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Posted: 5/8/2008 5:58:28 AM | I was reading a book on the history of immigrants in Boston where they discussed the history of the Irish under English rule since the time of Cromwell. When the English bought up Irish land and had them work it, rents were so expensive that the only non-cash, sustenance crop they could grow were potatos. Life was so miserable for the Irish, but a byproduct of the potato that was made was whiskey, which seemed to make life more bearable for some.
So, I got to thinking: was a penchant for whiskey a coping mechanism that worked in those days, i.e. whiskey drinkers tended to cope better with hardship and survived to pass on more people with a penchant for whiskey?
I don't mean to say that the Irish are alcoholics, but the association with alcohol is well-known, at least as a stereotype, here in Boston.
I have heard, also, that for many Jews in Europe the only work they could get was a money lenders, which was considered distasteful for many Europeans, but there is an association we all have with Jews and money. And, especially in America where there was 200 years of slavery, black people are known for their physical prowess ...this small minority dominates most national sports ... so could it be that the slaves who were physically strongest were the ones who tended to survive and adapt to life better, thus pass on those genes?
I know these are all stereotypes and I am not a racist, but there is truth in these, nevertheless.
So my question is: are these real characteristics and do they predominate in these groups because they served them in times past and are a product of breeding vs. being in-born? I dont mean to say that each and every one of these groups has those characteristics, just that enough of them might.
An assumption would be that all people are equal in every way, given similar circumstances, but that the vicissitudes of life, economics, etc. bred people in certain ways? | |
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Posted: 5/8/2008 8:17:16 AM | Most stereotypes have a kernal of truth behind them.
After all we are just animals and can be shaped by the pressure of genetic selection.
As an Irishman , I can tell you that drinking was, and I suppose to some extent still
is a big part of the culture. Im sure it does have something to do with the oppression and poverty the Irish endured under the British.
Its a known anthropological fact that the European Jewish population has a
very high ratio of high IQ's. Theres a reason so many Jews have last names with Gold and Silver. Handling money was the only job they could get. Working with numbers, math. They tended to do better and have more kids than the Jewish guys that were more suited to be farmers or soldiers.
And there has to be some genetic reason for the ridulously high level of violent crime in the American black community. You just dont see that high level of violence
in black populations in other countries. There has to be some connection with the
brutality of slavery. You cant subject a population of people to that kind of savage
brutality and not expect it to have leave lasting and permanent damage.
We are all the product of the people who came before us. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2008 9:30:39 AM |
So my question is: are these real characteristics and do they predominate in these groups because they served them in times past and are a product of breeding vs. being in-born? I dont mean to say that each and every one of these groups has those characteristics, just that enough of them might.
Without stereotyping because there are variety within groups I'd say the answer to your question is a most definate yes. The rates for diabetes among aboriginals is massive whe compared to the rest of the population. This is due a lot to our intolerance to european foods but it also has to do with things like a higher rate of alcohol abuse. It was initially even encouraged as a coping mechanism.
You often here people say things like, "well if they don't like our life style, don't live here". Sometimes its not a matter of like, sometimes its a matter of genetically speaking you are asking the person to harm themselves physically and emotionally to fit in.
I would say the majority of people living in NA of european decent are fairly oblivious to the harm they cause on these groups which cause all the problems that they are complaining about. They think people are just holding on to history. In some cases, this may be true but for the most part, its knowing that its still going on. Racism is a very strong word and I think its more a lack of acceptance of a differences.
But this attitude has a trickle down affect that, to this day, makes people who by law should be equal...not. Whenever you put people in that kind of a situation as a group, you are going to see higher rates of crime, poverty, lack of education, abuse, unemployment, high rates of pregnancy, etc.
To blame the groups (which often happens) is like having control over what someone drinks and only feeding them alcohol then blaming them for being drunk. There are differences and its nothing to be ashamed of. I think to not recognize them causes more problems.
My experience in dealing with natives for example is they will often behave different than non-natives because they have a history of being more communal in their living. The success of the individual isn't prioritized so heavily. So when you consider that then put them in a situation where they no longer have control over that community (because in this case the federal gov't has a lot of that control) you take away their survival mechanisms and are expecting them to change the way they've thought for 100's of years and has been ingrained into they psyche.
