| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 8:36:10 AM | A scary thing happened yesterday. At work I sometime access POF and it really isn't a good idea of course, so I provided a separate, newly made hotmail address, for anonimity.
After talking for about 2 nights, we got along pretty good. Now, I may be far too paranoid, but as I was my grocery store this guy glanced at me. He had finished paying for groceries and was on his way out. 10 minutes later, I walk towards my car and he's sitting in his (next to MINE!) and didn't he look almost exactly like the pic of who I have been speaking to! And he was just staring at me as I walked towards my car. I happened to be behind him later, driving home, (HE HAD A LOANER PLATE ) hanging out of the trunk of his car.
Damn I should have followed him, but was too chicken. This whole inernet dating things is scaring me, as if I wasn't scared already.
I should have walked toward his car earlier maybe, made like I knew him, or that he looked like somebody I know. I would have thought of something. Creeped out now!
My ex was controling and there a laundry list with the local police station. My bro is mentally handicapped and the Toronto police have a long list on him.
NOW, for me to g to the police with a question like this (very very small town) geez, I don't need more attention drawn to me.
Anybody with any answers out there, other than I should have kept conversations within POF, even if it was an anonymous hotmail address | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 12:27:42 PM | | actually yes, it is possible to trace someone back to their ISP. not sure how easily it's done via anonymous email accounts such as hotmail, but it can be done. i have a friend who's a programming geek and he did this to prove a point when a girl contacted him online. after a bit of chatting she informed him that she was in fact underage...big red flags, and he wanted to shake some sense into her. within 10 minutes he'd traced back to her ISP and found the registered address of the account. when he was able to list off her exact street address she apparently found it to be a very sobering moment. he then discontinued chatting and hopefully made his point. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 12:42:35 PM | With your past history it is quite under stand able as to why you would be concerned. As for tracing you back to your ISP addy yes it is very possible to do.
When you feel that way it is very healthy to be concerned. Always go with your gut instincts better to be safe than sorry.  | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 12:48:55 PM | You should use gmail not hotmail, the reason is that hotmail shows your ip number which can be traced whereas gmail uses a proxy so they can't. Never use IM's unless you're using a proxy like tor, it will be harder for someone to track you down.
http://www.torproject.org/ | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 12:51:08 PM |
actually yes, it is possible to trace someone back to their ISP. not sure how easily it's done via anonymous email accounts such as hotmail, but it can be done. i have a friend who's a programming geek and he did this to prove a point when a girl contacted him online. after a bit of chatting she informed him that she was in fact underage...big red flags, and he wanted to shake some sense into her. within 10 minutes he'd traced back to her ISP and found the registered address of the account. when he was able to list off her exact street address she apparently found it to be a very sobering moment. he then discontinued chatting and hopefully made his point.
Does your friend realize hacking an ISP is a federal offense? If he ever got caught that's jail time. That is the only way he could get someone's info. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 1:00:10 PM | Yes, you can be traced by your ISP. It's not THAT easy though that just anyone can do it.........besides the "hackers" info and footprint can also be recorded and ascertained to a specific computer.........ask your local FBI agents about that one. And it's a Federal offense to boot.
OP-
But, I don't quite understand, what a man, who's in a grocery store, exiting BEFORE you, glancing at you, looking "almost exactly" like the pic of the man with whom you've been corresponding, sitting in a loaner car next to yours would scare you?
The man in the store was a) there BEFORE you evidentally b) exited BEFORE you so how in the world would he know what you were driving in order to park beside of you? Unless of COURSE, he saw you drive in, glanced at you in the store, rushed out, moved his car before you exited said store so he could be there to stare at you when you approached your car? Am I missing something here? ~tilts head~ Unless you have more information on just why you are creeped out.
And you had thoughts of going to the police with THAT ^^^ miniscule amount of information? I don't know WHAT to think.
Relax or something. IMHO. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 1:09:24 PM | Can it be traced? yes, but very few know how to do this..
Paranoid? Yes, unless you have a computer in your car that you have been communicating to him with and sending IMS while in the grocery store parking lot I dont thing you have to worry.. plus the guy looking at you didnt really look like the guy you were iming with.. so why inthe world wouldyou think it was the same person? Did you think maybe your just good looking? and a bit crazy?
Claas Act: thanks for the laugh.. you outlined the only way this could come a bit close to making sense, in a wierd, conspiracy theory way.. As you mentioned, the logistics would be impossible | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 1:28:59 PM |
The man in the store was a) there BEFORE you evidentally b) exited BEFORE you so how in the world would he know what you were driving in order to park beside of you? Unless of COURSE, he saw you drive in, glanced at you in the store, rushed out, moved his car before you exited said store so he could be there to stare at you when you approached your car?
i love you so much right now | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 1:38:43 PM | well, isn't it possible that after sqeezing info out of her packets, that he hacked into her DMV records and got the make/model/plate of her car. Then he'd work his way into her world, from a distance, learning that she shopped each Thursday at the local market. From that point, it would be easy to know
1) where to park
2) be inside the market first (using a friend to park his car next to hers' while he himself was already standing inside)
3) leave before her (trivial) | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 1:40:53 PM | | Okay, you've only been on here less than a week. I really think it's time for you to forget about this online stuff. Wow! A guy glanced at you in a store! You're saying you should have followed him? He could then report YOU to the police. Would you feel better then? | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 1:55:06 PM |
At work I sometime access POF and it really isn't a good idea of course, so I provided a separate, newly made hotmail address, for anonimity.
now if i'm reading this right You set up your hotmail account useing the computer where you work (at the grocery store where you work) I beleave if that is right people are not reading into the whole story. If what I said is true then yes you have evry right to be concerned.
