to use marijuana.

If a alcoholic stops drinking for 60 days they can get a liver transplant....






Medical marijuana user who was denied liver transplant dies
Authorized medical marijuana user dies after being denied liver transplant in Seattle
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May 02, 2008 13:05 EST

A man who was denied a liver transplant largely because he used marijuana with medical approval to ease the symptoms of hepatitis C has died.

Timothy Garon, 56, died Thursday at Bailey-Boushay House, an intensive care nursing center, said his lawyer, Douglas Hiatt, and Alisha Mark, a spokeswoman for Virginia Mason Medical Center, which operates Bailey-Boushay.

His death came a week after a doctor told him a University of Washington Medical Center committee had again denied him a spot on the liver transplant list. The team had previously told him it would not consider placing him on the list until he completed a 60-day drug-treatment class.

The case highlights an ethical consideration for those allocating organs for transplant: whether using dope with a doctor's blessing should be held against a dying patient in need of a transplant.
The Virginia-based United Network for Organ Sharing, which oversees the nation's transplant system, leaves it to individual hospitals to develop criteria for transplant candidates.

At some, people who use "illicit substances" — including medical marijuana, even in the dozen states that allow it — are automatically rejected. At others, patients are given a chance to reapply if they stay clean for six months. Marijuana is illegal under federal law.

Dr. Brad Roter, who authorized Garon to smoke pot to alleviate nausea and abdominal pain and to stimulate his appetite, said he did not know it would be such a hurdle if Garon were to need a transplant.
Garon told The Associated Press last week he believed he contracted hepatitis C by sharing needles with "speed freaks" as a teenager. In recent years, he said, pot was been the only drug he used.
(This version corrects he was denied transplant largely because he used marijuana, and that doctor did not give a reason for denial.)
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 get_mad_baby

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Posted: 5/2/2008 12:54:28 PM
Misleading headline alert

Man dies because of hospital refusing to operate.

Marijuana is safer than tea and coffee.
 shieldvulf

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Posted: 5/2/2008 1:03:11 PM
I think it may be a clever/ironic headline.

My favorite, recent headline that seems to say something different from the story - and I'm not making this up:

Donny and Marie Osmond Signed To Do Las Vegas Strip Show

I have to say, I enjoyed that one more. But I don't think OPie misleads us. I think he attracts our interest and then tells us right away what's what.

Discuss!
 FireKnight

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Posted: 5/2/2008 1:09:44 PM

Marijuana is safer than tea and coffee.
No actually its not. Nothing consumed via smoke is safe. Unless you're going to tell me you mostly consume tea or coffee via smoking it your outa luck.
 bob0colo

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Posted: 5/2/2008 1:18:26 PM

Nothing consumed via smoke is safe.



Man dies as result of Medical Marijuana Use..... This guy smoked pot and he died because he smoked pot....
 ciaobaby71

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Posted: 5/2/2008 1:28:41 PM
I'm sure he caught Hep C cause he smoke weed too, right?
 V-5

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Posted: 5/2/2008 1:49:32 PM

No actually its not. Nothing consumed via smoke is safe. Unless you're going to tell me you mostly consume tea or coffee via smoking it your outa luck.
marijuana is not always smoked, and when consumed it isn't dangerous unless you're going to tell me you mostly consume your brownies via smoking "your" outa luck
 Beaugrand®™©

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Posted: 5/2/2008 6:02:12 PM
Marijuana is illegal because Du Pont, Randolph Hearst, and Andrew Mellon lobbied to have it banned in 1937, because it threatened their monopolies in timber and petroleum (factual basis for many of those crackpot "suppressed invention" theories). It further serves law enforcement as a tool to suppress minorities and the working poor.

The headline is intentionally misleading. In actual fact he died of liver failure, death likely hastened by being denied a transplant. The first rule of medicine is "Do No Harm." Apparently, someone broke it. Time for a medical ethics review.
 scorpiomover

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Posted: 5/2/2008 8:52:53 PM

This guy smoked pot and he died because he smoked pot....
This guy smoked pot and died because doctors refused to treat pot-smokers.