Trying to change this hasn't helped them at all but made it a bad situation. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2008 8:00:09 PM | I just want to correct the OP on one point: It wasn't exactly whiskey that was made from the Potato: It was a clear spirit known as Poteen and pronounced Puh Cheen. Havent had any of the stuff myself but some people still make it in some parts.
Regarding African-Americans, you do see that kind of violence in other countries. A lot. Africa is in pieces because of the civil and tribal wars taking place. Instead of tribes America has gangs.
I wouldn't label the Irish as drunks. Other countries have it worse. England for example has serious alcohol issues. But thats what they get for issuing pubs 24-hour licenses.
Oddly enough, nobody views the Dutch as stoners. We leave that honor for Jamaica. And I think Bob was solely responsible for that. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 4:12:34 AM | | phantom_scribbler, I wasnt trying to quibble over what stereotypes are true or not, just asking the question that if some of the group behaviors we have come to see and know are due to some innate qualities or breeding over time as a group experience, ok? | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 8:45:39 AM |
You just dont see that high level of violence in black populations in other countries
Africa is full of high level violence. Most blacks in the New World(South America,etc) can trace their origins to slavery.
Jews loan money not only because it was distasteful to Christians, but like Muslims of today, it was not allowed by the church. Christians loaning money started around the same time as Protestants. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 7:12:40 PM | 1st point is that your suposition is weak due to the frailty faultiness of the concept of "race" or more aptly the system of racial classification most commonly used. most geneticist concur that race as is most commonly used is a social construct based upon poorly founded psuedo science.
2nd given your use of Irish immigrants to the USA the idea of "race" certainly doesn't apply since Irish is a NATiONALITY not "race".
3rd, the "example" of Jewish Europeans is actually inaccurate...false, never go by heresay; that is how most stereotypes are formed and why they are ridiculous and called stereotypes and not fact.
4th...you will notice that African Americans U.S. dominate atheltic arenas but Brazil has the largest African American population in the world. the difference is that Americans in the USA have a much more favorable environment for atheltic development and training on the professional level. African Americans in the US out acheive other Americans at this time due to the fact that they were shut out of many other high paying professions for so long. Athletics became a quick fix to ecconomic security. As Eurpeans in countires where the economy is limited and wealth is poorly distributed come to the US or get opportunity to train for professional atheletics they out achieve european Americans in that area also. Same can be said of Africans from the continent. | |
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Posted: 5/10/2008 7:47:10 AM | I don't know about the Irish. I know lots of Irish people. They just seem to like a good time. The only thing I notice about the Irish that affects their relationship to drink, is that they don't have a negative view of alcohol, only a negative view of unhappiness and illness. However, I should warn you that this is a view of Boston Irish, not of Irish people, because around Ireland, it is the Scottish people who are known as the heavy drinkers, not the Irish. So this seems to me, to be only another false stereotype, that has absolutely no basis in reality. Considering how on TV Americans always ask for a beer, even in the middle of the day, I would be far more inclined to assume that Americans are the heavy drinkers, and I consider that this stereotype might have been spread as a way of deflecting from American over-consumption of alcohol.
Jews have done lots of jobs over the centuries. It's true that in Europe, Jews were forbidden to join the Guilds, and so were only able to earn a living from non-Jews by peddling and usury, which translate into our modern language as travelling salesman and bankers. But there was nothing stopping Jews from doing these jobs in their ghettos, amongst other Jews. For instance, Tevye is a milkman in Fiddler on the Roof. But non-Jews didn't go into the Jewish ghettos, so they didn't see this. But this still leaves us with a question: why aren't Jews portrayed as travelling salesmen? The only reason that Jews are portrayed as money-lenders, is that Christians were forbidden to lend money with interest to other Christians, and precious few Christians were charitable enough to lend money without interest. So if a Christian needed money, he/she ended up borrowing from a Jew. But that meant that the Christian "owed" the hated Jew something, and that really p*ssed them off, especially as quite often, they couldn't repay their debt, and didn't want to be thrown into jail for not paying their debts. But the poor Christians couldn't afford to pay back a lot of money, so they didn't borrow a lot of money, so they could usually find a friend to lend them. It was the nobles who used to spend all their money on gambling, drinking, women and the like, and they would run up huge debts and borrow off a Jew. Quite often they couldn't pay their debts either, and rather than admit they were broke or worse, be thrown in jail, they would start a blood libel against the Jews, there would be a pogrom, all the Jews would be killed or run out of town, and the noble wouldn't have to pay his debt. The story of Shylock did exist, but it was the borrower who was demanding his pound of flesh, not Shylock.
