| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/8/2008 4:04:40 PM | Well, here we are with gas prices in OHIO going up to $4.00 a gallon! I know that isn't as high as other states, but it's high for most of us in OHIO.
I heard that by this time next year the price could be as high as $7 to $10 a gallon.
Seems that we are working just to put gas in our cars. I heard on the radio this afternoon that a single father had to actually decide what was more important.....put food on his table to feed his 3 children or put gas in his car to go to work!
I think that the price in gas is going to cause a lot more issues than the government ever thought. They are making larger incomes than most people, so increase in gas is no real worry. But for the normal working person.....this is going to really hurt. Are our employers going to raise our incomes because of this?
Just an example of how this will cause issues:
We will have to cut back on dining out, which will cause a problem for the people who work at the restaurants or who owns them.
Food suppliers to the restaurants will suffer because the restaurants ordering the food won’t need as much because of business being down.
Ranchers who raise the meat or vegetables will suffer because the demand for those items will go down because the food suppliers aren’t ordering as much because the restaurants aren’t ordering as much because people can't afford to go out and eat because all their extra "fun" money is now going into their gas tanks…….
Just think of all the things that can happen because of the greed of someone who originally sells the gas. Everything will be affected because of this….. what can you think of that might be affected because of the gas increase? | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/8/2008 4:29:57 PM | I think that anyone earning less than 15 dollars a hour will be working very hard to just survive. The question is how does this country quickly reduce the amount of gas we use? As long as the dollar continues to struggle the United States will suffer.
It is important to remember that empires come and go. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/8/2008 5:10:18 PM | To answer one of the questions about employers raising our salaries, the answer is no. If our incomes started to rise rapidly the result would be inflation. Inflation would only fuel the cycle of gas prices going up.
The irony is inflation might result in the reduction of gas consumption if most Americans were unable to buy gas.
The cruel reality of the situation is a weak dollar due to many factors including the countries high personal and national debt among other reasons.
One of the few options we have here in The United States is to cut consumption and increase the use of alternative fuels. Consider what the high cost of fuel will do to the American auto industry. Then factor in the devasting effect the loss of auto jobs will have on the rest of the economy. The situation is only beginning to go bad. The worse is yet to come? | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/8/2008 5:47:03 PM | | Postive steps to take include easy stuff. Slow down and drive at the posted speed. Check the air pressure in the tires of your car or truck. Check the air filter. Little steps will save you much regarding consumption. Plan driving carefully to avoid wasted trips. The only way this gets better is if people think and work together. Try car pooling if you can. We need to think. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/8/2008 6:22:13 PM | | I think the old gas and go will make a significant appearance again. The fact is that for the most part, most people will find more and more creative ways to rob Peter to pay Paul for the go juice. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/9/2008 4:32:22 AM | | Can anyone say ...HARLEY? Ok so maybe you cant afford one of those but I bet you will see more and more motorcycles and scooters on the roads... Bikes can get up to 50 miles per gallon....Can you guess what I will be investing in? | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/9/2008 5:37:38 AM | I am glad the price went up so high..it has finally motivated me to start riding a good old fashion BIKE... great exercise and no pricy gas.  | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/9/2008 7:30:26 AM | Oh don't get me started on this one.
I think that anyone earning less than 15 dollars a hour will be working very hard to just survive. The question is how does this country quickly reduce the amount of gas we use? As long as the dollar continues to struggle the United States will suffer.
It is important to remember that empires come and go.
All over the greed of a few politicians, wave that flag put that magnetic ribbon on your car & go buy gas like a good American! ... best of all support your leaders who devised this plan to destroy our economy as we know it. Not to mention all that have died to protect their investments on foreign soil.
If it gets too high...it will be cheaper to rent a place near work as oppossed to driving there.
I've always weighed this factor in looking for a job, & even interviewing. I've recently talked to a headhunter in Columbus wanting me to drive down & chat over future opportunities... lessee, 400 mile round trip, @ 22 mpg tops + parking .. well you do the math.
I am glad the price went up so high..it has finally motivated me to start riding a good old fashion BIKE... great exercise and no pricy gas. .