The reasons that doctors refuse to give healthy livers to alcoholics, is that it is a waste of time. The famous soccer star, George Best, took 20 years of hard drinking to destroy his liver. He got a liver transplant, and kept drinking. In only 2-3 years, the new liver was destroyed as well. So doctors refused to give him a second transplant. Even his wife left him, for destroying his second chance at life. If doctors could show that smoking pot would destroy your liver, then it would have been fair to deny him a translplant. AFAIK, pot smokers have no worse livers than anyone else.

Besides, he was prescribed pot by his doctor. If it was going to harm his liver, then the doctor would never have prescribed it.

The article makes it very clear WHY they denied him a liver:
The team had previously told him it would not consider placing him on the list until he completed a 60-day drug-treatment class.
The team didn't deny him a liver because of any possible liver damage. They wanted him to go into therapy. As far as they were concerned, he was a junkie, and it didn't matter that his doctor prescribed him an illegal drug.

This would be no different than if someone was denied treatment for a GSW, because another doctor gave him morphine for the pain, unless he attended a 60-day rehab for morphine addiction.

You just wait. This will happen.
 Ryan_guitarist

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Posted: 5/2/2008 9:08:10 PM
Gotta love crazy health care.
 Jana60

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Posted: 5/3/2008 8:08:21 AM
As a physician, I agree that it is sad that they would deny a patient treatment because of smoking marijuana. I am aware that most programs for Tx of Hep C will deny Txing the patients if they have used any alcohol or other illegal drugs within the past 6 months but only if the substance was not prescribed by a physician. After all, Why waste a perfectly good liver on someone who is going to kill themselves with drugs and alcohol. This is true of marijuana also when smoked. Smoking cigarettes typically takes many years to cause chronic lung disease. Smoking marijuana regularly can do this in as little as two years! If the person agrees to stop smoking BOTH, I don't see a problem.

I would have the following questions regarding this case:

#1) If the patients marijuana was legally prescribed by a doctor (not just obtained off the street or internet) then why was it considered a problem. Maybe he had lung disease due to the marijauna and so did not qualify for organ transplant for this reason.
#2) Why didn't the doctor simply prescribe Marinol tablets (purified pill form of marijuana and a legal Class II drug in every state) for the patient. This supplies the active ingredient, avoids lung damage, and has all the benificial effects on nausea and appetite.
#3) When told he needed to stop smoking marijuana in order to qualify for Tx or transplant, why didn't he STOP! Hepatitis C takes many, many years to cause liver failure and death. I am sure that the patient had been told many times that he would have to stop smoking it to qualify for tx with interferon or to qualify for transplant. So regardless of his personal opinion, WHY NOT STOP!

I have had hundreds of patients over the years try to tell me that the reason they keep drinking, using cocaine, smoking marijauna, ect....is because the mean ol doctors won't order the narcotic pain medicine they really need and so are using these substances for "pain". Yet review of their records frequently reveals that even while they were being prescribed large numbers of narcotics for their chronic "pain" they were still testing positive on drug screens for all of these other substances. It is frequently the case that the doctor prescribing the narcotics quit doing so BECAUSE OF THE PATIENTS ILLEGAL DRUG USE or because the patient was taking more than the prescribed amount. Addicts are by definition manipulative. You can't always believe what they say. Lets face it, a leading cause of Hep C is sharing needles for IV drug abuse so is it surprising that a large percentage of the patient population ARE or have previously been addicts?

I SUSPECT THERE IS MORE TO THE STORY THAN WAS REPORTED.
 spumoni spinoza

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Posted: 5/3/2008 8:24:04 AM
They have vaporizers now that renders the THC into harmless vapor. It's really cool.
I think there should be rehab for Starbucks junkies, chronic gum chewers and people who poot in elevators...
Actually, no one is entitled to any sort of transplant. It just prolongs what was wrong in the first place. Why drag it out? Make more room for the next generation.
BTW/ if u got $$$, you can get any body part. I can't wait for cloning our own!!!
 welderwantedthis

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Posted: 5/3/2008 8:37:26 AM
That's sad and it's a shame honestly.