Jews are better with money than non-Jews, in general. But that is because they are more committed to education than most people. But that is not why they are considered bankers. IMO, there are far more Jews who are doctors than bankers. If anything, there should be a stereotype that all Jews are doctors.
Many Africans do have slightly curved bones, so they are apparently much better at things like cross-country running. But let us be perfectly honest. Who ever heard of a black shot-putter? So Africans and African-Americans are probably only percieved as better athletes, because they didn't have much encouragement in education, and being good at sports was a way out of poverty and crime. Jews and Irish also used to be known as good athletes in the 1930s and before, for the same reasons. They were all poor, and this was a way out of poverty.
None of these are really strong enough characteristics to make them real. All that happens is that people believe stereotypes often enough that they see these stereotypes everywhere. It's very, very common to do this.
Not inherent. Not breeding. Just your own imagination and a bit of stereotyping. | |
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Posted: 5/10/2008 1:47:59 PM | steven02151,
Race is a myth. It always has been.
Having said that, it seems clear to me that behavioral patterns can be passed down to the next generation, even without the assistance of socialization. As an example, I share many of the very same interests as my father, but didn't learn this until a few years ago when I began talking with him regularly for the first time. He'd never told me that he filmed documentaries, or that he had a strong interest in art. Even our decision-making processes are similar. I can't say that my mom taught me anything about him because she never mentioned any of these details about him. Actually, he told me that he never told he about these things, so that explains it I guess.
So, without living with my dad or being involved in his life until very recently, I still acquired the many of the same interests and behavioral patterns as he has. There are some studies that show that identical twins often share very similar behavioral patterns, even when they are not raised together.
So yes, it's possible that some general behavioral patterns can be passed down from one generation to another, but in the context of an entire population, the probability seems higher that most behavioral patterns were the result of socialization, not genetics. | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 5:36:51 PM | Guys, I dont mean to quibble. Maybe my examples arent the best but try to grasp the inquiry here.
Different groups of people........language, nationalities, races, religions, etc.....seem by and large to have characteristics that predominate and create stereotypes, some of which at least have grains of truth to them.
If it is true that we observe marked differences between groups, whence comes these differences?
If you took a black man, a Jewish man, an Irish man, etc. and raised each one the same way.......same schools, educated them at Harvard or the ghetto or whatever ....are people the same and would there be similar outcomes over the course of their lives?
Or, not?
Do we believe that people are generally equal in smarts, goodness, etc. no matter what group .....or not?
And if there are differences, are they genetic or a result of breeding?
Let's face it, everyone has ideas about inborn and inherent characteristics of Jews, blacks, Asians..........how are these explained? | |
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Posted: 5/11/2008 7:27:39 PM | Action comes more accurately from thought than from the shape of a nose, or the colour of skin.
Thought comes from internalization.
Maybe the title should be Culture and Behaviour.
Although I think we understand the question being asked, and can hopefully agree that it makes sense. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2008 2:19:20 PM | And there has to be some genetic reason for the ridulously high level of violent crime in the American black community.
The 'quantity' is lower 'numerically' than the 'majority' (as it is with incarceration and welfare), the 'percentage' is 'higher' and that percentage is a 'small' minority within that community as with any group. This is the result of failed national policy not failed genetics. Read "Savage Discovery: The Moynihan Report" aka "blaming the victim".
You just dont see that high level of violence in black populations in other countries.
In in Haiti, Jamaica and various African countries it is dramatically higher. Although the U.S. has a gun culture, it is easier to get an AK47 in those places.
You cant subject a population of people to that kind of savage
brutality and not expect it to have leave lasting and permanent damage.
The permanent and lasting damage (which is the child of colonization) is inequity (institutional and socio-economic), disinfrachisement and failed policy as it was then and still is not genetics. Again, read "Savage Discovery: The Moynihan Report" aka "blaming the victim". | |
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Posted: 5/20/2008 2:47:18 PM |
the difference is that Americans in the USA have a much more favorable environment for atheltic development and training on the professional level. African Americans in the US out acheive other Americans at this time due to the fact that they were shut out of many other high paying professions for so long. Athletics became a quick fix to ecconomic security. As Eurpeans in countires where the economy is limited and wealth is poorly distributed come to the US or get opportunity to train for professional atheletics they out achieve european Americans in that area also.
