| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/6/2008 9:40:09 PM | Ok, so it's not about my ass :)
I want my profile to be true to me, and I want to attract the more outgoing woman. I'm in San Diego, but was call it "Man Diego" because there are FAR FAR more men than women here, especially near my age group.
The few available women here tend to be serial daters, meaning they date hundreds of men a year to get the free food and attention. Many have been on the dating sites continuously for over 10 years. My profile has to screen the serial daters out - I want only those who like men and want to date, not just the 'next meal' girls.
So.... what do you folks think? I'm I close to pulling it off?
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/6/2008 9:52:11 PM | You know, you started off well, kept it light and funny, but then this...undertone crept in. I'll show you where I started getting the "uh-oh" vibe:
But you can do this, I have faith in you. When we meet, show up with your “A” game strategy. You probably don’t like my profile, so go ahead and try to ‘put me in my place’. Wear something that shows me you’re a strong, confident woman, not afraid to attempt to divert my attention with her femininity. God gave you cleavage and a Victoria's Secret credit card for a reason!
A playful challenge is one thing but this crosses the line to condescension and aggression. Do not pass go, do not continue to read further. Profile owner has issues. I'd remove that paragraph.
Oh, and one thing about my neck - it's got a dolphin fin on it, with a blue tribal ocean wave. No need to **** to me about tattoos, it's there, I like, and it's staying. If you insist on giving me a hicky, this is the place to do it.
Same with the "No need to b!tch (I presume that's the word you meant) to me about tattooes..." line, axe it. Everyone can see you have a tattoo, and most people by now know they're pretty hard to remove.
BTW, three pics of you with your arms around other women (even if their faces are smeared out)? That's three pics *too many*. Ditch them and get more of just yourself. | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/7/2008 1:17:09 AM | I agree with above post.
The removal of some of those photos should be a no~brainer.
Actually you have a bit of humor in there, which was nice, but the arrogant, macho pompous... fella... came out and took over. Not a good thing as you will find that there is a great deal of competition on here, and most ladies will hit the back button.
You stated that you wanted to weed out the 'next meal' women, well the image that you have provided us with so far may weed out much more than that.
Good luck | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/14/2008 11:57:50 AM | I've read from the gurus that research online dating results that say women are LESS likely to respond to ads where men have no other women in the photos, so the first were to satisfy that requirement. High self esteem women hate 'loners' (they want 'pre-selected men') and they prefer to compete. The "main" photos get stretched horizontally if they're not wide, and the only good very recent photo is of me with the 2 girls, so my only choice on that pic is to look like I'm 500 pounds or include the girls. Of course the other issue is I'm usually taking the photos, so I don't have many that don't include other people.
I've edited my profile a bit based on the 2 comments posted here, thank's y'all! | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/14/2008 12:03:31 PM |
I've read from the gurus that research online dating results that say women are LESS likely to respond to ads where men have no other women in the photos.
I call bullsh*t. Cite your source. | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/14/2008 12:10:14 PM |
High self esteem women hate 'loners' (they want 'pre-selected men') and they prefer to compete.
I would like to call this one too. It is complete and utter rubbish. | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/14/2008 9:25:33 PM | Wiki, general discussion of the concept:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_proof
http://changingminds.org/explanations/theories/informational_social_influence.htm
Applied to dating:
http://www.pickupguide.com/socprf.htm
http://www.bristollair.com/inner-game/understanding/social-proof.html
http://www.therelationshipgym.com/newsletters/social-proof.htm
http://www.content4reprint.com/relationships/why-does-social-proof-attract-women.htm
http://mystery-method-blog.com/pickupartist/pick-up-artists
http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/fswiki.cgi?Social_Proof
http://www.clipclip.org/Profunk/clips/detail/14042
As yes, DeAngelo and ALL of the others (Mystery, RSD, Jeffries) who study evolutional psychology as applied to modern dating strongly urge social proofing.
There are 2 web sites that are extremely lame/useless, but are the most popular in the world because they are simply a means of social proofing. They are MySpace and FaceBook. Perhaps you've heard of them.
Looks like a few people owe me an apology :) | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/14/2008 9:34:09 PM | DeAngelo is your source? Keee-rist. Then I was right, it IS bullshit.
I suggest going to get your funky sociologically-experimental groove on with the dumbasses at facebook and MySpace. Watch it, though -- they're making sure high school age and younger kids aren't talking to guys your age anymore.