I'm a 'pro-smoker' BUT I will say to those that say pot is safer than tea....smoking a joint is equivalent to smoking 5 cigarettes. So, it's really not all that great for your lungs.

~Welder's Girl~
 dancecard

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Posted: 5/3/2008 8:45:16 AM
well all the bs aside

a patient was denied services for his habits /lifestyle

it is ~ what it is . ~

Tabacoo smokers are up against this same mindset. ~

at any given time can be denied ~ and if the ability to pay for the services

is questionable ~ it seems to bring out the rightiousness in doctors /hospitals and their duty to make such calls. ~

I've been aware of the tend for some years now ~ I feel it will only get more apparent as time go on and the insurance companies tighten their chock hold. ~dance
 spumoni spinoza

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Posted: 5/3/2008 8:47:28 AM
Ummm, what about the vaporizer?
 bren1954

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Posted: 5/3/2008 8:58:03 AM
To the doctor and her opinion. I would really like you to wear someone's shoes, who is in chronic pain, cannot digest food for throwing up, and see how it affects your quality of life. Or your child or loved one. I pity the patients in your care, where you judge their lives based on your level of academic expertise.
Maybe you need to have a desease and feel their pain, to generate some compassion. He left a family, I presume, siblings, parents, spouse, maybe. I'm sure your "qualified opinion" is helping them with thier loss. You don't even know that patients history. And I';m sure his doctor has reasons for prescribing it. And ingesting the drug, doesn't give the same relief. Talk to oncologists and maybe get their oponion on the subject. Just because you are a physician, doesn't make you God!
But, I forgot, you are entitled to your opinion, the only difference between us, is that you have the authority to relieve someone's pain, and I don't.
 ~Mrs.Wabbit~

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Posted: 5/3/2008 9:14:57 AM
An interesting debate, yet to me it seems quite easy to analayze this scenario.

I need a liver transplant, to qualify for such I must for 60 days abstain from alcohol or drug use whether prescribed or not if I wish to be placed on a donor list. Yes, I do have HEP C which I am using this marijuana for, but if I don't abstain it is quite clear I am going to die for I will not be placed on this waiting list.

So do I continue my pot usage because it helps me with my illness...... OR do I say I need a liver transplant so I must stop using because I know and have been told I must stop, so that I am elligible to receive a new liver?

I think my answer would clearly be, I want to live, so I deal with the pain while I leave the pot behind, and I get myself on this waiting list.

The deceased in this scenario most definitely knew his options , he chose to die in my opinion which is sad.
 spumoni spinoza

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Posted: 5/3/2008 9:20:52 AM
I agree to that, and doctors recommend stopping all alcohol and tobacco usage.
I feel that diet plays a part as well. Also, the patient must cease all fatty foods, high salt intake, and exercise as much as they are able. Then get in touch with their creator, and make peace. Then a transplant should be made available, but no one would qualify.
 bf109 Emil

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Posted: 5/3/2008 9:39:10 AM
Did anyone post where he had gotten his medicinal marijuana?? The stronger or higher THC is usually from clippings from female plant...grown hydroponic ally. For the plant to get nutrients to grow, huge amount of nitrogen, growth hormones, fertilizers are added to the water which these plants grow in...now if this grower had a case of mites...which is frequent...then one can assume pesticides where also applied and absorbed into the plant...The day of safer then tea as posted previously is long gone...as customers demand stronger and more potent strains of marijuana drug (THC)...this isn't grown in a field organically as vegetables found in a supermarket are...If the THC is required to use for medicinal purposes...why does the governing body prescribe straight THC...or in street terms...hash oil, or oil...very easy to extract...prevent smoking the plant, which has absorbed chemical/pesticides for it's 8 week growing peeriod...and the medicinal effects can still be obtained...smoking the plant would kill anybody after time with todays additives being used...
 bohemianjack

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Posted: 5/3/2008 10:20:36 AM

Man dies as result of Medical Marijuana Use..... This guy smoked pot and he died because he smoked pot....