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 2:03:48 PM |
Does your friend realize hacking an ISP is a federal offense? If he ever got caught that's jail time. That is the only way he could get someone's info.
yes...and he doesn't tend to make a habit of using his code-breaking skills...just a nice guy who wanted to keep a dumb kid from being vulnerable to a real predator. besides the scary stalker types like the OP is fearful of aren't usually too concerned about breaking the law, since stalking is considered a criminal offense as well. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 2:11:44 PM | You've been talking to the guy for 2 nights, right? Did you mention what grocery store you shop at, or when you were going? Maybe a casual comment? Did you tell him what type of car you drive?
Tracing someone via IP isn't brain surgery and if he knows someone at your ISP it's a lot simpler. But I'd say the odds of him doing this are pretty slim ...
Maybe he just saw you at the store and thought you were cute. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 2:19:06 PM | OP Is the grocery store your place of employment? And are you assuming that this "stalker" knows your schedule.? I think you need to relax. Now if the same guy shows up everywhere you are then , you have cause for concern.
Dont forget to always lock your car door,and or check the back seat every time you get it.................But I would suspect you already do that. Oh and get someone to walk you to your car. The cart boy, maybe.
I'm not trying to make light of how you feel. Live your life with caution . Not paranoia and fear. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 3:11:38 PM |
Msg: 1 -- After talking for about 2 nights, we got along pretty good.
OK, seems normal so far.
Now, I may be far too paranoid, but as I was my grocery store this guy glanced at me. He had finished paying for groceries and was on his way out. 10 minutes later, I walk towards my car and he's sitting in his (next to MINE!) and didn't he look almost exactly like the pic of who I have been speaking to!
At this point, STILL seems normal.
And he was just staring at me as I walked towards my car.
Hmm, OK, that IS a bit ODD. I would have SAID something to you were I in his shoes, like perhaps "Hello, do you recognize me?", or "You and I emailed each other on POF, do I look familiar to you?" or something like that. BTW, I would REALLY enjoy an encounter like that. Face to face, I recognize you from your pix and you recognize me from mine, and like, "Hi, would you like to talk a bit?"
Just out of curiosity, would you have answered him had he said any of these things to you? Bear in mind, now, he REMAINS SEATED in his car, DOOR CLOSED, window rolled down, COMPLETELY **non-threatening**. You respond AS YOU WISH from what YOU consider to be a comfortable distance. WOULD you have responded? If so, would you have responded in the _negative_ (stay away, I am afraid of you), _positive_ (OK, we can talk for a moment or two, but I have just done my groceries, so I need to get home QUICKLY so I can properly contain my frozen items), or _tentative_ (you can contact me by email, you already know my addy)?
I happened to be behind him later, driving home, (HE HAD A LOANER PLATE ) hanging out of the trunk of his car.
OK, half the bats in my belfry have no candles and can't see in the dark, so PLEASE enlighten me. YOU were FOLLOWING **HIM**? Umm, WHAT **EXACTLY** am I MISSING?
According to my "misunderstanding", a stalker FOLLOWS the prey. You apparently contacted him while AT the store, so a traceable IP would lead to the STORE, **NOT** to your domicile. That being the case, and ASIDE from the fact he said nothing as you approached your car, WHAT **EXACTLY** did he do to arouse your suspicions?
Please bear in mind this is not a verbal attack. I am GENUINELY **CURIOUS** about what thought processes passed your mind during this apparently frightening event. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 3:15:38 PM | | People, people..............learn to read. She never contacted him from a computer at the grocery store, she doesn't WORK at the grocery store.................she just happened to be "at" her grocery store when she encountered this individual. | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 3:27:04 PM |
People, people..............learn to read. She never contacted him from a computer at the grocery store, she doesn't WORK at the grocery store.................she just happened to be "at" her grocery store when she encountered this individual.
and why is it that you think a potential stalker (if in fact that is the case) wouldn't locate a woman at her home address through her ISP, and then continue to stalk her by following her to her place of work or other places she frequents? that's kinda the point of stalking now isn't it? | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 3:29:30 PM |
Msg: 20 -- People, people..............learn to read. She never contacted him from a computer at the grocery store, she doesn't WORK at the grocery store.................she just happened to be "at" her grocery store when she encountered this individual.
D@MN, I must be getting old with this senility setting in. But, my bout with Alzheimer's aside, I STILL consider my questions to be valid. The bats STILL lack candles and night vision. So, based on that alone, I STILL persist in my query;
Msg: 1 -- What would your response have been had he posed the questions I suggested? | |
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| Can one be traced to their ISP (computer),
Posted: 5/10/2008 3:29:35 PM | | Curlz, I never commented either way on the "stalker" concerns here. I was merely pointing out what the OP had actually posted in her original post --- because it seems that several people were basing their response on the misbelief that her place of employment was this particular grocery store. that's all. nothing more, nothing less. | |
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