I hope you are not serious here? I'd think about that myself, but with all the nuts you share the road with, let alone you can't ride a bike through a foot or several feet of snow either. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/9/2008 7:33:38 AM | I think the old gas and go will make a significant appearance again. The fact is that for the most part, most people will find more and more creative ways to rob Peter to pay Paul for the go juice.
Kinda reminds me of the increase on cigarettes huh?
Taxing those who can afford it the least, & using the monies to support their affluent lifestyles.
I heard that by this time next year the price could be as high as $7 to $10 a gallon.
& just how do they (analyists) know this?? they got Carnac working for them??
Agreed, our employers will not raise our pay to cover these increases (unless you are in the top echelon), as I said before this is another step in the elimination of the middle class. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/9/2008 2:10:06 PM | Fox,
The statement on the price was sarcasm, the part about the bike..true...I am pedalling(sp?) my butt all over town now or walking...when it comes to winter i will re-eval my situation and make concessions...lol | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/9/2008 3:25:46 PM | You know that the greed will continue as long as the "need" is there.
It has and continues to happen in so many areas of our daily lives.
Look at the cost involved at being in the hospital.
You could buy 2 bottles of asprins for the amount they charge you
for just 1 asprin in the hospital.
So many people go without their medicine because of the cost.
If you don't have insurance you'd pay out over $300 for a 30 day
supply for some of the common name brand heart burn medications
that you can only get with a prescription.
You can buy 3 shirts as low as $10.00 at some places, but
then you'd have to spend $10.00 just for 1 of the same shirts
at a different store!
Go figure!!!! We have a lot of greedy people in this world that makes
it hard for any "middle class" to make it in this world. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/10/2008 6:30:57 AM |
Look at the cost involved at being in the hospital.
You could buy 2 bottles of asprins for the amount they charge you
for just 1 asprin in the hospital.
That sounds like a deal, I thought an asprin in a Hospital was at least $50, & that was several years ago.... I know an apple & a sandwich was $80 at the Cleveland Clinic in '93... good to know where your 'health care' dollars are being spent
So many people go without their medicine because of the cost.
If you don't have insurance you'd pay out over $300 for a 30 day
supply for some of the common name brand heart burn medications
that you can only get with a prescription.
& why is this? I live in daily pain myself, I'm figuring that's just part of life at this point.
Health Care is already screwed up, Im glad some people actually realize that.... now lets do something about it?
Go figure!!!! We have a lot of greedy people in this world that makes
it hard for any "middle class" to make it in this world.
Can we attribute this 'greed' to the boomer generation? | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/10/2008 8:02:17 AM | The question has been raised as to who benefits from the current high oil prices. We can point fingers and never solve the problem. Do we live in a country that is buidlt upon the idea that making money is important? Yes in fact it is interesting if we explore the idea of profit versus greed we may discover a few interesting points.
When the big three American auto makers were selling large gas hoggs the 90's who benefited? Everyone at the big three of course. Did they know the product was using an enormous amount of fuel? Yes they knew this. So do we now demonioze every engineer , salesperson and factory worker at the big three becasue they took part in this arrangement? For that matter do we demonize Americans that drive their SUV's 25 miles over the posted speed limit?
As for health care. If the system is so bad are we again saying everyone involved with the system is bad?
Decisons made in this country are made by who?
Are we to throw up our hands and give in?
I can't say where the leadership will come from. But it is leadership we need. More than leadership we need to develop the idea that what we do in life is connected to other people and we all benefit or suffer as a group of people .
Have we ever truely showed concern for the rest of the world that has suffered while we were well off?
Where is our leadership? | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/10/2008 8:33:55 AM | Blame Henry Kissinger and the government for being ignorant enough to not work on our national debt. It's not the oil companies, refineries or gas stations to blame.
Oh and make yourself a hydrogen generator, HOD or HHO system to increase your MPG. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/10/2008 9:54:59 AM | Looking back this all started back in '73, if our leaders were too stupid then to figure this would come to a head someday, we've dumbed down even more sorry to say & greed has taken over.