The big mainstream media spins the truth into soundbites and elaborates producing disinformation

Marijuana is safer than tea and coffee.

Then the phishy philosophers make flip comments that can be played into the media spin.

This is true of marijuana also when smoked. Smoking cigarettes typically takes many years to cause chronic lung disease. Smoking marijuana regularly can do this in as little as two years! If the person agrees to stop smoking BOTH, I don't see a problem.

What the h*ll does this have to do with the man's liver desease...

Beyond this the "regulations" allow patented pharmaceutical drugs, if they worked even if they weren't throwing them up or causing other side effects. Maybe this and maybe that... where's your compassion? Get a grip doc... aren't you supposed to be on the do no harm side... or maybe you're just another corporate shill spreading disinformation.

I SUSPECT THERE IS MORE TO THE STORY THAN WAS REPORTED.

There's always more to the story than is reported in the mainstream media... They're making the big money off of the chemical and pharmaceutical laced world we live in.

The big drug, food, insurance and hospital corporations corporations have their shills in journalism to villify anything that competes against patented chemical drugs and food additives, because it's big money... and most of congress that craft the laws are on the take. The shills write storys slanted toward the views of their advertizers... vitamins, minerals, nutritional supplements and anything natural that can't be patented is reported negative and patented drugs and chemical additives are reported as safe even when they are maiming and killing thousands of people, but there's millions of sheeple who believe the lies willing to continue using the patented drugs and chemicals and the big money continues to roll in.

And tobacco in most cigarettes is altered with chemicals that makes it even more dangerous, but there is hardly a word mentioned in the mainstream media about the chemicals... it's only tobacco. Do a little research "chemicals additives cigarettes" and see what you find... sure there's alot of misinformation and disinformation on everything. Doctors were paid to lie about that too.

It's all about the money... why do you think we started seeing advertizing for Winston cigarettes as additive free.

To the doctor and her opinion. I would really like you to wear someone's shoes, who is in chronic pain, cannot digest food for throwing up, and see how it affects your quality of life. Or your child or loved one. I pity the patients in your care, where you judge their lives based on your level of academic expertise.

I'll second that opinion on this doctor's... oh, I mean physician's keyboard judgement of this case. She won't believe until she is SCREAMING in pain.

But, I forgot, you are entitled to your opinion, the only difference between us, is that you have the authority to relieve someone's pain, and I don't.

But then you can prescribe yourself some marijuana when the patented oxycotin makes you puke or constipated and blow out your colon!

I agree to that, and doctors recommend stopping all alcohol and tobacco usage.
I feel that diet plays a part as well. Also, the patient must cease all fatty foods, high salt intake, and exercise as much as they are able. Then get in touch with their creator, and make peace. Then a transplant should be made available, but no one would qualify.

But the FDA and the USDA will not allow us to know the truth about any of this much less stop the corporations from adding dangerous drugs and chemicals to our food supply... they will only stop us from using something theraputically that grows naturally and can't make BILLIONS for corporations.

The headline is intentionally misleading. In actual fact he died of liver failure, death likely hastened by being denied a transplant. The first rule of medicine is "Do No Harm." Apparently, someone broke it. Time for a medical ethics review.

Read what Beaugrand®™© says... he's pretty good about picking the flysh*t out the pepper.

Kicks away the soap box... I'm done here. I'm going out to plant my...











trees.

Blessings and peace to Timothy Garon, his family and everyone who is compassionate to them.

Bohemianjack

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 h0ldfast

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Posted: 5/3/2008 11:03:26 AM

It further serves law enforcement as a tool to suppress minorities and the working poor.

Policemen uphold the law; they don't write the law. Please don't blame law enforcement for decisions made by the legislative and judicial branches of the government.
 Jana60

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To the doctor and her opinion. I would really like you to wear someone's shoes, who is in chronic pain, cannot digest food for throwing up, and see how it affects your quality of life. Or your child or loved one. I pity the patients in your care, where you judge their lives based on your level of academic expertise. Maybe you need to have a desease and feel their pain, to generate some compassion. He left a family, I presume, siblings, parents, spouse, maybe. I'm sure your "qualified opinion" is helping them with thier loss. You don't even know that patients history. And I';m sure his doctor has reasons for prescribing it. And ingesting the drug, doesn't give the same relief. Talk to oncologists and maybe get their oponion on the subject. Just because you are a physician, doesn't make you God!
But, I forgot, you are entitled to your opinion, the only difference between us, is that you have the authority to relieve someone's pain, and I don't.