This is the PC explanation. Have you ever read the book "Taboo"? He uses real statistic to back what he is saying. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2008 3:33:08 PM |
If it is true that we observe marked differences between groups, whence comes these differences? It's like trying to diagnose a sick person based on their symptoms. Take Jews. They aren't any better in business than most other people. They tend to do 2 things:
1) They scrimp and save to ensure their children get a good education. So they're very well-educated.
2) They don't drink that much, or go on the pull that much. They stay home. So they save their money.
Good education + saving money = better business. Common sense.
But even then, there are plenty of uneducated Jews, and Jews who are poor. So it's just a trend. It's not genetic and certainly not guaranteed.
If you took a black man, a Jewish man, an Irish man, etc. and raised each one the same way.......same schools, educated them at Harvard or the ghetto or whatever ....are people the same and would there be similar outcomes over the course of their lives? There are a LOT of black people who go around my area, got educated at the same schools as whites, went to university, got a good job, married a nice pretty woman, now dress in a suit and glasses, and go shopping in the same mall where the white folks go. You'd be amazed at just how similarly different people act when they get the same education and upbringing.
Do we believe that people are generally equal in smarts, goodness, etc. no matter what group .....or not? There are observable differences, but they are 99% so identifiable with imitated behaviour that it's difficult to pass them off as anything else.
And if there are differences, are they genetic or a result of breeding? There ARE differences, but these are extremely subtle. For instance, I once watched a programme that explained that people of African descent tend to have slightly curved bones. This is much better for cross-country running, but it means they are not a good choice for male ballet dancers. But how many people make it to be professional ballet dancers?
Let's face it, everyone has ideas about inborn and inherent characteristics of Jews, blacks, Asians..........how are these explained? You mean that all African-Americans have big d*cks, when statistics show they don't? How about that all Jews are rich, when I know plenty who aren't at all, and that I was wearing my brother's hand-me-downs and so did my younger brother and we didn't pocket money, because we didn't have any money? Ever heard of stereotypes? | |
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Posted: 5/21/2008 7:28:29 AM | I'm thinking it isn't so much a genetic thing, but a socio-economic thing that you are pointing out.
Sure...drinking helps people "get through" life. It takes the edge off. It can relax you a bit. Sometimes you make a damned fool of yourself. But...in relative terms, you are NOT doing harm towards the state...which is one of the reasons gov't keeps the price of alcohol in check, and affordable.
Think about this. An announcement of higher taxation. Those with no "outlet" are more likely to rebel against it. Those having a drink over the issue and "discussing" it are not only not really doing anything about it, but will probably be in no real shape to do anything about it. So, the lord of the manor gets the tax hike through without too much civil disobedience, and the world goes on, leaving the drinkers just something else to drink about.
Ok...some black people are athletic. Not all, by any means. Not that many black hockey players. Football, basketball and such...perhaps they played harder...raised with the game, so to speak, and therefore are better at it. Wayne Gretzki had a hockey stick in his hand all the time, winter and summer, building his skills until he could make a break in the NHL. Many ball players do the same. A lot of kids have dreams of being a big-pay superstar athlete...but very few actually make it. then they realize that they have wasted their time, their dreams are shattered...why bother.....blah,blah,blah..
We've all heard about Indians not wanting to work. But I've seen a great many of them take on jobs I sure wouldn't want to. Some of the best high-steel workers are natives. Many have paid with their lives for this position.
We can't make assumptions on the success stories of the few, as compared to the failures of the many. Many excel in other fields...some do not, just like anyone else. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 12:20:49 AM | If you guys don't mind me popping in and leaving my 2 cents.
I believe that race does not have anything to do with behavior. Your personality is not determined by what color your skin is, or by what shape your eyes are, you might be purple with pink poke dots for all I care.
What determines your behavior is your social upbringing as well as the community you live in. If you live in a community filled with violence then it is beyond any doubt that you will be violent, or at least more violent then those people raised in better neighborhoods.
Lets look at this as an example:
Person A
Lives in a city with high crime rate, can't go to a good school because one doesn't exist in his area, parents aren't the best and don't teach him/her what's wrong or right.
Person B
Brought up in a wealthy family, in a quiet suburban area, goes to a private school, takes martial arts and has parents that do tell him what's wrong and whats right.
Obviously Person A would be more likely to commit a crime.
