| What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/18/2004 11:49:10 PM | Penalties for Rapists and Child Molestors vary from state to state, but are not strict enough by far in my opinion. The different punishments like chemical and physical casteration are ineffective according to experts because the act is not one of sexual desire, but one of power and control. Short jail sentences allow these monster to either find new victims, or in some cases even revictimize their previous victims within several years.
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| Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 11:03:08 AM | If I was a mean person I say burn them...
But since I am not - take it away for which they stole.
Rapist who go to prison - very likely get out to do the same again.
Molestors do the same - or try not to - but still want to be near children.
Now they must be registered once they have been convicted - and some have been accused. But look at those who get accused and never go to trial.
There are medications for these people too - but look at where it gets them once they get off or do not take them - back to doing what they want.
So I say take it away - penis or whatever - just chop it off let them feel the pain - then send them to someone who has created a drug that takes away sexual urges forever.
nuff said | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 11:23:09 AM | first off they shoulnd be allowed to practice as a priest again - hehe
i think they should just get life in prison..everything they did to there victims they will get it in the end (no pun intended) in prison.. | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 11:26:35 AM | | it is known that molestors are raped in prison - but not a higher rate of rapist are raped in prison ... but life in prison - no they wont give that to them - but put some fire under the representatives in your area - yah never know... | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 12:03:52 PM | agree to a point ex - if you lobby you can get things done but first you have to pick a rep. that has this somewhere on their agenda - or better yet find an old rep. that use to have this as one of their priorities but changed his way of thinking ...
i know of many convictions because during none election year - but that was likely because they were looking for the off season vote for what was coming up in the next couple years...
mayors- and governors do it all the time ... in the US | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 4:05:47 PM | an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure...
the #1 thing that people do immediately before commiting a sex crime is to watch porn. I believe that we are have increasingly larger numbers of sex crimes in this country, and that this overlaps with a plummeting of societal values about sexual activity. What I think we need is for this country to start having a more stable and responsible set of values.
I know that these crimes cannot be eliminated completely, but I'd rather see it prevented, than having the women and children raped, and (otherwise good?) people put through horrible punishment.
Solution? Outlaw all the "Adult Video" stores, outlaw internet porn sites, and do everything possible to drive this abomnible industry into the ground. No more strip clubs, no more nudie mags.
I say we should build a building with lots of plexiglass windows, and put the rapists and child molesters in there, in stocks and chains, naked, and flog/whip/cane them. And let everyone see (except the children). | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 5:03:30 PM | | MasterBart- I volunteered at a Rape Crisis Center, and went through extensive training, there is no evidence to support your assertion that "the #1 thing that people do immediately before committing a sex crime is to watch porn." Unless you can provide a soucre for that. Rape is not about sex, but control and humiliation. | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 5:24:11 PM | Well folks let me just weigh in here with this idea. This was an area that I studied in U, I wrote a term paper on pedephelia. While researching my paper I made several stunning discoveries that made me wonder why society has this knowlege and yet uses it for nothing.
1, 1 in every 10 men is a pedaphile, interpetation for thos of you unfamiliar with statistical references: put any 10 men in a room, one of them is a pedaphile. Walk in a room of 100 men, there are 10 pedaphiles present.
2, Both crimes are based on power and control, not sex,if you remove their sex drive, these men are likely to still get a rush from commiting a bastardized form of the crime. Sad but true.
3, Men visit brothels and solicit prostitutes for these same reasons.
4, Porn is a major contributing factor in these crimes as it obejectualizes (sp) women/children. Therefore presenting them sheerly as something to have sex with or as you will to be a vessel for male semen.
5, Men commiting these crimes know they are hurting the person and derive a great deal of satisfaction from it.
6, Most sexual predators come from a home where there was abuse, a serious problem in the mother/ father relationship, were likely the victim of a sexual predator themselves.
7, Pedaphilia runs down the family lines, and there is a link between education and sexual deviancy. IE the higher one is educated the less likely they are to be a predator, this does not always pass the litmus test , but I am only sharing with you what I have learned.
So, we have the information how do we use it, an attempt has been made in schools these days by teaching kids respect for themselves, their bodies, and others, combined with the good touch bad touch program. This by itself is in-effective. I believe that if we educate the men who statsitically speaking are more likely than woman to offend. The education needs to be blunt and practical and victim based. If we begin teach early in the formative years that woman are not just sexual creatures, and as they grow develop turn the lesson into one based on the true value of woman, lesson the tabus about the naked human form, we would see a decline in the number of these crimes.
I also agree with Bart the porn industry has added to the morale decay of society and contributes a great deal to rapes and other sex based predatorial crimes.