Before you go any further with your personal attack, you might observe that I stated that the patient should still be on the transplant list if all other criteria were met. I admit I am judging the case with incomplete information as is everyone who has responded to this thread. The difference is that I am at least minimally familiar with the rules and recommendations governing the transplant lists and the reasons for these rules.

Keep in mind, compassion for one person sometimes ends up punishing another. Unlike kidneys, liver transplants are not done with live donors. This means that someone must die before a liver becomes available to be transplanted. When choosing who will get that precious organ, factors must be considered that you otherwise would not wish to consider. If you have hundreds of people waiting for that one organ, are you going to give it to the child who experienced liver failure from Reys Syndrome during the Chicken Pox and is otherwise healthy, medically compliant with no conditions which would destroy the new liver? Or do you give it to a man who may very well end up killing himself with drugs anyway. Even if he does not kill himself and the new liver with drugs, the lifestyle of an organ transplant recipient is a difficult and painful one. He would be required to take immunosuppressive drugs for the rest of his life which will cause lots of painful side effects. His compliance with medical recommendations must be above reproach! He can't just say, I don't want to take that drug because I have this or that symptom. After all, he refused to stop smoking pot inorder to get on the list. What reason do we have to suppose he will follow the doctors recommendations better after surgery?

Bottom line, I do have compassion for the man and his pain but not enough to kill another patient who is a better candidate for the transplant by supporting a candidate who would not benefit from it.

 shieldvulf

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Posted: 5/3/2008 2:02:35 PM
Thank you, Bo-jack! You make screaming Mimi, heebie-jeebie paranoia fun again!

It's too much funny, isn't it? Our mysterious corporate overlords want to maximize their profits by killing off their customers! Holy crap! That is some complicated financial planning!

About the present case? The doctor and others are quite correct. We don't know all the facts. All I've learned from this thread is that hatin' is not a skill, but more of a nervous seizure. And that it's a bit less funny that grandiose fantasies of Master Plans and "I'm the only one who sees the TRUTH!" Now those are comedy!

Cheers!

Vulf
 bob0colo

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Posted: 5/3/2008 3:11:53 PM
The rest of the story.... The title on this post has a problem...
(MPD ... Multiple personality disorder) or MND... Multiple name disorder...


I think it offends the Pot Heads...........

This man died because he smoked pot.......

The hospital didn't like a pot activist...........
I bet they like Big Pharma ... the companies that let Hospitals get a kick back for main lining the preferred no-generic drug...




Is medical-marijuana use reason to deny someone an organ transplant?

By Seattle Times staff and The Associated Press
The death this week of a musician who said he was denied a liver transplant because of his medical-marijuana use has highlighted a new ethical consideration: Should pot use with a doctor's blessing be held against a dying patient who needs an organ transplant?

Timothy Garon, 56, used marijuana to ease the symptoms of advanced hepatitis C. Dr. Brad Roter, the physician who authorized Garon to smoke pot to alleviate nausea and abdominal pain and to stimulate his appetite — a use authorized under a Washington state law approved by voters in 1998 — said he had not known it would be such a hurdle if Garon were to need a transplant.

Garon died Thursday, one week after he said he learned from his doctor that a University of Washington Medical Center committee had again denied him a spot on the liver-transplant list.

"He said I'm going to die, with such conviction," Garon said then. "I'm not angry, I'm not mad, I'm just confused."

His death at Bailey-Boushay House, an intensive-care nursing center, was confirmed Friday by his lawyer, Douglas Hiatt, and Alisha Mark, a spokeswoman for Virginia Mason Medical Center, which operates Bailey-Boushay.