We used to be a nation of 'can-do' people we used to manufacture things & make dreams come true, now we have become just a bunch of pencil pushing pussies, looking to scam a buck out of the next person... After the last 7 years especially, I'm ashamed of this country.
BT, the ones that still can 'get it done' are rewarded with low paying manufacturing jobs to make the wealthy even wealthier.
Time for a middle class revolution, huh? | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:00:52 AM |
Blame Henry Kissinger and the government for being ignorant enough to not work on our national debt. It's not the oil companies, refineries or gas stations to blame.
Who do you think is paying for these stimulius checks we are recieving, remember as we will be taxed on these, & will go against the national debt...
BTW I Am still waiting for my 2002 stimulus check I NEVER recieved. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:46:55 AM | Monetary lobbying of elected officials is "business as usual" in American politics. Political campaigns are ran on money.
Our President and VP are both closely connected to the oil industry and owe their current positions to being financed by the oil industry.
Our Democratic form of government is being bought by big business. If a lobbyist can finance the right politician a payback in the form of political favors is a certainty.
Higher gas prices are just a payback from Mr. Bush to the oil industry. Unfortunately, we're the ones paying for it.
Democratic government, capitalist economy= bought and paid for politicans.
Taking the money out of the political process could be a good start.
Then, instead of the politicans working to pay back favors they may be induced to actually listen to those who elected them. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/10/2008 11:29:51 AM |
Then, instead of the politicans working to pay back favors they may be induced to actually listen to those who elected them.
When I worked in engineering (Remember years back when the economy was a bit more stable) , I had to sign ethics clauses & no compete agreements with my employer.
Now too bad our politicians are not bound to these same rules, after all they work for us & are paid by us.
BTW Bush is an Oil president, as long as there is an Oil president in office this same practice will continue, Bush is getting quite rich off our miseries. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/10/2008 2:46:53 PM | Fox, I am curious as to which of the candidates you would endorse seeing how we have an oil president and all. Do you really think the answer is in changing the president? I mean obviously there will still be oil men in congress.
I do not have a solution to the problem myself therefore I really do not complain about it. The cold hard truth is I do not think there will be any true relief in sight from the rising gas prices.
Supply and demand is what is at the heart of this whole situation. Some say electric cars, some say hydrogen, others say compressed air are the answer. NOT! Until we as a country united stop buying these cars that run on gas then there will be no change. Right now there is nothing forcing the Big 3 Automakers to really push these alternative fueled vehicles. | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/10/2008 2:50:13 PM | climbsagain......you said "As for health care. If the system is so bad are we again saying everyone involved with the system is bad?"
No.....I'm not saying they are all bad......but I work in the Health system and I see a lot of greedy people and companies.
As for the issue concerning helping other countries.....I see and hear how we send millions on dollars to other countries to help the starving and sick......but at the same time we have families living in their cars or in shelters because they can't find jobs that pay enough to support their family. We have children that are starving right here in the USA but we send money over to other countries to help feed them........what about the families and children right here in our own backyards?
What about how we have fund raisers to raise money for people in other countries, or how the space program uses millions on dollars....but we have people starving and homeless.
I just don't get it | |
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| Gas Price increase. What do you think?
Posted: 5/10/2008 3:59:58 PM | An interesting observation here as a side note. Without directing my opinion to anyone in particuliar I seem to have hit peoples nerves. It was a statement I made because the thread has numerous comments regarding the high cost of the medical care in this country and the problem of the high number of people doing without.
Back to the point is that we in the United states have been living on easy street for decades while many in the world have lived on the fringe. Now that conditions are becoming bad for the United states, the fringe edge of survial upon which millions of poor elderly and children live world wide is becoming a razor sharpe edge. We are still in good shape compared to people struggling to pay for petroleum based ferilizers to grow rice and other crops. The poor will begin dying in numbers that are unacceptable in a world that can build football stadiums and buy pizza for dinner.
In the United states we squnder opportunties everyday and we don't get it. WE have children that go to school and are fed two meals a day yet in inner cities half do not graduate from high school. We have to stop wasting what we have.
We need to slow down, change our habits. What are constuctive measures we can take instead of taking matters personally? | |
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