Anyway, I just wanted to share with you all what I know, and what I think, which is basically stop the crime before it starts. | |
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 7:43:27 PM | | I wanted to add, that in a prison the rapist and child molesters are considered the lowest form of life at the prison. Even a murderer has more respect with the other cons and the guards then do the sex criminals. They get beat and even murdered by the other cons at a higher rate then anyone else. Some prisons seperate the sex criminals because of these problems. | |
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yna6
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Joined: 5/2/2004
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| Re: Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/19/2004 8:21:54 PM | It's such a hot button issue for me because I work with kids.
I hate to think of them becoming a target of some sick (blank) because
our legal system let the (blank) out on good behavior.
And yet that is what we are seeing in my state of CA, and I am sure it
is happening in your states as well.
I am extremely non-violent acting person, but if were to get a hold
of one of these (blanking) monsters.....well....sorry...not nice but hey,
I am being honest.
Also I have two younger cousins and I am think about them
whenever I hear about some (blanking) monster out on some
prisoner release program...an "experimental program" that has been
untested.
My town...as a laboratory for a social experiment.
In California, a rapist or child molestor can be placed back into the county where
they commited the crime....which is sick. | |
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/20/2004 7:46:29 AM | | in my state it seems that there is a push in the juditial system by educated elite, social reformist, and others that these people can be treated for their "sickness" and put back into circulation. these released sex offanders are commiting crimes shortly after release.. Look on the web sex offender data base. this is a list of sex offenders in your area. when i was living at my last house, right accross the alley was a level 3 sex offender. He had grabed an 19 yr old woman from a parking lot at a mall and was taking her to his vehicle when he was caught by security. At this time I had a very hot girlfriend. He would stare at he when she went to her car. Well thank god for the conceal carry gun permits. We went to the range together and taught her how to use, shoot, clean, ect a .45 auto. She got her permit and carried a pistol. One day he came out of his house and stood in the back yard with his armed crossed stairing at her. I came out of my house shortly after my girlfriend and saw him standing thier. I look directly at him and stood thier ready to kick his ass if he did one thing wronge. after about 5 seconds he turned around and went back into the house. Shortly after we move to a new place. Not because of this guy we were moving anyway. Now for all of those who think good people like my ex, who are hard working, honest, americans don't have a right to defend themselves with a firearm, wouldn't you like to defend yourselves if you had that guy like that living right next to you. You don't carry a gun to shoot people, you carry a gun to stop something bad from occuring. over 90% of the time the displaying of the firearm stops the crime without a shot being fired. sorry about getting sidetrack, but if you got a sex offender database in your area you should look at it and some of these guys have commited many offenses. I was looking at one guy he had 21 counts of rape and molestation from ages 2-41 males and females. This guy was only 31 years old and currently missing. that would equate to not even 4 weeks of prison for each offense. I also herd about a guy who was wacking it at kids school grounds. The judge just let him go. no trial or anything just droped the case. in my state they are giving jail sentances of 10-90 days for people caught having no car insurance. I don't think our priorities are right. | |
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/20/2004 1:15:53 PM | | I've experienced it...so there for I think they should get back what they put out and then put them to death. I have such a disgust for people like that. It seems harsh but there is still alot of bitterness there...I get angry when I hear about a child goin' through something like that because of the psychological damage it puts them through later on in life. I guess the number one thing I'm workin' on now is forgiveness....you have to master that before you are able to move on...at least from my stand point. There are days...weeks...months I go on without thinking about it...other times that's all I can think about it. It literally makes me sick to my stomach. The sad part is...I think to some degree some of it is man made..the other part is that they are screwed up in the head. It's really dishearting and makes me just scream on the end side to think that there are children and young women out there..along with some men..that go through it and yet there seems to be nothing we can do to prevent it. People like that should never see the light of day!!!! | |
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alura2
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/20/2004 2:15:03 PM | i have 2 small kids...the thought of soem sick fuk hurting them is beyond comprehention.
id go after him and castrate him...shove his dick down his throat and watch him die.I dotn give a damn if i go to jail..you hurt me or the ones i love ill kill you. | |
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| Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 9/21/2004 9:36:57 AM | | Lock the animals in a cell with a bunch of big guys and let them see how it feels. A child is defenseless, precious, innocent. How could anyone thing of harming them in ANY way? No matter what they did or didn't do to the child, either an extensive time in jail, and I'm talking YEARS, or the death penalty. When they get out of prison or just don't get charged, they go on and do it to a lot of other kids, and then sometimes those kids grow up and do the same thing, not all the time but sometimes. And so the cycle continues, so cut it all off at the beginning. | |
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