Garon, lead singer for Nearly Dan, a Steely Dan cover band, believed he contracted hepatitis by sharing needles with "speed freaks" as a teenager. In recent years, he said, pot had been the only drug he'd used. In December, he was arrested for growing marijuana.

The UW Medical Center declined to talk about Garon's case specifically, but released a statement saying: "Although medical marijuana may be an issue in rare cases, it is never the sole determinant in arriving at medical decisions about candidates for organ transplants, and whether a patient is listed. Patients with a reasonable chance of survival and a good outcome, given a variety of factors, are listed."

The statement also noted that there are about 98,000 patients waiting for organs in the United States and only 6,000 donors available.

Hiatt said Friday that UW was being "completely disingenuous" about the transplant denial: "They denied him because of medical-marijuana use," he said. "They have a shortage of organs, and they're using moral judgments to decide who gets one."

Garon had been in the hospice for two months. His doctor at Harborview Medical Center told him she wouldn't put in his paperwork for transplant consideration at UW until he avoided pot for six months, Hiatt said. The university soon offered to reconsider if he enrolled in a 60-day drug-treatment program, but his liver disease was too advanced by then for him to last that long, doctors told him. The university-hospital committee agreed to reconsider its decision, then denied him again.

Because of the scarcity of donated organs, transplant committees such as the one at the UW Medical Center have tough standards for deciding who should get them. Does a candidate have other serious health problems? Will he or she religiously take anti-rejection medicines? Is there good family support? Is the candidate likely to drink or do drugs? And what about medical marijuana authorized by a doctor?

"Most transplant centers struggle with issues of how to deal with people who are known to use marijuana, whether or not it's with a doctor's prescription," said Dr. Robert Sade, director of the Institute of Human Values in Health Care at the Medical University of South Carolina. "Marijuana, unlike alcohol, has no direct effect on the liver. It is, however, a concern ... in that it's a potential indicator of an addictive personality."

Garon's girlfriend, Leisa Bueno, of Olympia, said Garon had not used other drugs or alcohol since he was diagnosed with hepatitis in 2001.

The Virginia-based United Network for Organ Sharing, which oversees the nation's transplant system, leaves it to individual hospitals to develop criteria for transplant candidates. At some, people who use "illicit substances" — including medical marijuana, even in states that allow it — are rejected automatically.

At others, such as the UCLA Medical Center, patients are given a chance to reapply if they stay clean for six months. Marijuana use is illegal under federal law.

Typically, doctors don't realize that authorizing marijuana use for nausea or other disease complications may jeopardize their patient's chance for a transplant, said Peggy Stewart, a clinical social worker on the liver-transplant team at UCLA who has researched the issue.

"There needs to be some kind of national eligibility criteria so that everyone will know what the rules are," Stewart said.

The patients "are trusting their physician to do the right thing. The physician prescribes marijuana, they take the marijuana, and they are shocked that this is now the end result."

No one tracks how many patients are denied transplants over medical-marijuana use. Pro-marijuana groups have cited a handful of cases, including at least two patient deaths, in Oregon and California, since the mid- to late 1990s, when states began adopting medical-marijuana laws.

Another Seattle-area patient, Jonathan Simchen, 33, of Fife, Pierce County, said he was rejected as a kidney-transplant candidate at Virginia Mason and told by the UW that he will not be listed until he abstains from pot for six months.

Simchen said he uses marijuana to control his blood pressure and to stimulate his appetite, which is disrupted by dialysis.

Many doctors agree that using marijuana — smoking it, especially — is out of the question post-transplant. The drugs patients take to help their bodies accept a new organ increase the risk of aspergillosis, a frequently fatal infection caused by a common mold found in marijuana and tobacco.

Seattle Times staff reporter Carol M. Ostrom contributed to this report.
 Sky at sunset

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Posted: 5/3/2008 4:17:25 PM
Anyway you look at it - the chap only had to stay off smoking MJ to get on the list. Very, very sad. There are other options to try and I'm sure his Dr would have been happy to work with him.

I really don't understand why he would chose to die.
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