Yes you may bring up the argument that there are those quiet rich kids that snap and go on a mass rampage and kill everyone, but you fail to overlook the fact those kids have suppressed childhoods and more likely then not, not enough parental guidance and influence (not by keeping them at home shielded from the world mind you) in their lives.
I remember I read about a certain individual that came up with a diagram. I can't remember his name, but the diagram showed how people with certain facial structures and different physical traits where more likely to commit certain crimes then others. Obviously his theory wasn't taken into consideration.
Also, since I'm sure this would ultimately go down to the Black people VS While people topic. I would just like to say that the reason black communities see so much more crime then white ones is again because of racism as well as the fact that they are pretty much ignored when it comes to many important issues. They are segregated and of course having a bunch of negativity in a jar isn't going to help anyone. Two wrongs don't make a right, and because of poverty and many other factors, people don't have a choice but to turn to crime. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 10:41:31 AM | | I watched a speech by infamous Rev. Jerimiah Wright a while back. I think this was at the NAACP meeting in Detroit. Wright went into animated detail about University marching bands at white and black colleges to make his point that whites and blacks are genetically different at least how we respond to ceremony. The crowd cheered. I thought to myself if a white man had made that speech, Al Sharpton would be calling for his head. Muhammed Ali once told reporters that he did not "get" white music. That it did nothing for him. The thing is I agree with Wright and Ali. I do not understand black culture, and have no desire to do so. Most music by black artists does nothing for me. Now I say that and put myself at risk for being called a racist, yet I am only echoing what black men have said. For years we have been told we are just alike. The only thing different is skin color. What is wrong with celebrating cultural differences? It would be a pretty boring world if we all were exactly alike. | |
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Posted: 5/24/2008 7:12:10 PM | | Just TRY celebrating "white culture" and see how fast you get shut down and locked up, not to mention being branded "racist". There are groupd out there that do just that...some more "right wing" than others...but all labeled under the same name by thos eignorant enough to not make the distinction. Kind of like saying all pro-black groups are associated or linked to the old "black panthers". LOl...oh...suuuurre...hehehe... | |
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Posted: 5/25/2008 7:24:44 AM | | Nature versus Nurture is an argument that has and will go on for a long time. Both come in to play. The biggest mistake people make I think is that many stereo types come from what the mean of a groups actions or measurements are. Then they apply this to every individual in the group, which NEVER works. Only around 66% percent of the people in that group will be within one standard deviation of the mean(33% on either side of the mean) so when you are trying to apply the information of the mean to an individual its almost a coin toss where it will "fit" them. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 8:39:24 PM | Just TRY celebrating "white culture" and see how fast you get shut down and locked up, not to mention being branded "racist". There are groupd out there that do just that...some more "right wing" than others...but all labeled under the same name by thos eignorant enough to not make the distinction.
The problem with "White Pride" groups is that even if they start out just celebrating the positive things about being white, invariably they become infested with racists. Check out the Stormfront webpage. Their description of the organization is innocuous enough (no worse than any "Black Pride" organization). But then go to their forums and I don't think you'll find a single Stormfront member who isn't a racist and proud of it. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 8:51:40 PM | I have heard, also, that for many Jews in Europe the only work they could get was a money lenders, which was considered distasteful for many Europeans, but there is an association we all have with Jews and money.
I wonder if, perhaps, the Jews don't generally see money as evil. If you read through the Old Testament the rich are generally seen in a positive light. Job, for example, starts out as a rich man. God/Satan sh1ts on him so he loses his family and wealth. Then when he proves himself god rewards him with a new family and a return of his wealth.
Contrast that with the New Testament. Jesus tells us that it's as likely as a rich man to get into Heaven as it is for a camel to get through the eye of a needle. Jesus urges the wealthy to give all their money to the poor. Indeed one rich man followed all the laws and Jesus said he needed to one more thing: give away all his possessions. The man couldn't do it and we're left to conclude that he's burning in hell right about now. The Christian is taught that the love of money is the root of all evil. It's no surprise that the Jews who have a positive outlook on money tend to have more money than the Christians who view it negatively.
And, especially in America where there was 200 years of slavery, black people are known for their physical prowess ...this small minority dominates most national sports ... so could it be that the slaves who were physically strongest were the ones who tended to survive and adapt to life better, thus pass on those genes?