So much for "proof."  | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/14/2008 9:43:18 PM | I'm going to expose the ACTUAL psychology behind these so called theories, as I'm fortunate enough to understand who this sort of "shit" actually works, being that I've been a psych major for what seems like F-O-R-E-V-E-R. They tell you that in order to get noticed more on these sites you should have more women on your arms. Now, chances are you came to their site because you have trouble with women or with a certain aspect of the game. By telling you this they have "evolved" your line of thinking to believe you need to become more aggressive and become one with your****/funny unself. So you subscribe to their bullshit player manuals and dvd's so that you can have the opportunity of being photographed with beautiful women and then you can go on these sites and post your pictures to attract the women. But by that time you've either weeded out the online dating process because their pick-up systems have worked, but the likelihood is that you are here with the same old game but some new lines and angles, and a couple pictures of you with some eye candy on your arm. The only problem is when you open your mouth they still see a douche. THIS is evolutionary psychology at it's finest, when crafted by the marketing geniuses behind these pick-up and attraction programs. Capiche?
VVV Ursula had a photo posted up until about two weeks ago when she changed her name. I'm sure she had her reasons but they likely aren't what you are thinking.
And in terms of Deangelo or Jeffreys (my own bloody name and I am unsure of how his is spelled!) they breed player attitudes. They craft pick-up artists, not confident men. | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/14/2008 9:43:24 PM | Wow... you have to be one of the most negative people I've ever encountered online. You seem to know a lot about stalking children on MySpace -- why is that? Were you kicked off? Could you show me where I said anything about going for "high school age" kids, or did YOUR fantasy just slip out?
DeAngelo is one of the most respected guys in the business, who the hell are you to criticize him? Oh... that's right, you're a person who's too ashamed to post her own photo but likes to go online to criticize others who do. Yes, that makes you quite the authority. | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/14/2008 9:59:18 PM | deuce98 -
Wow... yet another person with fouled logic.
1) I follow the social dymanic studies because they are interesting and have fully explained to me how I got to date some of the great women in my life... so your assumption that I did it because I had no women was false.
2) The faces are BLURRED on the women in the main photo even though they are very good looking because the point of the photo is to show a recent photo of ME, not my "arm candy" as you put it. Your post makes no sense when the girls are BLURRED, sheesh!
3) I have TONS of photos of me with women - some friends, some former girlfriends, even celebrities... I don't have to join any program for a photo op. What a dumb accusation. The 2 girls in the main photo I've known for years. Oh, and by they way, they FULLY support me doing pickup, and often go out with me as wingwomen.
4) You are correct in that I'm putting little effort into online dating because I do more 'real life' approaches (as taught in social dynamics) and that has been successful. This is the only site I'm on, and that's just because it's free.
5) You sound jealous of the guys who have made a great living by teaching social dynamics and pickup - even though you've studied the same subject 'forever' and it hasn't worked for you. Mystery's getting 10 students per weekend at $4,000/ea. , and has women all over him while he's doing it. Maybe you can talk to a therapist about that? | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/14/2008 10:17:43 PM | I never said you may have looked at this information because you couldn't get women. But this is the general consensus with most of their subscribers. I have read many of the books out of interest also this past year and I've got to give it to them they do a bang up job. It's all common sense and nothing out of the ordinary but it's the little things that men miss because of nerves or social phobias or whatnot that really make the critical difference. They are getting rich based upon people's inability to focus, and not because they provide an invaluable service laden with information that's cutting edge.
As for 2), see above.
Again, 3), see top.
I never said I studied evolutionary psychology forever, and I said it FEELS like forever. Perhaps you should read a little closer as you seemed to have skimmed most of what I wrote previously. Four years in this major alone has seemed like an eternity to me, but it is a second degree in the same field so that has all to do with why it's been on for so long. There's no jealousy on my end. There's a little envy due to the fact that I didn't come up with the idea to market something like this first, but then again I wish I'd generated the idea for the Ipod or Windows or the hybrid motor technology. Such is life though, right?! I need not talk to anyone, as I far from lack in the dating department. I'm the skid that most guys see with some hotty and say "WTF, what does she see in that guy?!". My girlfriend is sensational, and not just in my eyes. But none of my dating success is due to any of their programs. I made the mental changes personally years ago while pulling through a failing marriage. I don't believe they actually change the way people think and feel about themselves. They just provide their clients with a self-pat on the back when they realize some potential and are able to talk to women like they couldn't before. But these clients generally revert back to their unconfident selves in time and have to continue reading the books. It's much like chiropractors and massage therapists... they never truly fix a problem; you just get a quick fix and then when it starts feeling back you go back for more. Indefinitely. Welcome to Attraction 101. | |
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| Hey - does this profile make my ass look fat?
Posted: 5/15/2008 10:55:56 AM | It's both amusing and ridiculous how quickly this thread degenerated into something useless and foolish.
Having said that, Message 2 is perfect advice. Follow it.
(And about San Diego being Man Diego, concur! We need a plague or something to thin the herd.) | |
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