There's probably some truth to that. It might also be a cultural thing. Many blacks see sports as their ticket out of the ghettos. Likewise for being rappers. So blacks dominate these things. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 9:40:35 PM | RE msg 21 by CountIbli:
I have heard, also, that for many Jews in Europe the only work they could get was a money lenders, which was considered distasteful for many Europeans, but there is an association we all have with Jews and money. I wonder if, perhaps, the Jews don't generally see money as evil. If you read through the Old Testament the rich are generally seen in a positive light. Job, for example, starts out as a rich man. God/Satan sh1ts on him so he loses his family and wealth. Then when he proves himself god rewards him with a new family and a return of his wealth.
Suffice to say that Jewish Religious Literature is full of the virtues of those who are not obsessed with money.
I learned about this in history. In Medieval Europe, every trade has its own association, called a Guild. Every person, of whatever trade, had to belong to the Guild of his trade, and Christians were not allowed to deal with anyone who did not belong to a Guild. Jews were denied entry to every Guild. So they could not work. They were only able to work at a trade and deal with other Jews, in the Ghettos, which were tiny cordoned-off areas of cities given to Jews to live in, in extremely cramped conditions, which would be called slums today, and Shtetls, which were ramshackle villages outside town. There were only 2 forms of profession that were not covered by the Guilds: money-lending (usury), because Christians were forbidden to lend to other Christians with interest, so no-one wanted to lend money as a profession, and peddling (travelling salesmen), as no-one had cars, there were few police, and things were a lot more primitive, so travelling salesmen were away from home for months or years at a time, and were often attacked by wild animals, and highwaymen, so no-one wanted to do that either. The Guilds went out of fashion when the Industrial Revolution took over. However, the old Guilds of London still exist, and are called Livery Companies, and still have a say in the running of the City of London, and are still consulted in some business decisions by the Mayor of London and other officials. It's also the origin of modern Guilds in America such as the Writer's Guild, and the Screen Actor's Guild.
The hatred of Jews and money came about, because if you spent all your money, you could only turn to a money-lender, who would only be a Jew. If you owed money, and you couldn't pay, you'd be sent to Debtor's Prison, and you'd only get released when you paid your debts. Obviously you couldn't earn anything in prison, so it would be up to your family and friends to come up with the money to pay off your debts and bail you out. If they didn't do that, you'd stay in Debtor's Prison till you died. So Jews became very important to people who spent more than they could earn. Trouble was, that a lot of these people would borrow money off Jews, and then would keep spending, so they couldn't pay the Jew back. Often they'd start nasty rumour about Jews, that would enrage the locals, and cause a mob, attacking and killing innocent Jews en masse. The actual story of Shylock was the other way around, that a Christian noble who borrowed money off a Jew, and couldn't pay it back, demanded his pound of flesh from the Jew, in return for the mistaken opinion that Jews dobbed poor Jesus in. Jewish Law says that even if you raise your hand to hit someone, you're called a Wicked person, even before you've struck him, and even if you pull your hand back at the last minute, Jews are culturally programmed to abhor violence and avoid violence at every opportunity. So there is no way that a Jew would ever have demanded a pound of flesh from someone. It's not only against Jewish Law. It's practically un-Jewish. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 10:57:41 AM | I know these are all stereotypes and I am not a racist, but there is truth in these, nevertheless.
A line used by all racists...lol.
And there has to be some genetic reason for the ridulously high level of violent crime in the American black community. You just dont see that high level of violence
in black populations in other countries. There has to be some connection with the
brutality of slavery. You cant subject a population of people to that kind of savage
brutality and not expect it to have leave lasting and permanent damage.
We are all the product of the people who came before us.
High crime rate is more about poverty , and being excluded from the "American Dream".
Brazil has the largest African American population in the world.
They would be afro-brazilian, not afro-american. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 11:03:53 AM |
High crime rate is more about poverty , and being excluded from the "American Dream".
This has been shown not to true for several reasons - the biggest is that violent crime rates for the American Black Community that have achieved the American dream(thus aren't living in poverty) are higher than whites of the same demographics. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 10:33:29 PM | Prejudice is based on fact and personal experience. So what appears true to one person may/may not appear true to another due to their personal experiences. The fact alone is just a fact but it's how we interpret the fact that becomes prejudice. I don't think it's a matter of right or wrong. It's just a matter of objective perspective. Our perception of a person places them in a group which we may have a pre-judged towards a certain disposition.
For instance:
I think people with tatoos have poor judgement. | |
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